the_o command_n of_o superior_n in_o that_o sense_n sect._n 12._o this_o next_o proof_n be_v from_o the_o general_a sense_n of_o the_o jew_n p._n 342._o for_o this_o he_o show_v that_o mr._n a._n himself_o quote_v several_a passage_n of_o the_o talmudist_n to_o prove_v that_o they_o equal_v their_o tradition_n with_o the_o command_v of_o god_n and_o hâ—nce_o infer_v that_o this_o be_v not_o look_v â—n_o as_o a_o indifferent_a ceremony_n but_o as_o a_o thing_n who_o omission_n bring_v guilt_n on_o the_o conscience_n the_o former_a answer_n do_v full_o take_v away_o the_o force_n of_o all_o that_o he_o here_o discourse_v to_o wit_n the_o jew_n think_v the_o conscience_n defile_v by_o such_o omission_n after_o the_o thing_n be_v impose_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n not_o before_o so_o our_o prelatist_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o ceremony_n wherefore_o mr._n a._n be_v far_o from_o overturning_a all_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o discourse_n by_o this_o one_o say_v as_o the_o dr._n allege_v i_o well_o know_v what_o sanctity_n the_o rabbi_n place_v in_o the_o strict_a observance_n of_o these_o thing_n and_o therefore_o i_o contradict_v none_o of_o his_o citation_n out_o of_o they_o but_o all_o this_o sanctity_n they_o found_v not_o only_o natural_a or_o antecedent_n goodness_n of_o the_o thing_n observe_v but_o on_o the_o great_a duty_n of_o obedience_n to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n in_o which_o our_o brethren_n be_v not_o much_o inferior_a to_o they_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o say_v whosoever_o disesteem_v this_o custom_n deserve_v not_o only_a excommunication_n but_o death_n too_o and_o what_o less_o do_v the_o prelatist_n say_v of_o omit_v the_o ceremony_n except_o that_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o make_v death_n by_o the_o law_n though_o the_o cruel_a usage_n that_o many_o have_v meet_v with_o on_o this_o account_n have_v bring_v they_o to_o their_o death_n i_o can_v tell_v you_o of_o rabbi_n in_o the_o church_n of_o eâ—gland_n that_o talk_v as_o high_a against_o not_o observe_v the_o ceremony_n as_o ever_o the_o jewish_a rabbi_n do_v against_o not_o observe_v their_o wash_n he_o admire_v p._n 344._o that_o mr._n a._n will_v make_v people_n believe_v that_o this_o be_v no_o more_o but_o a_o indifferent_a ceremony_n among_o the_o jew_n and_o require_v for_o order_n and_o decency_n as_o our_o ceremony_n be_v a._n he_o need_v not_o admire_v for_o none_o of_o we_o say_v so_o of_o that_o wash_v when_o impose_v and_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v any_o other_o but_o indifferent_a to_o they_o before_o imposition_n as_o our_o ceremony_n be_v that_o wash_v be_v not_o impose_v for_o order_n and_o decency_n as_o our_o ceremony_n be_v a_o reason_n of_o the_o difference_n be_v already_o give_v to_o wit_n that_o it_o be_v a_o addition_n to_o christ_n ceremony_n for_o take_v away_o uncleanness_n we_o be_v a_o addition_n to_o christ_n institution_n for_o honour_v he_o and_o edify_v of_o soul_n sect._n 13._o he_o proceed_v sect._n 28._o to_o enlarge_v and_o enforce_v this_o truth_n by_o consider_v the_o popish_a ceremony_n and_o their_o opinion_n of_o wash_v away_o sin_n and_o justification_n by_o they_o and_o for_o this_o he_o cit_v many_o author_n all_o which_o pain_n may_v have_v be_v spare_v for_o this_o argument_n do_v not_o at_o all_o differ_v from_o what_o he_o have_v say_v abouâ—_n the_o jew_n opinion_n of_o their_o wash_n and_o need_v no_o other_o answer_n all_o the_o efficacy_n that_o papist_n attribute_v to_o their_o ceremony_n be_v consequent_a to_o and_o dependent_a on_o their_o be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o church_n none_o of_o they_o say_v that_o they_o have_v such_o efficacy_n in_o themselves_o and_o that_o they_o attribute_v take_v away_o of_o sin_n to_o they_o arise_v from_o the_o opinion_n they_o have_v of_o the_o merit_n of_o good_a work_n which_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v not_o maintain_v the_o church_n of_o england_n make_v they_o good_a work_n but_o deny_v their_o merit_n because_o she_o deny_v that_o even_o to_o the_o work_n that_o god_n have_v command_v the_o papist_n do_v but_o make_v they_o good_a work_n also_o and_o that_o they_o think_v they_o meritorious_a be_v from_o this_o their_o opinion_n that_o all_o good_a work_n be_v such_o and_o not_o from_o a_o opinion_n that_o they_o can_v do_v such_o feat_n by_o any_o power_n in_o themselves_o without_o institution_n they_o ascribe_v spiritual_a effect_n to_o they_o say_v he_o so_o do_v you_o to_o your_o ceremony_n as_o stir_v up_o of_o dull_a mind_n engage_v the_o soul_n to_o god_n etc._n etc._n i_o think_v the_o cross_n have_v no_o more_o efficacy_n for_o this_o without_o a_o divine_a institution_n that_o it_o have_v to_o drive_v away_o devil_n as_o the_o papist_n allege_v amesius_n ought_v not_o to_o have_v be_v charge_v with_o disingenuity_n by_o the_o doctor_n on_o this_o ground_n he_o do_v not_o equal_a the_o evil_a of_o the_o english_a ceremony_n with_o these_o of_o rome_n but_o that_o this_o church_n have_v no_o more_o power_n to_o make_v they_o religious_a rite_n than_o that_o have_v to_o make_v they_o cause_n of_o grace_n he_o tell_v we_o pag._n 346._o that_o our_o church_n receive_v they_o no_o otherwise_o than_o as_o purge_v from_o popish_a superstition_n and_o for_o this_o cit_v praef._n to_o common-prayer_n and_o can._n 30._o answer_n neither_o the_o dr._n nor_o his_o church_n will_v be_v condemn_v if_o they_o may_v be_v their_o own_o judge_n it_o be_v amicum_fw-la testimonium_fw-la i_o confess_v they_o have_v purge_v out_o much_o popish_a superstition_n out_o of_o they_o but_o to_o purge_v out_o all_o be_v impossible_a the_o thing_n themselves_o as_o state_v in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n without_o his_o institution_n be_v such_o whatever_o the_o dr._n have_v gain_v to_o his_o cause_n by_o this_o discourse_n our_o cause_n gain_v from_o it_o a_o good_a argument_n against_o the_o ceremony_n viz._n that_o these_o thing_n be_v unnecessary_a in_o themselves_o that_o have_v be_v so_o gross_o abuse_v to_o idolatry_n and_o superstition_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v bring_v into_o god_n worship_n by_o they_o who_o abhor_v that_o way_n nor_o indeed_o can_v they_o without_o much_o scandal_n but_o of_o this_o and_o other_o argument_n i_o have_v treat_v elsewhere_o sect._n 14._o his_o second_o way_n how_o ceremony_n become_v part_n of_o divine_a worship_n he_o have_v pag._n 347._o viz._n if_o they_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v unalterable_a and_o obligatory_a to_o the_o conscience_n of_o all_o christian_n and_o this_o he_o purge_v the_o church_n of_o england_n from_o what_o be_v already_o say_v do_v abundant_o refute_v this_o for_o i_o have_v show_v that_o ceremony_n may_v be_v part_n though_o bad_a one_o of_o worship_n without_o this_o and_o the_o former_a too_o and_o indeed_o if_o this_o be_v necessary_a to_o make_v they_o part_n of_o worship_n none_o of_o the_o popish_a ceremony_n be_v such_o for_o the_o pope_n will_v not_o part_v with_o his_o power_n of_o alter_v the_o worship_n of_o god_n as_o he_o please_v more_o than_o the_o english_a convocation_n will_v and_o i_o believe_v there_o be_v never_o church_n in_o the_o world_n that_o hold_v that_o she_o can_v enjoin_v what_o god_n have_v not_o enjoin_v unalterable_a and_o so_o as_o to_o bind_v all_o christian_n but_o still_o the_o doctor_n as_o his_o cause_n do_v necessitate_v every_o defender_n of_o it_o to_o do_v make_v a_o inconsistency_n and_o irreconcileableness_n between_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o church_n about_o the_o ceremony_n and_o their_o practice_n in_o reference_n to_o they_o if_o they_o be_v alterable_a why_o will_v you_o rather_o ruin_v your_o brethren_n hazard_v soul_n rend_v the_o church_n than_o alter_v they_o if_o they_o bind_v not_o our_o conscience_n why_o do_v you_o charge_v we_o with_o sin_n for_o refuse_v they_o if_o they_o bind_v not_o all_o man_n why_o be_v the_o worship_n of_o other_o church_n so_o cry_v out_o upon_o by_o many_o of_o your_o church_n sect._n 15._o the_o reverend_a dr._n come_v now_o sect._n 29._o to_o examine_v the_o charge_n against_o the_o church_n and_o bring_v the_o argument_n of_o his_o adversary_n that_o tend_v to_o prove_v the_o ceremony_n to_o be_v part_n of_o worship_n and_o answer_v they_o it_o be_v here_o to_o be_v observe_v that_o the_o argument_n that_o he_o mention_v be_v but_o some_o of_o many_o that_o we_o use_v against_o the_o ceremony_n and_o these_o not_o they_o that_o be_v most_o direct_o against_o they_o mr._n a._n argue_v thus_o a_o outward_a visible_a sign_n of_o inward_a invisible_a grace_n whereby_o a_o person_n be_v dedicate_v to_o a_o profession_n of_o and_o subjection_n to_o the_o redeemer_n be_v a_o substantial_a part_n of_o worship_n the_o dr._n answer_v a_o outward_a visible_a sign_n represent_v between_o man_n the_o duty_n or_o engagement_n of_o another_o be_v no_o
so_o insufficient_o represent_v there_o 3._o neither_o do_v i_o understand_v how_o the_o consent_n of_o two_o convocation_n that_o never_o meet_v personal_o together_o can_v be_v call_v a_o church_n or_o national_a representative_a church_n i_o think_v a_o church_n have_v be_v a_o meâ—ting_n not_o a_o consent_n of_o man_n a_o personal_a concurrence_n in_o some_o religious_a act_n not_o a_o mental_a consent_n about_o they_o body_n be_v requisite_a to_o make_v a_o church_n as_o well_o as_o soul_n sect._n 7._o i_o pleâ—d_v not_o for_o mr._n b_n constitutive_a regent_n part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n though_o a_o oecumenick_n counsel_n if_o it_o can_v be_v have_v may_v better_o challenge_v that_o name_n than_o the_o pope_n and_o i_o think_v christ_n headship_n over_o the_o catholic_n church_n dâ—th_v not_o answer_v to_o what_o be_v debate_v about_o to_o wit_n a_o visible_a power_n super-intending_a all_o the_o inferior_a church_n power_n on_o earth_n we_o own_o a_o catholic_n diffusive_a visible_a church_n but_o wish_v rather_o than_o hope_v for_o one_o representative_a for_o we_o be_v persuade_v the_o pope_n have_v no_o title_n to_o such_o a_o headship_n but_o the_o question_n between_o he_o and_o mr._n b._n be_v about_o a_o visible_a representative_a or_o regent_a head_n of_o the_o national_a church_n of_o england_n i_o have_v show_v that_o consent_n can_v stand_v in_o this_o room_n and_o therefore_o bring_v in_o the_o arch-bishop_n bishop_n and_o presbyter_n summon_v by_o the_o king_n writ_n who_o conclusion_n must_v be_v enact_v by_o a_o parliament_n against_o this_o national_a head_n i_o object_n 1._o that_o it_o have_v no_o warrant_n to_o represent_v the_o church_n of_o the_o nation_n of_o which_o before_o 2._o he_o seem_v above_o to_o make_v two_o such_o convocation_n and_o so_o there_o must_v either_o be_v two_o church_n of_o england_n or_o the_o one_o church_n of_o england_n must_v be_v biceps_fw-la and_o so_o a_o monster_n 3._o this_o consent_n or_o convocation_n call_v it_o what_o you_o will_v be_v not_o a_o regent_n head_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n it_o meddle_v only_o with_o make_v rule_n for_o government_n which_o be_v none_o of_o the_o church_n work_n she_o be_v only_o ministerial_o to_o execute_v christ_n law_n but_o do_v not_o govern_v by_o receive_v appeal_n censure_v the_o maleversation_n of_o inferior_a roll_a church_n inflict_v censure_n etc._n etc._n sect._n 8._o mr._n b._n ask_v whether_o the_o rule_n that_o unite_v the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v divine_a or_o humane_a the_o dr._n answer_v sect._n 22._o the_o church_n be_v found_v on_o a_o divine_a rule_n but_o require_v a_o conformity_n to_o the_o rule_n that_o she_o have_v appoint_v as_o agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god._n this_o i_o conceive_v be_v not_o to_o answer_v the_o question_n he_o shall_v have_v tell_v we_o in_o which_o of_o the_o two_o rule_n their_o unity_n lie_v we_o know_v that_o all_o church_n as_o well_o as_o these_o of_o new-england_n which_o he_o mention_v if_o the_o magistrate_n own_o they_o have_v civil_a privilege_n annex_v to_o church_n order_n but_o that_o be_v still_o wide_a from_o the_o question_n whether_o these_o order_n be_v divine_a or_o humane_a do_v the_o church_n or_o do_v the_o church_n of_o new-england_n make_v order_n for_o observe_v ceremony_n in_o god_n worship_n devise_v by_o man_n and_o place_v their_o unity_n in_o that_o it_o remain_v then_o still_o that_o if_o the_o national_a unity_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v make_v by_o divine_a rule_n that_o either_o be_v express_o or_o by_o consequence_n in_o scripture_n we_o be_v member_n of_o it_o and_o will_v in_o all_o these_o join_v with_o it_o but_o if_o they_o place_v their_o unity_n in_o observe_v rule_n that_o have_v no_o warrant_n from_o scripture_n if_o we_o can_v join_v with_o they_o in_o so_o do_v we_o do_v not_o separate_v from_o they_o but_o they_o in_o so_o far_o separate_v from_o we_o and_o from_o all_o the_o pure_a church_n of_o christ._n sect._n 9_o he_o maintain_v p._n 305._o against_o one_o of_o his_o opponent_n who_o have_v object_v that_o the_o church_n have_v no_o power_n to_o make_v law_n about_o foederal_n rule_v teach_v sign_n and_o symbol_n etc._n etc._n that_o such_o a_o church_n have_v power_n to_o appoint_v rule_n of_o order_n and_o decency_n not_o repugnant_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o that_o all_o settle_a church_n be_v for_o this_o i_o reply_v 1._o he_o do_v not_o answer_v to_o the_o objection_n i_o hope_v all_o rule_n for_o order_n and_o decency_n be_v not_o about_o foederal_n rite_n and_o teach_v symbol_n order_v the_o natural_a circumstance_n of_o worship_n comprehend_v the_o one_o but_o not_o the_o other_o 2._o it_o be_v false_a that_o all_o settle_a church_n appoint_v rule_n for_o such_o order_n and_o decency_n as_o consist_v in_o religious_a ceremony_n teach_v symbol_n and_o such_o like_a 3._o it_o be_v also_o false_a that_o all_o settle_a church_n appoint_v rule_n of_o order_n and_o decency_n even_o in_o the_o circumstantial_o of_o religion_n so_o as_o to_o exclude_v all_o from_o their_o privilege_n and_o to_o incite_v the_o magistrate_n to_o punish_v they_o who_o do_v not_o conform_v to_o these_o rule_n as_o he_o allege_v other_o church_n use_v to_o rule_v by_o hold_v forth_o light_a and_o persuasive_n not_o to_o impose_v with_o rigour_n and_o force_n on_o the_o conscience_n of_o man_n nor_o do_v they_o concern_v the_o magistrate_n but_o where_o some_o notable_a violation_n of_o the_o law_n of_o god_n otherwise_o not_o to_o be_v restrain_v do_v require_v it_o 4._o it_o be_v a_o false_a supposition_n that_o our_o impose_v rule_n about_o ceremone_n be_v not_o repugnant_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o this_o be_v not_o the_o place_n of_o that_o debate_n sect_n vi_o the_o people_n right_a of_o elect_v their_o pastor_n the_o last_o of_o these_o four_o plea_n that_o the_o reverend_a author_n rank_v under_o the_o first_o head_n and_o which_o he_o allege_v some_o make_v use_v of_o for_o separation_n be_v that_o the_o people_n be_v deprive_v of_o their_o right_n in_o the_o choice_n of_o their_o own_o pastor_n this_o he_o proceed_v to_o sect._n 24._o i_o do_v not_o make_v the_o deprive_v the_o people_n of_o this_o power_n a_o cause_n of_o separation_n though_o i_o reckon_v it_o a_o notable_a grievance_n and_o earnest_o desire_v a_o redress_n of_o it_o and_o pray_v that_o the_o lord_n may_v move_v the_o heart_n of_o ruler_n to_o defend_v the_o people_n in_o this_o their_o right_n against_o they_o that_o take_v it_o from_o they_o but_o our_o work_n be_v now_o to_o defend_v this_o right_n of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n against_o the_o doctor_n be_v assault_n but_o before_o i_o come_v to_o this_o i_o shall_v show_v 1._o what_o this_o right_n be_v that_o they_o have_v in_o elect_v their_o pastor_n 2._o from_o who_o they_o derive_v it_o 3._o what_o ground_n we_o have_v to_o think_v that_o they_o have_v such_o a_o right_n sect._n 2._o to_o show_v what_o this_o right_n be_v i_o assert_v 1._o that_o the_o people_n have_v no_o right_a to_o bestow_v the_o benefice_n on_o their_o pastor_n nor_o to_o elect_v he_o to_o it_o unless_o either_o it_o be_v their_o own_o gift_n or_o the_o giver_n of_o it_o have_v transfer_v that_o power_n on_o they_o it_o be_v election_n to_o the_o office_n not_o to_o the_o benefice_n that_o we_o debate_v about_o which_o if_o the_o doctor_n have_v consider_v he_o may_v have_v spare_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o his_o follow_a discourse_n it_o be_v true_a the_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o provide_v for_o the_o church_n so_o as_o the_o person_n regular_o choose_v may_v enjoy_v the_o benefice_n but_o if_o the_o magistrate_n please_v to_o reserve_v it_o to_o his_o own_o dispose_n there_o be_v no_o remedy_n the_o people_n must_v either_o choose_v the_o man_n that_o may_v have_v the_o maintenance_n if_o he_o be_v tolerable_o qualify_v or_o they_o must_v provide_v for_o he_o themselves_o 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say_v that_o the_o liturgy_n and_o ceremony_n be_v plain_o enough_o forbid_v though_o not_o in_o particular_a yet_o in_o general_a term_n the_o tradition_n of_o man_n in_o god_n worship_n be_v plain_o forbid_v mat._n 15._o 7_o 8_o 9_o mark_v 7._o 6_o 7_o 8._o gal._n 4._o 9_o 10_o 11._o col._n 2._o 20._o which_o scripture_n and_o other_o argument_n prove_v they_o to_o be_v forbid_v by_o god_n have_v be_v so_o full_o manage_v against_o his_o party_n without_o any_o answer_n as_o may_v let_v the_o world_n see_v that_o neither_o ordinary_a care_n nor_o judgement_n have_v be_v want_v to_o find_v out_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o such_o imposition_n and_o yet_o we_o can_v find_v it_o i_o shall_v not_o now_o repeat_v what_o i_o have_v elsewhere_o say_v to_o this_o purpose_n but_o intend_v to_o answer_v what_o the_o dr._n will_v please_v to_o say_v in_o defence_n of_o these_o his_o lawful_a imposition_n sect._n 6._o the_o dr._n be_v at_o some_o pain_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o prohibition_n of_o these_o be_v not_o in_o the_o second_o commandment_n but_o if_o he_o will_v have_v convince_v we_o of_o our_o error_n he_o shall_v have_v prove_v that_o they_o be_v neither_o forbid_v there_o nor_o elsewhere_o by_o give_v satisfy_v answer_n to_o all_o our_o other_o argument_n but_o he_o be_v please_v to_o insist_v only_o on_o our_o argument_n from_o the_o second_o commandment_n and_o to_o that_o as_o he_o be_v please_v to_o frame_v it_o he_o give_v a_o answer_n such_o as_o it_o be_v i_o observe_v some_o mistake_n in_o his_o treat_v of_o this_o argument_n 1._o that_o he_o expect_v that_o the_o liturgy_n and_o ceremony_n shall_v have_v be_v forbid_v in_o word_n if_o they_o be_v forbid_v that_o be_v that_o they_o shall_v have_v be_v express_o name_v will_v he_o forbear_v no_o sin_n but_o what_o be_v name_v in_o one_o of_o the_o ten_o commandment_n what_o will_v he_o say_v of_o fornication_n incest_n rebellion_n against_o king_n etc._n etc._n may_v be_v he_o will_v say_v these_o be_v forbid_v express_o in_o other_o part_n of_o scripture_n ans._n so_o be_v humane_a invention_n in_o god_n worship_n as_o have_v be_v show_v and_o beside_o it_o be_v impertinent_a to_o deny_v fornication_n to_o be_v forbid_v in_o the_o seven_o commandment_n because_o it_o be_v not_o name_v there_o though_o it_o be_v in_o other_o scripture_n even_o so_o it_o be_v here_o yea_o i_o suppose_v the_o dr._n will_v not_o think_v that_o whatever_o be_v not_o name_v in_o scripture_n as_o a_o sin_n be_v no_o sin_n mispend_v the_o sabbath_n day_n in_o sleep_n idleness_n play_n etc._n etc._n advise_v or_o command_v one_o man_n to_o murder_v another_o and_o many_o thing_n of_o that_o nature_n be_v not_o name_v in_o scripture_n and_o yet_o comprehend_v under_o general_a prohibition_n sect._n 7._o 2._o his_o question_n be_v very_o absurd_a how_o shall_v we_o come_v by_o the_o sense_n but_o by_o the_o word_n he_o must_v mean_v the_o word_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n and_o then_o i_o answer_v that_o we_o can_v never_o by_o this_o way_n know_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o seven_o commandment_n fornication_n be_v a_o sin_n nor_o by_o the_o word_n of_o the_o six_o commandment_n can_v we_o know_v it_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o say_v to_o our_o brother_n thou_o fool_n wherefore_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n write_v so_o much_o more_o scripture_n hold_v forth_o sin_n and_o duty_n if_o we_o be_v only_o to_o look_v to_o the_o bare_a word_n of_o the_o ten_o commandment_n for_o learn_v the_o preceptive_a or_o directive_n part_n of_o his_o reveal_v will_n his_o command_n be_v exceed_o broad_a ps._n 119._o 96._o and_o therefore_o we_o be_v to_o look_v for_o more_o understanding_n from_o they_o than_o the_o word_n by_o themselves_o can_v afford_v we_o ezra_n and_o the_o levite_n read_v the_o word_n to_o the_o people_n and_o give_v the_o sense_n neh_n 8._o 8._o it_o be_v our_o duty_n also_o to_o read_v it_o and_o inquire_v into_o the_o sense_n of_o it_o one_o useful_a mean_n of_o come_v by_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o commandment_n be_v to_o consider_v how_o they_o be_v expound_v by_o christ_n enlarge_v on_o by_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n injoin_v and_o forbid_v thing_n of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o what_o the_o word_n of_o the_o command_n do_v express_v and_o in_o general_a we_o must_v compare_v scripture_n with_o scripture_n if_o we_o will_v understand_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o several_a part_n of_o it_o it_o be_v strange_a that_o the_o dr._n and_o his_o paâ—ty_n shall_v deal_v so_o unequal_o they_o take_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o liberty_n to_o impose_v thing_n on_o the_o church_n of_o god_n from_o a_o very_a general_a command_n let_v all_o thing_n be_v do_v decent_o and_o in_o order_n which_o word_n they_o practice_v upon_o at_o their_o pleasure_n devise_v rite_n for_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o bring_v this_o to_o warrant_v they_o though_o they_o can_v bring_v no_o such_o sense_n out_o of_o the_o word_n as_o that_o crossing_n kneel_v etc._n etc._n be_v lawful_a but_o if_o we_o scruple_n any_o of_o their_o invention_n we_o must_v be_v oblige_v to_o give_v word_n of_o scripture_n where_o they_o be_v express_o forbid_v sect._n 8._o in_o the_o three_o place_n when_o his_o opposite_n allege_v certain_a rule_n for_o interpret_n the_o commandment_n he_o ask_v whether_o they_o be_v divine_a or_o humane_a i_o again_o ask_v he_o whether_o do_v he_o own_v they_o as_o sound_v or_o reject_v they_o as_o fallacious_a but_o to_o his_o question_n i_o answer_v they_o be_v by_o man_n collect_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o have_v divine_a authority_n though_o the_o frame_n of_o they_o be_v humane_a as_o the_o dr_n sermon_n i_o do_v not_o mean_v that_o at_o guildhall_n be_v divine_a truth_n and_o of_o divine_a authority_n though_o of_o humane_a frame_n and_o composure_n 4._o one_o of_o these_o rule_n be_v that_o where_o any_o thing_n be_v forbid_v something_o be_v command_v we_o choose_v after_o the_o generality_n of_o divine_n rather_o to_o express_v it_o thus_o that_o in_o every_o negative_a precept_n the_o contrary_a duty_n be_v command_v and_o in_o the_o affirmative_a precept_n the_o contrary_a sin_n be_v forbid_v his_o answer_n be_v there_o be_v here_o a_o command_n to_o worship_n god_n without_o a_o image_n a_o logician_n will_v say_v this_o be_v still_o a_o negative_a command_n for_o here_o the_o matter_n of_o this_o precept_n be_v express_v negative_a all_o protestant_n divine_v agree_v that_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o second_o command_n be_v the_o mâ—dus_fw-la of_o divine_a worship_n divine_a worship_n itself_o be_v command_v and_o what_o be_v contrary_a to_o it_o forbid_v in_o the_o first_o commandment_n now_o though_o this_o preceptive_a proposition_n of_o the_o dr_n worship_n god_n be_v set_v down_o
command_v by_o god_n nor_o necessary_o connect_v with_o the_o soul_n exercise_v in_o worship_n by_o nature_n and_o dictate_v by_o it_o nor_o be_v by_o civil_a custom_n make_v a_o fit_a expression_n of_o the_o inward_a exercise_n of_o the_o soul_n in_o that_o worship_n but_o be_v only_o impose_v by_o the_o will_n of_o man_n be_v unlawful_a to_o be_v use_v in_o that_o worship_n but_o kneel_v in_o the_o act_n of_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n be_v such_o ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o major_n be_v clear_a for_o that_o must_v in_o that_o case_n be_v will-worship_n the_o minor_a be_v prove_v by_o what_o be_v say_v and_o the_o conclusion_n follow_v â—iâ—syllogistica_fw-la sect._n 11._o another_o ground_n of_o our_o scruple_n be_v this_o practice_n be_v unprecedent_v in_o the_o apostolic_a and_o pure_a primitive_a church_n christ_n with_o his_o disciple_n sit_v or_o lean_v they_o use_v the_o table_n gesture_n than_o make_v decent_a by_o civil_a custom_n and_o yet_o they_o use_v as_o much_o humility_n in_o receive_v and_o know_v as_o well_o what_o be_v fit_a and_o decent_a as_o we_o now_o do_v or_o can_v in_o after_o age_n this_o practice_n be_v not_o use_v it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o in_o tertullia_n time_n and_o till_o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o five_o century_n they_o do_v not_o use_v to_o kneel_v on_o any_o lord_n day_n between_o easter_n and_o pentecost_n so_o much_o as_o at_o prayer_n and_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o famous_a first_o council_n of_o nice_a do_v forbid_v it_o how_o then_o do_v they_o make_v the_o communion_n kneel_v a_o three_o ground_n be_v this_o kneel_v be_v a_o religious_a adoration_n before_o a_o creature_n with_o a_o religious_a respect_n to_o the_o creature_n but_o this_o be_v unlawful_a etc._n etc._n the_o first_o proposition_n be_v clear_a for_o it_o be_v with_o respect_n to_o the_o consecrate_a element_n before_o they_o that_o we_o kneel_v and_o it_o will_v not_o be_v deny_v that_o we_o there_o adore_v god_n religious_o the_o second_o proposition_n i_o prove_v because_o protestant_n do_v generaly_a condemn_v pray_v before_o a_o image_n as_o on_o other_o account_n so_o on_o this_o because_o it_o be_v a_o adore_v of_o god_n before_o a_o creature_n with_o a_o religious_a respect_n to_o it_o let_v our_o brethren_n show_v we_o what_o the_o more_o moderate_a of_o the_o papist_n give_v to_o their_o image_n that_o we_o do_v not_o give_v to_o the_o consecrate_a element_n we_o use_v the_o one_o as_o a_o a_o state_v motive_n of_o worship_n as_o they_o do_v the_o other_o they_o deny_v that_o they_o give_v any_o worship_n to_o the_o image_n as_o we_o do_v with_o reference_n to_o the_o element_n a_o four_o ground_n be_v this_o practice_n as_o acknowledge_v by_o its_o patron_n to_o be_v indifferent_a have_v be_v gross_o abuse_v to_o idolatry_n the_o papist_n in_o the_o same_o external_a way_n worship_v the_o host_n and_o it_o be_v know_v that_o this_o practice_n come_v in_o with_o the_o belief_n of_o christ_n bodily_a presence_n in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o papist_n profess_v that_o if_o they_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o they_o will_v not_o so_o kneel_v and_o be_v it_o fit_a that_o we_o shall_v so_o symbolize_v with_o they_o which_o by_o this_o practice_n we_o do_v to_o that_o degree_n that_o it_o be_v not_o easy_a to_o distinguish_v our_o adoration_n from_o they_o by_o the_o spectator_n of_o both_o these_o ground_n i_o have_v but_o hint_v be_v speak_v to_o more_o large_o by_o other_o sect._n 12._o he_o debate_v next_o with_o mr._n a._n pag._n 386._o for_o say_v that_o on_o the_o same_o reason_n that_o the_o church_n impose_v these_o ceremony_n she_o may_v impose_v some_o use_n of_o image_n etc._n etc._n to_o which_o the_o dr._n bring_v three_o answer_n fill_v four_o page_n all_o this_o discourse_n may_v have_v be_v wave_v for_o neither_o mr._n a._n nor_o any_o of_o we_o do_v ever_o make_v that_o a_o ground_n of_o separation_n though_o we_o plead_v against_o the_o ceremony_n on_o that_o ground_n if_o they_o will_v remove_v the_o present_a ceremony_n we_o shall_v not_o for_o the_o assert_v a_o impose_v power_n leave_v they_o nor_o out_o of_o fear_n of_o what_o may_v come_v sect._n 13._o the_o last_o plea_n for_o separation_n that_o the_o dr._n first_o devise_v and_o then_o refute_v be_v sect._n 38._o that_o there_o be_v a_o parity_n of_o reason_n for_o our_o separate_n from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o from_o the_o protestant_n separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o this_o plea_n he_o impute_v to_o mr._n a._n in_o his_o preface_n he_o shall_v have_v say_v epistle_n dedicatory_a to_o mischief_n of_o imposition_n but_o i_o do_v not_o find_v that_o mr._n a._n or_o any_o other_o ever_o use_v such_o a_o plea._n all_o that_o he_o say_v there_o be_v ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la against_o the_o dr_n ordinary_a cry_v out_o on_o we_o for_o separate_v from_o a_o true_a church_n whereas_o the_o dr._n himself_o have_v own_v rome_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n ration_n account_n p._n 293._o and_o def_n against_o t._n g._n p._n 785._o and_o yet_o allow_v separation_n from_o that_o church_n wherefore_o i_o shall_v no_o further_o consider_v any_o thing_n that_o he_o say_v on_o that_o head_n and_o i_o conclude_v with_o the_o dr._n and_o declare_v as_o he_o do_v to_o the_o contrary_a that_o i_o have_v examine_v all_o that_o he_o have_v say_v on_o the_o present_a subject_n and_o do_v find_v still_o remain_v sufficient_a plea_n to_o justify_v the_o present_a practice_n of_o nonconformist_n in_o not_o join_v with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o worship_v god_n in_o meet_v apart_o from_o it_o sect._n 14._o the_o learned_a dr._n be_v please_v to_o append_v to_o his_o book_n to_o set_v it_o off_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d three_o letter_n of_o three_o french_a divine_n print_v first_o in_o french_a and_o then_o in_o english_a ad_fw-la pompam_fw-la for_o it_o be_v little_a ad_fw-la pugnam_fw-la but_o he_o may_v know_v what_o ever_o difference_n we_o give_v to_o 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