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A47813	The casuist uncas'd, in a dialogue betwixt Richard and Baxter, with a moderator between them, for quietnesse sake by Roger L'Estrange.	L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704.	1680 (1680)	Wing L1209; ESTC R233643	73,385	86

these Twenty years against the King or State Unless it be our Crime to live under Reproach and Scorn and Poverty and sometime Imprisonments and never once so much as Petition a Parliament either to Pitty us or to Hear us once Speak for our Selves c. Ibid. If any Odd persons or whosoever have said or done any thing against the King or Kingdome or their Neighbours Right or Peace or have been Guilty of any Fraud Drunkennesse Perjury or Immorality besides their Vnavoidable Non-conformity let them be punisht as the Law requires but let not the Innocent yea Thousands be Slandered and Designed to Destruction for Them Ibid. Mo. If you Speak of the Nonconformists they have justifi'd from Sixty to Eighty all the Indignities that were put upon the Government from Forty to Sixty and there is not any one Seditious or Schismatical Principle of the Old Stamp which they have not afresh Reviv'd and Recommended to the People And for the Moderation you boast of I dare be answerable to produce almost as many Hundreds of Clamorous Libels against A●thority from the Dissenting Party as you reckon Years of Silence and Forbearance But these are ODD Persons you say and so is every Dissenter in the Kingdom for Ten Millions of men are but as so many Individuals when disencorporate and L●pp'd off from the Body If I durst be so bold Sir I should venture to say that Mr. Baxter himself is one of the ODDEST persons that I know in the whole Party You have First a Perswasion to your self for you are neither a Presbyterian nor an Independent nor an Anabaptist nor of any Tribe of the Division that ever yet had a Nam● to be known by but a pure Original and a ●●ristian of your own making You have Secondly as Peculiar a Conscience too that had rather leap a Precipice then keep the Kings high-way It rises and falls like a Weather-Glasse upon Change of Ayre and makes St. Paul blow Hot or Cold at pleas●re Let every soul be Subject to the Higher Powers requires Obedience to Dick Cromwell upon pain of Damnation and Disobedience to Charles the First upon the same penalty as we have had it already And then you have this further Advantage Sir that you are your own King and your own Pope you Prescribe your own Laws and Grant your own Pardons Ba. You may prate as long as you will I am against the Imposing of Mystical Ceremonies as Crossing or Surplice c. Five Disp. Pa. 467. For to Impose new Symbolicall Rites upon the Church which Christ hath not Imposed doth seem to me an Vsurpation of his Sovereign Power Ibid. And to accuse Christ of Ignorance or Negligence in that he himself hath not Imposed them And so doth it Imply an Accusation of his Laws and of the Holy Scriptures as if they were Insufficient Ibid. 468. And These Impositions seem to be plain Violations ●f These Prohibitions of God in which we are forbidden to Add to his Worship or diminish FROM IT 469. And moreover God hath allready given us so perfect a Directory for his Worship that there is nothing more that we can reasonably desire Ib. 481. Ri. Now for my part I am for the Amiable way Christians should not be Over-busy in Prying into the work of their Governours nor too forward to suspect their d●terminations The Duty of Obeying them being Certain and the Sinfulnesse of the thing Commanded being Uncertain and Unknown and only Suspected we must go on the surer side Ibid. 484. In disobeying the Lawfull Commands of our Superiours we disobey Christ. Ibid. 485. Beside that Disobedience in matters of Circumstance will exclude and Overthrow the Substance of the Worship it self Pa. 486. POSTSCRIPT To the Reader MR. Baxter has certainly given in this Extract the 〈◊〉 blow to the Non-conformists that ever they 〈◊〉 For there are no Arguments against That Party like their 〈…〉 against Themselves To the clearest Evidences of 〈◊〉 and Reason they 'le oppose Clamour and Passion 〈◊〉 make a shift to wriggle themselves Off and On with 〈◊〉 drawn Texts and Riddling distinctions But when the very 〈◊〉 of That Interest comes to play Fast and Loose and shift 〈◊〉 Conscience with the Season the Masque is then taken off 〈◊〉 there can be no Denyal of the Fact so there can be no 〈◊〉 the Hypocrisy How comes Toleration to be a Sin under 〈◊〉 Presbyterians and a Duty under the Bishops How comes it 〈◊〉 be Damnation in the case of the Late King and Richard 〈◊〉 well to Obey the Former and destroy the Latter Even 〈◊〉 to Mr. Baxters own Exposition which is that by St. 〈◊〉 Higher Powers is Intended Those in Actual Poss●ssion How 〈◊〉 Bishops to be Antichristian at one time and Warrantable at 〈◊〉 Or the Civil Magistrate to have more power in 〈◊〉 matters under an Vsurper then under a Lawful 〈◊〉 How comes an Episcopal Vniformity to be more a Persecution 〈◊〉 a Presbyterian Or a Common Prayer-Book more Intolerable 〈◊〉 a Directory What can more expose the Credit of the 〈◊〉 then this double-dealing in the Foreman of the Party to 〈◊〉 Mr. Baxter Lye down in One Opinion and Rise in Another 〈◊〉 Accomodating his Scruples to every Crisis of State And Consummate the Iniquity of the Pretense He has no soone● veigled the People into a Schisme but he presently 〈◊〉 with a Plat-form of Sedition and having wrought a 〈◊〉 from the Ecclesiastical he falls to work in his Cases and 〈◊〉 upon the Foundations of the Civill Government The End The Proposition at the Savoy about the command of lawful Superiours Richards Resolution ●●●●er his hand Baxter of another opinion Many Commands anlawful which the subject ought yet to obey No Rule● is bound ●o provide against Events not to be foreseen Magistracy cut off at a blow The Civil Power must not make Laws about Gods Worship But Baxter says that Circa Sacra he may Richard and Baxter still at variance Richards Account of the Savoy-Conference Vshers Primitive Episcopacy offer'd but rejected The English Episcopacy submitted to by Richard c But held Antichristian and Diabolica● by Baxter Richard and Baxter never 〈◊〉 ●e reconcil'd The Ground of A.B. Vsher Project of Episcopacy Many would have yielded to Prelacy c The Diocesan Episcopacy gratifies the Devil says Baxter and not to be re-admitted R. and B. still Clashing The New Uniformity spoil d all Prelacy Unlawful in it s●lf says Baxter Why not Prelacy as ●awful after the Act as before It is the same case still to the People Hard thoughts of Epi●copacy and Bishops and upon what groun●● A Gr●●ter Scandall to tr●vell upon the Lords day then to give theKing ba●●le Richard Confesses that the Mini●ters gu●ded the peo●le and says that the Non-conformists undertook for the next Bishops good behaviour The Quarrel not to the Office of Bishops but to the persons Richard● Reasons why the People sell from the Chu●ch again The

them no good else And what good I beseech ye did you do them by it but mislead and confirm them in Principles of Disobedience only you consider'd you say that the Prophane were much worse then the Other What is the reason that Mr. Baxter will be perpetually thus Inconsistent with himself First you Repent for no more Discouraging and then by a side wind for Encouraging and before the Repentance is out of your Mouth you are at it again with your CHURCH-CORRUPTIONS and your opposition of the PROPHANE forsooth to the Godly to Enflame the D●vision and to Harden the Non-Conformists in their Dissent Now as to your Stigmatizing Character of Prophane There is a Personal Prophanenesse and there is a Prophanenesse of Association and Confederacy There are many men I know that have gotten so diabolical a Habit of Swearing Cursing and Blaspheming the holy name of God that they can hardly speak Ten words without an Oath or a Curse This is witho●t dispute a most abominable Sin But it is withall so Disagreeable and so offensive that it gives a man a Horrour for the Imitation and Practice of so Unprofitable and so Monstrous a Crime and though it be a grievous Wickedness it is not of so dangerous an Example But what say you to Sacramental Leagues against Order and Law To the forcing of a whole Nation either to Swear or starve to the calling God into a Conspiracy against Government and Religion To the Robbing of Altars demolishing of Temples dethroning of Kings degrading of Bishops c. And all This in the Name of the most High God and with hands held up unto the Lord. But go on with your Repentance Ba. I do Repent also that I had not more Impartially and dilligently Consulted with the best Lawyers that were against the Parliaments Cause for I know of no Controversy in Divinity about it but in Politiques and Law and that I did not use all possible means of full Acquaintance with the Case Ibid. And that for a little while the Authority of such Writers as Mr. Richard Hooker Lib. I. Eccles. Polit. and Bishop Bilson and other Episcopal Divines did too much sway my Judgment toward the Principles of Popular Power And seeing the Parliament Episcopal and Erastian and not hearing when the War began of Two Presbyterians amongst them all nor among all their Lord Li●utenants Generalls Major Generalls or Colonells till long after I was the Easilyer drawn to think that Hookers Political Principles had been commonly Received by all which I discerned soon after upon stricter Enquiry to be Unsound and have my self written a Confutation of them Pa. 53. Mo. This way of Dodging in one of the Prophane as you stile us would have been Iesuitical Here 's only a bare wish that you had made a stricter Enquiry into the Cause but no Acknowledgment that you were in the Wrong And again If you knew of no Controversy in Divinity about it why are all your Writings stuffed with such a Huddl● of Texts for Obedience to the Two Houses What did you search the Word of God for in the Case Holy Com. Pa. 486. 〈…〉 were misled by Mr. Hookers First Book of Ecclesiastical 〈…〉 Favour of Popular Power why would ye not let him set the Right in your Ecclesiastical ●olitiques and in your Duty to the Authority and Discipline of the Church to make ye some amends the Biasse which you will have him to take in favour of Popular Power being not one jot to your purpose but regarding only the Specification of Government and not the Fountain and who●ly Forrein to your Phansy of a Co-ordination Whereas That Great mans discourse in vindication of the Rites and Injunctions of the Church comes directly to your Point and stands as sirm as a Rock against all the Insults of Calumny and Opposition without any pretense to a Reply But you serve Mr. Hooker in This and the King himself and the English Clergy in Oth●r Cases as you do the Bishops in your Church-History you turn over Indexes and Common-Places for matter of Reproach against them and then obtrude upon the World the Frailties of some and your own most Uncharitable mistakes of Others for the History of the Order but not one word of Their Virtues It would make a black book the Story of the Presbytery drawn up at the same Rate It is your way still under a Pretext of advancing the Mistical Church to depress the Visible and to put the people out of Love w●th both Civill and Ecclesiastical Constitutions Ba. Pray'e do but observe and see of what manner of persons the Visible Church hath be●n Constituted in all Ages of the World till now In the first Church in Adams Family a Cain In a Church of Eight persons the Father and Pastor overtaken with Grosse Drunkenness and one of his Sons was a Cursed Cham. In a Church of six persons Two of them perish'd in Sodom in the flames among the Unbelievers and a Third turn'd into a Pillar of Salt The Two remaining Daughters committed Incest In Abrahams Family an Ishmael in Isaac●s an Esau even Rebecca and Iacob guilty of deceitfull Equivocation an Abraham and Isaac deny'd their Wives to save themselves in their Unbelief In Iacobs Family a Simeon and Levi that sold their brother Ioseph Of the Church of the Isralites in the Wilderness but Two permitted to enter into the Land of Promise c. The Ten Tribes were drawn by Ieroboa● to Sin by setting up Calves at Dan in Bethel and making Priests of the Vilest of the People and forsaking the Temple and the True Worship of God and the Lawfull Priests And these Lawfull Priests at Ierusalem were Ravening Wolves and Greed● Dogs and careless and cruell Shepherds The false Pro phets who deceived the People were most Accepted Ch Div. Pa. 35. ●6 37 And if you run through the Churches of Rome Corinth Galatia Colosse Ephesus Pergamus Thyatira Sardis Laodicea Pa. 39.40.41 you 'le finde it to be the same case Mo. But what 's your end in all This Ba. Not to make Sin less Odious nor the Church or Godly less Esteemed but to shew you the Frame of the Visible Church in all Generations and how it differeth from the Iewish lest you should take on you to be wiser then God and to build his house after a better Rule then his Gospel and the Primitive Pattern Ibid. Pa. 36. Mo. This is by Interpretation The Non-Conformists are the Invisible Church and the Episcopall Clergy are the Ravening Wolves and the Greedy Dogs and all the Sons of the Church of England are the Church Visible According to your most obliging way of Allusion But there 's one thing I forgot You say the Presbyterians did not begin the War which with your Favour is a great mistake and yet not a pin matter to the case in Question whether they did or not Did not the Kirk lead the Dance and