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A43619 The fourth part of naked truth, or, The complaint of the church to some of her sons for breach of her articles in a friendly dialogue between Titus and Timothy, both ministers of the Church of England / by a legal son and since conformist to the Church of England, as established by law.; Naked truth. Part 4 Hickeringill, Edmund, 1631-1708. 1682 (1682) Wing H1806; ESTC R14467 65,265 43

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What have I to do with their Salvation Tit. Not much I confess only 't is an old maxim with Divines that Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus So that if you totally exclude them out of the true Church of Christ you do as much as in you lyes to barr them out of Heaven for which they have reason to give you little thanks Tim. I value not their thanks Tit. However let them have your Prayers that since they are no Christians as yet they may be such in time especially on Good Friday when you pray for all Turks Jews Infidels and Hereticks think on them will you Tim. Then or not at all for I know no other part of our Liturgy will comprehend them Tit. Yes If I mistake not there is one place more wherein they may be remembred without much danger of defiling our Prayers with the thoughts of them Tim. Where is that I cannot call it to mind Tit. That 's much when you read it some 3 times a week 't is that in the Litany That it may please thee to have Mercy upon all men So that if you do but allow them to be men not beasts you may venture to let them have a ship in that sentence Tim. You have named all I am sure now wherein they can have any share Tit. Suppose when you read the Confession We have left undone those things which we ought to have done and we have done those things which we ought not to have done We should understand it of the Phanaticks as well as of our selves would there be any harm in it Tim. None in the world for doubtless 't is true of them to a Tittle And if there were any more such instances I should begin to think our Prayers were composed chiefly for them But surely there is no more Tit. Many more Tim. Where Tit. In the Litany as that From all Pride vain Glory and Hypocrisie from envy batred malice and all uncharitableness Tim. Nothing ever more pertinent Tit. Except that From all Sedition privy Conspiracy and Rebellion from all false Doctrine Heresie and Schisme Tim. Better and better Tit. And that it may please thee to bring into the way of Truth all such as have erred and are decieved That it may please thee to forgive our enemies persecutors and slanderers and to turn their hearts Tim. Incomparable I profess I shall never read these Prayers hence forward but I shall think of the men they are so apt so exceeding apt that it will add to my devotion ever after Where were my Brains that I never noticed this before As I hope to live I believe scarce a Bishop that knew for whose sake those Prayers were inserted till now Tit. Now then I hope you will let these poor Gibeonites share both in your Confessions and Petitions as oft as you may without turning your Zeal to God into passion against them in Prayer and I have so much Charity as to think they will do much for you and with that sincerity and love as becomes fellow members of the visible Church of Christ for such I take them to be nor doth our Church in this Article exclude them which made it stick long so long by the way but by this time I hope 't is pretty well down if not I am sure the next will drive it down Tim. I 'le try Article 20. Of the Authority of the Church The Church hath power to decree Rites or Ceremonies and Authority in Controversies of Faith And yet it is not lawfull for the Church to ordain any thing that is contrary to Gods Word written neither may it so expound one place of Scripture that it be repugnant to another Wherefore although the Church be a witness and a keeper of holy writ yet as it ought not to decree any thing against the same so besides the same ought it not to enforce any thing to be believed for necessity of salvation Tit. I need not ask whether you ever read this before because I know you did not but how do you like it now you have read it Tim. Not at all in troth unless by Church they mean that at Westminster nor can it be true as to us in any other sense for 't is that Great Assembly or General Counoel that decrees and appoints all our Rites and Ceremonies and we have no other than what they approve and establish witness the Act before the Common Prayer Tit. But you believe the Church hath a power to decree Rites which is all the Article asserts in that point Tim. Decree Ay she may decree and decree till her heart akes but if she have not the Votes of the House she shall never have the thanks of the House for her pains and without their Votes and Thanks I know what her decrees will come to Tit. To what Tim. To scorn and disdain with them that make those decrees ' slid man if all the Reverend Bishops of the Land should sit together in Council and decree a Ceremony no bigger than the dash over an Adverb which is scarce half a cross it would signifie no more than if you and I should do it Tit. How you and I we have no power at all Tim. En'e as much as their Lordships in this case was not the P but the other day decreeing out of the Church those Rites and Ceremonies or a good part of them that we have and had it had the Royal stamp the Bishops might have thrown their Caps after them Tit. And is it not fit that they which make other Laws should by Law establish the Government in the Church Tim. Therefore I would have this Article amended and named thus the P. that is King Lords and Commons Assembled c. have power c. Leaving out the Word Church else I will never subscribe it Tit. That 's done already Tim. I care not but I won't own it Tit. But can you withdraw your hand singly from this and yet subscribe and own the rest Tim. Yes very well Tit. That 's a cunning trick indeed 't is next to a mental reservation By virtue of which a man may subscribe any thing all things and yet in truth subscribe nothing So that I have all this while been under a mistake for I thought you had subscribed all the Articles and it seems you have not but a little here and there only as it should please you when you come to read them Tim. And as much too I think as reason can expect Tit. Mighty pretty truly read the next and having had your subscription before hand let us now have your intention when you have perused it Article 21. Of the Authority of General Councels Tim. General Councels may not be gathered together without the Commandment and Will of Princes And when they be gathered together forasmuch as they be an Assembly of men whereof all be not governed by the Spirit and Word of God they may err and sometimes have erred even in things pertaining