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A41212	A compendious discourse upon the case, as it stands between the Church of England and of Rome on the one hand, and again between the same Church of England and those congregations which have divided from it on the other hand together with the treatise of the division of the English church and the Romish, upon the Reformation / enlarged with some explicatory additionalls by H.F. ...	Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662.	1655 (1655)	Wing F790; ESTC R5674	55,518	166

those who are against Set Forms see great reason against that too thinking it fit as indeed it is that none should use their gifts publiquely but such as are called allowed and ordained to it by the Church and if so then also should they think it sit that those who are so allowed as publique Ministers in the Congregation should use their gifts so and in such a way as the same Church sees sit and allowes for if these will plead liberty of using their spirituall Gifts against the Constitution of the Church and that by this 14. chapter to the Corinthians then may the other with as good Reason plead Liberty for all gifted men for all that had such gifts as here the Apostle speaks of and seeks to order might have their turn of speaking and using them But they are both out of the way and inconsequent in their reasoning from this Chapter not distinguishing Times and Gifts nor acknowledging duly the Authority of the Church and therefore under pretence of such Gifts pleading for Liberty of using them that is as it often proves of venting what they please in the Congregation whereas they ought in all humility to expect the Churches approbation of their Gifts and then know they must use them with submission still to the Church in such a way as is thought most fit for preventing the above-mentioned inconveniences for preserving Order and Vnity in the Church for setting forth an Vniformity in Gods Worship and upon all these respects for edification of the people Calvin no friend to Popery or sloathfulnesse in Ministers but a person furnished with as great gifts as any of our Pleaders for this Liberty can pretend to is said to have often wished that all the Churches had one and the same Form of publique Service or Liturgy and that upon these Reasons The holding of Unity in the Church and the excluding of Novelty Faction and boasting of Gifts But see whether this Pride of spirit and self conceit for I can call it no otherwise when once it sets it self against the Churches constitution without expresse Scripture has proceeded in some from a despising of the Churches Prayers to an understanding of the Lords Prayer because a Set form and to a neglecting the use of it altogether as far below them then to a conceiting of themselves to be above prayer it self as needing not to pray at all Such I have met with miserably cutting themselves off not onely from the comfort of the prayers of Christs Church on Earth but from the benefit of his intercession in Heaven and evacuating as to themselves the eternal Priesthood of Christ for if they need not pray they need not confesse nor ask forgivenesse nor beg Grace or any spirituall help and so need not the Intercession of Christ for obteining such mercies for his being our Advocate 1 Joh. 2. 1. supposeth our Confession of sin required c. 1. v. 9. and his being our High Priest inferrs our coming to the Throne of Grace Heb. 4. 16. or our coming to God by him Hebr. 7. 25. And as for those that so much prize the prayers of their owne conception to an undervaluing of that which the Lord framed and taught us let them consider how little they deserve his Intercession when they come by him to put up their owne prayers despising or wilfully neglecting his But we knowing the perfection of that prayer which conteins all things fitting to be asked doe often use it in the publick prayers of the Church and alwayes with our own that if any thing needfull be through our imperfection Omitted in our own it may be supplyed in the use of that and knowing that Christ is ready to hear receive the requests of every humble spirit which is carefull to doe and make use of what he has taught us We therefore delight to expresse or to sum up our desires often in his form of words for as Saint Cyprian in his exposition of the Lords Prayer tels us Christ when we beg his intercession using that prayer will acknowledge his own Words will remember the prayer he taught us Thus much of set Forms and Prayers of the Church §. XX Exception against Rites and Ceremonies They farther pretend they cannot hold Communion in the publick Worship of God according to the way and form of the Church of England by Reason of Rites and Ceremonies used therein Here they are chiefly offended at the Habit of the Minister standing up at Creed and Gospel Ring in Marriage Cross in Baptism Kneeling at the Lords Supper Bowing at the Name of Jesus And the reason of their offence is because they take them to be Burthensome and therefore against Christian Liberty yea Superstitious and therefore against purity of Worship For the first Where Ceremonies are burthensome for Number it is a fault in that Church and cause of offence and complaint but not of separation or breaking Communion St. Augustine in his Epist to Januar took notice of the encrease of Ceremonies then and in part complained they began to be burthensome in the Church of Rome the number was excessive before Reformation and gave just Cause to complain of the burthensom observance of them but that was not any Cause of dividing Communion had they not beene many of them burthensome for Weight as well as for Number and insupportable by reason of apparent superstition Now the Ceremonies and Rites reteined in this Church were few for number and eased of that weight or superstition that was in any of them The truth is if the Pretenders of Liberty of Conscience do therefore quarrel at our Rites and Ceremonies as contrary to Christian Liberty because appointed and enjoyned by the Church they do daily shew they use that Liberty as a Cloak for their unruly and contentious Spirits that cannot abide the commands of Authority but would do every thing according to their own devising and will when they have power impose severely Orders and Constitutions of their own for so they do where they can erect their new Communions imposing Conditions of admittance into and of Continuance in that Communion such as they think good but such as Christ or his Apostles never required such as the Catholique Church never knew as for example their Triall by Lay-Elders and denial of Communion or Church-fellowship yea of the Sacrament of Christs Body and Blood to him that will not undergo that Triall or is not approved by it according to those rules they please to use but is found unanswerable to that measure of knowledge or gifts which they expect of which and other devices of theirs we may say as the Apostle did 1 Cor. 11. 17. We have no such Custome nor the Churches of God But in the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England they finde Superstition and why because such Rites and Ceremonies were derived from and abused in Popery unto Superstition They were used indeed in the Church of Rome and abused too

Romanists alledging that the present Sects of these dayes may plead against the Church of England from which they have divided what the Church of England can against the Roman for as it was above premised the case betweene English and Romish Church is as between two Nationall Churches having full authority for publick Reformation but the case between the English Church and those that have divided from it is between a Nationall Church and the members of it by which appears they could have no sufficient Authority for publick Reformation without and against the Authority in being to pull down and set up as they have done and it will appear they could have no just Cause for so much as a Separation from the Communion of this Church §. IX Grounds laid for convincing them of Schism Now for making good the charge of Schisme against them we will premise some undeniable Truths which speak the Authority of Church-governours the obedience due thereunto the condition of Schism and the danger and guilt of it I. That the Church of Christ is a Society or Company under a Regiment Discipline Government and the Members constituting that Society are either Persons taught guided governed or Persons teaching guiding governing and this in order to preserve all in Unity and to advance every Member of this visible Society to an effectuall and reall participation of Grace and Union with Christ the Head and therefore and upon no lesse account is obedience due unto them Eph. 4. 11 12 13 16. and Heb. 13. 17. and he that will not hear the Church be as a Heathen and Publican Mat. 16. II. That every Nationall Church has power as to determine in matters of Faith according to Gods word so to determine in things indifferent Rites Ceremonies matters of order as in prudence it sees most fit for the better and more convenient performance of Gods worship or administration of Discipline and Government This is plain by the Apostle 1 Cor. 14. 26 40. The Rule above delivered speaks to this purpose That the Church propounding or determining matters of Faith or of the substance of Worship ought to manifest it out of Gods Word cannot doe it besides the same as the 20 Act of our Church hath it and we may expect such manifestation or proof before we yeild the absolute assent of belief unto any thing so propounded But in the Churches determination of things in themselves indifferent and enjoyning the observation of Rites and Ceremonies it is enough that the particular be not against Gods Word and he that will not yeild obedience to it is bound to shew it plainly contrary to the Word or else stands guilty of disobeying the known precepts of the Word which command obedience to Authority I will not be enough to say The Governours of the Church did not hold to their Rule for this Rite or Ceremony is not to edification is not decent it might be better otherwise For this is to set a mans owne judgement against that of the Church in matters of prudence a spice of that pride and self conceit which is the Mother of all disobedience Schism and though a private judgement might truly say some things might be better done in and about Gods Worship or Service yet unlesse such a one can say as truly those things are unlawfull to be done and that by direct warrant from Gods Word he ought not to disobey III. When the Apostle used an argument from Custome against certaine disorders We have no such Custome nor the Churches of God 1 Cor. 11. 16. he plainly shews what force the Customes of a Church so they be not against Gods Word have to binde the Members of that Church as from Introducing any New Custome without Authority so to observe such Customes as the Church hath and he that will not is reckoned by the Apostle there among the Contentious or disturbers of the peace of the Church for against such he urges that Much more are we to take notice of the strength of Universall Tradition the Custome and Practice of the whole Church in all Ages for of this we shall have occasion below against the Contentious IV. In the same Epistle for it is mainly spent upon this Argument he commends Charity as a Remedy against that Pride which upon conceit of Knowledge or Spiritual gifts cap. 12. pufft them up and made them swell one against another and despise one another the ready way to Division and breaking all asunder This Charity not that which does workes of mercy or relieves the poor as we see by ver. 3. cap. 13. but which bindes together the body of the Church Edifying it selfe in Love as Eph. 4. 16. Charity in opposition to Schism this I say he commends and by severall properties discribes It vanteth not is not puffed up ver. 4. not against Equals much lesse in setting our private judgement against our Governors It thinketh no evill ver. 5. It receives satisfaction easily from Equals interprets their Words and Actions to the best much more the commands and doings of our Governours Charity seeks not her owne endureth all things ver. 5 7. suffers much rather than come to open difference and contention with Equals so will peaceable Charity suffer much ere it come to a division from the Church much lesse will it seek that which is anothers that especially which belongs to the Governours their power meanes preferments Thus Schism takes beginning from Pride and self-conceit goes on by uncharitablenesse to enormous excesse of disobedience and injustice and renders all Knowledge Faith and other good workes for want of this Charity unprofitable nothing worth as the Apostle in that Chapter often tells us V. The Apostle when he set Titus over the Churches of Crete directs him in the use of his power as to this point of dealing with the Contentious Tit. 3. 10 11. A man that is an Heretick reject being self-condemned Every Schismatick is this Heretick for so the word Heresie and Heretick signifies and according to the use of it then implyed one that obstinately stood out against the Church or that lead any Sect after the strictest Sect or Heresie of the Pharisees Act 26. 5. after that which they call Heresie Act. 24. 14. a Factious company divided from the Church so they called or accounted of Christians and Gal. 5. 20. we have it reckoned among the workes of the Flesh Debates Contentions Heresie So here Heretick that leads a Faction a Sect or that wilfully followes or abets it A Man therefore that is a Heretick contentious disobedient to the Order and Authority of the Church reject for he is self-condemned having both passed the Sentence upon himself by professing against or dividing from the Church and also done execution like that of the Churches censure and excommunication upon himselfe by actuall separation or going out of the Church A fearfull condition Now the application of the Premises to the convincing