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A57854 An answer to Dr. Stillingfleet's Irenicum by a learned pen. Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1680 (1680) Wing R2217; ESTC R31782 123,510 178

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preach_v the_o word_n and_o the_o magistrate_n person_n be_v subject_a to_o this_o word_n and_o yet_o he_o be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o power_n of_o minister_n when_o they_o teach_v rebuke_n exhort_v with_o all_o authority_n and_o command_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n do_v not_o this_o reach_n magistrate_n as_o well_o as_o other_o if_o they_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n i_o see_v not_o how_o they_o be_v subject_a to_o it_o if_o they_o be_v not_o subject_a to_o it_o as_o declare_v by_o christ_n ambassador_n which_o be_v the_o ordinary_a way_n of_o dispense_n it_o and_o if_o so_o then_o be_v they_o subject_a to_o the_o preach_a power_n of_o minister_n at_o least_o 2._o magistrate_n be_v also_o subject_a to_o the_o roll_a power_n of_o minister_n for_o they_o rule_v over_o christ_n flock_n the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o which_o number_n if_o the_o magistrate_n be_v i_o see_v no_o ground_n in_o scripture_n for_o exempt_n he_o from_o the_o power_n of_o their_o jurisdiction_n when_o christ_n say_v whosesoever_o sin_n you_o remit_v they_o be_v remit_v and_o whosesoever_o sin_n you_o retain_v they_o be_v retain_v he_o do_v not_o add_v except_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n may_v not_o i_o pray_v the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n debar_v he_o if_o he_o be_v a_o flagitious_a man_n from_o the_o lord_n table_n as_o ambrose_n do_v to_o theodosius_n and_o if_o they_o may_v certain_o the_o magistrate_n personal_o consider_v be_v subject_a to_o the_o roll_a power_n of_o pastor_n in_o spiritual_a thing_n as_o they_o be_v subject_a to_o he_o in_o civil_a thing_n and_o to_o deny_v this_o what_o be_v it_o but_o to_o make_v the_o supreme_a magistrate_n head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o a_o member_n of_o it_o much_o more_o worthy_a to_o be_v receive_v be_v the_o opinion_n of_o crysostome_n who_o speak_v thus_o to_o ecclesiastical_a person_n in_o reference_n to_o abstention_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n si_fw-la dux_fw-la igitur_fw-la quispiam_fw-la si_fw-la consul_n ipse_fw-la si_fw-la qui_fw-fr diademate_n ornatur_fw-la indignus_fw-fr adeat_fw-la cohibe_fw-la ac_fw-la coerce_fw-la majorem_fw-la ●u_n illo_fw-la habes_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la §_o 6._o he_o come_v afterward_o p._n 43._o to_o ascribe_v to_o the_o magistrate_n not_o only_o a_o political_a power_n which_o he_o make_v to_o lie_v in_o the_o execution_n and_o administration_n of_o law_n for_o the_o common_a good_a but_o also_o a_o architectonical_a and_o nomothetical_a power_n though_o not_o absolute_a and_o independent_a whereby_o he_o may_v make_v law_n in_o thing_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n his_o meaning_n in_o this_o he_o express_v more_o full_o in_o the_o end_n of_o p._n 44._o in_o matter_n say_v he_o undetermined_a by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n concern_v the_o external_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n the_o magistrate_n have_v the_o power_n of_o determine_v thing_n so_o they_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o because_o he_o know_v that_o the_o church-guide_n will_v put_v in_o for_o this_o power_n that_o here_o he_o give_v to_o the_o magistrate_n therefore_o p._n 45._o he_o labour_v to_o reconcile_v these_o party_n by_o a_o distinction_n or_o two_o viz._n between_o declare_v christ_n law_n and_o make_v new_a law_n and_o between_o advise_v what_o be_v fit_a and_o determine_v what_o shall_v be_v do_v the_o declare_v and_o advise_v power_n be_v give_v by_o he_o to_o the_o church_n the_o authoritative_a determine_a power_n to_o the_o magistrate_n for_o p._n 46._o the_o great_a use_n say_v he_o of_o synod_n and_o assembly_n of_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v as_o the_o council_n of_o the_o church_n unto_o the_o king_n as_o the_o parliament_n be_v for_o matter_n of_o civil_a government_n and_o p._n 47._o but_o yet_o say_v he_o when_o such_o man_n thus_o assemble_v have_v grave_o and_o matural_o advise_v and_o deliberate_v what_o be_v fit_a to_o be_v do_v the_o force_n strength_n 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5._o s._n 11._o and_o in_o 1_o sam._n 8._o nam_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la potestatem_fw-la ecclesiasticam_fw-la attinet_fw-la satis_fw-la est_fw-la civilis_fw-la magistratus_fw-la be_v enim_fw-la curare_fw-la debet_fw-la ut_fw-la omnes_fw-la officium_fw-la faciant_fw-la what_o he_o mean_v for_o cite_v both_o these_o place_n for_o these_o word_n i_o know_v not_o unless_o it_o be_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o they_o both_o but_o i_o be_o sure_a neither_o they_o nor_o any_o thing_n like_o they_o be_v in_o the_o former_a place_n for_o the_o late_a i_o have_v not_o that_o part_n of_o his_o work_n but_o the_o contrary_a of_o what_o this_o author_n intend_v be_v there_o clear_o and_o full_o teach_v viz._n he_o be_v refute_v they_o who_o will_v have_v the_o power_n of_o discipline_n in_o the_o church_n to_o cease_v now_o when_o the_o magistrate_n be_v christian_a and_o he_o assert_v ecclesiastical_a power_n and_o civil_a as_o distinct_a and_o only_o say_v that_o the_o magistrate_n 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