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A45828 A peaceable enquiry into that novel controversie about reordination With certain close, but candid animadversions upon an ingenious tract for the lawfulness of reordination; written by the learned and Reverend Mr. J. Humphrey. By R.I. I. R. 1661 (1661) Wing I10A; ESTC R219975 68,572 176

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episcoporum_fw-la aut_fw-la ministrorum_fw-la in_o ecclesiis_fw-la asiaticis_fw-la pracedebant_fw-la suffragia_fw-la ut_fw-la videtur_fw-la populi_fw-la magistrautus_n 243._o cent._n 4._o c._n 6._o de_fw-la ritibus_fw-la circa_fw-la ordinat_fw-la p._n 243._o &_o aliorum_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la &_o presbyterorum_fw-la &_o exemplo_fw-la probat_fw-la basilius_n epist_n 58._o ad_fw-la meler_n sine_fw-la justis_fw-la suffragiis_fw-la ordinationem_fw-la in_o seditionem_fw-la interdum_fw-la exiisse_fw-la et_fw-la constant_n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la nicomedenses_n hortatur_fw-la eos_fw-la ut_fw-la sub_fw-la pulso_fw-la eusehio_n alium_fw-la ordinent_fw-la episcopum_fw-la &_o eleganter_fw-la inquit_fw-la medicina_fw-la non_fw-la sera_fw-it fuerit_fw-la si_fw-la nunc_fw-la salte●_n delecto_fw-la episcopo_fw-la fideli_fw-la &_o integro_fw-la respexeritis_fw-la in_o deum_fw-la quod_fw-la impraesentia_fw-la est_fw-la potestatis_fw-la vestrae_fw-la &_o jampridem_fw-la debuerat_fw-la judicio_fw-la 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