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A62452 A discourse of the forbearance or the penalties which a due reformation requires by H. Thorndike ... Thorndike, Herbert, 1598-1672. 1670 (1670) Wing T1044; ESTC R1719 71,571 188

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the_o law_n shall_v be_v promote_v to_o order_n indifferent_o with_o those_o that_o do_v profess_v it_o that_o be_v indeed_o something_o like_o that_o which_o have_v be_v demand_v that_o weakness_n shall_v entitle_v to_o the_o clergy_n which_o orderly_o suppose_v strength_n but_o do_v he_o enjoin_v far_o that_o they_o shall_v minister_v without_o order_n that_o continue_v layman_n they_o shall_v commit_v the_o sacrilege_n of_o usurp_a to_o celebrate_v the_o eucharist_n that_o if_o their_o ordination_n be_v void_a by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n there_o shall_v be_v a_o new_a law_n make_v to_o make_v their_o ordination_n good_a and_o valid_a which_o be_v void_a when_o it_o be_v make_v then_o must_v he_o enjoin_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o every_o layman_n to_o celebrate_v the_o eucharist_n forasmuch_o as_o every_o layman_n have_v as_o much_o to_o do_v to_o celebrate_v the_o eucharist_n as_o he_o who_o