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A20031 A true, modest, and iust defence of the petition for reformation, exhibited to the Kings most excellent Maiestie Containing an answere to the confutation published under the names of some of the Vniuersitie of Oxford. Together vvith a full declaration out of the Scriptures, and practise of the primitiue Church, of the severall points of the said petition. Sprint, John, d. 1623. Anatomy of the controversed ceremonies of the church of England. 1618 (1618) STC 6469; ESTC S119326 135,310 312

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cause_n misjudge_v for_o the_o person_n fault_n delictum_fw-la personae_fw-la 76._o reg._n juris_fw-la 37._o reg._n juris_fw-la 76._o non_fw-la debet_fw-la in_o detrimentum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la redundare_fw-la 1._o enormity_n against_o excommunication_n by_o lay_a person_n 1._o their_o first_o defence_n be_v that_o whatsoever_o the_o chancellor_n do_v on_o this_o case_n he_o do_v it_o in_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o ordinary_a answ_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o question_n whether_o the_o bishop_n himself_o the_o archdeacon_n or_o any_o other_o ordinary_a alone_o have_v any_o power_n to_o excommunicate_v we_o be_v sure_a that_o neither_o scripture_n or_o example_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n will_v bear_v they_o out_o in_o it_o our_o saviour_n rule_n be_v dic_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la tell_v it_o to_o the_o church_n after_o the_o contempt_n whereof_o the_o party_n be_v to_o be_v hold_v as_o a_o heathen_a &_o publican_n that_o be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_a but_o never_o be_v it_o yet_o hear_v 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church_n so_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n neither_o shall_v there_o be_v any_o ecclesiastical_a monarch_n over_o a_o province_n or_o diocese_n arg._n 3._o if_o s._n paul_n who_o have_v apostolical_a power_n will_v not_o excommunicate_v the_o incestuous_a person_n among_o the_o corinthian_n without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o pastor_n and_o spiritual_a governor_n much_o less_o ought_v any_o bishop_n archdeacon_n etc._n etc._n do_v so_o now_o but_o the_o first_o be_v evident_a that_o corinth_n s._n paul_n excommunicate_v together_o with_o the_o pastor_n of_o corinth_n the_o apostle_n send_v not_o only_o his_o mandate_n to_o the_o corinthian_n for_o they_o to_o execute_v but_o that_o the_o power_n and_o right_n of_o excommunication_n be_v joint_o with_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o pastor_n of_o corinth_n as_o it_o may_v appear_v by_o these_o reason_n ergo._n 1._o the_o apostle_n rebuke_v they_o for_o that_o they_o have_v not_o put_v he_o from_o they_o already_o before_o he_o have_v write_v 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citatur_fw-la cause_n 2._o q._n 1._o ●_o 1●_n quibus_fw-la verbis_fw-la satis_fw-la ostendit_fw-la non_fw-la temere_fw-la aut_fw-la quommodo_fw-la libet_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o which_o word_n he_o sufficient_o show_v that_o not_o rash_o or_o howsoever_o but_o by_o judgement_n the_o evil_a be_v to_o be_v remove_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n arg._n 4._o all_o that_o have_v authority_n to_o preach_v have_v power_n to_o bind_v and_o loose_v as_o the_o apostle_n say_v we_o be_v the_o sweet_a savour_n of_o christ_n in_o they_o that_o be_v save_v and_o in_o they_o that_o perish_v 2._o cor._n 2._o 16._o our_o saviour_n give_v one_o general_a commission_n to_o his_o apostle_n and_o all_o faithful_a pastor_n their_o successor_n whosoever_o sin_n you_o remit_v they_o be_v remit_v ambrose_n say_v remittuntur_fw-la peccata_fw-la per_fw-la dei_fw-la 4._o de_fw-fr cain_n &_o abel_n l._n 2._o cap._n 4._o verbum_fw-la cujus_fw-la levites_n interpres_fw-la &_o executor_n est_fw-la sin_n be_v remit_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n whereof_o the_o minister_n be_v the_o interpreter_n and_o executor_n basil_n say_v confession_n of_o sin_n must_v necessary_o he_o make_v to_o they_o to_o who_o the_o dispensation_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o god_n be_v commit_v our_o english_a confession_n say_v see_v 11._o in_o regal_a contractioribus_fw-la q._n 288._o horn_n ser_n 11._o one_o manner_n of_o word_n be_v give_v to_o all_o and_o one_o only_a key_n belong_v to_o all_o we_o say_v there_o be_v but_o one_o only_a power_n of_o all_o minister_n as_o concern_v open_v and_o shut_v but_o all_o pastor_n have_v authority_n to_o preach_v ergo_fw-la to_o bind_v and_o loose_v and_o consequent_o to_o excommunicate_v it_o will_v be_v answer_v that_o there_o be_v two_o kind_n of_o administration_n of_o the_o key_n a_o spirirituall_a in_o remit_v &_o retain_v of_o sin_n &_o external_a in_o release_n the_o outward_a censure_n of_o the_o church_n the_o first_o belong_v to_o all_o pastor_n and_o the_o preacher_n of_o the_o church_n but_o not_o the_o other_o answ_n 1._o our_o saviour_n christ_n comprehend_v the_o whole_a
manifest_a example_n of_o the_o primitive_a 406._o perpet_n gov_fw-mi p._n 406._o church_n we_o strive_v not_o for_o it_o answ_n 1._o but_o why_o we_o pray_v you_o do_v you_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n only_o and_o not_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n will_v you_o have_v bishop_n to_o have_v more_o authority_n and_o pastor_n less_o than_o the_o word_n of_o god_n allow_v they_o 2._o but_o we_o refuse_v not_o to_o debate_v this_o matter_n by_o the_o canon_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o church_n which_o notwithstanding_o have_v be_v in_o part_n show_v before_o argum_fw-la 10._o and_o shall_v be_v declare_v further_o in_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o 11._o objection_n hierom_n thus_o write_v quomodo_fw-la ibi_fw-la leprosum_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la mundum_fw-la vel_fw-la immundum_fw-la 16._o in_o mat._n ●_o 16._o facit_fw-la sic_fw-la &_o hic_fw-la alligat_fw-la vel_fw-la solvit_fw-la episcopus_fw-la &_o presbyter_n as_o there_o under_o the_o law_n the_o priest_n make_v the_o leprous_a person_n clean_o or_o unclean_a so_o here_o the_o presbyter_n bind_v or_o lose_v so_o then_o as_o the_o judgement_n and_o censure_v of_o the_o leprosy_n belong_v not_o only_o to_o the_o chief_a priest_n but_o indifferent_o to_o they_o all_o he_o shall_v be_v bring_v to_o aaron_n the_o priest_n or_o one_o of_o his_o son_n the_o priest_n lev._n 13._o 2._o so_o now_o the_o censure_v of_o spiritual_a leprosy_n shall_v indifferent_o belong_v to_o all_o spiritual_a pastor_n further_o we_o find_v that_o presbyter_n sit_v together_o with_o bishop_n and_o give_v voice_n and_o make_v decree_n not_o only_o in_o matter_n which_o concern_v the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n as_o we_o be_v bear_v in_o hand_n but_o such_o as_o belong_v 291._o perpet_n gov_fw-mi pag._n 291._o to_o discipline_n and_o excommunication_n and_o anathematise_v as_o be_v evident_a council_n eliberrm_n to_o the_o which_o subscribe_v 36._o presbyter_n can_v 52._o 62._o 67._o and_o in_o arelatens_n 2._o can_n 25._o 28._o and_o can_v *_o 30._o they_o decree_v concern_v the_o suspension_n of_o bishop_n to_o this_o synod_n subscribe_v 12._o presbyter_n from_o hence_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o presbyter_n assemble_v in_o a_o synod_n have_v power_n to_o excommunicate_v the_o imperial_a law_n say_v we_o charge_v all_o bishop_n and_o priest_n that_o they_o separate_v no_o 11._o novil_n constitut_o 125._o c._n 11._o man_n from_o the_o sacred_a communion_n before_o they_o show_v the_o cause_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o that_o presume_v to_o excommunicate_v let_v he_o be_v put_v from_o the_o communion_n thus_o it_o be_v indifferent_a for_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n to_o excommunicate_v obj._n 6._o not_o in_o very_a church_n but_o in_o every_o city_n there_o be_v presbyter_n assist_v and_o aid_v 183._o perpet_n gov_fw-mi p._n 183._o the_o bishop_n and_o these_o be_v clergy_n man_n to_o help_v he_o in_o all_o sacred_a action_n and_o advise_v he_o in_o all_o judicial_a and_o ecclesiastical_a proceed_n 184._o p._n 184._o answ_n 1._o neither_o do_v we_o urge_v to_o have_v a_o presbytery_n of_o clergy_n man_n in_o every_o parish_n church_n but_o that_o in_o every_o division_n the_o presbyter_n and_o pastor_n shall_v assemble_v together_o for_o the_o execution_n of_o discipline_n 2._o it_o be_v confess_v that_o presbyter_n in_o city_n have_v assist_v the_o bishop_n in_o ecclesiacall_a proceed_n why_o then_o may_v not_o the_o presbyter_n of_o country_n church_n be_v admit_v who_o be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o fit_a because_o they_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o particular_a disease_n in_o their_o several_a cure_n 3._o the_o presbytery_n be_v not_o only_o in_o great_a and_o populous_a city_n neither_o have_v the_o bishop_n they_o such_o large_a circuit_n but_o that_o one_o presbytery_n may_v suffice_v for_o the_o city_n and_o confine_n thereof_o for_o then_o the_o bishop_n have_v his_o proper_a parish_n episcopus_fw-la propriam_fw-la parochiam_fw-la non_fw-la derelinquat_fw-la can._n apost_n 13._o his_o flock_n the_o bishop_n have_v his_o proper_a flock_n proper_a church_n the_o bishop_n qui_fw-la non_fw-la acquierit_fw-la ire_n ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la sibi_fw-la commissam_fw-la which_o do_v not_o resolve_v to_o go_v to_o the_o church_n commit_v to_o his_o charge_n shall_v be_v put_v from_o the_o communion_n antioch_n council_n c._n 17._o he_o have_v his_o peculiar_a flock_n episcopus_fw-la grege_fw-la sibi_fw-la commissum_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o bishop_n must_v instruct_v the_o flock_n commit_v unto_o he_o with_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n turonens_fw-la sub_fw-la carol._n then_o bishop_n live_v not_o only_o in_o famous_a great_a city_n but_o in_o base_a and_o obsure_n town_n episcopus_fw-la de_fw-la loco_fw-la ignobili_fw-la ad_fw-la nobilem_fw-la per_fw-la ambitionem_fw-la non_fw-la transeat_fw-la a_o bishop_n ambitious_o must_v not_o go_v from_o a_o base_a and_o ignoble_a town_n to_o a_o noble_a carth._n 4._o can_n 15._o then_o bishop_n have_v not_o such_o a_o large_a diocese_n in_o augustine_n time_n there_o be_v in_o one_o province_n under_o carthage_n of_o the_o catholic_a &_o donatist_n above_o bishop_n 9000._o of_o the_o catholic_n part_v there_o be_v present_a 286._o and_o absent_a 120._o by_o reason_n of_o sickness_n and_o old_a age_n epispall_n church_n void_a 60._o in_o all_o 466._o of_o the_o donatist_n there_o be_v present_a 279._o absent_v 120._o church_n void_a 60._o in_o all_o 459._o these_o so_o many_o bishop_n in_o one_o province_n can_v be_v think_v to_o have_v have_v diocese_n much_o large_a than_o some_o parish_n and_o few_o bishopricke_n have_v so_o many_o parish_n church_n under_o they_o and_o none_o in_o england_n unless_o it_o be_v norwich_n be_v find_v to_o have_v more_o it_o be_v no_o marvel_n then_o if_o one_o presbytery_n with_o the_o bishop_n suffice_v for_o such_o diocese_n object_n 7._o presbyter_n sit_v with_o the_o bishop_n at_o the_o first_o as_o assessor_n and_o consenter_n before_o 317._o perpet_n gov_fw-mi p._n 317._o synod_n undertake_v such_o cause_n ans_fw-fr 1._o the_o frequent_v of_o synod_n be_v not_o let_v to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o presbytery_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o synod_n that_o decree_v that_o sententia_fw-la episcopi_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o sentence_n of_o the_o bishop_n shall_v be_v void_a if_o it_o be_v not_o confirm_v by_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o clergy_n carth._n 4._o c._n 23._o 2._o from_o the_o nicene_n council_n to_o the_o time_n of_o this_o synod_n be_v assemble_v in_o the_o space_n of_o a_o hundred_o year_n and_o somewhat_o more_o twenty_o provincial_a synod_n as_o the_o elibortine_n arelaten_v 1._o and_o 2._o gangrene_n agrippin_n antioch_n sardic_n with_o other_o 3._o and_o before_o this_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o synod_n of_o bishop_n twice_o every_o year_n antio_n c._n 20._o constantin_n 1._o c._n 2._o but_o after_o the_o time_n of_o this_o synod_n of_o carthage_n when_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o presbytery_n begin_v to_o be_v impair_v it_o be_v decree_v that_o bishop_n shall_v assemble_v but_o once_o in_o the_o year_n toletan_n 3._o c._n 18._o so_o that_o even_o when_o synod_n be_v most_o frequent_a the_o presbytery_n be_v in_o great_a authority_n &_o it_o begin_v to_o fail_v when_o synod_n be_v not_o so_o often_o celebrate_v obj._n 8._o for_o our_o part_n though_o we_o take_v the_o key_n to_o be_v common_a to_o all_o that_o have_v pastoral_a charge_n of_o soul_n in_o their_o degree_n yet_o to_o avoid_v 320._o perpet_n gov_fw-mi p._n 320._o the_o infinite_a shower_n of_o excommunication_n etc._n etc._n if_o every_o presbyter_n at_o his_o pleasure_n may_v excommunicate_v we_o praise_v the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n church_n in_o suffer_v no_o inferior_a to_o excommunicate_v without_o the_o bishop_n consent_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o if_o by_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n the_o administration_n of_o the_o key_n be_v common_a to_o all_o pastor_n what_o presumption_n be_v this_o for_o man_n to_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o be_v wise_a than_o god_n &_o to_o change_v his_o institution_n the_o 13_o esay_n 40._o 13_o prophet_n say_v who_o have_v instruct_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n or_o teach_v he_o 2._o it_o be_v not_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o ambition_n of_o bishop_n that_o have_v exclude_v the_o pastor_n as_o diotrephes_n that_o love_v to_o have_v preeminence_n will_v not_o receive_v the_o brethren_n 3._o neither_o be_v 3._o joh._n epist_n 3._o excommunication_n the_o few_o because_o one_o by_o the_o bishop_n authority_n excommunicate_v but_o the_o more_o for_o there_o be_v like_a to_o be_v more_o grace_n and_o discretion_n in_o a_o company_n of_o reverend_a and_o learned_a pastor_n then_o in_o one_o unlearned_a chancellor_n or_o official_a and_o the_o court_n now_o intend_v their_o own_o gain_n &_o therefore_o multiply_v excommunication_n whereas_o then_o the_o profit_n of_o man_n soul_n shall_v be_v expect_v as_o though_o there_o have_v not_o be_v long_o since_o complaint_n make_v of_o