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A86302 Respondet Petrus: or, The answer of Peter Heylyn D.D. to so much of Dr. Bernard's book entituled, The judgement of the late Primate of Ireland, &c. as he is made a party to by the said Lord Primate in the point of the Sabbath, and by the said doctor in some others. To which is added an appendix in answer to certain passages in Mr Sandersons History of the life and reign of K· Charles, relating to the Lord Primate, the articles of Ireland, and the Earl of Strafford, in which the respondent is concerned. Heylyn, Peter, 1600-1662. 1658 (1658) Wing H1732; Thomason E938_4; Thomason E938_5; ESTC R6988 109,756 140

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himself_o to_o be_v in_o charity_n with_o all_o man_n he_o shall_v then_o make_v a_o special_a confession_n if_o he_o feel_v his_o conscience_n trouble_v with_o any_o weighty_a matter_n and_o then_o it_o follow_v that_o after_o such_o confession_n the_o minister_n shall_v absolve_v he_o in_o this_o manner_n viz._n our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n who_o have_v leave_v power_n to_o his_o church_n to_o absolve_v all_o sinner_n which_o true_o repent_v and_o believe_v in_o he_o of_o his_o great_a mercy_n forgive_v thou_o thy_o offence_n and_o by_o his_o authority_n commit_v to_o i_o i_o absolve_v thou_o from_o all_o thy_o sin_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n amen_n of_o the_o first_o of_o these_o three_o place_n deduce_v all_o of_o they_o from_o the_o best_a monument_n and_o record_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o lord_n primate_n take_v notice_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuit_n challenge_n p._n 109._o where_o he_o 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