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in_o the_o same_o sense_n which_o you_o quarrel_v at_o that_o a_o church_n viz._n a_o company_n of_o people_n knit_v together_o by_o express_v public_a covenant_n or_o agreement_n have_v the_o only_a power_n of_o choose_v officer_n i_o put_v you_o to_o prove_v 4._o you_o ask_v what_o if_o they_o do_v not_o proceed_v wise_o and_o pious_o be_v their_o privilege_n lose_v will_v it_o then_o be_v no_o injury_n to_o intrude_v any_o officer_n on_o they_o be_v the_o privilege_n of_o a_o church-officer_n or_o master_n of_o a_o family_n lose_v if_o he_o use_v it_o not_o wise_o and_o pious_o must_v they_o not_o be_v direct_v and_o exhort_v to_o use_v it_o right_o and_o the_o privilege_n remain_v still_o with_o he_o we_o have_v junius_n of_o our_o man_v rejoin_v then_o i_o conceive_v the_o presbyter_n ought_v to_o keep_v the_o charge_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o not_o to_o ordain_v hasty_o though_o the_o people_n shall_v elect_v sudden_o 1_o tim._n 5.22_o lest_o they_o shall_v be_v partaker_n of_o 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unwise_o and_o ungodlity_n the_o presbytery_n or_o synod_n shall_v oppose_v and_o refuse_v to_o ordain_v they_o and_o that_o without_o such_o ordination_n they_o may_v not_o lawful_o officiate_v it_o be_v enough_o as_o to_o my_o present_a purpose_n and_o this_o at_o least_o if_o not_o more_o you_o seem_v to_o grant_v by_o equal_v the_o case_n of_o a_o church_n mis-electing_a to_o the_o case_n of_o a_o mr_n of_o a_o family_n or_o a_o church-officer_n mis-governing_a both_o which_o may_v loose_v their_o privilege_n and_o power_n by_o a._n buse_v it_o especial_o for_o a_o time_n till_o they_o be_v more_o wise_a sect_n 2._o i_o ingenuous_o confess_v i_o have_v always_o and_o still_o do_v in_o my_o opinion_n and_o practice_n propend_v that_o people_n shall_v elect_v their_o minister_n they_o be_v thereby_o engage_v the_o more_o to_o love_v and_o obey_v he_o and_o he_o call_v to_o they_o make_v more_o unquestionable_a yet_o the_o scripture_n you_o bring_v though_o as_o i_o conceive_v as_o 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they_o must_v have_v convene_v upon_o that_o occasion_n to_o choose_v a_o apostle_n who_o be_v a_o pastor_n of_o all_o church_n the_o choice_n be_v limied_a by_o the_o apostle_n peter_n 1._o to_o the_o person_n present_a 2._o to_o those_o that_o have_v accompany_v the_o apostle_n all_o the_o time_n that_o the_o lord_n jesus_n go_v and_o out_o among_o they_o and_o by_o god_n the_o director_n of_o the_o lot_n to_o who_o proper_o the_o election_n of_o a_o apostle_n do_v belong_v to_o mathias_n you_o reply_v p._n 48.1_o there_o be_v a_o contradiction_n if_o they_o be_v but_o the_o sound_a part_n of_o the_o jewsh_a church_n than_o they_o be_v not_o a_o christian_a church_n and_o if_o no_o christian_a church_n how_o be_v the_o apostle_n elder_n of_o it_o how_o be_v it_o a_o ecumenical_a council_n the_o church_n and_o elder_n in_o all_o the_o world_n be_v present_a rejoin_v i_o do_v not_o at_o all_o contradict_v myself_o for_o 1._o to_o he_o christian_n and_o to_o be_v the_o sound_a member_n 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