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A42757 Aarons rod blossoming, or, The divine ordinance of church-government vindicated so as the present Erastian controversie concerning the distinction of civill and ecclesiasticall government, excommunication, and suspension, is fully debated and discussed, from the holy scripture, from the Jewish and Christian antiquities, from the consent of latter writers, from the true nature and rights of magistracy, and from the groundlesnesse of the chief objections made against the Presbyteriall government in point of a domineering arbitrary unlimited power / by George Gillespie ... Gillespie, George, 1613-1648. 1646 (1646) Wing G744; ESTC R177416 512,720 654

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of_o time_n place_n accommodation_n and_o the_o like_a the_o same_o light_n of_o nature_n and_o reason_n guide_v both_o church_n and_o state_n yet_o in_o thing_n proper_o spiritual_a and_o ecclesiastical_a there_o be_v not_o near_o somuch_o latitude_n leave_v to_o the_o presbytery_n as_o there_o be_v in_o civil_a affair_n to_o the_o magistrate_n and_o thus_o i_o have_v make_v good_a what_o i_o say_v that_o presbyterial_a government_n be_v the_o most_o limit_a and_o least_o arbitrary_a government_n of_o any_o other_o all_o which_o vindication_n and_o clear_n of_o the_o presbyterial_a government_n do_v overthrow_n as_o to_o this_o point_n master_n hussey_n observation_n pag._n 9_o of_o the_o irregularity_n and_o arbitrariness_n of_o church-government_n and_o so_o much_o of_o my_o four_o conc●ssion_n the_o five_o shall_v be_v this_o it_o be_v far_o from_o our_o meaning_n that_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n shall_v not_o meddle_v with_o matter_n of_o religion_n or_o thing_n and_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a and_o that_o he_o be_v to_o take_v care_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n but_o not_o of_o the_o church_n certain_o there_o be_v much_o power_n and_o authority_n which_o
be_v previous_a admonition_n and_o the_o party_n admonish_v prove_v obstinate_a and_o impenitent_a the_o eight_o difference_n stand_v in_o their_o correlation_n the_o correlatum_fw-la of_o magistracy_n be_v people_n embody_v in_o a_o commonwealth_n or_o a_o civil_a corporation_n the_o correlatum_fw-la of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n be_v people_n embody_v in_o a_o church_n or_o spiritual_a corporation_n the_o commonwealth_n be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n but_o the_o church_n be_v in_o the_o commonwealth_n that_o be_v one_o be_v not_o therefore_o in_o or_o of_o the_o church_n because_o he_o be_v in_o or_o of_o the_o commonwealth_n of_o which_o the_o church_n be_v a_o part_n but_o yet_o every_o one_o that_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v also_o a_o member_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n of_o which_o that_o church_n be_v a_o part_n the_o apostle_n distinguish_v those_o that_o be_v without_o and_o those_o that_o be_v within_o in_o reference_n to_o the_o church_n who_o be_v notwithstanding_o both_o sort_n within_o in_o reference_n to_o the_o commonwealth_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 12_o 13._o the_o correlatum_fw-la of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n may_v be_v quite_o take_v away_o by_o persecution_n or_o by_o defection_n when_o the_o correlatum_fw-la of_o the_o civil_a power_n may_v remain_v and_o therefore_o the_o ecclesiastical_a and_o the_o civil_a power_n do_v not_o se_fw-mi mutuò_fw-la ponere_fw-la &_o tollere_fw-la nine_o there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n in_o the_o ultimate_a termination_n the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n can_v go_v no_o further_o than_o excommunication_n or_o in_o case_n of_o extraordinary_a warrant_n and_o when_o one_o be_v know_v to_o have_v blaspheme_v against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o auathema_n maranatha_n if_o one_o be_v not_o humble_v and_o reduce_v by_o excommunication_n the_o church_n can_v do_v no_o more_o but_o leave_v he_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n who_o have_v promise_v to_o ratify_v in_o heaven_n what_o his_o servant_n in_o his_o name_n and_o according_a to_o his_o will_n do_v upon_o earth_n salmasius_n spend_v a_o whole_a chapter_n in_o confute_v the_o point_n of_o the_o coactive_a and_o magistratical_a jurisdiction_n of_o bishop_n see_v walo_n messal_n cap._n 6._o he_o acknowledge_v in_o that_o very_a place_n pag._n 455_o 456_o 459_o 462_o that_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n have_v in_o common_a the_o power_n of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n to_o suspend_v from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o to_o excommunicate_v and_o to_o receive_v the_o offender_n again_o upon_o the_o evidence_n of_o his_o repentance_n but_o the_o point_n he_o assert_v be_v that_o bishop_n or_o elder_n have_v no_o such_o power_n as_o the_o magistrate_n have_v and_o that_o if_o he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_a do_v not_o care_n for_o it_o nor_o submit_v himself_o the_o elder_n can_v compel_v he_o but_o the_o termination_n or_o quo_fw-la usque_fw-la of_o the_o civil_a power_n be_v most_o different_a from_o this_o it_o be_v unto_o death_n or_o to_o banishment_n or_o to_o confiscation_n of_o good_n or_o to_o imprisonment_n ezra_n 7._o 26._o ten_o they_o differ_v in_o a_o divide_a execution_n that_o be_v the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n ought_v to_o censure_v sometime_o one_o who_o the_o magistrate_n think_v not_o fit_a to_o punish_v with_o temporal_a or_o civil_a punishment_n and_o again_o the_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o punish_v with_o the_o temporal_a sword_n one_o who_o the_o church_n ought_v not_o to_o cut_v off_o by_o the_o spiritual_a sword_n this_o difference_n pareus_n give_v explic_n catech._n quaest_n 85._o art_n 4._o and_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v for_o those_o that_o plead_v most_o for_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n and_o argue_v against_o all_o civil_a or_o temporal_a punishment_n of_o heretic_n do_v notwithstanding_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o church_n whereof_o they_o be_v member_n ought_v to_o censure_v and_o excommunicate_v they_o and_o do_v not_o her_o duty_n except_o she_o do_v so_o the_o church_n may_v have_v reason_n to_o esteem_v one_o as_o a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n that_o be_v no_o church-member_n who_o yet_o the_o magistrate_n in_o prudence_n and_o policy_n do_v permit_v to_o live_v in_o the_o commonwealth_n again_o the_o most_o notorious_a and_o scandalous_a sinner_n blasphemer_n murderer_n adulterer_n incestuous_a person_n robber_n etc._n etc._n when_o god_n give_v they_o repentance_n and_o the_o sign_n thereof_o do_v appear_v the_o church_n do_v not_o bind_v but_o loose_v they_o do_v not_o retain_v but_o remit_v their_o sin_n i_o mean_v ministerial_o and_o declarative_o notwithstanding_o the_o magistrate_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o do_v justice_n according_a to_o law_n even_o upon_o those_o penitent_a sinner_n chap._n v._o of_o a_o twofold_a kingdom_n of_o jesus_n christ_n a_o general_a kingdom_n as_o he_o be_v the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n the_o head_n of_o all_o principality_n and_o power_n reign_v over_o all_o creature_n and_o a_o particular_a kingdom_n as_o he_o be_v mediator_n reign_v over_o the_o church_n only_o the_o controversy_n which_o have_v be_v move_v concern_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n his_o vicegerentship_n and_o the_o hold_v of_o his_o office_n of_o and_o under_o and_o for_o jesus_n christ_n as_o he_o be_v mediator_n have_v a_o necessary_a coherence_n with_o and_o dependence_n upon_o another_o controversy_n concern_v a_o twofold_a kingdom_n of_o jesus_n christ_n one_o as_o he_o be_v the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n reign_v together_o with_o the_o father_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n over_o all_o thing_n and_o so_o the_o magistrate_n be_v his_o vicegerent_n and_o hold_v his_o office_n of_o and_o under_o he_o another_o as_o mediator_n and_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o the_o magistrate_n do_v not_o hold_v his_o office_n of_o and_o under_o christ_n as_o his_o vicegerent_n wherefore_o before_o i_o come_v to_o that_o question_n concern_v the_o origination_n and_o tenure_n of_o the_o magistrate_n office_n i_o have_v think_v good_a here_o to_o premise_v the_o enodation_n of_o the_o question_n concern_v the_o twofold_a kingdom_n of_o jesus_n christ._n it_o be_v a_o distinction_n which_o master_n hussey_n can_v endure_v and_o no_o marvel_n for_o it_o overturn_v the_o foundation_n of_o his_o opinion_n he_o look_v upon_o it_o as_o a_o absurd_a assertion_n pag._n 25._o shall_v he_o have_v one_o kingdom_n as_o mediator_n and_o another_o as_o god_n he_o quarrel_v all_o that_o i_o say_v of_o the_o twofold_a kingdom_n of_o christ_n and_o will_v not_o admit_v that_o christ_n as_o mediator_n be_v king_n of_o the_o church_n only_o pag._n 25_o 26_o 27_o 35_o 36_o 37._o the_o controversy_n draw_v deep_a than_o he_o be_v aware_a of_o for_o socinian_o and_o photinian_o find_v themselves_o puzzle_v with_o those_o argument_n which_o to_o prove_v the_o eternal_a godhead_n of_o jesus_n christ_n be_v draw_v from_o such_o scripture_n as_o call_v he_o god_n lord_n the_o son_n of_o god_n also_o from_o such_o scripture_n as_o ascribe_v worship_n and_o adoration_n to_o he_o and_o from_o the_o text_n which_o ascribe_v to_o he_o a_o supreme_a lordship_n dominion_n and_o kingdom_n over_o all_o thing_n for_o this_o have_v be_v use_v as_o one_o argument_n for_o the_o godhead_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o his_o consubstantiality_n with_o the_o father_n the_o father_n reign_v the_o son_n reign_v the_o holy_a ghost_n reign_v vide_fw-la lib._n isaaci_fw-la clari_fw-la hispani_fw-la adversus_fw-la varimadum_fw-la arianum_n thereupon_o they_o devise_v this_o answer_n that_o jesus_n christ_n in_o respect_n of_o his_o kingly_a office_n and_o as_o mediator_n be_v call_v god_n and_o lord_n and_o the_o son_n of_o god_n of_o which_o see_n fest._n honnij_fw-la specimen_fw-la controu._n belgic_a pag._n 24._o jonas_n schlichtingius_fw-la contra_fw-la meisnerum_fw-la pag._n 436._o and_o that_o in_o the_o same_o respect_n he_o be_v worship_v that_o in_o the_o same_o respect_n he_o be_v king_n and_o that_o the_o kingdom_n which_o the_o scripture_n ascribe_v to_o jesus_n christ_n be_v only_o as_o mediator_n and_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o he_o have_v no_o such_o universal_a dominion_n over_o all_o thing_n as_o can_v prove_v he_o to_o be_v the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n this_o give_v occasion_n to_o orthodox-protestant-writters_a more_o full_o and_o distinct_o to_o assert_v the_o great_a difference_n between_o that_o which_o the_o scripture_n say_v of_o christ_n as_o he_o be_v the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n and_o that_o which_o it_o say_v of_o he_o as_o he_o be_v mediator_n and_o particular_o to_o assert_v a_o twofold_a kingdom_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o to_o prove_v from_o scripture_n that_o beside_o that_o kingdom_n which_o christ_n have_v as_o mediator_n he_o have_v another_o kingdom_n over_o all_o thing_n which_o belong_v to_o he_o only_o as_o he_o be_v the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n this_o the_o socinian_o to_o this_o day_n do_v contradict_v and_o stisly_a hold_n that_o christ_n have_v but_o one_o kingdom_n which_o he_o exercise_v as_o
be_v for_o impenitent_a contumacious_a offender_n but_o the_o magistrate_n do_v and_o must_v punish_v offender_n when_o the_o course_n of_o justice_n and_o law_n so_o require_v whether_o they_o appear_v penitent_a or_o impenitent_a four_o the_o magistrate_n power_n of_o punish_v offender_n be_v bound_v by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n what_o then_o shall_v become_v of_o such_o scandal_n as_o be_v not_o crime_n punishable_a by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n such_o as_o obscene_a rot_a talk_v adulterous_a and_o vile_a behaviour_n or_o the_o most_o scandalous_a converse_v and_o company_v together_o though_o the_o crime_n of_o adultery_n can_v be_v prove_v by_o witness_n live_v in_o know_a malice_n and_o envy_v refuse_v to_o be_v reconcile_v and_o thereupon_o lie_v off_o it_o may_v be_v for_o a_o long_a time_n from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o like_a which_o be_v not_o proper_a to_o be_v take_v notice_n of_o by_o the_o civil_a judge_n so_o that_o in_o this_o case_n either_o there_o must_v be_v church-censure_n and_o discipline_n exercise_v by_o church-officer_n or_o the_o magistrate_n must_v go_v beyond_o his_o limit_n or_o last_o scandal_n shall_v spread_v in_o the_o church_n and_o no_o remedy_n against_o they_o far_o be_v it_o from_o the_o thought_n of_o christian_a magistrate_n that_o scandal_n of_o this_o kind_n shall_v be_v tolerate_v to_o the_o dishonour_n of_o god_n the_o lay_n of_o the_o stumble_a block_n of_o bad_a example_n before_o other_o and_o to_o the_o violation_n and_o pollution_n of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o jesus_n christ_n who_o have_v command_v to_o keep_v his_o ordinance_n pure_a a_o second_o argument_n may_v be_v this_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n god_n do_v not_o command_v the_o magistrate_n but_o the_o priest_n to_o put_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o profane_a and_o the_o holy_a the_o unclean_a and_o the_o clean_a levit._fw-la 10._o 10._o ezech._n 22._o 26._o ezech._n 44._o 23_o 24._o deut._n 21._o 5._o 2_o chron._n 23._o 18_o 19_o and_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v give_v to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n matth._n 16._o 19_o and_o 18._o 18._o john_n 20._o 23._o but_o no_o where_o to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n it_o belong_v to_o church-officer_n to_o censure_v false_a doctrine_n revel_v 2._o 2._o 14._o 15._o to_o decide_v controversy_n act_n 16._o 4._o and_o to_o examine_v and_o censure_v scandal_n ezech._n 44_o 23_o 24._o which_o be_v a_o prophecy_n concern_v the_o ministry_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o elder_n judge_v a_o elder_a 1_o tim._n 5._o 19_o or_o any_o other_o church-member_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 12._o three_o the_o scripture_n hold_v forth_o the_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a power_n as_o most_o distinct_a insomuch_o that_o it_o condemn_v the_o spiritualize_a of_o the_o civil_a power_n aswell_o as_o the_o secularize_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n state_n papacy_n aswell_o as_o papal-state_n church-officer_n may_v not_o take_v the_o civil_a sword_n nor_o judge_v civil_a cause_n luke_n 12._o 13_o 14_o and_o 22._o 25._o matth._n 26._o 52._o 2_o cor._n 10._o 4._o 2_o tim._n 2._o 4._o so_o uzzah_n may_v not_o touch_v the_o ark_n nor_o saul_n offer_v burn_v offering_n nor_o uzziah_n burn_v incense_n i_o wish_v we_o may_v not_o have_v cause_n to_o revive_v the_o proverb_n which_o be_v use_v in_o ambrose_n his_o time_n that_o emperor_n do_v more_o covet_v the_o priesthood_n than_o the_o priest_n do_v covet_v the_o empire_n shall_v it_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o church-officer_n to_o exercise_v any_o act_n of_o civil_a government_n and_o shall_v it_o be_v no_o sin_n to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o engross_v the_o whole_a and_o sole_a power_n of_o church-government_n be_v not_o the_o two_o power_n formal_o and_o specifical_o distinct_a of_o which_o before_z chap._n 4._o it_o be_v to_o be_v well_o note_v that_o maccovius_fw-la and_o vedelius_fw-la who_o ascribe_v a_o sort_n of_o papal_a power_n to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o the_o great_a scandal_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n do_v notwithstanding_o acknowledge_v that_o christ_n have_v appoint_v church_n discipline_n and_o censure_n and_o the_o same_o to_o be_v dispense_v by_o church-officer_n only_o and_o that_o the_o magistrate_n as_o he_o may_v not_o preach_v the_o word_n and_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n so_o he_o may_v not_o exercise_v church-discipline_n nor_o inslict_v spiritual_a censure_n such_o as_o excommunication_n though_o erastus_n pag._n 175._o have_v not_o spare_v to_o say_v that_o the_o magistrate_n may_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n though_o he_o may_v not_o in_o the_o old_a exercise_v the_o ministerial_a function_n if_o he_o can_v have_v so_o much_o leisure_n from_o his_o other_o employment_n four_o the_o power_n of_o church_n discipline_n be_v intrinsical_v to_o the_o church_n that_o be_v both_o they_o who_o censure_n and_o they_o who_o be_v censure_v must_v be_v of_o the_o church_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 12._o 13._o they_o must_v be_v of_o one_o and_o the_o same_o corporation_n the_o one_o must_v not_o be_v in_o the_o body_n and_o the_o other_o out_o of_o the_o body_n but_o if_o this_o power_n be_v in_o the_o magistrate_n it_o be_v extrinsecall_v to_o the_o church_n for_o the_o magistrate_n quatenus_fw-la a_o magistrate_n be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o a_o church-member_n far_o less_o can_v the_o magistrate_n as_o magistrate_n have_v jurisdiction_n over_o church-member_n as_o church_n member_n even_o as_o the_o minister_n as_o minister_v be_v not_o a_o member_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n or_o state_n far_o less_o can_v he_o as_o minister_v exercise_v jurisdiction_n over_o the_o subject_n as_o subject_n the_o christian_a magistrate_n in_o england_n be_v not_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o a_o magistrate_n but_o as_o a_o christian._n and_o the_o minister_n of_o jesus_n christ_n in_o england_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o magistrate_n as_o he_o be_v a_o minister_n of_o christ_n but_o as_o he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n of_o england_n he_o be_v both_o a_o learned_a man_n and_o a_o great_a royallist_n in_o scotland_n who_o hold_v that_o all_o king_n infidel_n as_o well_o as_o christian_a have_v equal_a authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o church_n though_o all_o be_v not_o alike_o qualify_v or_o able_a to_o exercise_v it_o io._n wemius_n de_fw-la reg._n primate_n pag._n 123._o let_v our_o opposite_n lose_v this_o knot_n among_o themselves_o for_o they_o be_v not_o of_o one_o opinion_n about_o it_o five_o church-officer_n may_v and_o do_v free_o and_o by_o themselves_o dispense_v church-censure_n under_o pagan_a and_o unbelieved_a magistrate_n as_o be_v by_o all_o confess_v now_o the_o church_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v in_o a_o worse_a condition_n under_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n then_o under_o a_o infidel_n for_o the_o power_n of_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v cumulative_a not_o privative_a to_o the_o church_n he_o be_v a_o nurse_n father_n isa._n 49._o 23._o not_o a_o stepfather_n he_o be_v keeper_n defender_n and_o guardian_n of_o both_o table_n but_o neither_o judge_n nor_o interpreter_n of_o scripture_n six_o i_o shall_v shut_v up_o this_o argumentation_n with_o a_o convince_a dilemma_n the_o assembly_n of_o church-officer_n be_v to_o exercise_v discipline_n and_o censure_v offence_n which_o be_v suppose_v and_o must_v be_v grant_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o parliament_n either_o they_o have_v power_n to_o do_v this_o jure_fw-la proprio_fw-la and_o virtute_fw-la officii_fw-la or_o only_o jure_fw-la devoluto_fw-la and_o virtute_fw-la delegationis_fw-la such_o authority_n be_v derive_v from_o the_o magistrate_n if_o the_o former_a i_o have_v what_o i_o will_v if_o the_o latter_a than_o it_o follow_v 1._o that_o where_o presbytery_n and_o synod_n do_v exercise_v spiritual_a jurisdiction_n not_o by_o any_o power_n derive_v from_o or_o dependent_a upon_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n but_o in_o the_o name_n and_o authority_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o by_o the_o power_n receive_v from_o he_o as_o in_o scotland_n france_n the_o low-countries_n etc._n etc._n there_o all_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n such_o as_o deposition_n of_o minister_n and_o excommunication_n of_o scandalous_a and_o obstinate_a person_n have_v be_v be_v and_o shall_v be_v void_a null_n and_o of_o no_o effect_n even_o as_o when_o the_o prelatical_a party_n do_v hold_v that_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n pertain_v only_o to_o prelate_n or_o such_o as_o be_v delegate_v with_o commission_n and_o authority_n from_o they_o thereupon_o they_o be_v so_o put_v to_o it_o by_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o anti-episcopall_a party_n that_o they_o be_v force_v to_o say_v that_o presbyter_n ordain_v by_o presbyter_n in_o other_o reform_a church_n be_v no_o presbyter_n and_o their_o excommunication_n be_v no_o excommunication_n 2._o it_o will_v follow_v that_o the_o magistrate_n himself_o may_v excommunicate_v for_o nemo_fw-la potest_fw-la aliis_fw-la
militate_v not_o only_o against_o erastus_n and_o bilson_n but_o likewise_o against_o sutlivius_n de_fw-fr presb._n cap._n 9_o where_o he_o give_v this_o sense_n of_o matth._n 18._o 15_o 16_o 17._o that_o we_o ought_v to_o take_v heed_n we_o give_v no_o scandal_n in_o the_o pursue_n of_o injury_n and_o for_o that_o end_n ought_v to_o give_v admonition_n first_o private_o then_o before_o witness_n and_o in_o case_n of_o obstinacy_n in_o the_o brother_n that_o have_v do_v the_o injury_n to_o tell_v the_o ruler_n of_o the_o church_n mean_v the_o prelate_n and_o if_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v they_o then_o to_o go_v to_o law_n with_o that_o brother_n as_o with_o a_o heathen_a or_o publican_n the_o other_o argument_n which_o be_v to_o follow_v the_o last_o except_v strike_v not_o at_o his_o interpretation_n but_o at_o those_o other_o gloss_n of_o erastus_n bilson_n and_o master_n prynne_n four_o this_o erastian_n exposition_n make_v these_o word_n but_o if_o he_o neglect_v to_o hear_v the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v unto_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a man_n and_o a_o publican_n to_o be_v applicable_a only_o to_o such_o christian_n as_o live_v under_o unbelieving_a magistrate_n and_o not_o to_o all_o christian_n this_o consequence_n erastus_n foresee_v that_o it_o will_v needs_o follow_v from_o his_o interpretation_n therefore_o he_o plain_o ow_v it_o thes._n 47._o he_o confess_v that_o the_o former_a part_n concern_v rebuke_v and_o seek_v to_o gain_v the_o offend_a brother_n belong_v to_o all_o christian_n what_o a_o boldness_n be_v here_o to_o rend_v asunder_o this_o passage_n of_o scripture_n which_o be_v utter_v as_o it_o be_v with_o one_o breath_n and_o why_o do_v not_o the_o latter_a part_n also_o belong_v unto_o all_o christian_n must_v christian_n that_o live_v under_o a_o infidel_n magistrate_n have_v more_o effectual_a mean_n and_o way_n to_o use_v towards_o a_o offend_a brother_n and_o may_v they_o go_v a_o step_n further_o in_o put_v he_o to_o shame_n or_o in_o humble_v he_o than_o those_o christian_n can_v do_v who_o live_v under_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n how_o well_o do_v this_o hang_v together_o i_o shall_v have_v think_v the_o balance_n must_v rather_o fall_v to_o this_o hand_n but_o to_o make_v the_o condition_n of_o those_o who_o live_v under_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n to_o be_v more_o privative_a and_o the_o condition_n of_o those_o who_o live_v under_o a_o infidel_n magistrate_n to_o be_v more_o cumulative_a be_v too_o great_a a_o paradox_n for_o i_o six_o whereas_o they_o say_v that_o the_o way_n prescribe_v by_o christ_n matth._n 18._o be_v such_o as_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n and_o they_o understand_v by_o tell_v the_o church_n tell_v the_o magistrate_n i_o ask_v what_o magistrate_n if_o the_o judge_n and_o magistrate_n of_o the_o city_n as_o bishop_n bilson_n think_v than_o he_o who_o do_v not_o hearken_v to_o those_o judge_n may_v appeal_v to_o the_o great_a sanhedrin_n at_o jerusalem_n or_o the_o judge_n themselves_o may_v refer_v and_o transmit_v the_o case_n thither_o so_o that_o the_o man_n be_v not_o to_o be_v straight_o way_n account_v as_o a_o heathen_a man_n and_o a_o publican_n but_o if_o by_o the_o church_n they_o understand_v the_o great_a sanhedrin_n itself_o he_o that_o will_v not_o hearken_v to_o it_o be_v to_o be_v put_v to_o death_n by_o the_o law_n deut._n 17._o so_o that_o it_o have_v not_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n to_o teach_v that_o he_o who_o will_v not_o hearken_v to_o the_o great_a sanhedrin_n be_v to_o be_v esteem_v as_o a_o heathen_a man_n and_o a_o publican_n for_o this_o suppose_v that_o he_o shall_v not_o die_v but_o be_v suffer_v to_o live_v seven_o the_o erastian_n principle_n do_v plain_o contradict_v and_o confute_v themselves_o for_o both_o erastus_n bishop_n bilson_n and_o master_n prynne_n hold_v that_o he_o jewish_a sanhedrin_n in_o christ_n time_n be_v a_o temporal_a magistracy_n and_o a_o civil_a court_n of_o justice_n which_o have_v power_n to_o scourge_v imprison_v torture_n and_o outlaw_n offender_n yea_o to_o put_v to_o death_n as_o the_o first_o two_o do_v positive_o aver_v interpretation_n how_o then_o can_v it_o be_v say_v if_o he_o neglect_v to_o hear_v the_o church_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v if_o he_o neglect_v to_o hear_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n who_o have_v power_n to_o imprison_v scourge_n torture_n outlaw_n yea_o to_o put_v he_o to_o death_n sure_o if_o he_o neglect_v to_o hear_v the_o church_n do_v intimate_v that_o the_o church_n have_v not_o use_v nor_o can_v use_v any_o external_a coercive_a power_n erastus_n find_v himself_o so_o mighty_o puzzle_v with_o this_o difficulty_n that_o to_o make_v out_o his_o interpretation_n of_o matth._n 18._o he_o confess_v thes._n 53._o and_o confirm_v thes._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 2._o the_o jewish_a sanhedrin_n have_v no_o power_n under_o the_o roman_n to_o judge_v of_o civil_a cause_n and_o injury_n but_o of_o thing_n pertain_v to_o their_o religion_n only_o rebus_fw-la so_o that_o at_o that_o time_n say_v he_o a_o man_n may_v impune_fw-la without_o punishment_n contemn_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o sanhedrin_n in_o civil_a thing_n and_o thus_o while_o he_o seek_v a_o salvo_n for_o his_o gloss_n upon_o matth._n 18._o he_o overthrow_v the_o great_a argument_n by_o which_o he_o and_o his_o follower_n endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o sanhedrin_n in_o christ_n time_n but_o a_o civil_a court_n of_o justice_n because_o say_v they_o that_o sanhedrin_n have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o sword_n and_o other_o temporal_a punishment_n eight_o observe_v the_o gradation_n in_o the_o text_n 1._o a_o private_a conviction_n or_o rebuke_n 2._o conviction_n before_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n 3._o conviction_n before_o the_o church_n and_o the_o church_n declare_v the_o thing_n to_o be_v a_o offence_n and_o command_v the_o offender_n to_o turn_v from_o his_o evil_a way_n 4._o if_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n which_o imply_v that_o the_o church_n have_v speak_v and_o require_v he_o to_o do_v somewhat_o which_o he_o refuse_v to_o do_v then_o let_v he_o be_v as_o a_o heathen_a man_n and_o a_o publican_n this_o last_o be_v heavy_a than_o all_o that_o go_v before_o and_o be_v the_o punishment_n of_o his_o not_o hear_v the_o church_n now_o this_o gradation_n be_v in_o consistent_a with_o the_o interpretation_n which_o erastus_n give_v for_o by_o his_o own_o confession_n the_o sanh_o drin_o of_o the_o jew_n at_o that_o time_n have_v not_o power_n to_o judge_v of_o civil_a cause_n nor_o to_o punish_v any_o man_n for_o a_o civil_a injury_n but_o for_o a_o matter_n of_o religion_n only_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o matter_n of_o religion_n but_o civil_a trespass_n which_o he_o understand_v to_o be_v mean_v matth._n 18._o here_o be_v a_o intercision_n in_o the_o three_o step_n of_o the_o gradation_n and_o if_o it_o be_v a_o offence_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o religion_n it_o have_v not_o be_v a_o great_a punishment_n but_o a_o great_a ease_n to_o the_o offender_n to_o draw_v he_o before_o the_o roman_a tribunal_n for_o the_o roman_n care_v for_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n of_o which_o the_o jewish_a sanhedrin_n be_v most_o zealous_a the_o gradation_n in_o the_o text_n be_v as_o inconsistent_a with_o m_n r_o prynnes_n interpretation_n for_o imagine_v the_o offender_n to_o be_v after_o previous_a admonition_n public_o accuse_v and_o convict_v before_o the_o church_n that_o be_v in_o his_o opinion_n the_o civil_a court_n of_o justice_n which_o have_v power_n to_o imprison_v scourge_n torture_n and_o outlaw_n offender_n if_o not_o to_o condemn_v and_o put_v to_o death_n what_o shall_v be_v do_v with_o such_o a_o one_o can_v we_o go_v no_o high_o yes_o thus_o it_o be_v in_o m_o r_o prynnes_n sense_n he_o that_o will_v not_o submit_v to_o the_o magistrate_n and_o can_v be_v reduce_v by_o stripe_n and_o imprisonment_n torture_v and_o outlaw_v yea_o peradventure_o by_o condemnation_n to_o die_v the_o death_n let_v this_o be_v the_o last_o remedy_n for_o such_o a_o one_o let_v he_o be_v unto_o thou_o as_o a_o beathen_a man_n and_o a_o publican_n that_o be_v withdraw_v familiar_a civil_a company_n from_o he_o nine_o that_o interpretation_n of_o erastus_n lean_v to_o a_o false_a supposition_n namely_o that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o a_o publican_n be_v mean_v universal_o of_o all_o publican_n good_a or_o bad_a or_o whatever_o they_o be_v to_o prove_v this_o he_o take_v a_o argument_n pag._n 189_o 190_o 195._o from_o the_o article_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o with_o the_o grecian_n say_v he_o the_o article_n be_v join_v to_o the_o predicate_v note_v the_o nature_n and_o consequent_o the_o universality_n of_o the_o thing_n whence_o he_o conclude_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v
3._o but_o we_o be_v the_o servant_n both_o of_o christ_n and_o of_o his_o church_n we_o preach_v not_o ourselves_o say_v the_o apostle_n but_o christ_n jesus_n the_o lord_n and_o ourselves_o your_o servant_n for_o jesus_n sake_n 2_o cor._n 4._o 5._o 3._o that_o power_n of_o government_n with_o which_o pastor_n and_o elder_n be_v invest_v have_v for_o the_o object_n of_o it_o not_o the_o external_a man_n but_o the_o inward_a man_n it_o be_v not_o nor_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v exercise_v in_o any_o compulsive_a coercive_a corporal_a or_o civil_a punishment_n when_o there_o be_v need_n of_o coercion_n or_o compulsion_n it_o belong_v to_o the_o magistrate_n not_o to_o the_o minister_n though_o the_o question_n be_v of_o a_o matter_n of_o religion_n of_o person_n or_o thing_n ecclesiastical_a which_o as_o it_o be_v right_o observe_v by_o hominis_fw-la salmasius_n so_o he_o further_o assert_v against_o the_o popish_a writer_n that_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n have_v for_o the_o object_n of_o it_o only_o the_o inward_a man_n for_o consider_v the_o end_n of_o church-censure_n say_v he_o even_o when_o one_o be_v ex_fw-la communicate_v or_o suspend_v from_o the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v but_o to_o reduce_v he_o and_o restore_v he_o by_o repentance_n that_o he_o may_v again_o partake_v of_o the_o sacrament_n right_o and_o comfortable_o which_o repentance_n be_v in_o the_o soul_n or_o inward_a man_n though_o the_o sign_n of_o it_o appear_v external_o 4._o presbyterial_a government_n be_v not_o a_o arbitrary_a government_n for_o clear_v whereof_o take_v these_o five_o consideration_n 1._o we_o can_v do_v nothing_o against_o the_o truth_n but_o for_o the_o truth_n and_o the_o power_n which_o the_o lord_n have_v give_v u●_n be_v to_o edification_n and_o not_o to_o destruction_n 2_o cor._n 13_o 8_o 10._o all_o presbyterial_a proceed_n must_v be_v level_v to_o this_o end_n and_o square_v by_o this_o rule_n 2._o presbyter_n and_o presbytery_n be_v 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n and_o to_o the_o corrective_a power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n quatenus_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la in_o republica_n &_o reipub._n pars_fw-la non_fw-la respublica_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la in_o so_o far_o as_o the_o church_n be_v in_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o a_o part_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n not_o the_o commonwealth_n a_o part_n of_o the_o church_n say_v salmasius_n appar_fw-la ad_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr primatu_fw-la pag._n 292._o for_o which_o pag._n 300._o he_o cite_v optatus_n milivitanus_n lib._n 3._o non_fw-la enim_fw-la respullica_n est_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la sed_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la in_o republica_n minister_n and_o elder_n be_v subject_n and_o member_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o in_o that_o respect_n punishable_a by_o the_o magistrate_n if_o they_o transgress_v the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n 3._o yea_o also_o as_o church-officer_n they_o be_v to_o be_v keep_v within_o the_o limit_n of_o their_o call_n and_o compel_v if_o need_v be_v by_o the_o magistrate_n to_o do_v those_o duty_n which_o by_o the_o clear_a word_n of_o god_n and_o receive_v principle_n of_o christian_a religion_n or_o by_o the_o receive_v ecclesiastical_a constitution_n of_o that_o church_n they_o ought_v to_o do_v 4._o and_o in_o corrupto_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la statu_fw-la i_o mean_v if_o it_o shall_v ever_o happen_v which_o the_o lord_n forbid_v and_o i_o trust_v shall_v never_o be_v that_o presbytery_n or_o synod_n shall_v make_v defection_n from_o the_o truth_n to_o error_n from_o holiness_n to_o profaneness_n from_o moderation_n to_o tyranny_n and_o persecution_n censure_v the_o innocent_a and_o absolve_a the_o guilty_a as_o popery_n and_o prelacy_n do_v and_o there_o be_v no_o hope_n of_o redress_v such_o enormity_n in_o the_o ordinary_a way_n by_o intrinsical_v ecclesiastical_a remedy_n that_o be_v by_o well-constituted_n synod_n or_o assembly_n of_o orthodox_n holy_a moderate_a presbyter_n in_o such_o a_o extraordinary_a exigence_n the_o christian_a magistrate_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o interpose_v his_o authority_n to_o do_v diverse_a thing_n which_o in_o a_o ordinary_a course_n of_o government_n he_o ought_v not_o to_o do_v for_o in_o such_o a_o case_n magistracy_n without_o expect_v the_o proper_a intrinsical_a remedy_n of_o better_a ecclesiastical_a assembly_n may_v immediate_o by_o itself_o and_o in_o the_o most_o effectual_a manner_n suppress_v and_o restrain_v such_o defection_n exorbitancy_n and_o tyranny_n and_o not_o suffer_v the_o unjust_a heretical_a tyrannical_a sentence_n of_o presbytery_n or_o synod_n to_o be_v put_v in_o execution_n howbeit_o in_o ecclesia_fw-la bene_fw-la constituta_fw-la in_o a_o well_o constitute_v and_o reform_a church_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v suppose_v that_o the_o condition_n of_o affair_n will_v be_v such_o as_o i_o have_v now_o say_v we_o hearty_o acknowledge_v with_o mr._n cartwright_n annot_n on_o mat._n 22._o sect._n 3_o that_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o magistrate_n to_o reform_v thing_n in_o the_o church_n as_o often_o as_o the_o ecclesiastical_a person_n shall_v either_o through_o ignorance_n or_o disorder_n of_o the_o affection_n of_o covetuousnesse_n or_o ambition_n d●…file_v the_o lord_n sanctuary_n for_o say_v junius_n animad_fw-la in_o bell._n contr_n 4._o lib._n 1._o cap._n 12._o &_o 18._o both_o the_o church_n when_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o magistrate_n fail_v may_v extraordinary_o do_v something_o which_o ordinary_o she_o can_v and_o again_o when_o the_o church_n fail_v of_o her_o duty_n the_o magistrate_n may_v extraordinary_o procure_v that_o the_o church_n return_v to_o her_o duty_n 5._o i_o dare_v confident_o say_v that_o if_o comparison_n be_v right_o make_v presbyterial_a government_n be_v the_o most_o limit_v and_o the_o least_o arbitrary_a government_n of_o any_o other_o in_o the_o world_n i_o shall_v have_v think_v it_o very_o unnecessary_a and_o superfluous_a to_o have_v once_o name_v here_o the_o papal_a government_n or_o yet_o the_o 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fall_v in_o the_o same_o ditch_n with_o he_o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o church-officer_n ought_v to_o have_v any_o share_n in_o the_o civil_a government_n nor_o whether_o church-officer_n may_v have_v any_o lordly_a government_n or_o imperious_a domination_n over_o the_o lord_n heritage_n nor_o whether_o church-officer_n may_v exercise_v a_o arbitrary_a irregular_a government_n and_o rule_v as_o themselves_o list_n god_n forbid_v but_o the_o question_n plain_o be_v whether_o there_o may_v not_o yea_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n a_o ministerial_a or_o ecclesiastical_a government_n proper_o so_o call_v beside_o the_o civil_a government_n or_o magistracy_n mr._n coleman_n do_v and_o mr._n hussey_n do_v hold_v there_o ought_v not_o i_o hold_v there_o aught_o and_o i_o shall_v propound_v for_o the_o affirmative_a these_o argument_n the_o first_o argument_n i_o draw_v from_o 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d elder_n that_o rule_v well_o mr._n hussey_n pag._n 8._o ask_v whether_o the_o word_n elder_a be_v prima_fw-la or_o secunda_fw-la notio_fw-la if_o prima_fw-la notio_fw-la why_o must_v not_o elder_a woman_n be_v church-officer_n as_o well_o as_o elder_a man_n if_o secunda_fw-la notio_fw-la for_o a_o roll_a officer_n parliament_z man_n king_n and_o all_o civil_a governor_n be_v such_o elder_n i_o know_v no_o use_n which_o that_o distinction_n of_o prima_fw-la and_o secunda_fw-la notio_fw-la have_v in_o this_o place_n except_o to_o let_v we_o know_v that_o he_o understand_v these_o logical_a term_n egregiam_fw-la vero_fw-la laudem_fw-la he_o may_v have_v save_v himself_o the_o labour_n for_o who_o know_v not_o hieromes_n distinction_n elder_n be_v either_o a_o word_n of_o age_n or_o of_o office_n but_o in_o ecclesiastical_a use_n it_o be_v a_o word_n of_o office_n mr._n husseys_n first_o notion_n concern_v elder_a woman_n be_v no_o masculine_a notion_n his_o second_o notion_n be_v a_o anti-parliamentary_a notion_n for_o 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parliament_n man_n see_v how_o well_o mr._n hussey_n plead_v for_o christian_a magistracy_n it_o be_v also_o a_o anti-scripturall_a notion_n for_o some_o of_o those_o elder_n that_o rule_v well_o do_v labour_n in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n as_o paul_n tell_v we_o in_o the_o very_a same_o place_n these_o sure_a be_v not_o civil_a governor_n wherefore_o mr._n hussey_n must_v seek_v a_o three_o notion_n before_o he_o hit_v the_o apostle_n meaning_n it_o be_v not_o huius_fw-la loci_fw-la to_o debate_n from_o this_o text_n the_o distinction_n of_o two_o sort_n of_o elder_n though_o among_o all_o the_o answer_n which_o ever_o i_o hear_v or_o read_v mr._n husseys_n be_v the_o weak_a pag._n 11._o that_o by_o elder_n that_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n be_v mean_v those_o minister_n who_o excellency_n lie_v in_o doctrine_n and_o instruction_n and_o that_o by_o elder_n that_o rule_v be_v mean_v those_o that_o give_v reproof_n he_o contradistinguish_v a_o reprove_v minister_n 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among_o you_o and_o be_v over_o you_o in_o the_o lord_n and_o admonish_v you_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d qui_fw-la praesunt_fw-la vobis_fw-la hence_o do_v calvin_n conclude_v gubernant_a a_o church_n government_n distinct_a from_o civil_a government_n for_o this_o be_v a_o spiritual_a government_n it_o be_v in_o the_o lord_n that_o be_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n or_o as_o other_o in_o thing_n pertain_v to_o god_n hence_o also_o beza_n argue_v against_o episcopal_a government_n because_o the_o elder_n in_o the_o apostolic_a church_n do_v govern_v in_o common_a but_o say_v mr._n hussey_n pag._n 18._o pasor_n tell_v we_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o a_o genitive_a case_n signify_v praecedo_fw-la and_o then_o it_o signify_v no_o more_o but_o they_o that_o go_v before_o you_o either_o by_o doctrine_n or_o example_n i_o answer_v first_o to_o the_o matter_n next_o to_o the_o force_n of_o the_o word_n for_o the_o matter_n certain_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 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rite_n the_o judgement_n of_o which_o multitude_n say_v he_o seniores_fw-la tanquam_fw-la praesides_fw-la moderabantur_fw-la the_o elder_n as_o president_n do_v moderate_a he_o further_o clear_v it_o out_o of_o tertullian_n apol_n cap._n 39_o where_o speak_v of_o the_o church_n or_o assembly_n of_o christian_n he_o say_v ibidem_fw-la etiam_fw-la exhortationes_fw-la castigationes_fw-la &_o censura_fw-la divina_fw-la etc._n etc._n president_n probati_fw-la quique_fw-la seniores_fw-la where_o there_o be_v also_o exhortation_n correction_n and_o divine_a censure_n etc._n etc._n all_o the_o approve_a elder_n do_v preside_v and_o be_v not_o this_o the_o very_a thing_n we_o contend_v for_o i_o hope_v i_o may_v now_o conclude_v that_o tell_v the_o church_n be_v neither_o mean_v of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n nor_o simple_o of_o a_o great_a number_n but_o of_o the_o elder_n or_o as_o other_o express_v it_o better_o of_o the_o eldership_n or_o assembly_n of_o elder_n so_o stephanus_n scapula_n and_o pasor_n in_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d calvin_n bucerus_n illyricus_n beza_n hunnius_n tossanus_n pareus_n cartwright_n camero_n diodati_n the_o dutch_a annotation_n all_o upon_o the_o place_n marlorat_n in_o thesauro_fw-la in_o the_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la zanchius_n in_o 4._o praec_fw-la pag._n 741._o junius_n animad_fw-la in_o bell._n contr._n 3._o lib._n 1._o cap._n 6._o gerhard_n loc_n theol_fw-it tom._n 6._o pag._n 137._o meisuerus_fw-la disput._n de_fw-la regim_fw-la eccles._n quaest_n 1._o trelcatius_n instit._n theol._n lib._n 1._o pag._n 291._o polanus_fw-la syntag._n lib._n 7._o cap._n 1._o bullinger_n in_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 4._o whittaker_n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la quaest_n 1._o cap._n 2._o danaeus_n in_o 1_o tim._n pag._n 246._o 394._o these_o and_o many_o more_o understand_v that_o neither_o the_o magistrate_n nor_o the_o multitude_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o simple_o a_o great_a number_n be_v mean_v by_o the_o church_n matth._n 18._o but_o the_o elder_n or_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n who_o have_v the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n partly_o by_o a_o synecdoche_n because_o they_o be_v a_o chief_a part_n of_o the_o church_n as_o otherwhere_o the_o people_n or_o flock_n distinct_a from_o the_o elder_n be_v call_v the_o church_n act._n 20._o 28._o partly_o because_o of_o their_o eminent_a station_n and_o principal_a function_n in_o the_o church_n as_o we_o say_v we_o have_v see_v such_o a_o man_n picture_n when_o haply_o it_o be_v but_o from_o the_o shoulder_n upward_o partly_o because_o the_o elder_n act_n in_o all_o matter_n of_o importance_n so_o as_o they_o carry_v along_o with_o they_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o according_a to_o salmeron_n his_o observation_n tom._n 4._o part_n 3._o tract_n 9_o christ_n will_v not_o say_v tell_v the_o officer_n or_o ruler_n of_o the_o church_n but_o tell_v the_o church_n because_o a_o obstinate_a offender_n be_v not_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a secret_o or_o in_o a_o corner_n but_o with_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n so_o that_o for_o strike_v of_o the_o sinner_n with_o the_o great_a fear_n and_o shame_n in_o regard_n of_o that_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n the_o tell_n of_o the_o officer_n be_v call_v the_o tell_n of_o the_o church_n partly_o also_o because_o of_o the_o ordinary_a manner_n of_o speak_v in_o the_o like_a case_n that_o which_o be_v do_v by_o the_o parliament_n be_v do_v by_o the_o kingdom_n and_o that_o which_o be_v do_v by_o the_o common_a council_n be_v do_v by_o the_o city_n among_o the_o jew_n with_o who_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n be_v conversant_a this_o manner_n of_o speak_v be_v usual_a danaeus_n where_o before_o cite_v cit_v r._n david_n kimchi_n upon_o ose._n 5._o note_v that_o the_o name_n of_o the_o house_n of_o israel_n be_v often_o put_v for_o the_o sanhedrin_n in_o scripture_n it_o be_v certain_a the_o sanhedrin_n have_v divers_a time_n the_o name_n kabal_n in_o the_o hebrew_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o greek_a of_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o be_v acknowledge_v even_o by_o those_o who_o have_v contend_v for_o a_o kind_n of_o popular_a government_n in_o the_o church_n see_v guide_n unto_o zion_n pag._n 5._o ainsworth_n in_o his_o counterpoison_v pag._n 113._o chap._n vi_o of_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v matth._n 18._o 18._o they_o that_o do_v not_o understand_v matth._n 18._o 17._o of_o excommunication_n be_v extreme_o difficulted_a and_o scarce_o know_v what_o to_o make_v of_o that_o bind_n and_o lose_v which_o be_v mention_v in_o the_o word_n immediate_o follow_v v_o 18._o very_o i_o say_v unto_o you_o whatsoever_o you_o shall_v bind_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o you_o shall_v loose_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n erastus_n and_o grotius_n understand_v it_o of_o a_o private_a brother_n or_o the_o party_n offend_v his_o bind_n or_o lose_v of_o the_o offender_n bishop_n bilson_n understand_v it_o of_o a_o civil_a bind_n or_o lose_v by_o the_o magistrate_n who_o he_o conceive_v to_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o church_n vers_fw-la 17._o these_o do_v acknowledge_v a_o coherence_n and_o dependence_n between_o vers_fw-la 17._o and_o 18._o m_o r_o prynne_n differ_v from_o they_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v this_o coherence_n and_o expound_v the_o bind_n and_o lose_v to_o be_v ministerial_a indeed_o but_o only_o doctrinal_a some_o other_o dissent_v from_o all_o these_o do_v refer_v this_o bind_n and_o lose_v not_o to_o a_o person_n but_o to_o a_o thing_n or_o doctrine_n whatsoever_o you_o shall_v bind_v that_o be_v whatsoever_o you_o shall_v declare_v to_o be_v false_a erroneous_a impious_a etc._n etc._n sutlivius_n though_o he_o differ_v much_o from_o we_o in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o vers_fw-la 15_o 16_o 17._o yet_o he_o differ_v as_o much_o if_o not_o more_o from_o the_o erastians_n in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o vers_fw-la 18._o for_o he_o will_v have_v the_o bind_n and_o lose_v to_o be_v ecclesiastical_a and_o spiritual_a not_o civil_a to_o be_v juridical_a not_o doctrinal_a only_o to_o be_v act_n of_o government_n commit_v to_o apostle_n bishop_n and_o pastor_n he_o allow_v no_o share_n to_o roll_a elder_n yet_o he_o allow_v as_o little_a of_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v either_o to_o the_o magistrate_n or_o to_o the_o party_n offend_v see_v he_o de_fw-fr presbyteri●…_n cap._n 9_o &_o 10._o so_o that_o they_o can_v neither_o satisfy_v themselves_o nor_o other_o concern_v the_o meaning_n and_o the_o context_n for_o the_o confutation_n of_o all_o those_o gloss_n and_o for_o the_o vindication_n of_o the_o true_a scope_n and_o sense_n of_o the_o text_n i_o shall_v first_o of_o all_o observe_v whence_o this_o phrase_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v appear_v to_o have_v be_v borrow_v namely_o both_o from_o the_o hebrew_n and_o from_o the_o grecian_n the_o hebrew_n do_v ascribe_v to_o the_o interpreter_n of_o the_o law_n power_n authority_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o bind_v and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o loose_v so_o grotius_n tell_v we_o on_o mat._n 16._o 19_o the_o hebrew_n have_v their_o lose_n of_o a_o excommunicate_v person_n which_o they_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d see_v buxtorf_n lexic_fw-la chald._a talm._n rabbin_z pag._n 1410._o the_o grecian_n also_o have_v a_o bind_n and_o lose_v which_o be_v judicial_a budaeus_fw-la and_o stephanus_n on_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cite_v out_o of_o aeschines_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quum_fw-la primo_fw-la suffragio_fw-la non_fw-la absolutus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la reus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o stone_n by_o which_o the_o senator_n do_v give_v their_o suffrage_n in_o judgement_n it_o be_v either_o a_o black_a stone_n by_o which_o they_o do_v bind_v the_o sinner_n and_o retain_v his_o sin_n and_o that_o stone_n