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A93888 An ansvver to a letter vvritten at Oxford, and superscribed to Dr. Samuel Turner, concerning the Church, and the revenues thereof. Wherein is shewed, how impossible it is for the King with a good conscience to yeeld to the change of church-government by bishops, or to the alienating the lands of the Church. Steward, Richard, 1593?-1651.; J. T.; Turner, Samuel, D.D. 1647 (1647) Wing S5516; Thomason E385_4; ESTC R201455 34,185 56

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