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A90119	A sermon preach't at a publick ordination in a country congregation, on Acts XIII. 2, 3. Together with an exhortation to the minister and people, / by another brother.	Offley, William, 1659 or 60-1724.	1697 (1697)	Wing O159C; ESTC R19633	32,388	32

This Separation must be performed by Church-Officers who are authorized by Christ hereunto Those that the Holy Ghost here gives this Command unto were the Prophets and Teachers of the Church at Antioch v. 1. And here I meet with Adversaries on both hands the Prelatists on the one hand and some Independents and Anabaptists on the other The former plead for and insist upon something more viz. That Ordination must be performed by Officers of a Superior Order or Degree to those in the Text The latter allow of and are content with something less 1. For the first of these It is one of the grand Controversies of our Age between the Presbyterians and Prelatists Whether this Separation or Ordination must be perform'd by Bishops or may be perform'd by Presbyters so as that it should be of no force except a Bishop have a hand in it That it should be done by Scripture-bishops i.e. Presbyters I willingly grant But the Necessity of the Concurrence of a Diocesan Bishop is that which we deny So that the great Question is this Whether it be absolutely necessary to the firm and sufficient Ordination of a Minister that it be perform'd by the Concurrence Consent Assistance and Approbation of a Diocesan Bishop or Whether Ordination perform'd by a company of Presbyters be not Valid Firm and Sufficient tho' there be no Diocesan Bishop among them Some high Church-men hold the former That the Concurrence of a Diocesan Bishop is absolutely necessary and thereby Vnchurch most of the Reformed Churches to gratifie the Church of Rome And hereupon at that notable Revolution upon the Restauration of King Charles II. our Bishops would have all those to be re-ordain'd that were ordaia'd by Presbyters during the absence of the Bishops or else not to be owned for Ministers nor capable of any Ecclesiastical Imployment or Preferment But that Ordination perform'd only by a company of Presbyters without a Diocesan Bishop is firm and sufficient I shall prove by Scripture which is the only Rule we profess to walk by and therefore sufficient for our purpose My Scripture-proof is two-fold by Example and by Argument 1 We have Scripture-Examples of Ordination perform'd by Presbyters alone viz. 1 This of my Text where you may observe both the Work that was done It was Ordination perform'd by Fasting Prayer and Imposition of hands whereby Barnabas and Saul were separated and set a-part for their Ministerial Imployment And if this be not Ordination what is Here is certainly all that is requir'd thereto if we take our measures either from Scripture or all Antiquity bating the Preparatives thereto which are not of this Consideration Tho' some make Ordination less as we shall hear anon yet none make it more Observe also the Persons that did this Work of Ordination who they were that were commanded by the Holy Ghost to ordain Barnabas and Saul why they were the Prophets and Teachers here at Antioch v. 1. i.e. Such as did not only instruct the People and expound the Scriptures but had also the Prophetick Spirit and were partakers of Revelations saith Dr. Lightfoot Harmony of the New Testament p. 93. These then tho' indued with a Spirit of Prophecy as was both usual and necessary in those times were the ordinary Pastors and Teachers of the Church as the Apostle joyns them together Eph. 4.11 which were no other than Presbyters Here then Presbyters do perform this Work of Ordination and that by the particular Direction and Command of the Holy Ghost and therefore they have power to ordain and their Ordination is Valid and Sufficient 2 Another instance is of Timothy who was ordain'd by the Presbytery 1 Tim. 4.14 Neglect not the Gift that is in thee which was given thee by Prophecy with the laying on of the hands of the Presbytery Not of the Office as some would shift it off for the Office has no hands and besides the Office is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but of Persons in that Office What can be more express than this True Paul joyn'd with them 2 Tim. 1.6 as one of the Ordainers which he 'd never have done if they had not had Authority to do what they did 2. I prove it by this Scripture-Argument or Reason because Presbyters are Scripture-Bishops That Scripture-Bishops may ordain I think is question'd by none But Presbyters are Scripture-Bishops This is generally granted both by Pretestants and Papists except a few high Church-men of late that the words Bishop and Presbyter are used promiscuously in Scripture for the same Persons or Persons in the same Office Convenit inter omnes in Apostolorum aetate inter Episcopos Presbyteros nullum discrimen fuisse saith Cassand Consult Art 14. It is agreed among all that in the Apostles times there was no difference between Bishops and Presbyters Apud veteres iidem Episcopi Presbyteri fuerunt saith P. Lombard With the Ancients Bishops and Presbyters were the same I could add more to the same purpose But that you may not take it upon trust but may see with your own Eyes I shall make it plain to you by comparing two or three places of Scripture together Look into Acts 20.17 18. From Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called the Elders or Presbyters of the Church and when they were come to him he said unto them These then are the Persons to whom he speaks the Presbyters Now look into v. 28. and there he tells them That the Holy Ghost has made them Over-seers 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Bishops These Presbyters were Bishops Again Look into Tit. 1.5 I left thee in Crete to ordain Elders Presbyters in every City Then v. 7. For a Bishop must he blameless * Ex hoc loco manifestum eosdem dici suisse Episcopos qui dicebantur erant Presbyteri alias nulla foret in Textu Apostolico connectio quam tamen particula 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 diserte ponit Quae enim 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 haec foret Illi constituendi sunt Fresbyteri qui sunt sine crimine quia Episcopum cujus Officium potestas Jurisdictio gradus differt a Presbyterio oportet esse sine crimine Ger. de Min. Eccles From this place it is manifest that the same Persons were both called and were Bishops who were called and were Presbyters Otherwise there would be no Connection in the Apostles Discourse which yet the causal Particle for expresly asserts For what coherence would this be They are to be made Presbyters who are blameless because a Bishop whose Office Power Jurisdiction and Degree is different from that of a Presbyter ought to be blameless whom he calls Presbyters in one place he calls Bishops in the other Once more 1 Pet. 5 1. The Elders which are among you I exhort v. 2. Feed the Flock of God taking the over-sight of them 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Bishoping it or playing the Bishops Presbyters were made Over-seers

or Bishops by the Holy Ghost in the Acts Treating of the Ordination of Presbyters he lays down the Qualifications of Bishops in Titus the Elders or Presbyters are commanded to exercise the Office of a Bishop in Peter Therefore Presbyters are Scripture-Bishops and consequently may ordain or Ordination performed by them is Firm and Sufficient And here I might content my self with this Proof it being sufficient for us that we have Scripture-warrant for what we do But because Antiquity is so much insisted upon by some in this case as King Charles the First ask'd Archb. Vsher in the Isle of Wight Where he found in Antiquity That Presbyters alone ordain'd any therefore I shall not decline dealing with them at this Weapon but shall joyn Issue with them upon this Point also wherein I shall only produce the Judgment and Testimony of two famous Bishops the most Learned of this Age. The first is a Passage of the renowned Archb. Vsher as it is related by Mr. Baxter both in his Life p. 206. and in his Disput of Church-Government p. 216. The passage is this I ask'd him Archb. Vsher his Judgment about the Validity of Presbyterian Ordination which he asserted and told me That the King ask'd him at the Isle of Wight Where ever he found in Antiquity that Presbyters alone ordain'd any And that he answered I can shew your Majesty more even where Presbyters alone successively ordain'd Bishops and instanc'd in Jerom's words Epist ad Evagr. of the Presbyters of Alexandria choosing and making their own Bishops from the days of Mark till Heraclas and Dionysius The other is of Bishop Stillingfleet who proves by several Instances that Presbyters had the intrinsick power of Ordination but only that it was restrain'd by Ecclesiastical Laws and that after Episcopal Government was setled yet Ordination by Presbyters was lookt on as valid Iren. p. 379 c. and then in another place p. 273. he quotes that very passage of Jerom which A. Bish Vsher had done Nam Alexandria a Marco Evangelista usque ad Heraclam Dionysium Episcopos Presbyteri semper unum ex se electum in excelsiori gradu collocatum Episcopum nominabant quomodo si exercitus Imperatorem faciat aut Diaconi eligant de se quem industrium noverint Archidiaconum vocent Ep. 85. ad Evagr. At Alexandria from Mark the Evangelist to Heraclas and Dionysius Bishops the Presbyters having chosen one of themselves and set him in a higher station called him a Bishop as if an Army should chuse an Emperor or a Company of Deacons should chuse one of themselves whom they know to be very diligent and should call him Archdeacon Which Testimony he vindicates from several exceptions that were made against it This then may justifie our practise this day against all Gainsayers that we who are Presbyters and have no Diocesan Bishop among us yet undertake to perform this work of Ordination since as you have seen we have good ground and warrant for it both from Scripture and from Antiquity To which might be added the Consent of all Reformed Churches but that I must hasten Hence also we may see the intolerable Usurpation of those who would not allow the Ordination by Presbyters even in those times when either there were no Bishops or they durst not be known to be lawful and sufficient But do but observe the partiality of these Men They that would not allow Ordination by Presbyters in England or any other Reform'd Church to be valid yet would allow Ordination in the Church of Rome though their Bishops be so far from being the true Ministers of Christ that they are the Slaves and Limbs of Antichrist though their Ordination be attended with so many Fopperies and Superstitious Ceremonies and though the persons be never so unfit yet because one that has the Title of a Bishop has a hand in it therefore that must be valid forsooth and all others invalid and null Let a Person Ordain'd by Presbyters be never so well qualify'd never so faithful in the discharge of his Office let another Person Ordain'd by a Bishop be never so defective in qualifications let him be never so prophane in his Life yet this Man must pass for a true Minister because he has the ineffectual Blessing of a Bishop and the other a meer Usurper and all his Administrations must be null and void for want of this Ceremony Owen of Ordination p. 86. This plainly shows what Friends such are to the Reformation how highly they value the Church of Rome and what dirt they cast in the face and upon the practice of all Reform'd Churches Thus I have I hope pretty well acquitted my self from these Adversaries But there are some others though not so considerable that I must speak a word unto who instead of this Ordination by Church-Officers set up two things in its Room Gifts and a Call from the People I shall speak briefly to both 1. Gifts and Abilities are not sufficient to give a Man a Title to the Office of the Ministry 't is so in no case whatsoever There 's no instance in the World that I can think of from the King on the Throne to a petty Constable or Surveyor of the High-ways or any other thing whatsoever that hath the Nature of an Office in the Commonwealth that a bare qualification and ability for it doth inable a Man to take upon him the discharge of it Much less then should it be so in the Church where all things should be most regular and orderly 1 Cor. 14.40 and where the least miscarriage is dangerous Levit. 10.1 1 Cor. 11.30 Hence even Christ himself tho' fill'd with Wisdom when but a Child Luke 2.40 in whom were hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge Col. 2.3 yet did not thrust himself into the Office of a Priest till called as Aaron as the Apostle observes Heb. 5.5 Now Aaron had not only a particular designation and appointment by God to this Office but was actually put into it and setled in it by Moses Levit. 8. and 9. So Christ was not only call'd by an immediate voice from God the Father Matth. 3.17 but was Anointed as it were by John the Baptist in his Baptism and thereby Invested and Installed into this Office Wheupon the Apostle lays down this General Rue Heb. 5.4 No man takes viz. legally and duly 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 any honour or office whatsoever his parts and abilities be but he that is called of God And thus much is generally granted by all except a few self-conceited persons that think better of themselves than any body else doth and so turn Self-ordainers They can scarce be said to be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 because they have generally little or no Learning but however they are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they lay hands I don't say violent hands upon themselves and so become guilty of a sort of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 tho' not in the worst sense of