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sometime_o flee_v but_o to_o persecute_v be_v the_o invention_n and_o argument_n of_o the_o devil_n which_o he_o seek_v against_o all_o and_o after_o he_o say_v in_o so_o far_o as_o the_o arrian_n banish_v those_o that_o will_v not_o subscribe_v their_o decree_n they_o show_v that_o they_o be_v contrary_a to_o christian_n and_o friend_n of_o the_o devil_n but_o now_o o_o lamentable_a aux_fw-fr hil._n contra_fw-la aux_fw-fr say_v hilarius_n it_o be_v the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o earth_n that_o recommend_v the_o religion_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n be_v find_v naked_a of_o his_o virtue_n while_o ambition_n must_v give_v credit_n to_o his_o name_n the_o church_n reprove_v and_o fight_v by_o banishment_n and_o prison_n and_o force_v herself_o to_o be_v believe_v which_o once_o be_v believe_v because_o of_o the_o imprisonment_n and_o banishment_n herself_o suffer_v she_o that_o once_o be_v consecrate_v by_o the_o terror_n of_o her_o persecutor_n depend_v now_o upon_o the_o dignity_n of_o 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not_o communicate_v with_o those_o bishop_n that_o require_v that_o heretic_n shall_v be_v put_v to_o death_n the_o emperor_n marcio_n who_o assemble_v the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n gen_fw-la marc._n ep._n ad_fw-la archimand_n etc._n etc._n mon._n eg._n in_o acta_fw-la council_n chalced._n tom_n 2._o conc_fw-fr gen_fw-la protest_v that_o he_o will_v not_o force_v nor_o constrain_v any_o one_o to_o subscribe_v the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n against_o his_o will._n 1._o will._n hosi_fw-la epist_n ad_fw-la constit._fw-la apud_fw-la ath._n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la solit_fw-la vit_fw-mi tom_fw-mi 1._o hosius_n bishop_n of_o corduba_n testify_v that_o the_o emperor_n constans_n will_v not_o constrain_v any_o to_o be_v orthodox_n const._n orthodox_n hil._n l._n 1._o ad_fw-la const._n hilarius_n say_v further_a that_o god_n teach_v rather_o than_o exact_v the_o knowledge_n of_o himself_o and_o authorise_v his_o commandment_n by_o the_o miracle_n of_o his_o heavenly_a work_n he_o will_v not_o that_o any_o shall_v confess_v he_o with_o a_o force_a will_n etc._n etc._n he_o be_v the_o god_n of_o the_o whole_a universe_n he_o need_v not_o a_o force_a obedience_n nor_o require_v a_o constrain_a confession_n 7._o confession_n ambr._n comm_n in_o luc._n l._n 7._o christ_n say_v ambrose_n send_v his_o apostle_n to_o sow_v faith_n not_o to_o constrain_v but_o to_o teach_v not_o to_o exercise_v coercive_a power_n but_o to_o extol_v the_o doctrine_n of_o humility_n 62._o humility_n cypr._n epist_n 62._o hence_o cyprian_n compare_v the_o old_a covenant_n with_o the_o new_a say_v then_o be_v they_o put_v to_o death_n with_o the_o outward_a sword_n but_o now_o the_o proud_a and_o contumacious_a be_v cut_v off_o with_o the_o spiritual_a sword_n by_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o this_o answer_n very_o well_o that_o objection_n before_o observe_v take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o jew_n under_o the_o law_n see_v say_v tertullian_n to_o the_o heathen_n if_o it_o be_v not_o to_o contribute_v to_o the_o renown_n of_o irreligion_n to_o seek_v to_o take_v away_o the_o liberty_n of_o religion_n 24._o tertull._n apol._n c._n 24._o and_o to_o hinder_v man_n their_o choice_n of_o god_n that_o i_o may_v not_o be_v admit_v to_o adore_v who_o i_o will_v but_o must_v be_v constrain_v to_o serve_v he_o who_o i_o will_v not_o there_o be_v none_o nay_o not_o a_o man_n that_o desire_v to_o be_v adore_v by_o any_o against_o their_o will._n 28._o id._n apol._n cap._n 28._o and_o again_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n that_o easy_o appear_v to_o be_v unjust_a to_o constrain_v and_o force_v man_n to_o sacrifice_v against_o their_o will_n see_v to_o do_v the_o service_n of_o god_n there_o be_v require_v a_o willing_a heart_n and_o again_o it_o be_v a_o human_a right_n and_o natural_a power_n that_o every_o one_o worship_v what_o he_o esteem_v 2._o idem_fw-la ad_fw-la scapul_n c._n 2._o and_o one_o man_n religion_n do_v not_o profit_v nor_o hurt_v another_o neither_o be_v it_o 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turn_v they_o in_o and_o out_o at_o his_o pleasure_n now_o if_o protestant_n do_v just_o abhor_v these_o thing_n among_o papist_n be_v it_o not_o sad_a that_o they_o shall_v do_v the_o like_o themselves_o a_o thing_n that_o at_o their_o first_o appearance_n babylon_n luth._o lib._n de_fw-la captivitate_fw-la babylon_n when_o they_o be_v in_o their_o primitive_a innocency_n they_o do_v not_o think_v on_o as_o appear_v by_o that_o say_v of_o luther_n neither_o pope_n nor_o bishop_n nor_o any_o other_o man_n have_v power_n to_o oblige_v a_o christian_a to_o one_o syllable_n except_o it_o be_v by_o his_o own_o consent_n and_o again_o i_o call_v bold_o to_o christian_n that_o neither_o man_n nor_o angel_n can_v impose_v any_o law_n upon_o they_o but_o so_o far_o as_o they_o will_v for_o we_o be_v free_a of_o all_o and_o when_o he_o appear_v at_o the_o diet_n of_o spiers_n before_o the_o emperor_n in_o a_o particular_a conference_n he_o have_v before_o the_o archbishop_n of_o trier_n and_o 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to_o the_o heart_n so_o that_o he_o need_v to_o be_v comfort_v when_o he_o be_v inform_v that_o carolostadius_fw-la in_o his_o letter_n to_o his_o congregation_n style_v himself_o a_o man_n banish_v for_o conscience_n by_o the_o procurement_n of_o martin_n luther_n and_o since_o both_o the_o lutheran_n and_o calvinist_n not_o admit_v one_o another_o to_o worship_n in_o those_o respective_a dominion_n show_v how_o little_a better_o they_o be_v than_o either_o papist_n or_o arrian_n in_o this_o particular_a and_o yet_o calvin_n say_v that_o the_o conscience_n be_v free_a from_o the_o power_n of_o all_o men._n if_o so_o why_o then_o do_v he_o cause_n castellio_n to_o be_v banish_v because_o he_o can_v not_o for_o conscience-sake_n believe_v as_o he_o do_v 14._o calvin_n inst._n c._n 19_o sect_n 14._o that_o god_n have_v ordain_v man_n to_o be_v damn_v and_o servetus_n to_o be_v
be_v administer_v upon_o all_o without_o respect_n of_o person_n who_o will_v but_o open_v their_o eye_n may_v see_v here_o the_o man_n so_o desperate_o resolve_v to_o calumniate_v that_o he_o neither_o seem_v to_o regard_v his_o conscience_n towards_o god_n nor_o his_o reputation_n among_o man_n that_o he_o may_v fulfil_v his_o envy_n in_o this_o particular_a but_o such_o gross_a abuse_n will_v not_o hurt_v but_o help_v the_o quaker_n yea_o in_o the_o very_a next_o page_n he_o take_v notice_n that_o i_o grant_v to_o the_o magistrate_n only_a liberty_n to_o judge_v in_o matter_n touch_v the_o life_n and_o good_n of_o other_o etc._n etc._n so_o here_o be_v some_o lawful_a power_n as_o for_o the_o malicious_a insinuation_n that_o follow_v it_o need_v no_o other_o refutation_n with_o man_n of_o sobriety_n but_o to_o repeat_v it_o to_o wit_n but_o probable_o not_o of_o quaker_n for_o they_o be_v perfect_a and_o so_o can_v do_v wrong_a be_v not_o this_o solid_o and_o learned_o and_o 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