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A27034	A second sheet for the ministry iustifying our calling against Quakers, seekers, and papists and all that deny us to be the ministers of Christ by Richard Baxter.	Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691.	1657 (1657)	Wing B1404; ESTC R17263	18,288	16

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