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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
power_n	bishop_n	call_v	presbyter_n	3,415	5	10.3134	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A06199	Cum bono Deo Raine from the clouds, vpon a choicke angel: or, A returned answere, to that common quæritur of our adversaries, VVhere was your church before Luther? Digested into several meditations, according to the difference of points. Extorted off the author, for stilling the vncessant, and no lesse clamorous coassation of some patmicke frogges, against the lawfulness of our calling.	Logie, Andrew.	1624 (1624)	STC 16694; ESTC S108810	39,602	80

consignabant or consecrabant Presbyteri for the one vseth the word Consignandi as the other Consecrandi Nay seeing it cannot bee denyed actum ordinandi rem ipsam scilicet 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is the greater part mansisse penes Presbyteros what letteth why that which is but the lesser part the signe or the bare and naked Rite may not remaine common to Presbyters with Bishops so called antitheticallie for cui competit quod majus est eidem adscribi nil vetat quod minus est modo sint ejusdem generis but the gendre is still kept c. It standeth vs vpon yet a little to eye more nearlie into this matter because of our Adversaries Sainct CHRYSOSTOME posing the quaestion cur Apost ad Philip. transeat ab Episcopat●● ad Diaconatum nullo relicto loco intermedio 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Presbyterorum thus answereth the matter Quod 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that the order is but one and the same and straight subjoyneth quòd eadem conveniant Presbyteris quae Episcopis 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 sayech hee to the one which to the other nay which is yet farther hee speaketh more peremptorilie to the matter and sayth positiuelie that the Bishops heerein wrong the Presbyters That they appropriate this singularlie to themselues 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I know this place to bee wrested to the contrarie to the establishment of this their praerogatiue as if the same were the force of the word heere in composition which it carrieth whilst resolved in its pure simples whereas 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 cum Chrysostomo beareth this other signification which is quite contrarie And lest this might seeme but an ydle Grammatication not having anie foundation in the trueth I pray you obserue with mee the vse of this word in sacred Scripture as I. Thess Chap. 4. Vers 6. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ne quis opprimat aut circumveniat fratrem suum in negotio c. I forbeare heere to meddle with that idle difference so hotlie and contentiouslie tossed and agitated amongst vs to day Whether a Bishop bee greater than a Presbyter Institutione Dominica or dispositione Ecclesiastica whereas it were farre safer privatas has simultates deponere quò melius reipub Christianae in communi possemus consulere yea and where frustra contentiosum funem ducimus as who may agree in the matter without great prejudice to the trueth scilicet that the order is but one and the same admitting alwayes a disparitie or difference of degree 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and this not absolute or simple but relatiue or respectiue ad 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 according to the different measure of graces and gifts in the LORDS worke-men and sutablie to CHRISTS institution who gaue some to bee Apostles and some Evangelists and so foorth Nay according to that seeming at least subinsinuated and implyed difference or disparitie amongst the Apostles where some are called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 besides some other names to this same purpose importing at least bewraying a distinction But to the matter againe vnde digressi you see howe Sainct HIEROME prooveth this power of Ordination to bee common to Presbyters with Bishops by an argument taken from the more to the lesse Quod qui possunt corpus CHRISTI conficere possint Presbyterum creare except forsooth it bee more to consigne a Presbyter than to create our owne Creator To this same sense and purpose I would pose our Adversaries heere a little possuntne Presbyteri so called antitheticallie or in opposition Christianum efficere or baptizare I take these for one ex bypothesi ad bominem for our Adversaries holde and maintaine quod per Baptismum character indelebilis imprimatur That by Baptisme an indelible character is imprinted Now there is none who can deny but that this latter may bee adscrybed to anie Gregarie Presbyter Ergo the first may bee saide to bee no lesse competent vnto him As to those places of the Apostle where this seemeth singularlie to bee adscrybed vnto one they are to bee taken communiter or in common to bee vnderstood for non statim de caeteris negatur quod de uno praedicatur yea heerefore what the Apostle seemed singularlie to haue taken and acclaymed vnto himselfe in the one place 2. Timoth. Chap. 1. Vers 6 hee showeth plainlie ao haue bene common to the whole Eldership 1. Timoth. Chap. 4. Vers 14. I feare to wade anie farther in this point for non nise caute incedendum per ignes suppositos cineri doloso adeoque offendicula vel in ipsis picturis nudis tollenda And yet I neede not feare much the incurring heere the offence of anie ut qui Episcoporum axioma ne vel minimum hîc eam imminutum so farre foorth as I can trace anie light going before mee for warrand and appuy to my conscience for as to that Primacie of order without power whether absolute or by delegation which may suffer vpon abuse repetition by the partie delegating I cannot so much as by dreame conceiue thereof for albeit all bee called to one and the same Ministrie it followeth not straight quod simil quisque vocetur ad parem in ministerio gradum more than in the Colledge of Iustice all are of alyke power and dignitie in place nor yet of that Orbiculare praesidence falselie fathered vpon Sainct AMBROSE vpon a wyde misinterpretation and mistaking of his mynde cum varii sint modi recedendi as also that so I could not see howe the first Presbyter could bee called by the name of Bishop singularlie whereas in a circle there is nothing first or last nisi recurras ad puncta imaginaria But how-so-ever the matter goe this must bee given to the praesent necessitie because of our Adversaries excepting heere against the lawfulnesse of that by-gone Ministrie with vs these diverse yeares heere-to-fore quod nostri destituti fuerint 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Episcopali You see that this cannot evacuate or but the least enervate our Calling both these beeing but one the word beeing taken ex usu Scripturae where wee see the one subjoyned to the other exegeticallie as Acts Chap. 20. Vers 28. The Elders of the Church of EPHESUS accersed or sent for to MILETVM are exhorted to take heede to themselues and to their Flockes over the which the holie Ghost praefecit cos Episcopos had made them Over-seers As lykewyse wee see th'Apostle to passe straight frō the Name to the Office which would argue a communion in the one as in the other nay wee see the Apostle to require the same thing in a Presbyter which in a Bishop which subinferreth a necessarie competencie of the same in common to both As last wee see the Apostle Sainct PETER himselfe synpresbyterum sese indigetare But besides this that both these are but one and the same the wordes beeing taken exusu Scripturae true is it not that all our first men were devoyde of this sorte of