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king_n but_o only_o that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o good_a reason_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v depose_v king_n in_o any_o case_n whatsoever_o because_o a_o mere_a spiritual_a power_n can_v in_o no_o case_n possible_a extend_v itself_o to_o temporall_n 105._o another_o reason_n very_o common_a among_o those_o who_o defend_v the_o oath_n and_o deny_v the_o pope_n depose_v power_n be_v because_o neither_o the_o unlawfulness_n of_o the_o oath_n nor_o the_o pope_n power_n to_o depose_v king_n be_v any_o article_n of_o divine_a faith_n whence_o they_o infer_v that_o one_o may_v lawful_o take_v the_o oath_n and_o by_o consequence_n swear_v positive_o that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o such_o power_n now_o let_v any_o one_o judge_n whether_o this_o consequence_n be_v not_o manifest_o null_a such_o a_o thing_n be_v no_o article_n of_o faith_n therefore_o we_o may_v lawful_o swear_v the_o contrary_n it_o be_v no_o article_n of_o divine_a faith_n that_o his_o majesty_n be_v king_n of_o 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of_o canterbury_n who_o protestant_n acknowledge_v here_o in_o england_n as_o their_o primate_n to_o have_v quit_v protestancy_n his_o inheritance_n shall_v pass_v to_o the_o next_o heir_n now_o if_o the_o archbishop_n shall_v declare_v in_o this_o case_n that_o such_o a_o one_o who_o possess_v that_o estate_n have_v quit_v the_o protestant_a religion_n he_o will_v deprive_v he_o or_o rather_o declare_v he_o deprive_v of_o his_o estate_n though_o the_o archbishop_n have_v no_o authority_n in_o rigour_n to_o deprive_v any_o man_n of_o his_o estate_n and_o in_o this_o case_n such_o a_o man_n will_v be_v deprive_v of_o his_o estate_n rather_o by_o force_n of_o the_o entailment_n then_o of_o the_o archbishops_n declaration_n 108._o final_o protestant_n do_v common_o confess_v to_o return_v to_o the_o main_a point_n that_o the_o point_n wherein_o they_o differ_v from_o we_o as_o no_o purgatory_n no_o transubstantiation_n no_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o such_o like_a negative_n be_v no_o article_n of_o faith_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v far_o from_o positive_o swear_v the_o contrary_a whence_o i_o conclude_v that_o the_o forementioned_a reason_n of_o these_o author_n be_v manifest_o false_a for_o it_o run_v thus_o whensoever_o any_o thing_n be_v no_o article_n of_o faith_n the_o contrary_n may_v positive_o be_v swear_v but_o the_o pope_n power_n to_o depose_v king_n be_v no_o article_n of_o faith_n therefore_o we_o may_v positive_o swear_v that_o he_o have_v no_o such_o power_n the_o major_a proposition_n be_v manifest_o false_a as_o have_v be_v show_v 109._o another_o main_a argument_n which_o the_o defender_n of_o the_o oath_n make_v a_o great_a account_n of_o in_o order_n to_o deny_v the_o pope_n depose_v power_n be_v that_o our_o saviour_n do_v not_o come_v into_o the_o world_n to_o deprive_v other_o man_n of_o their_o temporal_a dominion_n 18._o regnum_fw-la meum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr hoc_fw-la mundo_fw-la and_o much_o less_o to_o deprive_v king_n 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