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A reply to M. Nicholas Smith, his discussion, of some pointes of M. Doctour Kellison his treatise of the hierarchie. By a divine
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Divine.; Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; Kellison, Matthew.
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see_v above_o and_o shall_v see_v more_o in_o the_o next_o question_n and_o therefore_o as_o m._n doctor_n do_v not_o determine_v this_o question_n whether_o the_o apostle_n be_v religious_a or_o no_o so_o neither_o will_v i_o but_o if_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o they_o be_v religious_a as_o diverse_a author_n hold_v it_o so_o it_o shall_v remain_v for_o i_o who_o do_v not_o desire_v to_o detract_v from_o the_o religious_a any_o honour_n which_o probable_o they_o may_v claim_v yet_o i_o will_v relate_v what_o some_o author_n say_v in_o this_o matter_n that_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v that_o though_o it_o may_v be_v probable_a yet_o it_o be_v not_o so_o certain_a as_o m._n nicholas_n think_v that_o they_o be_v religious_a man_n 73._o 887._o 1._o p._n de_fw-fr redditibus_fw-la eccl_n c._n 1._o &_o 1._o p._n defence_n pag._n 887._o franciscus_n sarmiento_n a_o learned_a bishop_n confess_v that_o the_o apostle_n while_o they_o be_v disciple_n observe_v poverty_n either_o by_o commandment_n of_o christ_n for_o that_o time_n or_o out_o of_o their_o free_a will_n and_o devotion_n for_o that_o than_o thy_o be_v in_o state_n of_o proficient_o and_o scholar_n and_o therefore_o christ_n for_o that_o time_n say_v unto_o they_o nolite_fw-la possidere_fw-la aurum_fw-la neque_fw-la argentum_fw-la neque_fw-la pecuniam_fw-la in_o zonis_fw-la vestris_fw-la do_v not_o possess_v gold_n nor_o silver_n nor_o money_n in_o your_o purse_n 10._o mat_n 10._o but_o say_v he_o this_o be_v but_o counsel_n or_o a_o temporal_a precept_n for_o that_o tyme._n and_o for_o that_o time_n s._n peter_n say_v ecce_fw-la nos_fw-la reliquimus_fw-la omne_fw-la &_o secuti_fw-la sumus_fw-la te_fw-la behold_v weehave_v leave_v all_o thing_n and_o have_v fol._n low_v thou_o 19_o matt._n 19_o but_o say_v he_o after_o they_o have_v receive_v power_n to_o absolve_v from_o sin_n and_o to_o bind_v and_o loose_v 20._o matt._n 18._o joan_n 20._o and_o have_v care_n &_o charge_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v become_v to_o be_v master_n and_o in_o the_o state_n of_o the_o perfecter_n of_o other_o than_o poverty_n say_v he_o be_v not_o require_v at_o their_o hand_n yea_o it_o be_v convenient_a that_o they_o shall_v have_v good_n thereby_o to_o help_v the_o poor_a and_o to_o give_v example_n of_o charity_n and_o therefore_o say_v he_o pag._n 216._o christ_n who_o exact_v poverty_n of_o the_o young_a man_n mat._n 19_o exact_v only_o of_o s._n peter_n when_o he_o make_v he_o pastor_n charity_n joan._n 21._o and_o although_o they_o be_v not_o at_o first_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n yet_o because_o they_o be_v short_o to_o be_v it_o be_v not_o requisite_a say_v the_o same_o bishop_n that_o while_o they_o be_v disciple_n they_o shall_v vow_v poverty_n and_o then_o conclude_v thus_o sub_fw-la correctione_n matris_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la existimo_fw-la nullum_fw-la votum_fw-la expressè_fw-la apostolos_fw-la emisisse_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la legitur_fw-la in_o scriptura_fw-la sacrae_fw-la secutos_fw-la tamen_fw-la consilia_fw-la euangelica_fw-la quia_fw-la perfectissimi_fw-la erant_fw-la etc._n etc._n 887._o saron_n 1._o p._n defensionü_fw-la pag._n 887._o under_o correction_n of_o our_o mother_n the_o church_n i_o think_v that_o the_o apostle_n make_v no_o vow_n expresselie_o because_o it_o be_v not_o read_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n yet_o that_o they_o follow_v the_o euangelical_n counsel_n because_o they_o be_v most_o perfect_a etc._n etc._n and_o so_o according_a to_o the_o opinion_n of_o this_o learned_a bishop_n the_o apostle_n be_v not_o religious_a because_o they_o make_v no_o vow_n 74._o 2._o in_o opusc_n §_o 1._o dnb._fw-la 2._o vasquez_n say_v that_o by_o the_o fact_n of_o the_o apostle_n nothing_o certain_a in_o this_o matter_n can_v be_v prove_v but_o only_o that_o it_o be_v not_o needful_a as_o we_o have_v prove_v that_o they_o shall_v follow_v poverty_n by_o vow_n but_o by_o counsel_n they_o follow_v it_o while_o they_o be_v under_o the_o teach_n of_o christ_n but_o although_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o certatne_v yet_o say_v he_o without_o yield_v any_o reason_n the_o opinion_n of_o s._n thomas_n who_o say_v that_o they_o vow_v the_o thing_n that_o pertain_v to_o perfection_n be_v more_o probable_a but_o yet_o that_o as_o certain_a say_v he_o may_v hence_o be_v gather_v that_o at_o least_o the_o state_n of_o bishop_n require_v not_o necessary_o poverue_v 2._o 2._o cor._n 11.2.2_o q._n 185._o art_n 6._o ad_fw-la 2._o yea_o sometimes_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o condition_n of_o the_o time_n it_o be_v more_o commodious_a that_o they_o shall_v have_v good_n as_o say_v he_o s._n aussme_n s_o ambrose_n yea_o &_o s._n paul_n as_o s._n thomas_n confess_v have_v thus_o far_o vasquez_n so_o that_o in_o his_o opinion_n also_o it_o be_v not_o so_o certain_a as_o m._n nicholas_n make_v it_o that_o they_o vow_v poverty_n and_o the_o thing_n that_o pertain_v to_o perfection_n and_o consequent_o in_o his_o opinion_n it_o be_v not_o certain_a that_o they_o be_v religious_a because_o vow_n be_v necessary_a to_o make_v one_o religious_a 5._o vasqis_fw-la to_o 2._o in_o 1.2_o disput_fw-la 164._o c._n 5._o yet_o the_o same_o author_n i_o confess_v in_o another_o place_n think_v that_o the_o apostle_n vow_v the_o counsel_n 75._o and_o although_o many_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o church_n present_o after_o the_o descension_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n lâ—uâ—d_v in_o common_a ioca_fw-la acto_fw-la 2._o &_o 4._o in_o illa_fw-la ioca_fw-la yet_o as_o estius_n &_o bartholomaeus_n petrus_n lintrensis_n affirm_v it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o say_v that_o all_o of_o â—hâ—left_v the_o propriety_n of_o all_o they_o have_v it_o be_v only_o a_o counsel_n and_o some_o of_o these_o christias_n say_v these_o two_o author_n have_v wâ—uâ—s_n and_o child_n and_o so_o can_v not_o leave_v all_o but_o do_v only_o contribute_v to_o the_o community_n &_o so_o say_v they_o all_o be_v common_a among_o they_o all_o as_o all_o thing_n be_v common_a among_o friend_n in_o regard_n of_o use_n but_o not_o among_o all_o in_o respect_n of_o propriety_n or_o dominion_n so_o that_o all_o at_o least_o of_o the_o first_o christian_n who_o be_v say_v to_o have_v live_v in_o common_a be_v not_o religious_a in_o the_o opinion_n of_o these_o two_o learned_a doctor_n 76._o baronius_n in_o his_o aâ—ales_n say_v 34._o baron_fw-fr to_o 1._o a_o christi_fw-la 34._o that_o this_o community_n of_o good_n among_o the_o first_o christian_n be_v not_o such_o as_o that_o every_o one_o that_o will_v be_v christian_n can_v not_o be_v admit_v unless_o be_v first_o sell_v all_o or_o that_o be_v make_v christian_a be_v be_v compel_v to_o this_o as_o if_o to_o all_o christian_n that_o rule_v of_o life_n be_v prescribe_v for_o of_o paul_n it_o be_v know_v that_o he_o warn_v the_o corimthians_n by_o his_o epistle_n that_o so_o they_o shall_v give_v alm_n to_o the_o needy_a that_o their_o give_v shall_v not_o be_v prodigal_a lest_o say_v be_v that_o which_o to_o other_o be_v a_o ease_n shall_v be_v to_o you_o a_o tribulation_n but_o by_o a_o equality_n let_v in_o this_o present_a time_n your_o abundance_n supply_v their_o want_n 8._o 2._o cor._n 8._o but_o say_v baronius_n at_o the_o first_o by_o a_o private_a motion_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n these_o thing_n be_v do_v for_o many_o cause_n as_o to_o set_v a_o example_n to_o posterity_n of_o a_o strict_a life_n and_o therefore_o say_v baronitus_n s._n austin_n &_o s._n basile_n from_o this_o example_n take_v the_o form_n of_o their_o religious_a life_n and_o this_o say_v he_o also_o at_o that_o time_n when_o persecution_n be_v imminent_a and_o be_v presen_fw-mi the_o to_o follow_v be_v convenient_a lest_o their_o good_n may_v afterward_o be_v a_o hindrance_n unto_o they_o &_o cause_n of_o fall_v in_o persecution_n 77._o 4._o azer_n to_o 1._o li._n 11._o mor._n instit._fw-la c._n 23._o act._n 2._o &_o 4._o azorius_fw-la relate_v the_o manner_n of_o life_n of_o the_o first_o christian_n of_o which_o 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