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king_n by_o all_o right_a the_o late_a no_o way_n pertain_v to_o the_o pope_n etc._n etc._n ay_o when_o i_o first_o read_v these_o word_n in_o the_o chaplain_n book_n do_v think_v that_o he_o have_v take_v these_o two_o towit_n primacy_n spiritual_a and_o belong_v to_o spiritual_a as_o also_o these_o other_o primacy_n temporal_a and_o belong_v to_o temporal_a for_o one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n but_o now_o it_o seem_v that_o the_o defender_n and_o interpreter_n of_o the_o chaplain_n to_o wit_n m._n tompson_n and_o m._n burhill_n do_v take_v it_o otherwise_o for_o so_o write_v m._n burhill_n pag._n 55._o of_o his_o book_n concern_v this_o point_n non_fw-fr dicit_fw-la primatum_fw-la spirituatem_fw-la sed_fw-la primatum_fw-la quoad_fw-la spiritualia_fw-la deberi_fw-la regibus_fw-la omni_fw-la ture_n he_o the_o chaplame_n do_v not_o say_v that_o spiritual_a primacy_n but_o primacu_fw-la belong_v to_o spiritual_a be_v due_a unto_o king_n by_o all_o right_a etc._n etc._n and_o 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ac_fw-la clamitare_fw-la audaciam_fw-la tuam_fw-la illud_fw-la videtur_fw-la cùm_fw-la regem_fw-la caput_fw-la ecelesiae_fw-la primatemque_fw-la confingas_fw-la omniumque_fw-la causarum_fw-la &_o controversiarum_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la sidem_fw-la &_o religionem_fw-la pertinent_a iudicem_fw-la tribuas_fw-la it_o may_v seem_v to_o savour_n of_o malice_n &_o cry_v out_o upon_o your_o sauciness_n when_o as_o you_o fain_o the_o king_n to_o be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n &_o judge_n of_o all_o cause_n and_o controversy_n which_o pertain_v unto_o faith_n and_o religion_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o pag._n 50._o rexin_n svo_fw-la regno_fw-la omnibus_fw-la superior_a sit_fw-la nullisubditus_fw-la fidei_fw-la iudex_fw-la no_n appelletur_fw-la quidem_fw-la although_o the_o king_n in_o his_o own_o kingdom_n be_v above_o all_o &_o subject_n to_o none_o yet_o he_o may_v not_o be_v call_v in_o any_o case_n the_o jadge_n of_o our_o faith_n etc._n etc._n and_o pag._n 313._o reges_fw-la christiani_n non_fw-la sunt_fw-la fidei_fw-la ac_fw-la religionis_fw-la judices_fw-la christian_n king_n be_v not_o judge_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n 3._o so_o as_o if_o now_o in_o england_n there_o shall_v chance_v to_o arise_v a_o dissension_n or_o debate_n concern_v any_o point_n of_o faith_n or_o religion_n as_o for_o example_n concern_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n what_o shall_v your_o academic_n here_o do_v to_o who_o shall_v your_o citizen_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o subject_n have_v recourse_n shall_v they_o go_v unto_o the_o king_n as_o judge_v in_o this_o point_n and_o ask_v his_o sentence_n &_o determination_n master_n tooker_n you_o see_v will_v not_o go_v to_o the_o king_n what_o shall_v they_o go_v to_o some_o other_o judge_n then_o but_o master_n salclebridge_n he_o will_v admit_v no_o other_o what_o then_o be_v best_a to_o be_v do_v in_o this_o case_n true_o even_o that_o which_o hitherto_o have_v be_v do_v in_o the_o debate_n of_o the_o 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4._o c._n 5._o if_o the_o pope_n shall_v command_v vice_n and_o forbid_v virtue_n the_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o believe_v that_o virtue_n be_v evil_a and_o vice_n be_v good_a and_o they_o give_v this_o reason_n thereof_o 1._o thereof_o panor_n de_fw-fr constit_fw-la c._n 1._o the_o fullness_n of_o the_o pope_n power_n excel_v all_o positive_a law_n ibidem_fw-la law_n de_fw-fr transl_fw-fr epis_fw-la quanto_fw-la glossa_fw-la hostiensis_n ibidem_fw-la and_o it_o suffice_v that_o the_o pope_n will_v go_v for_o a_o law_n whereby_o he_o can_v make_v righteousness_n of_o unrighteousness_n and_o hereupon_o philelphus_n decad._n 6._o hecast_n 9_o beautiful_o describe_v the_o pope_n as_o antichrist_n say_v non_fw-la scytha_n non_fw-la turcus_n non_fw-la quiterrore_fw-la damascum_fw-la aegyptumue_n tenet_n sed_fw-la maximus_fw-la ille_fw-la sacerdos_n e_z medio_fw-la templi_fw-la nostrum_fw-la emersurus_fw-la in_o axem_fw-la antichristus_fw-la erit_fw-la quise_z canit_fw-la ore_fw-la 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