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A77397	Anabaptism, the true fountaine of Independency, Brownisme, [double brace] Antinomy, Familisme, and the most of the other errours, which for the time doe trouble the Church of England, unsealed. Also the questions of pædobaptisme and dipping handled from Scripture. In a second part of the Disswasive from the errors of the time. / By Robert Baillie minister at Glasgow.	Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662.; Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662. Dissuasive from the errours of the time.	1647 (1647)	Wing B452A; Thomason E369_9; ESTC R38567	187,930	235

either member or officer but the whole and every particular member of each Church how excellent great or learned soever ought to be subject to this censure Also Saltmarsh Smoke in the Temple p. 14. The Anabaptists hold that the Church though but of two or three yet may enjoy the word and ordinances by way of an administrator or one deputed to administer though no Pastor that these commonly called Church Officers as Pastors c. are such as the Church or body may be without DD Confession Artic. 45. Such to whom God hath given gifts being tried in the Church may and ought by the appointment of the Congregation to Prophecy according to the proportion of faith and so teach publickly the word of God for the edification exhortation and comfort of the Church EE Kiffins answer to Ricraft Among the causes of their separation he sets down this as one The quenching of the Spirit and despising prophecy that no man may speak in our publick exercises but one FF Confession Artic. 41. The persons designed by Christ to dispense this ordinance the Scriptures hold forth to be a Preaching Disciple it being no where tied to a particular Church officer or person extraordinarily sent the commission enjoyning the administration being given to them under no other consideration but as Disciples Also the Treatise of Baptisme p. 407. It cannot reasonably be objected that he that baptizeth should necessarily be himself a baptized person though ordinarily it will be so yet it is not necessary to the Ordinance no more then it is simply necessary to a Church State that the members be baptized for not the personall baptism of him that administers but the due commission he hath for baptizing is alone considerable to make him a true Minister of Baptisme GG Gangren second Part p. 3. Oats hath dipped many in Bocking River and when that is done he hath a feast in the night and at the end thereof the Lords Supper Also Gangrena the first part p. 44. The 12. of November last there met the matter of 80 Anabaptists in a great house and had a Love-feast their Supper was dressed for them by a Cook when Supper was ended before the cloth was taken away they administred the Lords Supper HH Tombs Apology p. 54. Nor do I think the thing either such a new opinion or practise for besides that it may be doubted whether all the Apostles were baptized as suppose Matthew which is as probable for the negative as the affirmative yet were they all admitted to the Lords Supper by Christ himself When Constantine the great and others did deferre their Baptisme so long it is not likely they never received the Lords Supper afore their Baptism II Storming of Antichrist p. 6. Suppose the power of all ordinances and the keys in a time of universall defection should resolve it self radically in the Church yet there being no Church right for the matter which is part of the essence this power could not resolve it self into a Church and therefore if it be any where on earth as doubtlesse it is it must be in beleevers who joyning themselves together in Assemblies may stirre up and take again that power which was committed to the Churches and after cheated away by Antichrist The Treatise of Baptism p. 389. The power of the keys originarily and primarily is given to the Church where the power of admitting receiving and casting out is there is the power of administring and communicating all ordinances to the edification of the same body and they which have power of administring the Kingly office of Christ consisting in casting out and receiving in have also power of administring his Propheticall office of which the Sacraments are a part and therefore to the Christian Churches as to the Jews of old pertaineth the publick dispensations and services of God Rom. 9. KK Confession Article 41. The dispensation of Baptisme is no where tied to a particular officer the commission to administer it being given to them under no other consideration but considered as Disciples Treatise of Baptism p. 391. A man becomes a Prophet by vertue of a gift but no gift renders a Baptizer but a call as being a thing of publick commission teaching out of a gift hath its foundation in nature which ariseth from a personall gift and grace of the spirit but Baptism Censures Ordination and the like depend not upon a speciall gift but are acts of power conferred authoritatively upon a speciall person LL Gangren first Part p. 32. Mistresse Attaway gave an answer to the men present who brought an argument for Infants Baptisme MM Confession second Edition in the preface to the Reader Some are offended at us for meeting in houses to preach So we are blamed because we frequent not their Temples Kiffens Answer to Ricraft p. 10. You are enraged against these who worship any where save in your high places NN Ibid. You continue tithes and offerings of people as if Christ were not yet come in the flesh OO John the Baptist p. 1. The claiming tithes or any thing in stead thereof appears to be contrary to the Gospel through the whole Gospel there is not one word to countenance a forcing of the people to contribute unto the poor or unto the Minister any thing but what they please themselves PP The vanity of childish Baptism second Part p. 27. There is no more hope to see that Tribe stoop so low as to bear witnesse to this truth then there is to see them allow the doctrine and practise of blessed Saint Paul working with his own hands Acts 20.34 to be now of use and imitation in our times John the Baptist pag. 7. It were farre more Apostolick and Christian-like for Ministers to work with their own hands then to force or require a subsistence in such a manner PP 2 The power and office of the Ministery by which it is there administred is received from the Bishops who received their power from the Antichrist The vanity of childish Baptism p. 12. Ib. p. 15. The unlawfulnesse of the calling of the Ministery of the Church of England is acknowledged by many of themselves who have therfore forsaken and cast off their Ministery they received of the Bishops and departed the Land and became as Lay-men untill they were authorized anew by the election and appointment of such a Congregation as they conceived to be a true Church Ibid. p. 31. The worth or honesty of a man in a false office cannot make the office any truer or lawfuller then it is in it selfe the better the man the worse the Bishop the very same is the case of the Ministery and Priesthood here QQ Vide supra GG RR Gangren first Part p. 6. I had it from eye and ear-witnesses who were present at Kiffen and Patience Visitation of one of their Members whose name is Palmer living in Smithfield who layed hands upon her and anointed her with oyle the woman recovering came unto

not against sprinkling with all his strength and greater diligence then any before him he impugnes paedobaptism Z Secondly though as yet I have marked nothing to fall from his pen neither from any of the old Anabaptists for the rite of dipping or against our custome of sprinkling yet in spoyling of Christian infants not only of Baptism but of all interest in the Covenant of grace He spoiles all infants of all interest in the Covenant of grace as much as the children of Turks and Pagans in making Circumcision a seal to the Jews only of earthly and temporall priviledges in denying to Jewish infants all right to the new Covenant AA He is a friend to the worst Anabaptists injurious to all who oppose them till in their riper years they became actuall believers in giving a power to persons unbaptized to baptize others BB in making apologies for the worst of the Anabaptists even those of Munster CC and invectives against the best that oppose them the first reformers DD the Assembly at Westminster EE the Church of Scotland FF M. Marshall GG M. Goodwin HH and others HH 2 he flies as high as any civill and discreet Anabaptist I have met with but in those things he goes far beyond all the Anabaptists I have heard of He makes baptisme a rite needlesse either to young or old First he esteems Baptism so unnecessary a rite that men who are meet to receive it may very well be without it as Constantine Ambrose and others did delay to their old age that Sacrament II and as it seems himself is carelesse to this day to be baptized for his infant Baptism according to his arguments must be null and another Baptism as yet it seems he has not received for he professeth an unwillingnesse to joyn himself as a member to any of the Anabaptists Churches KK I suppose they are unwilling to baptize any who will not joyn in cōmunion with them Secondly when a man is baptized according to his own minde he allows him to be oft thereafter rebaptized He allows of a frequent rebaptization even so oft as he repents for sin which by the godly is done at least ought to be done every day oftner then once LL He admits unbaptized persons to the Lords Table Thirdly he makes it lawfull for persons before they be baptized to partake of the Lords Supper MM Fourthly to shew how little inclinable he is to joyn with the Anabaptists he declares himself a compleat Erastian He is a grosse Erastian avowing that no scandalous professour ought to be kept from the Lords Table NN also that there is no such thing as any censure of excommunication OO further that Christ in Scripture has not appointed any particular government for his Church PP but that the governing of the Church belongs to the Magistrate only and to such whom he appoints to that service by vertue of a commission flowing from himself QQ The third head we proposed to speak of is the Tenets which too many of the Anabaptists are pleased to borrow from the Arminians Antinomians Antitrinitarians Familists The most of the Anabaptists are Arminians Antiscripturists and blasphemous Atheists For their Arminianism M. Marshall gives abundant testimonie RR Some years ago when Anabaptism did begin under M. Mortons Ministery to spread at London the most of them did turn grosse Arminians SS and published that hereticall Dialogue against which M. Ainsworth a little before his death did print an answer and after him M. Robinson another It is true The second Edition of their Confession is not so free of Arminianisme as the first the late Confession of the seven Churches seem to reject clearly enough all the five Articles of the Arminians but as our former witnesses testifie thousands of them care not for that Confession yea I professe I cannot conjecture at the reason why the second Edition of this Confession which alone was offered to the Parliament does change so many materiall passages of the first which point-blank did militate against Arminianisme unlesse it be their farther declination to Arminianism at the penning of their second Edition For instance the seventeenth Article in the first Edition stood thus He hath fully performed all these things by which God might reconcile his elect only In the second the word only is put away as if Christ by his sacrifice had reconciled to God all mankinde as well as the elect This our suspicion is increased by finding the same alteration acted over again in the Article twenty first where the first Edition reads it thus Christ by his death did bring forth salvation and reconciliation only for the elect in the second Edition the words reconciliation only are omitted Also in the nineteenth Article these words which are the reprobate in the second Edition are scraped out and in that same Article The execution of Gods determinate counsell whereby he delivers up his enemies to a reprobate minde to be kept unto judgement are scraped out in the second Edition Likewise in that same Article I finde two more alterations In the first among the fruits which the elect have of Christs Priesthood are set down their justification adoption regeneration and sanctification all those are omitted in the latter Edition In the first Edition it is said of the Spirit that he is never taken away when once given but doth still abide begetting and nourishing faith unto immortality this is omitted in the latter Edition I grant it is put in the 23 Article which is clear enough against the Arminian errour of perseverance had not the addition of one little word cast it all loose for in the former Edition the 23 Article did run thus Those that have this precious faith can never totally nor finally fall away but in the latter all is added all these cannot fall away c. which is very true if some few persevere albeit many and the most part of these who have justifying faith should fall away totally and finally If the ground of these and many more alterations in the second Edition of that Confession proceed from any farther inclination to Arminianism in any of the prime Leaders of these seven Churches at the time of the second subscription more then appeared at the first I cannot affirm only M. Spilsberry the chief penner as it seems of that writ does now finde the Arminian errours so troublesome among his friends that he is forced to publish a particular Treatise against them VV The chiefe Churches of the Anabaptists are grosse Arminians But what ever be the condition of the seven Churches certainly M. Lambs Congregation the greatest as they say and most fruitfull of all their Societies without comparison is pestered with this gangren the great Preachers in that flock M. Oats and M. Den make it their ordinary Theme that Christ died for all for Judas as well as for Peter XX That all the sins of the first Covenant are

that circumcision did primarily seal the temporall promise and signified sanctification but secondarily I know the Anabaptists in Germany shame not to say that the Covenant made with Abraham was a meer carnall thing and had nothing to do with eternall life as for the expression of learned Cameron if by primarily he meaned immediately that it sealed these things first in order as they were types of spirituall things it may then passe cum grano salis but if by primarily he intended principally that circumcision did chiefly seal earthly blessings the opinion is too unsavoury to be received BB M. Marshals Defence 245. For my own part I seriously professe that supposing infant Baptism a nullity I cannot understand how any in the world should this day be lawfully baptized unlesse it can be made good that a person unbaptized himself may be a lawfull Minister of baptism to others Tombs Apology p. 54. That none be admitted to the Lords Supper till he be rightly baptized I professe is to be stood upon in point of prudence for right order yet if it be stood upon in point of conscience so as in no case the contrary is to be permitted it will of necessity make many superstitious perplexities for besides that it may be doubted whether all the Apostles were baptized who yet were admitted to the Lords Supper by Christ himself when Constantine the Great and others did deferre their Baptism so long it is not likely they never received the Lords Supper before their Baptisme CC Tombs Apology p. 31. I do count the story of the Anabaptists to contain in it many things the true reasons of which and the true knowledge of the circumstances concerning them will not appear till the day of the revelation of the righteous judgement of God DD Ibid. p. 32. How farre the Anabaptists sought reformation I cannot tell it is plain that Carolostadius and Pelargus and some say Melancthon would have reformed it in Saxony had not Luthers pertinacy in that as well as Consubstantiation and Images withstood it and Baltazar Hubmer sought it at Zurick and was denied it is known I think the reformed Churches have been to blame and so may be our present reformers that they have never yeelded to reform it in a regular way EE Ibid. p. 106. M. Marshals Book it appears was contrived by divers I believe the ablest of the Assembly I wish it were declared whether the paedobaptists would stick to that work or any other FF Ibid. p. 93. And though many magnifie the vertue and benefit of their juridicall excommunication yet the best intelligence I have makes me question whether it hath not b en rather an engine of much harm as being used rather against dissenters in opinion and opposers of profit then men openly vitious managers of that censure generally shewing themselves irreconciliable to them that dissent from them but favourable enough to vitious living GG Ibid. p. 57. I was told there was a very intelligent man that said he was sorry that I had M. Marshall for my Antagonist as knowing him to be apt to mistake which he conceived would be a vexation to me and indeed I finde his words true p. 69. I must confesse I finde M. Marshall still so confused a Disputer that I know not to what purpose his manner of writing in this point should tend but to puzzle his Reader and weary his respondent HH Ibid. p. 19. M. Marshall says that I vilifie M. Thomas Goodwin as a man who by spinning out similitudes and conjectures deceives his auditors I say still that I expected from M. Goodwin arguments but counted my self deluded with his conjectures finding nothing to his purpose in any of these Texts which were the main he alledged HH 2 Ibid. p. 3. I saw few or none regarded for clearing the truth but popular Orators such as relate to great men or are usefull to uphold a party are the men esteemed And p. 95. I may rather say that by my two Treatises there is such a wound given already to infant baptisme that however men may play the Mountebanks and skin it over it will never be cured at the bottom II Vide supra BB. KK Ibid. p. 10. I durst not justifie such a practise as to gather a separated Church LL Vide supra C. MM Vide supra BB. NN Tombs Apology p. 92. I doubt much how hence may be concluded any power of suspension from the Lords Supper for every emergent scandall so judged by a congregation or congregationall Presbytery OO Ibid. p 91. I have said that I doubted whether ever excommunication a sacris or the Presbyterian or the Independent Ecclesiasticall Government would be proved to be Jure Divino by Christs appointment and I doubt whether the power of the Keyes Matth. 16. be any other then doctrinall and whether Matth. 18. contain any other direction then about particular injuries betwixt brother and brother or Let him be to thee a Heathen and Publican be any other then shunning familiar converse PP Ibid. I confesse that I take it to be but a matter of prudence whether each congregation have its compleat power within it self or that it be ordered in some things by an Assembly of select persons out of divers congregations and whether congregations and Pastors be fixed or unfixed p. 93. I suppose in the manner of doing these things we have not certain precise direction from Gods word but that we are left free by God to order such things though pertaining to Christians as Christians by alterable rules of prudence QQ Ibid. p. 93. Nor doth the Church lose by having a Christian Magistrate if that jurisdiction be wanting sith I suppose it is better provided for by the constant care of a Christian Magistrate if conscientious in executing judgement if not such censures have been seldome executed with conscience or good effect RR M. Marshals Defence p. 73. Have not multitudes of our Anabaptists swallowed down all Arminianisme SS A Defence of the lawfulnesse of infants baptism in answer to M. Spilsberry VV M. Spilsberry peculiar interest of the elect in Christ and his saving grace XX Gangren first Part division second p. 23. M. Den exercises in Lambs Church the usuall theme that he is upon is Christs dying for all for Judas as well as Peter he often preaches this Doctrine as those who have heard him do report this is the everlasting Gospel to beleeve that Jesus Christ hath dyed for all men Turks Pagans and that all the sins of men committed against the morall Law were actually forgiven and pardoned when Jesus Christ shed his blood and none of them that ever men had committed or should were imputed to them but men were onely damned for not beleeving in Christ and for nothing else YY Ibid. p. 36. Oats who is a great Dipper and Preacher amongst them delivered in Bell-Alley in Colemanstreet not long ago that the Doctrine of Gods eternall election and predestination was a damnable Doctrine and

errour ZZ Ibid. p. 1. M. Den answered the Heathen had the Gospel preached to them in the creatures and in them was revealed the knowledge of Christ crucified if they had eyes to see it AAA Ibid. He said there was a power in a man to resist grace and that the grace that would convert one man would not convert another BBB Gangren first Part p. 21. They teach that regenerate men who have true grace may fall totally and finally away from the state of grace CCC Gangren first Part division second p. 22. This M. Den was sent forth by Lambs Church into Bedfordshire Cambridgeshire and those parts to preach universall grace and to rebaptize DDD M. Wels preface to the short story of the rise raign c. This kinde of Doctrine takes so well here in London and other parts of the Kingdom and you see so many daunce after this Pipe running after such and such crowding the Churches and filling the doors and windows even such carnall and vile persons many of them as care not to hear any other godly Ministers but only their Leaders EEE M. Gatakers shadows without substance p. 25. You or these you maintain affirm that the morall Law is of no use at all to a beleever no rule for him to walk nor to examine his life by and that Christians are free from the mandatory power of it yea in Pulpits they cry out Away with the Law Gangren second Part p. 126. The Preacher observed that the hand-writing of Ordinances the ten precepts faire written by the finger of God was altogether taken away FFF Ibid. p. 133. Hereupon Oats peremptorily affirmed and stood to maintain that there was no power in any Christian Magistrate to inflict a capitall punishment upon any member of a Church unlesse first he was cast out of the Church and so delivered to the secular power what ever his offence was though murder or Treason GGG Ibid. Being pressed with the authority of that Text He that sheddeth mans blood by man shall his blood be shed he and the rest cryed out What had they to do with Moses they were Christs Disciples not Moses Disciples HHH Gangren second Part p. 120. One of the followers of M. Simpson the Antinomian said it in the hearing and presence of divers M. Simpson being then also present that if a child of God should commit murder he ought not to repent of it and M. Simpson never reproved him for it though by one present in the company he was spoken unto to doe it III Christs counsell to the Angell of Laodicea p. 41 42. cited in Gatakers shadows p. 11. Nothing at all is required in any respect of him for whom Christ died they are deceivers that teach otherwise neither faith nor repentance nor self-deniall nor hearing nor use of Ordinances nor observation of Sabbath nor doing as we would be done to and the rest They are false Teachers that make these duties and teach that we must exercise our selves in these things or we shall have no part in Christ KKK Gatakers shadows p. 2. M. Saltmarsh encourages Christians not to be troubled for any sin nor to imagine that God is displeased with them or that any afflictions do befall them for their sins or that they shall ever be called to any account for them Ibid. p. 9. You infuse such principles as these that God sees no sin in them live they never so ill nor like them any whit the lesse when they do sin nor is at all displeased with them or will ever call them to account for ought they do LLL Ibid. p. 49. What you subjoyn is scandalous Place say you salvation upon a free-bottome or else you make the Covenant but an old Covenant in new terms in stead of Do this and live Believe this and live repent and live obey and live and all this is for want of revealing the mystery more fully MMM Ibid. p. 2. M. Saltmarsh preaches that Christ hath perfectly beleeved for us and perfectly repented for us Ibid. p. 36. He expoundeth all the places he quoted wherein any duty was required not as to be done by us but as done by Christ for us and so to be beleeved of us NNN Vide supra III. also Gatakers shadows p. 11. It is the way that you your self and others of the Antinomian Party propound to wit that there is nothing required to be done by any for the obtaining of a share in the redemption and salvation procured and purchased by Christ or for the application of Christs merits unto any and they may therefore be saved by Christ without faith or repentance or new obedience though they continue in infidelity impenitency and the worst sins that are OOO Gangren first Part division second p. 33. Hobson preaching against holy duties spake thus I was once as legall as any of you can be I durst not eate a bit of bread but I gave thanks I daily prayed and wept for my sins so that I had almost wept out my eyes with sorrow for sin but I am perswaded when I used all these duties I had not one jot of God in me Gatakers shadows p. 5. Your strains of a more glorious spirit are like your vaunting elswhere of a more glorious light PPP Gangren first Part second division p. 8. A great Sectary writes from Bathe that Christ came to witnesse and declare Gods love to us not to procure it for us for if God take at any time any displeasure to us he had been changeable seeing before the world began he saw us lovely in his Son he came not to procure the love of God to us or to satisfie him as some say but he was as I may say a most glorious publisher of the Gospel Ibid. p. 34. Hobson has printed that Christ did not by his death purchase life and salvation for all no not for the elect for it was not the end of God in the comming of Christ to purchase love and life but Christ himself was purchased by love that he might make out love and purchase us to love for Christ came not to reconcile God to man but man to God QQQ Vide supra PPP SSS Saltmarsh Treatises against M. Gataker TTT The Treatise of Baptism p. 32. Therefore know the mind of God and labour not anxiously about sins and the pardon of them which is a great impediment to the comfort and holinesse of our life VVV The Confession of the seven Churches first Edition Article 28. Those which have union with Christ are justified from all their sins past present and to come XXX Ibid. Article 25. The tender of the Gospel to the conversion of sinners is absolutely free no way requiring as absolutely necessary qualifications preparations terrors of the Law or preceding Ministery of the Law but onely and alone the naked soule a sinner and ungodly to receive Christ YYY Gangren second Part p. 20. Some speaking to the Antinomian Taylor deprehended in the acts of his