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A66932 A little stone, pretended to be out of the mountain, tried, and found to be a counterfeit, or, An examination & refutation of Mr. Lockyers lecture, preached at Edinburgh, anno 1651, concerning the mater of the visible church and afterwards printed with an appendix for popular government of single congregations : together with an examination, in two appendices, of what is said on these same purposes in a letter of some in Aberdene, who lately have departed from the communion and government of this church / by James Wood ... Wood, James, 1608-1664. 1654 (1654) Wing W3399; ESTC R206983 330,782 402

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subjoin_v to_o his_o vindiciae_fw-la vindiciarum_fw-la i_o shall_v here_o note_v some_o few_o of_o they_o to_o this_o purpose_n for_o the_o reader_n who_o may_v be_v have_v not_o the_o book_n at_o hand_n 1._o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n as_o a_o apostle_n as_o a_o elder_a and_o as_o a_o believer_n so_o the_o sense_n be_v most_o sit_v the_o key_n pag._n 4._o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n not_o as_o a_o apostle_n nor_o as_o a_o elder_a but_o as_o a_o profess_a believer_n the_o way_n peter_n receive_v not_o the_o key_n mere_o as_o a_o believer_n but_o as_o a_o believer_n public_o profess_v his_o faith_n the_o way_n clear_v p._n 2._o fol._n 39_o 9_o it_o appear_v that_o christ_n give_v the_o key_n to_o the_o fraternity_n with_o the_o presbytery_n ibid._n and_o the_o way_n clear_v part._n 2._o pag._n 22._o a_o particular_a church_n of_o saint_n profess_v the_o faith_n i_o member_n without_o offificer_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o all_o the_o church_n office_n with_o all_o their_o spiritual_a gift_n and_o power_n the_o key_n pag._n 31._o 9_o as_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v diverse_a so_o be_v the_o subject_n to_o who_o they_o be_v commit_v diverse_a the_o key_n pag._n 11._o so_o locky_a here_o but_o that_o he_o add_v not_o profess_v the_o apostle_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o apostolical_a power_n ibid._n 32._o a_o synod_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o that_o power_n whereby_o error_n be_v convince_v and_o condemn_v ibid._n pag._n 47._o not_o believer_n as_o believer_n but_o believer_n convenant_v and_o fit_o capable_a according_a to_o christ_n appointment_n hook_n suru._n p._n 1._o p._n 203._o 9_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n belong_v first_o to_o a_o congregation_n of_o covenant_a believer_n hook_n suru._n part._n 1._o pag._n 219._o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n as_o the_o first_o subject_n ibid._n p._n 195._o that_o conceit_n be_v wide_a to_o make_v 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doctrine_n therein_o 1._o whereas_o he_o propound_v to_o himself_o to_o dispute_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o eldership_n or_o presbytery_n without_o the_o particular_a congregation_n i._n e._n as_o he_o call_v it_o afterward_o foreign_a to_o the_o congregation_n he_o but_o enter_v in_o a_o conflict_n against_o his_o own_o fiction_n and_o whereas_o he_o say_v sect_n 20._o that_o he_o find_v among_o their_o brethren_n he_o mean_v presbyterian_o that_o a_o presbytery_n send_v from_o several_a congregation_n be_v a_o foreign_a presbytery_n i_o humble_o conceive_v for_o aught_o i_o can_v remember_v of_o any_o of_o they_o he_o wrong_v they_o exceed_v much_o i_o do_v not_o remember_v of_o any_o presbyterian_a that_o acknowledge_v the_o presbytery_n of_o several_a congregation_n associate_v in_o government_n to_o be_v a_o foreign_a or_o extrinsecall_a presbytery_n to_o these_o congregation_n nor_o be_v it_o so_o indeed_o it_o can_v be_v call_v a_o foreign_a presbytery_n to_o all_o 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concurrence_n and_o copartnership_n with_o they_o in_o the_o government_n but_o the_o presbytery_n we_o speak_v for_o be_v make_v up_o of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o several_a congregation_n which_o it_o govern_v as_o intrinsical_v collateral_a part_n constituent_v thereof_o and_o therefore_o can_v be_v call_v foreign_a to_o these_o several_a congregation_n 2._o when_o as_o he_o express_v the_o power_n of_o these_o presbytery_n against_o which_o he_o propound_v this_o dispute_n under_o the_o name_n of_o coercition_n call_v it_o a_o coercive_a power_n he_o seem_v on_o purpose_n to_o choice_n a_o odious_a word_n to_o render_v it_o suspicious_a by_o the_o very_a name_n for_o the_o word_n of_o coerce_a in_o the_o common_a use_n most_o seem_v to_o import_v outward_a bodily_a or_o civil_a force_n exercise_v upon_o person_n or_o thing_n to_o stop_v and_o repress_v their_o action_n ipsis_fw-la etiam_fw-la renitentibus_fw-la we_o ascribe_v no_o such_o power_n unto_o presbytery_n but_o a_o power_n of_o execute_v spiritual_a censure_n which_o have_v no_o external_a force_n upon_o person_n yea_o nor_o physical_a neither_o but_o only_o moral_a as_o administer_v by_o the_o eldership_n though_o they_o may_v be_v accompany_v by_o god_n with_o a_o physical_a i_o mean_v a_o real_a operation_n upon_o the_o person_n either_o in_o mercy_n or_o judgement_n and_o if_o at_o any_o time_n those_o who_o be_v for_o presbytery_n over_o more_o congregation_n speak_v of_o their_o power_n call_v it_o coercive_a they_o mean_v no_o other_o thing_n but_o a_o power_n of_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n exercise_v in_o spiritual_a censure_n such_o as_o the_o author_n himself_o and_o these_o of_o his_o way_n attribute_n to_o particular_a eldership_n of_o a_o single_a congregation_n together_o with_o the_o congregation_n over_o every_o member_n thereof_o if_o the_o author_n have_v deal_v ingenuous_o with_o we_o he_o shall_v not_o use_v such_o a_o word_n without_o explanation_n of_o the_o thing_n he_o know_v we_o mean_v but_o now_o let_v we_o see_v the_o clear_a state_n of_o the_o controversy_n in_o this_o mater_fw-la section_n 3_o the_o subject_n in_o general_a whereupon_o the_o question_n run_v between_o we_o and_o the_o independent_a brethren_n be_v a_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n of_o more_o congregation_n than_o one_o concern_v which_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n confess_v and_o uncontroverted_a where_o of_o we_o shall_v take_v notice_n in_o the_o first_o place_n that_o we_o may_v the_o better_o see_v where_o the_o difference_n and_o contoversie_n lie_v 1._o it_o be_v confess_v by_o our_o brethren_n themselves_o that_o consociation_n of_o more_o particular_a church_n or_o congregation_n in_o one_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n be_v lawful_a and_o useful_a hooker_n suru._n p._n 4._o c._n 1_o 2._o 2._o that_o these_o consociation_n be_v and_o may_v be_v of_o several_a sort_n and_o degree_n some_o lesser_a some_o great_a class_n synod_n and_o these_o provincial_n nationall_n 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case_n ordain_v or_o excommunicate_v but_o we_o say_v that_o when_o there_o be_v more_o congregation_n to_o associate_v with_o and_o when_o association_n may_v be_v have_v they_o shall_v not_o perform_v these_o act_n alone_o but_o in_o a_o associate_n presbytery_n and_o we_o make_v not_o the_o principal_a ground_n of_o this_o that_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n be_v not_o sufficient_a viz._n for_o gift_n and_o ability_n for_o exercise_v these_o act_n although_o there_o be_v a_o ground_n of_o necessity_n of_o it_o ordinary_o from_o this_o it_o be_v seldom_o that_o in_o particular_a congregation_n there_o will_v be_v find_v eldership_n sufficient_a for_o manage_v these_o matter_n for_o although_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n be_v very_o sufficient_a this_o way_n yet_o we_o say_v they_o ought_v not_o to_o exercise_v these_o act_n by_o themselves_o without_o a_o associate_n presbytery_n at_o least_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o do_v by_o 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from_o church_n not_o only_o because_o other_o learned_a man_n have_v speak_v abundant_o and_o well_o upon_o that_o purpose_n namely_o my_o reverend_n and_o learned_a colleague_n in_o the_o ministry_n and_o superior_a in_o the_o society_n wherein_o i_o live_v mr._n rutherfurd_n in_o his_o peaceable_a plea_n and_o due_a right_n but_o also_o because_o i_o find_v nothing_o bring_v by_o this_o author_n upon_o the_o matter_n worth_a the_o stay_n upon_o in_o handle_v that_o matter_n i_o shall_v only_o give_v some_o few_o note_n upon_o some_o thing_n the_o author_n i_o think_v out_o of_o hear_v of_o passion_n have_v vent_v himself_o in_o section_n 2_o have_v sect._n 47._o object_v to_o himself_o thus_o you_o seem_v to_o be_v for_o separation_n from_o a_o presbyterial_a church_n we_o find_v no_o separation_n but_o in_o case_n of_o idolatry_n to_o this_o sect._n 48._o he_o answer_v thus_o in_o sum_n that_o not_o only_o heathen_n have_v their_o idolatry_n as_o dagon_n but_o also_o christian_n they_o as_o a_o supreme_a bishop_n over_o all_o church_n which_o he_o insinuate_v to_o have_v be_v the_o papist_n idolatry_n alas_o he_o may_v have_v give_v other_o instance_n of_o their_o idolatry_n then_o this_o as_o their_o worship_v a_o breaden_a god_n crucifix_n relic_n saint_n depart_v image_n etc._n etc._n then_o a_o supreme_a bishop_n or_o archbishop_n over_o the_o church_n in_o such_o a_o nation_n the_o prelatical_a protestant_n idol_n he_o will_v say_v and_o then_o a_o combination_n of_o bishop_n over_o church_n hereby_o mean_v a_o associate_n presbytery_n or_o assembly_n presbyteer_v rule_v more_o church_n odious_o call_v they_o bishop_n that_o to_o he_o be_v also_o idolatry_n so_o that_o command_v 2_o cor._n 6._o 17._o come_v out_o from_o one_o kind_n of_o idolatry_n be_v come_v out_o from_o all_o or_o else_o that_o rule_n bind_v only_o to_o separate_v from_o heathenish_a idolatry_n what_o be_v not_o warrant_v by_o the_o word_n be_v a_o idol_n answ_n we_o shall_v not_o 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as_o we_o do_v in_o our_o church_n now_o but_o none_o of_o these_o nor_o all_o of_o they_o amount_v to_o a_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a power_n of_o government_n but_o as_o for_o such_o act_n as_o belong_v direct_o to_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a government_n as_o ordination_n of_o minister_n judicial_a sentence_a person_n to_o be_v excommunicate_a or_o absolution_n from_o excommunication_n give_v of_o definitive_a sentence_n in_o public_a determination_n of_o controversy_n of_o faith_n or_o of_o matter_n pertain_v to_o order_n and_o rite_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n let_v our_o author_n produce_v any_o testimony_n or_o allow_v practice_n of_o the_o people_n formal_a influence_n and_o concurrence_n in_o these_o if_o they_o will_v say_v any_o thing_n from_o that_o antiquity_n for_o a_o ecclesiastic_a government_n proper_o democraticall_a either_o in_o whole_a or_o in_o part_n section_n 15_o hierome_n who_o be_v near_o these_o age_n and_o better_o acquaint_v with_o their_o way_n than_o these_o author_n tell_v we_o in_o the_o general_a in_o who_o hand_n the_o power_n of_o government_n be_v then_o in_o that_o remarkable_a and_o famous_a say_n of_o he_o on_o the_o epistle_n to_o tit._n c._n 1._o antequam_fw-la diaboli_fw-la instinctu_fw-la studia_fw-la in_o religione_fw-la fierent_fw-la &_o diceretur_fw-la in_o populo_fw-la ego_fw-la sum_fw-la pauli_n ego_fw-la apollo_n ego_fw-la vero_fw-la cephae_fw-la communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v what_o learned_a chamier_n say_v on_o this_o of_o hierome_n lib._n 10._o de_fw-la oecumen_fw-la pontifc_fw-la 5._o §_o 22._o answer_v to_o bellarmin_n he_o arg._n respondeo_fw-la ad_fw-la primum_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la aristocratia_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la totidem_fw-la syllabis_fw-la nominata_fw-la tamen_fw-la certò_fw-la significatam_fw-la his_fw-la verbis_fw-la communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o he_o add_v bonam_fw-la autem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la id_fw-la regiminis_fw-la formam_fw-la inde_fw-la sequitur_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dicat_fw-la hieronymus_n come_v in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la id_fw-la sit_fw-la optimum_fw-la quod_fw-la verissimum_fw-la id_fw-la autem_fw-la verissimum_fw-la quod_fw-la primum_fw-la dicit_fw-la etiam_fw-la hieron_n fuisse_fw-la ex_fw-la institutionis_fw-la dominicae_fw-la veritate_fw-la and_o mark_v in_o this_o same_o learned_a author_n who_o word_n i_o be_o now_o cite_v that_o the_o very_a thing_n he_o undertake_v to_o demonstrate_v in_o that_o c._n 5._o and_o some_o follow_v both_o from_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n be_v that_o the_o government_n as_o well_o of_o particular_a as_o of_o consociat_fw-la churches_n be_v pure_a aristocracy_n c._n 5._o §_o 1._o section_n 16_o more_o particular_o 1._o that_o ordination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o only_o be_v the_o authoritative_a act_n in_o the_o call_v of_o a_o minister_n and_o that_o which_o confer_v ministerial_o under_o christ_n a_o mininisteriall_a power_n be_v in_o these_o primitive_a time_n the_o proper_a and_o peculiar_a act_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o presbytery_n be_v so_o evident_a and_o clear_a to_o all_o that_o have_v read_v any_o thing_n of_o these_o time_n that_o it_o be_v waste_v of_o time_n and_o paper_n to_o produce_v testimony_n for_o it_o indeed_o we_o find_v in_o antiquity_n that_o after_o that_o once_o there_o begin_v a_o constant_a president_n to_o be_v set_v up_o in_o the_o presbytery_n with_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n which_o in_o scripture_n be_v common_a to_o all_o presbyter_n appropriate_a to_o he_o alone_o somewhat_o of_o the_o act_n of_o ordination_n begin_v also_o to_o be_v peculiar_a to_o he_o and_o as_o he_o advance_v in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d preeminency_n above_o presbyter_n so_o be_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n more_o and_o more_o defer_v to_o he_o or_o usurp_v by_o he_o alone_o and_o hence_o come_v that_o point_n of_o difference_n between_o a_o bishop_n and_o a_o presbyter_n of_o which_o i_o in_o his_o time_n quid_fw-la facit_fw-la exceptâ_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la episcopus_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la facit_fw-la presbyter_n but_o that_o ever_o the_o people_n have_v any_o formal_a concurrence_n in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a to_o antiquity_n section_n 17_o 2._o that_o the_o power_n and_o exercise_v of_o the_o key_n of_o discipline_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v sentence_v unto_o censure_n and_o absolution_n from_o censure_n also_o be_v only_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o college_n of_o presbyter_n in_o those_o time_n of_o the_o church_n be_v as_o evident_a to_o such_o as_o be_v any_o way_n acquaint_v in_o they_o origen_n hom._n 7._o in_o josuam_fw-la tertio_fw-la admonitum_fw-la resipiscere_fw-la nolentem_fw-la jubet_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la corpore_fw-la desecari_fw-la per_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la praesides_fw-la the_o centuriator_n cent._n 3._o c._n 7._o tell_v we_o that_o then_o jus_fw-la tractandi_fw-la de_fw-la excommunicandis_fw-la aut_fw-la recipiendis_fw-la lapsis_fw-la publicae_fw-la penes_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la seniores_fw-la erat_fw-la qui_fw-la ad_fw-la eam_fw-la rem_fw-la convenire_fw-la solebant_fw-la and_o they_o cite_v for_o this_o tertullia_n apologetic_n the_o order_n then_o observe_v in_o receive_v penitent_n that_o have_v offend_v by_o grievous_a scandalous_a sin_n be_v most_o clear_a for_o this_o they_o be_v first_o to_o compear_v before_o the_o bishop_n and_o his_o clergy_n i._n e._n the_o presbytery_n wherein_o the_o bishop_n then_o differ_v from_o other_o presbyter_n ordine_fw-la tantum_fw-la non_fw-la gradu_fw-la by_o they_o the_o penitent_n cause_v be_v judicial_o cognosce_v the_o manner_n of_o satisfaction_n prescribe_v and_o enjoin_v to_o they_o and_o have_v perform_v that_o and_o make_v their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d before_o the_o people_n they_o be_v actual_o absolve_v by_o the_o imposition_n of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n or_o the_o presbytery_n cyprian_n epistle_n be_v full_a of_o testimony_n to_o this_o purpose_n it_o be_v needless_a labour_n to_o insist_v in_o citation_n of_o they_o only_o i_o think_v it_o worth_a the_o pain_n to_o produce_v one_o passage_n whereby_o it_o may_v evident_o appear_v that_o the_o way_n of_o absolve_v and_o receive_v penitent_n be_v just_a as_o it_o be_v now_o in_o the_o presbyterian_a government_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n and_o substance_n it_o be_v in_o lib._n 3._o epist_n 11._o in_o pamel_n ord._n epist_n 46._o from_o cornelius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o cyprian_a concern_v the_o return_n of_o some_o confessor_n from_o the_o novatian_a schism_n to_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n there_o cornelius_n after_o he_o have_v relate_v how_o these_o confessor_n have_v express_v their_o desire_n of_o reconciliation_n to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o take_v with_o the_o fault_n lay_v to_o their_o charge_n in_o a_o private_a and_o extrajudiciall_a way_n he_o proceed_v thus_o omni_fw-la igitur_fw-la actu_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o perlato_fw-la placuit_fw-la contrahi_fw-la presbyterium_fw-la adfuerunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la episcopi_fw-la quinque_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o hodie_fw-la praesentes_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la ut_fw-la firmato_fw-la consilio_fw-la quid_fw-la circa_fw-la personam_fw-la eorum_fw-la observari_fw-la deberet_fw-la consensu_fw-la omnium_fw-la statueretur_fw-la et_fw-la ut_fw-la motum_fw-la omnium_fw-la &_o consilium_fw-la singulorum_fw-la dignosceres_fw-la etiam_fw-la sententias_fw-la nostras_fw-la placuit_fw-la in_o notitiam_fw-la vestri_fw-la perferri_fw-la quas_fw-la &_o subjectas_fw-la leges_fw-la his_o ita_fw-la gestis_fw-la in_o presbyterium_fw-la venerunt_fw-la vrbanus_n etc._n etc._n et_fw-la plerique_fw-la fratres_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la iis_fw-la adjunxerant_fw-la summis_fw-la precibus_fw-la desiderantes_fw-la ut_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la ante_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la gesta_fw-la in_fw-la oblivionem_fw-la cederent_fw-la nullaque_fw-la eorum_fw-la mentio_fw-la haberetur_fw-la quod_fw-la erat_fw-la consequens_fw-la omnis_fw-la hic_fw-la actus_fw-la populo_fw-la erat_fw-la insinuandus_fw-la ut_fw-la &_o ipsos_fw-la viderent_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la constitutos_fw-la have_v relate_v the_o people_n expression_n of_o their_o joy_n he_o set_v down_o the_o confession_n which_o the_o penitent_n make_v nos_fw-la errorem_fw-la nostrum_fw-la confitemur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o then_o add_v istâ_fw-la
de_fw-la ritibus_fw-la circa_fw-la clave_n and_o you_o will_v find_v that_o the_o judicial_a power_n of_o discipline_n be_v not_o common_a to_o the_o people_n but_o proper_a to_o the_o minister_n only_o some_o interest_n therein_o be_v for_o honour_n sake_n give_v to_o martyr_n 2_o as_o to_o that_o cite_v from_o whittaker_n that_o learned_a theologue_n himself_o in_o the_o word_n immediate_o go_v before_o these_o cite_v clear_v in_o what_o respect_n it_o be_v that_o he_o say_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v always_o in_o part_n democraticall_a when_o he_o say_v si_fw-mi totum_fw-la corpus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la n._n volumus_fw-la respicere_fw-la quatenus_fw-la in_fw-la electione_n episcoporum_fw-la &_o presbyterorum_fw-la suffragia_fw-la serebat_fw-la ita_fw-la tamen_fw-la ●t_z 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d semper_fw-la à_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la servaretur_fw-la democraticum_fw-la so_o then_o he_o call_v it_o partly_o democraticall_a in_o this_o respect_n that_o the_o people_n have_v vote_n in_o the_o election_n of_o their_o minister_n which_o we_o grant_v the_o people_n ought_v to_o have_v and_o if_o any_o will_n in_o this_o respect_n call_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n in_o part_n democraticall_a we_o shall_v not_o contend_v about_o the_o name_n only_o we_o will_v say_v that_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n be_v no_o more_o but_o the_o nomination_n or_o designation_n of_o a_o person_n to_o the_o ministry_n be_v no_o proper_a or_o formal_a act_n of_o authoritative_a power_n the_o other_o objection_n make_v use_v of_o be_v from_o cyprian_n lib._n 1._o epist_n 1●_n in_o pamel_n ord._n epist_n 6._o ad_fw-la id_fw-la verò_fw-la quod_fw-la scripserunt_fw-la mihi_fw-la donatus_n &_o fortunatus_n novatus_n &_o curdius_n solus_fw-la rescribere_fw-la nihil_fw-la potui●_n quando_fw-la à_fw-la primordio_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la mei_fw-la statuerim_fw-la nihil_fw-la sine_fw-la consilio_fw-la vestro_fw-la &_o sine_fw-la consensu_fw-la plebis_fw-la sententiâ_fw-la plebis_fw-la pam●meae_n privatâ_fw-la sententiâ_fw-la meâ_fw-la privatim_fw-la sententiâ_fw-la gerere_fw-la answ_n how_o far_o that_o grave_n pious_a and_o zealous_a ancient_n be_v from_o the_o independent_a way_n of_o church_n government_n among_o many_o place_n in_o his_o write_n that_o one_o famous_a passage_n in_o lib._n 1._o de_fw-la unitate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la do_v abundant_o demonstrate_v and_o clear_v as_o with_o sunshine_n loquor_fw-la dominus_fw-la ad_fw-la petrum_fw-la ego_fw-la dico_fw-la tibi_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o these_o word_n hanc_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la unitatem_fw-la and_o again_o a_o little_a after_o from_o these_o word_n quam_fw-la unitatem_fw-la firmiter_fw-la tenere_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o these_o quomodo_fw-la solis_fw-la multi_fw-la radii_fw-la this_o place_n as_o it_o hew_v down_o the_o antichristian_a papal_a monarchy_n so_o it_o be_v a_o clear_a testimony_n against_o popular_a and_o supreme_a independent_a government_n in_o a_o single_a congregation_n while_o as_o therein_o the_o author_n so_o clear_o assert_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n to_o have_v be_v give_v by_o christ_n and_o put_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o a_o equal_a society_n of_o honour_n and_o power_n 2._o that_o there_o be_v one_o catholic_n visible_a church_n and_o that_o this_o catholic_n church_n be_v but_o one_o charge_n vnus_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la cujus_fw-la à_fw-la singulis_fw-la in_o solidum_fw-la pars_fw-la tenetur_fw-la and_o that_o unitatem_fw-la hanc_fw-la firmiter_fw-la tenere_fw-la &_o vindicare_fw-la debent_fw-la episcopi_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la president_n ut_fw-la episcopatum_fw-la quoque_fw-la ipsum_fw-la unum_fw-la etque_fw-la indivisum_fw-la probent_fw-la then_o which_o nothing_o can_v be_v say_v more_o forcible_o against_o that_o crumble_a of_o the_o church_n into_o so_o many_o single_a congregation_n independent_a in_o themselves_o and_o without_o all_o union_n and_o conjunction_n in_o point_n of_o government_n but_o to_o the_o place_n in_o hand_n cite_v from_o epist_n 10._o lib._n 3._o gulartius_fw-la and_o junius_n note_n on_o the_o place_n clear_v the_o matter_n well_o for_o we_o nempe_fw-la agebatur_fw-la de_fw-la aliqua_fw-la electione_n quam_fw-la cypriano_n quidam_fw-la è_fw-la presbyterio_n suggessera●_n eo_fw-la quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ex_fw-la persecutionibus_fw-la parte_fw-la svi_fw-la presbyterii_fw-la destituta_fw-la esset_fw-la respondet_fw-la nihil_fw-la se_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la causa_fw-la unquam_fw-la facere_fw-la voluisse_fw-la quin_fw-la &_o presbyterii_fw-la consilium_fw-la &_o plebis_fw-la consensum_fw-la adhiberet_fw-la but_o what_o be_v the_o place_n and_o part_n of_o the_o people_n in_o election_n we_o controvert_v not_o nay_o we_o say_v with_o the_o same_o ancient_n lib._n 1._o epist_n 4._o quando_fw-la ipsa_fw-la plebs_fw-la maxim_n habeat_fw-la potestatem_fw-la vel_fw-la eligendi_fw-la dignos_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la vel_fw-la indignos_fw-la recusandi_fw-la and_o as_o he_o say_v afterward_o eligendus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la immaculatus_fw-la &_o integer_fw-la praesente_fw-la plebe_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o show_v i_o a_o place_n in_o that_o writer_n ascribe_v to_o the_o people_n formal_a concurrence_n with_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n in_o any_o juridical_a authoritative_a act_n of_o government_n as_o in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n sentence_v person_n to_o censure_n to_o excommunication_n and_o absolve_v from_o excommunication_n judicial_a and_o definitive_a determination_n of_o controversy_n in_o religion_n but_o now_o this_o book_n have_v grow_v to_o bigness_n beyond_o my_o intention_n at_o first_o i_o will_v insist_v no_o further_o but_o leave_v these_o brethren_n i_o have_v be_v last_o speak_v with_o my_o hearty_a desire_n to_o god_n on_o their_o behalf_n that_o he_o will_v show_v they_o mercy_n to_o remember_v from_o whence_o they_o have_v fall_v repent_v and_o do_v their_o first_o work_n finis_fw-la
bring_v he_o just_a two_o one_o of_o yesterday_o i_o may_v say_v juggle_n in_o the_o business_n and_o another_o nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n see_v we_o they_o both_o section_n 2_o first_o in_o the_o first_o time_n this_o be_v so_o well_o know_v and_o so_o frequent_a in_o practice_n that_o bishop_n whitegift_n himself_o one_o that_o want_v not_o wit_n nor_o learning_n nor_o any_o other_o help_n and_o set_v all_o his_o strength_n to_o maintain_v a_o these_o contrary_n to_o what_o we_o be_v upon_o yet_o be_v constrain_v to_o confess_v that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v democratiall_a or_o popular_a the_o people_n or_o multitude_n have_v hand_n almost_o in_o every_o thing_n defence_n pag._n 182._o which_o word_n almost_o do_v suit_n with_o the_o thing_n i_o be_o upon_o for_o indeed_o as_o i_o have_v say_v in_o all_o weighty_a matter_n the_o whole_a body_n have_v their_o joint_a voice_n as_o have_v be_v before_o prove_v answ_n 1._o that_o whiteg●ft_o set_v all_o his_o strength_n to_o maintain_v 〈◊〉_d these_o contrary_n to_o what_o 〈…〉_o pres●…ation_n of_o the_o ma●_n mind_n the_o 〈…〉_o be_v that_o the_o 〈…〉_o government_n and_o ju●…_n 〈…〉_o hand_n only_o of_o th●_n 〈…〉_o ●…lats_n exclude_v no●_n 〈…〉_o all_o other_o presby●_n 〈…〉_o church_n 2._o by_o the●…_n 〈…〉_o wherein_o he_o say_v that_o 〈…〉_o know_n and_o frequen●…_n 〈…〉_o he_o mean_n 〈…〉_o of_o the_o church_n 〈…〉_o themselves_o 〈◊〉_d or_o therewith_o take_v in_o the_o next_o 〈…〉_o the_o church_n if_o 〈◊〉_d mean_v the_o latter_a i_o conceive_v he_o will_v ●one_n much_o better_a to_o 〈◊〉_d cite_v some_o writer_n of_o these_o time_n themselves_o say_v so_o much_o then_o take_v the_o matter_n upon_o report_n from_o whitegift_n but_o let_v he_o if_o he_o can_v produce_v any_o ancient_a writer_n ecclesiastic_a of_o these_o time_n either_o speak_v for_o his_o tenet_n in_o dogmate_n or_o relate_v any_o practice_n thereof_o in_o the_o church_n of_o these_o time_n this_o he_o will_v 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