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to_o see_v the_o whole_a church_n satisfy_v before_o they_o release_v the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o do_v they_o show_v not_o what_o right_n the_o multitude_n have_v to_o sit_v judge_n with_o the_o bishop_n but_o what_o â—â—e_v themselves_o have_v to_o remove_v from_o the_o people_n all_o occasion_n of_o stumble_v id._n pag._n 113._o if_o you_o take_v excommunication_n for_o remove_v the_o unruly_a from_o the_o civil_a society_n of_o the_o faithful_a until_o they_o conform_v themselves_o unto_o a_o more_o christian_a course_n of_o life_n i_o be_o not_o altogether_o averse_a that_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v concur_v in_o that_o action_n etc._n etc._n see_v august_n contr_n par_fw-fr ep._n 1_o l._n 2._o ca._n 1._o can._n stay_v sect._n 12._o pag._n 123._o not_o so_o much_o as_o be_v to_o be_v desire_v but_o in_o a_o eminent_a sort_n and_o that_o with_o god_n