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the_o counsel_n to_o his_o own_o humour_n and_o to_o his_o own_o end_n but_o in_o case_n he_o shall_v assume_v and_o usurp_v any_o such_o licence_n which_o god_n forbid_v for_o certain_a he_o shall_v never_o mend_v the_o text_n of_o st._n paul_n st._n chrysostome_n st._n thomas_n and_o other_o why_o then_o shall_v we_o give_v any_o credit_n like_v or_o ear_n to_o the_o novelty_n of_o the_o lord_n cardinal_n baronius_n but_o rather_o give_v some_o answer_n to_o your_o error_n 1._o nomination_n to_o the_o popedom_n you_o say_v be_v even_o as_o nomination_n to_o benefice_n that_o sir_n with_o your_o good_a lâ—ave_n be_v false_a to_o use_v your_o own_o term_n for_o the_o popedom_n be_v not_o a_o benefice_n but_o a_o supreme_a spiritual_a dignity_n institute_v and_o ordain_v as_o catholic_n belie_v e_o by_o our_o bless_a saviour_n and_o in_o case_n it_o be_v a_o benefice_n then_o the_o right_n of_o nomination_n thereunto_o belong_v to_o the_o emperor_n and_o none_o other_o 2._o if_o 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