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procurator_n and_o his_o maintain_n or_o assert_v the_o diffusive_a church_n only_o to_o be_v infallible_a prove_v false_a 69_o etc._n etc._n their_o four_o allegation_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n prove_v false_a 76._o their_o other_o impertinent_a or_o unconclude_a allegation_n consider_v but_o more_o especial_o at_o large_a their_o example_n or_o precedent_n of_o mattathias_n and_o the_o maccabee_n against_o antiochus_n 79_o etc._n etc._n their_o latin_a postscript_n consider_v 83._o three_o several_a formulary_n of_o a_o profession_n of_o allegiance_n make_v by_o they_o and_o a_o four_o offer_v 85_o 86_o 87._o the_o provincial_a and_o diffinitory_a of_o the_o franciscan_n deal_v with_o at_o multifernan_n by_o the_o procurator_n to_o sign_n the_o remonstrance_n delay_n and_o why_o 69_o 90._o they_o before_o with_o some_o other_o disclaim_v the_o remonstrance_n by_o a_o public_a instrument_n and_o send_v a_o agent_n to_o flanders_n to_o get_v it_o condemn_v 91._o nevertheless_o 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civil_a law_n 182._o or_o from_o the_o canon_n law_n 195._o that_o it_o be_v in_o the_o power_n either_o of_o pope_n or_o church_n to_o grant_v such_o exemption_n not_o probable_a by_o reason_n 217._o no_o such_o exemption_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la make_v by_o any_o pope_n 230._o on_o the_o contrary_a that_o the_o clergy_n be_v not_o exempt_v from_o the_o very_a coercive_a power_n of_o the_o supreme_a temporal_a even_a lay-magistrate_n prove_v first_o by_o theological_a argument_n 243._o next_o by_o holy_a scripture_n 272._o then_o by_o the_o interpretation_n or_o sense_n of_o the_o same_o holy_a scripture_n as_o deliver_v by_o the_o holy_a father_n even_o pope_n themselves_o in_o their_o commentary_n 300._o in_o the_o four_o place_n by_o the_o practice_n as_o well_o of_o holy_a pope_n as_o of_o other_o holy_a father_n 314._o in_o the_o five_o by_o the_o practice_n consequent_o of_o christian_a prince_n 345._o last_o by_o the_o very_a canon_n even_o papal_a of_o the_o catholic_n church_n 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canutus_n s._n edward_n william_n the_o conqueror_n henry_n i_o and_o king_n stephen_n 414_o 415_o 416_o 417._o four_o several_a answer_n to_o the_o foresay_a grand_a argument_n the_o first_o of_o they_o 418._o second_o 424._o three_o 430._o four_o pag._n 431._o the_o author_n rely_v or_o only_o or_o principal_o on_o the_o two_o first_o answer_n 431._o st._n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n why_o just_o esteem_v a_o martyr_n 418_o and_o from_o thence_o to_o 431._o the_o height_n and_o amplitude_n of_o exemption_n for_o clerk_n i._n e._n churchman_n in_o england_n former_o and_o it_o no_o less_o complain_v of_o 436._o contemporary_a author_n of_o good_a repute_n condemn_v st._n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n 433_o 434._o st._n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n vindicate_v from_o treason_n 437._o and_o from_o thence_o to_o 462._o the_o lxxvii_o section_n out_o of_o all_o the_o former_a thirteen_o or_o fourteen_o section_n upon_o or_o concern_v ecclesiastical_a immunity_n infer_v the_o final_a conclusion_n of_o all_o and_o consequent_o and_o very_o particular_o justify_v the_o irish_a remonstrance_n of_o the_o year_n 1661._o against_o the_o louvain_n censure_n by_o four_o several_a argument_n or_o syllogism_n 463_o and_o from_o thence_o to_o 487._o return_v to_o the_o relation_n of_o pure_a matter_n of_o fact_n 488._o paper_n give_v by_o gerrot_n moor_n esq_n to_o the_o lord_n lieutenant_n 489._o a_o second_o paper_n give_v by_o patrick_n daly_n vicar-general_n of_o ardmagh_n 490._o a_o three_o paper_n give_v by_o james_n dempsy_n vicar-apostolical_a of_o dublin_n and_o capitulary_a of_o kildare_n 492._o five_o reason_n why_o the_o antiremonstrants_a grow_v very_o insolent_a about_o june_n 1644._o 493._o a_o proclamation_n issue_v by_o the_o lord_n deputy_n together_o with_o another_o accident_n allay_v their_o insolence_n 494._o two_o letter_n the_o one_o from_o the_o provincial_n the_o other_o from_o the_o diffinitory_a of_o the_o franciscan_n sit_v at_o multifernan_n to_o the_o procurator_n 498._o their_o letter_n to_o the_o belgic_a commissary_n general_n 499._o the_o procurator_n letter_n to_o the_o say_a commissary_n 500_o cardinal_n francis_n barberin_n letter_n and_o memorial_n therein_o enclose_v to_o the_o say_a commissary_n against_o the_o procurator_n father_n charon_n and_o rest_n of_o the_o franciscan_a remonstrant_n with_o the_o same_o commissary_n answer_v to_o the_o cardinal_n 505_o 506._o that_o commissary_n letter_n answer_v sir_n patrick_n o_o moledy_n 509._o internuncio_n de_fw-fr vecchiis_fw-la conference_n with_o and_o verbal_a message_n by_o father_n gearnon_n to_o charon_n and_o walsh_n 510._o the_o procurator_n conference_n at_o london_n with_o the_o say_a belgic_a apostolical_a internuncius_fw-la hieronymus_n de_fw-la vecchiis_fw-la 511._o the_o same_o internuncio_n be_v letter_n to_o father_n matthew_n duff_n alias_o lion_n 513._o his_o letter_n also_o to_o father_n bonaventure_n o_o bruodin_n 515._o observation_n on_o the_o 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be_v ecclesiastical_a judge_n give_v they_o in_o such_o exempt_v cause_n both_o criminal_a and_o civil_a but_o give_v they_o so_o by_o the_o supreme_a authority_n civil_a and_o proceed_v in_o so_o much_o against_o they_o to_o a_o mere_a civil_a determination_n execution_n and_o coaction_n by_o virtue_n only_o of_o the_o power_n derive_v from_o the_o civil_a law_n and_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n and_o not_o by_o virtue_n of_o any_o spiritual_a power_n or_o other_o whatsoever_o derive_v from_o the_o church_n as_o pure_o a_o church_n because_o the_o church_n as_o such_o have_v neither_o territory_n nor_o sword_n &_o consequent_o no_o external_a criminal_a or_o civil_a judicatory_a with_o any_o external_a or_o temporal_a power_n of_o coaction_n or_o coercion_n proper_o such_o but_o only_o a_o spiritual_a power_n of_o mere_a spiritual_a censure_n which_o be_v but_o secundum_fw-la quid_fw-la or_o diminutive_o and_o improper_o call_v coercion_n or_o coaction_n for_o what_o belong_v to_o our_o purpose_n here_o but_o however_o this_o be_v or_o be_v not_o it_o be_v clear_a enough_o first_o that_o by_o no_o civil_a law_n of_o the_o roman_a emperor_n clerk_n have_v be_v ever_o yet_o at_o any_o time_n exempt_v in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n or_o from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n of_o his_o law_n which_o i_o take_v to_o be_v so_o absolute_o certain_a that_o bellarmine_n himself_o for_o proof_n of_o his_o three_o proposition_n which_o he_o have_v cap._n 28._o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr cler._n in_o these_o general_a word_n non_fw-la possunt_fw-la clericiâ—a_fw-la judicâ—_fw-la seculari_fw-la judicari_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la leges_fw-la civiles_fw-la non_fw-la servant_n have_v not_o the_o confidence_n to_o alleadg_n any_o other_o imperial_a or_o civil_a constitution_n but_o only_o those_o of_o the_o emperor_n justinian_n novel_n 79._o 83._o and_o 123._o where_o yet_o bellarmine_n confess_v this_o emperor_n decree_v no_o more_o but_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n and_o monk_n from_o secular_a that_o be_v lay_v judicatory_n in_o civil_a cause_n only_o and_o not_o in_o criminal_a nay_o confess_v that_o for_o criminal_a cause_n the_o same_o justinian_n particular_o and_o express_o decree_v in_o these_o very_a novel_n that_o clergieman_n be_v subject_a still_o to_o the_o lay_n or_o civil_a praetor_n jurisdiction_n with_o this_o caution_n only_o that_o judgement_n of_o death_n be_v not_o pronounce_v in_o the_o praetor_n court_n against_o a_o clerk_n before_o he_o be_v degrade_v by_o the_o bishop_n so_o that_o by_o the_o very_a concession_n and_o confession_n of_o bellarmine_n himself_o it_o be_v not_o only_o clear_a enough_o that_o no_o civil_a constitution_n can_v be_v produce_v for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o supreme_a lie_v power_n but_o also_o clear_a enough_o that_o no_o such_o can_v be_v plead_v for_o their_o exemption_n in_o such_o cause_n from_o all_o subordinate_a inferior_a lay_v court_n be_v the_o praetor_n court_n be_v a_o subordinate_a one_o at_o least_o unto_o the_o prince_n own_o supreme_a tribunal_n and_o be_v that_o bellarmine_n have_v confess_v this_o much_o of_o this_o law_n of_o justinians_n find_v no_o other_o civil_a institution_n for_o his_o purpose_n in_o criminal_a cause_n to_o allege_v but_o fly_v present_o to_o his_o ecclesiastical_a institution_n in_o that_o point_n say_v that_o albeit_o the_o civil_a law_n do_v not_o so_o exempt_a clerk_n in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o civil_a judicatories_n yet_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n do_v as_o say_v he_o appear_v clear_o out_o of_o the_o epistle_n of_o cain_n the_o pope_n to_o felix_n and_o out_o of_o the_o first_o epistle_n of_o marcellinus_n and_o also_o out_o of_o the_o xi_o book_n of_o gregory_n the_o great_v register_n epist_n 54._o ad_fw-la joannem_fw-la defensorem_fw-la and_o say_v further_o that_o the_o civil_a law_n must_v yield_v to_o the_o canon_n law_n 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power_n or_o law_n but_o have_v make_v themselves_o peculiar_a municipal_a law_n which_o yet_o albeit_o they_o be_v mere_o and_o proper_o civil_a law_n yet_o be_v they_o not_o the_o civil_a law_n whereof_o bellarmine_n treat_v and_o his_o other_o associate_n contend_v as_o we_o be_v sure_o they_o give_v more_o exemption_n to_o clerk_n either_o in_o criminal_a or_o civil_a cause_n than_o those_o of_o the_o roman_a emperor_n do_v but_o forasmuch_o as_o many_o of_o our_o clerk_n be_v ignorant_a of_o that_o spring_n of_o their_o exemption_n whatever_o this_o exemption_n true_o &_o ground_o be_v as_o other_o be_v no_o less_o ungrateful_a for_o not_o acknowledge_v it_o i_o will_v oblige_v those_o and_o check_v these_o by_o lay_v here_o before_o their_o eye_n the_o very_a first_o law_n &_o the_o several_a degree_n of_o they_o whereby_o they_o come_v by_o the_o mere_a favour_n of_o the_o roman_a emperor_n to_o that_o exemption_n from_o secular_a court_n which_o they_o have_v true_o ever_o 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submit_v to_o nomination_n and_o susception_n which_o public_a use_n require_v against_o the_o privilege_n grant_v they_o in_o reference_n to_o and_o
godliness_n piety_n zeal_n what_o they_o believe_v to_o be_v their_o own_o proper_a good_n how_o much_o more_o will_v they_o have_v abstain_v from_o usurp_a on_o those_o of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o which_o they_o have_v know_v themselves_o to_o have_v no_o kind_n of_o right_a second_o &_o forasmuch_o as_o depend_v of_o the_o testimony_n or_o authority_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n itself_o it_o be_v clear_a enough_o that_o clergieman_n have_v not_o only_o be_v original_o or_o sometime_o but_o have_v continue_v always_o or_o at_o all_o time_n since_o the_o very_a first_o of_o christianity_n be_v at_o present_a still_o subject_a to_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n &_o therefore_o not_o exempt_a from_o it_o for_o be_v it_o appear_v by_o these_o law_n that_o clergiemen_n be_v so_o first_o indistinct_o in_o all_o kind_n of_o politic_a matter_n subject_a or_o not_o exempt_v in_o any_o either_o from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a or_o subordinate_a civil_a and_o be_v further_o that_o none_o of_o 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the_o promulgation_n of_o that_o law_n albeit_o that_o at_o the_o same_o time_n or_o before_o he_o have_v so_o insinuate_v the_o iniquity_n of_o it_o what_o do_v he_o invent_v to_o rid_v himself_o out_o of_o this_o labyrinth_n he_o make_v gregory_n not_o the_o censor_n only_o but_o the_o corrector_n also_o and_o amender_n of_o this_o very_a law_n and_o so_o that_o gregory_n give_v thereby_o argument_n enough_o of_o his_o sacerdotal_a vigour_n pontifical_a authority_n and_o power_n too_o over_o the_o very_a empire_n itself_o dum_fw-la accedens_fw-la say_v baronius_n tom_n 8._o a_o 593._o nu_fw-la 21._o censor_n &_o arbyter_n constitutionis_fw-la imperatoriae_fw-la &_o admovens_fw-la ad_fw-la sacram_fw-la quam_fw-la vocabant_fw-la tabulam_fw-la stylum_fw-la edicti_fw-la illius_fw-la quaedam_fw-la addidit_fw-la jungent_fw-la ac_fw-la minuens_fw-la pro_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la ut_fw-la ad_fw-la rectam_fw-la catholicae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la normam_fw-la &_o disciplinam_fw-la aptaret_fw-la 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tantum_fw-la prophetae_fw-la pronunciatum_fw-la sed_fw-la omnibus_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la deo_fw-la ad_fw-la populum_fw-la divina_fw-la legatione_fw-la funguntur_fw-la constitui_fw-la te_fw-la hodie_fw-la super_fw-la gentes_fw-la &_o super_fw-la regna_fw-la ut_fw-la evellas_fw-la &_o destruas_fw-la &_o disperdas_fw-la &_o dissipes_fw-la &_o edifice_n &_o
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people_n in_o such_o matter_n according_a to_o what_o be_v from_o the_o beginning_n teach_v by_o which_o very_a consideration_n that_o constantine_n himself_o be_v very_o much_o induâ—ced_v â—o_o interess_n himself_o in_o these_o matter_n of_o faith_n even_o himself_o also_o write_v apud_fw-la â—arrâ—nium_fw-la tom_fw-mi 3._o a_o 313._o n._n 37._o lest_o otherwise_o he_o shall_v have_v see_v dangerous_a trouble_n and_o commotion_n in_o his_o empire_n and_o thence_o have_v suffer_v also_o very_o much_o in_o his_o reputation_n as_o not_o govern_v well_o or_o prudent_o or_o also_o as_o have_v imprudent_o embrace_v that_o religion_n who_o professor_n he_o can_v not_o keep_v in_o peace_n or_o unity_n among_o themselves_o of_o which_o consideration_n and_o judgement_n of_o constantine_n or_o rather_o of_o which_o power_n and_o authority_n of_o constantine_n or_o indeed_o of_o both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o st._n augustine_n speak_v ep_v 162._o where_o he_o write_v thus_o quasi_fw-la verò_fw-la ipse_fw-la sibi_fw-la he_o mean_v fellix_fw-la aptungitanus_n â—â—c_fw-la comparavit_fw-la ac_fw-la non_fw-la imperator_fw-la ita_fw-la quasi_fw-la jusserit_fw-la ad_fw-la cujus_fw-la curam_fw-la de_fw-la qua_fw-la rationem_fw-la deo_fw-la redditurus_fw-la esset_fw-la res_fw-la illa_fw-la maximè_fw-la pertinebat_fw-la but_o of_o this_o authority_n and_o superintendency_n in_o general_n of_o emperor_n king_n prince_n and_o other_o supreme_a temporal_a or_o politic_a state_n in_o and_o over_o the_o church_n or_o the_o spiritual_a or_o ecclesiastical_a both_o superior_n and_o inferior_n of_o the_o same_o christian_n catholic_n church_n this_o be_v not_o the_o proper_a place_n to_o treat_v at_o large_a it_o suffice_v at_o present_a to_o say_v that_o forasmuch_o as_o constantine_n do_v so_o and_o so_o often_o too_o interess_n himself_o in_o this_o cause_n of_o caecilian_a and_o depute_a judge_n to_o hear_v and_o determine_v it_o he_o do_v all_o this_o by_o the_o true_a proper_a genuine_a authority_n of_o a_o emperor_n and_o even_o of_o a_o christian_a emperor_n who_o duty_n it_o be_v when_o the_o ecclesiastic_n themselves_o alone_o can_v end_v or_o compose_v their_o own_o dissension_n that_o he_o by_o his_o own_o supreme_a authority_n assist_v and_o promote_v their_o agreement_n and_o even_o force_v they_o to_o a_o just_a and_o equitable_a agreement_n which_o the_o milevitan_a council_n approve_v in_o effect_n canone_o 19_o and_o ponitur_fw-la xi_o q._n 1._o c._n 11._o and_o in_o these_o term_n placuit_fw-la ut_fw-la quicumque_fw-la ab_fw-la imperatore_n cognitionem_fw-la judiciorum_fw-la publicorum_fw-la petierit_fw-la honore_fw-la proprio_fw-la privetur_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la episcopale_n judicium_fw-la ab_fw-la imperatore_n postulaverit_fw-la nihil_fw-la ei_fw-la obsit_fw-la but_o that_o constantine_n do_v in_o aftertime_n adorn_v and_o magnify_v the_o church_n or_o churchman_n with_o most_o singular_a and_o most_o ample_a privilege_n concern_v civil_a 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this_o confession_n that_o for_o neither_o of_o both_o parâ—s_n or_o both_o together_o the_o first_o proposition_n add_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o their_o remonstrance_n pag._n 30._o their_o second_o proposition_n liable_a to_o the_o same_o exception_n abstraction_n reservation_n equivocation_n and_o even_a distinction_n of_o the_o reduplicative_a and_o specificative_a sense_n ib._n their_o three_o proposition_n also_o how_o specious_a soever_o yet_o as_o from_o they_o be_v whole_o insignificant_a as_o be_v subject_a especial_o to_o the_o distinction_n of_o the_o reduplicative_a and_o specificative_a sense_n of_o fact_n and_o of_o right_a of_o humane_a or_o temporal_a and_o divine_a or_o spiritual_a yea_o of_o ordinary_a and_o extraordinary_a etc._n etc._n 31._o three_o argument_n in_o form_n 30._o proof_n that_o the_o three_o sorbon_n proposition_n both_o in_o themselves_o and_o as_o apply_v by_o the_o foresay_a congregation_n be_v liable_a rational_o to_o such_o construction_n 33._o four_o and_o five_o argument_n 34._o a_o evasion_n obviate_v 35._o the_o parisian_a censure_n of_o sanctarellus_n at_o length_n 35_o 36._o confirm_v by_o the_o seven_o other_o university_n of_o france_n 38._o in_o the_o four_o treatise_n contain_v answer_n to_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o congregation_n will_v not_o sign_n any_o of_o the_o three_o latter_a of_o the_o six_o sorbon_n declaration_n etc._n etc._n their_o title_n may_v not_o unground_o be_v turn_v to_o this_o other_o the_o jesuit_n reason_n unreasonable_a pag._n 39_o the_o three_o reject_a proposition_n or_o declaration_n 40._o the_o first_o paragraph_n of_o their_o paper_n of_o reason_n etc._n etc._n contain_v the_o first_o or_o rather_o only_o general_a reason_n allege_v by_o the_o congregation_n for_o reject_v they_o ib._n that_o general_a reason_n be_v in_o effect_n either_o the_o impertinency_n of_o all_o and_o each_o of_o the_o say_v four_o five_o and_o six_o of_o the_o six_o late_a sorbon_n declaration_n to_o assure_v 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or_o superfluous_o set_v down_o by_o so_o many_o learned_a and_o worthy_a man_n as_o be_v those_o 630._o bishop_n who_o compose_v or_o enact_v it_o we_o must_v also_o from_o hence_o rational_o conclude_v that_o the_o civil_a jurisdiction_n of_o even_o secular_a subordinat_a judge_n over_o the_o clergy_n be_v not_o weaken_v by_o this_o canon_n but_o rather_o confirm_v the_o three_o council_n in_o order_n of_o those_o allege_v by_o bellarmine_n be_v that_o of_o agatha_n or_o as_o other_o call_v it_o agde_v concilium_fw-la agathense_o hold_v in_o the_o year_n 506._o where_o the_o father_n convene_v there_o make_v this_o canon_n of_o discipline_n which_o be_v the_o two_o and_o thirty_o of_o this_o council_n clericus_fw-la nec_fw-la quenquam_fw-la praesumat_fw-la apud_fw-la secularem_fw-la judicem_fw-la episcopo_fw-la non_fw-la permittente_fw-la pulsare_fw-la sed_fw-la si_fw-la pulsatus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la non_fw-la respondeat_fw-la nec_fw-la proponat_fw-la nec_fw-la audeat_fw-la 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king_n or_o emperor_n so_o this_o author_n plead_v this_o exemption_n also_o of_o their_o good_n to_o be_v not_o only_o congruent_a but_o necessary_a and_o therefore_o conclude_v it_o power_n in_o the_o church_n as_o a_o church_n to_o make_v a_o law_n for_o it_o whether_o prince_n will_v or_o not_o and_o we_o must_v know_v that_o his_o ground_n he_o borrow_v from_o st._n thomas_n out_o certain_o make_v use_v of_o it_o or_o derive_v a_o conclusion_n from_o it_o against_o the_o mind_n of_o st._n thomas_n that_o st._n thomas_n in_o his_o commentary_n on_o the_o 13._o of_o the_o roman_n where_o he_o have_v it_o intend_v no_o more_o by_o it_o but_o to_o prove_v the_o natural_a equity_n of_o clerk_n be_v free_a by_o the_o privilege_n of_o prince_n from_o pay_v tribut_n but_o express_o deny_v a_o necessity_n for_o such_o freedom_n that_o this_o to_o be_v the_o mind_n and_o word_n of_o st._n thomas_n appear_v plain_o out_o of_o the_o testimony_n of_o franciscus_n victoria_n relect._n 1._o de_fw-fr potest_fw-la eccles._n sect_n 7._o prop._n 2._o where_o he_o write_v thus_o clerici_fw-la sunt_fw-la exempti_fw-la a_o tributis_fw-la non_fw-la jure_fw-la divino_fw-la sed_fw-la priâ—ulegio_fw-la principuâ—_n hoc_fw-la express_v dicit_fw-la d._n thomas_n super_fw-la illum_fw-la locum_fw-la roman_n 13._o ideo_fw-la enim_fw-la &_o tributa_fw-la praestatis_fw-la et_fw-la dicit_fw-la hanc_fw-la exemptionem_fw-la habere_fw-la equitatem_fw-la quamâ—â—â—_n non_fw-la autem_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la that_o final_o however_o this_o be_v certain_o true_a yet_o soto_n infer_v out_o of_o that_o reason_n of_o st._n thomas_n not_o a_o congruency_n but_o a_o necessity_n for_o as_o we_o have_v see_v before_o thus_o he_o discourse_v whereas_o tribut_n custom_n and_o other_o public_a tax_n be_v pay_v to_o king_n for_o their_o maintenance_n and_o as_o a_o reward_n or_o satisfaction_n for_o the_o labour_n they_o undergo_v in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o whereas_o 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the_o roman_n that_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n clerk_n be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o pay_v tribute_n understand_v you_o if_o not_o dispense_v with_o by_o the_o prince_n therefore_o in_o his_o doctrine_n it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o they_o do_v not_o pay_v tribute_n and_o consequent_o in_o his_o doctrine_n it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o the_o church_n have_v power_n to_o exempt_a clerk_n from_o tribute_n whether_o prince_n will_v or_o not_o moreover_o and_o for_o the_o natural_a equity_n or_o congruity_n itself_o which_o we_o confess_v may_v be_v for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n from_o tribute_n allege_v out_o of_o st._n thomas_n and_o with_o due_a restriction_n plead_v also_o from_o natural_a reason_n do_v either_o tell_v we_o of_o soto_n even_o sole_a congruency_n for_o such_o exemption_n to_o be_v make_v by_o the_o sole_a power_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o rather_o by_o the_o prince_n themselves_o or_o will_v not_o this_o allegation_n of_o natural_a equity_n 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be_v convenient_a for_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o also_o consequent_o if_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n be_v so_o convenient_a this_o republic_n may_v enact_v law_n for_o such_o exemption_n i_o answer_v 1._o that_o for_o this_o which_o be_v a_o republic_n to_o be_v perfect_a and_o sufficient_a or_o simple_o to_o the_o perfection_n and_o sufficiency_n of_o a_o republic_n be_v not_o require_v that_o it_o may_v enact_v all_o such_o law_n as_o make_v for_o its_o great_a splendour_n and_o glory_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v necessary_a for_o its_o be_v safety_n and_o condition_n and_o that_o i_o have_v show_v already_o here_o in_o this_o section_n that_o law_n of_o ecclesiastical_a exemption_n be_v not_o such_o that_o be_v be_v not_o necessary_a for_o its_o being_n etc._n etc._n nay_o or_o either_o for_o its_o well_o be_v safety_n and_o condition_n as_o it_o drive_v to_o its_o own_o proper_a end_n 2._o and_o that_o if_o this_o be_v not_o admit_v 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may_v upon_o the_o same_o ground_n exempt_v such_o minister_n from_o secular_a iudicatories_n the_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o reason_n be_v vain_a first_o because_o we_o know_v that_o no_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o be_v a_o clerk_n not_o even_o albeit_o the_o pope_n shall_v elect_v or_o appoint_v he_o for_o clerkship_n or_o which_o be_v that_o i_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o pope_n power_n to_o fix_v on_o this_o or_o that_o mere_a layman_n and_o force_n or_o command_v he_o to_o clerkship_n at_o least_o to_o such_o clerkship_n as_o have_v so_o many_o burden_n annex_v to_o it_o by_o the_o positive_a canon_n of_o the_o church_n only_o although_o i_o confess_v it_o be_v in_o the_o pope_n power_n as_o belong_v proper_o to_o his_o office_n to_o choose_v out_o of_o the_o whole_a number_n of_o such_o as_o free_o offer_v themselves_o who_o he_o shall_v think_v fit_a and_o have_v these_o order_v and_o appoint_v minister_n of_o the_o church_n second_o because_o we_o know_v and_o that_o 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only_o such_o cause_n as_o be_v mere_o ecclesiastical_a that_o peter_n martyr_n in_o cap._n 13._o add_v roman_n not_o only_o teach_v the_o very_a same_o but_o further_a add_v that_o prince_n can_v not_o give_v clerk_n the_o privilege_n to_o be_v exempt_a from_o or_o not_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o politic_a magistrate_n because_o say_v martyr_n this_o will_v be_v against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o that_o notwithstanding_o any_o concession_n of_o prince_n clerk_n ought_v always_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o secular_a magistrate_n and_o that_o joannes_n brentius_n in_o prologamâ—nis_n and_o melanchthon_n in_o locis_fw-la cap._n the_o magistrate_n subject_a ecclesiastic_n to_o the_o secular_a tribunal_n even_o in_o matter_n and_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a but_o who_o be_v so_o weak_a as_o to_o be_v fright_v from_o any_o truth_n because_o maintain_v also_o or_o assert_v by_o some_o liar_n or_o who_o know_v not_o that_o all_o both_o heretic_n and_o arch-heretic_n too_o join_v with_o the_o most_o orthodox_n in_o many_o both_o philosophical_a and_o theological_a natural_a and_o moral_a divine_a and_o humane_a position_n and_o even_o in_o very_a many_o of_o the_o most_o precise_a uncontroverted_a revelation_n of_o christian_a faith_n must_v it_o be_v suspect_v to_o be_v a_o christian_a truth_n that_o jesus_n christ_n be_v the_o messiah_n promise_v that_o he_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n that_o there_o be_v three_o person_n in_o the_o godhead_n that_o there_o be_v some_o sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o christ_n be_v bear_v of_o a_o virgin_n that_o he_o suffer_v for_o mankind_n that_o he_o shall_v come_v to_o judge_v the_o quick_a and_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n must_v i_o say_v any_o of_o these_o be_v suspect_v not_o to_o say_v reject_v because_o melanchthon_n or_o brentius_n or_o martyr_n or_o even_o calvin_n himself_o or_o luther_n believe_v and_o maintain_v they_o against_o other_o heretic_n if_o therefore_o they_o or_o any_o 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