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A77739 A confutation of the Anabaptists, and all others who affect not civill government; proving the lawfullnesse of it: and a full answer to all their cavills, that are, or can be made against it. With a nut-cracker for an unnaturall nut, whose shell is as hard as the scales of Leviathan, and the kernell of his heart as hard as a piece of the nether mill-stone, Iob 41.15.24. yet the hammer of Gods word that breaketh in pieces the rocks, Ier. 23.29. will break this nut, that all may see the devillish kernell that is in it. Also arguments against the Anabaptists, proving that infants borne of Christian parents ought to be baptized: with a full answer to all their cavills that are (or can be) made against it. Imprimatur Ja. Cranford. Bakewell, Thomas, b. 1618 or 19. 1644 (1644) Wing B530; Thomason E51_20; ESTC R209932 98,225 89

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all_o the_o state_n and_o peer_n of_o the_o land_n see_v chap._n 23.1_o 2._o he_o indeed_o be_v chief_o name_v because_o he_o be_v the_o chief_a of_o they_o in_o blood_n neither_o do_v he_o set_v up_o joash_n but_o help_v to_o maintain_v his_o right_n which_o be_v usurp_v by_o athaliah_n in_o a_o word_n he_o protect_v the_o right_a heir_n but_o can_v not_o himself_o depose_v nor_o make_v over_o the_o kingdom_n unto_o he_o hence_o i_o conclude_v that_o to_o exempt_v the_o clergy_n from_o under_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v rebellion_n four_o they_o object_v that_o king_n and_o prince_n of_o their_o bounty_n have_v grant_v these_o privilege_n unto_o they_o i_o answer_v the_o law_n of_o nature_n acknowledge_v a_o civil_a subjection_n and_o the_o law_n of_o god_n straight_o command_v it_o say_v let_v every_o soul_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o high_a power_n rom._n 13._o and_o put_v they_o in_o mind_n to_o be_v subject_a to_o principality_n and_o power_n to_o obey_v magistrate_n and_o to_o be_v ready_a to_o every_o good_a work_n titus_n 2.1_o then_o i_o conclude_v hence_o that_o no_o law_n of_o any_o man_n may_v offer_v violence_n or_o derogate_v from_o either_o of_o these_o five_o they_o object_n from_o jer._n 1.10_o where_o the_o lord_n say_v i_o have_v set_v thou_o over_o nation_n and_o kingdom_n to_o plant_v and_o to_o pluck_v up_o hence_o they_o gather_v that_o the_o prophet_n and_o their_o successor_n be_v not_o to_o be_v subject_a unto_o civil_a government_n i_o answer_v the_o prophet_n be_v set_v over_o nation_n and_o kingdom_n but_o not_o to_o govern_v by_o the_o civil_a sword_n but_o by_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o spirit_n in_o his_o mouth_n and_o he_o be_v to_o plant_v and_o pluck_v up_o kingdom_n not_o otherwise_o then_o by_o declare_v that_o god_n will_v plant_v or_o pluck_v they_o up_o six_o they_o object_n from_o isa_n 60.10_o that_o king_n shall_v come_v and_o serve_v the_o church_n under_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o therefore_o the_o church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o prince_n but_o they_o unto_o the_o church_n i_o answer_v in_o the_o church_n be_v two_o thing_n first_o the_o person_n of_o man_n second_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n now_o it_o be_v true_a that_o king_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n in_o the_o church_n as_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n to_o these_o ordinance_n of_o god_n no_o calling_n be_v exempt_v say_v paul_n ourselves_o be_v servant_n for_o jesus_n sake_n but_o to_o the_o first_o of_o these_o which_o be_v the_o person_n of_o believer_n to_o these_o king_n and_o magistrate_n be_v not_o subject_a but_o to_o this_o very_a question_n when_o some_o servant_n be_v convert_v when_o they_o live_v under_o infidel_n master_n they_o think_v themselves_o by_o this_o spiritual_a calling_n to_o be_v free_v from_o serve_v their_o master_n any_o long_o but_o say_v paul_n let_v every_o man_n abide_v in_o the_o same_o call_n wherein_o he_o be_v call_v be_v thou_o call_v to_o the_o 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from_o any_o man_n although_o he_o be_v never_o so_o wicked_a so_o it_o be_v with_o place_n of_o master_n or_o magistrate_n although_o never_o so_o wicked_a yet_o while_o they_o be_v in_o it_o we_o ought_v to_o yield_v obedience_n to_o they_o for_o say_v peter_z cervant_n be_v subject_a to_o your_o master_n with_o all_o fear_n now_o mark_n not_o only_o to_o the_o good_a and_o gentle_a but_o also_o to_o the_o froward_a 1_o pet._n 2.18_o seven_o they_o object_v that_o king_n and_o magistrate_n be_v as_o sheep_n and_o minister_n be_v as_o pastor_n and_o shepherd_n therefore_o say_v they_o king_n be_v under_o minister_n as_o the_o flock_n be_v under_o the_o shepherd_n i_o answer_v in_o the_o prophet_n or_o pastor_n consider_v two_o thing_n first_o their_o person_n second_o their_o ministry_n now_o in_o regard_n of_o their_o person_n all_o of_o they_o be_v subject_a to_o their_o prince_n and_o that_o for_o conscience_n sake_n but_o in_o regard_n of_o their_o ministry_n prince_n and_o 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be_v call_v shepherd_n the_o lord_n say_v cyrus_n be_v my_o shepherd_n isa_n 44.28_o though_o otherwise_o he_o be_v a_o sheep_n so_o far_o as_o he_o be_v true_o teach_v by_o the_o minister_n for_o they_o may_v say_v to_o the_o king_n and_o to_o the_o queen_n humble_v yourselves_o jer._n 14.18_o and_o herod_n fear_v john_n and_o do_v many_o thing_n and_o hear_v he_o glad_o mark_v 6.20_o thus_o we_o see_v that_o all_o man_n be_v to_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o magistracy_n or_o civil_a government_n and_o to_o the_o positive_a law_n of_o the_o land_n now_o the_o romish_a clergy_n be_v not_o enemy_n to_o civil_a government_n as_o it_o be_v government_n but_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o civil_a magistrate_n so_o that_o their_o drift_n be_v not_o to_o put_v it_o down_o but_o to_o remove_v it_o from_o the_o magistrate_n to_o themselves_o that_o they_o may_v make_v all_o magistrate_n their_o vassal_n second_o profane_a people_n do_v allow_v of_o civil_a government_n in_o 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