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labour_n of_o you_o be_v lose_v for_o you_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o which_o no_o man_n deni_v chap._n 6._o the_o twelve_o division_n t._n c._n page_n 37._o sect._n 4._o another_o of_o the_o famous_a counsel_n call_v the_o council_n of_o constantinople_n which_o be_v gather_v under_o theodosius_n y_fw-fr e_o great_z as_o it_o be_v witness_v by_o the_o tripartite_a story_n in_o a_o epistle_n which_o it_o write_v 19_o lib._n 9_o cap._n 19_o to_o damasus_n the_o pope_n and_o ambrose_n and_o other_o say_v thus_o we_o have_v ordain_v nectarius_n the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n with_o the_o whole_a consent_n of_o the_o council_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o the_o emperor_n theodosius_n belove_v of_o god_n the_o whole_a city_n together_o decree_a the_o same_o likewise_o he_o say_v that_o flanian_n be_v appoint_v by_o that_o synod_n bishop_n of_o antioch_n the_o whole_a people_n appoint_v he_o io._n whitgifte_n the_o word_n in_o that_o epistle_n both_o as_o the_o tripartite_a 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people_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o province_n and_o especial_o either_o by_o the_o authority_n or_o presence_n of_o the_o metropolitan_a and_o in_o the_o toletane_a council_n as_o it_o appear_v in_o the._n 51._o distinction_n it_o be_v thus_o ordain_v let_v not_o he_o be_v count_v a_o priest_n of_o the_o church_n for_o so_o they_o speak_v who_o neither_o the_o clergy_n nor_o people_n of_o that_o city_n where_o he_o be_v a_o priest_n do_v choose_v nor_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o metropolitan_a and_o other_o priest_n in_o that_o province_n have_v seek_v after_o moreover_o concilium_fw-la gabilonense_n which_o be_v hold_v anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 650._o in_o the_o ten_o canon_n have_v this_o if_o any_o bishop_n after_o the_o death_n of_o his_o predecessor_n be_v choose_v of_o any_o but_o of_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o same_o province_n ▪_o and_o of_o the_o clergy_n and_o citizen_n let_v another_o be_v choose_v and_o if_o it_o be_v otherwise_o let_v that_o ordination_n be_v account_v of_o none_o effect_n all_o which_o counsel_n prove_v manifest_o that_o as_o the_o people_n in_o their_o election_n have_v the_o minister_n round_o about_o or_o synod_n and_o counsel_n direct_v they_o so_o there_o be_v none_o come_v to_o be_v over_o the_o people_n but_o by_o their_o voice_n and_o consent_n io._n whitgifte_n this_o which_o be_v affirm_v of_o these_o counsel_n be_v confess_v to_o be_v true_a but_o not_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o the_o people_n consent_n be_v require_v at_o any_o time_n or_o no_o but_o whether_o it_o must_v be_v require_v at_o all_o time_n chap._n 6._o the._n fourteen_o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 45._o sect._n 4._o this_o alteration_n of_o government_n and_o order_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v well_o set_v out_o by_o ambrose_n in_o the._n 4._o to_o the_o ephe._n upon_o these_o word_n et_fw-la ipse_fw-la dedit_fw-la etc._n etc._n where_o he_o say_v on_o this_o sort_n that_o the_o number_n of_o christian_n ambrose_n ambrose_n may_v increase_v and_o be_v multiply_v in_o the_o beginning_n it_o be_v permit_v to_o every_o one_o to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o baptise_v and_o to_o expound_v the_o scripture_n but_o when_o the_o church_n be_v enlarge_v there_o be_v certain_a parish_n appoint_v and_o governoure_v and_o other_o officer_n ordain_v in_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o write_n of_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o in_o all_o thing_n agree_v with_o the_o order_n that_o be_v now_o in_o the_o church_n thus_o far_o ambrose_n t._n c._n pag._n 38._o sect._n 1_o indeed_o if_o you_o put_v such_o dark_a colour_n upon_o the_o apostle_n church_n as_o this_o be_v it_o be_v no_o marvel_n if_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v a_o patron_n to_o we_o of_o frame_v and_o fashion_v our_o church_n after_o it_o but_o o_o lord_n who_o can_v patient_o hear_v this_o horrible_a disorder_n ascribe_v to_o the_o apostle_n church_n which_o
believe_v that_o when_o some_o other_o not_o only_o such_o as_o you_o mean_v but_o such_o as_o you_o least_o think_v of_o shall_v understande_v the_o depth_n of_o your_o opinion_n together_o with_o the_o strangeness_n untruth_n da_o gerousnesse_n &_o other_o circumstance_n join_v with_o they_o they_o will_v think_v that_o i_o have_v speak_v or_o write_v nothing_o either_o untrue_o or_o unnecessary_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o discharge_v my_o conscience_n and_o duty_n and_o so_o will_v do_v god_n will_v as_o long_o as_o i_o can_v either_o speak_v or_o write_v chap._n 7._o the_o eight_o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n page_n 239._o sect._n 4._o i_o here_o omit_v that_o which_o i_o may_v as_o just_o bring_v for_o this_o kind_n of_o apparel_n as_o you_o do_v for_o sit_v at_o the_o communion_n i_o mean_v a_o fit_a &_o profitable_a signification_n whereof_o m._n martyr_n speak_v in_o the_o epistle_n before_o mention_v on_o this_o sort_n i_o will_v not_o here_o say_v that_o 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lord_n say_v six_o day_n thou_o may_v labour_v if_o thou_o will_v to_o say_v thou_o shall_v not_o labour_v six_o day_n i_o do_v not_o see_v why_o the_o church_n may_v not_o as_o well_o where_o as_o the_o lord_n say_v thou_o shall_v rest_v the_o seven_o day_n command_v that_o thou_o shall_v not_o rest_v the_o seven_o day_n for_o if_o the_o church_n may_v restrain_v the_o liberty_n that_o god_n have_v give_v they_o it_o may_v take_v away_o the_o yoke_n also_o that_o god_n have_v put_v upon_o they_o io._n whitgifte_n the_o church_n be_v not_o abridge_v of_o her_o liberty_n in_o this_o point_n but_o use_v her_o liberty_n in_o appoint_v some_o of_o these_o day_n to_o the_o worship_v of_o god_n and_o the_o instruction_n of_o his_o people_n which_o shall_v not_o be_v count_v a_o bondage_n or_o servitude_n to_o any_o man_n to_o rest_v the_o seven_o day_n be_v command_v to_o labour_v six_o day_n be_v but_o permit_v he_o that_o for_o bid_v rest_n on_o the_o seven_o day_n do_v direct_o against_o 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it_o be_v say_v tell_v 17_o tell_v math._n 18._o 17_o the_o church_n now_o it_o be_v speak_v complain_v to_o my_o lord_n grace_n primate_n and_o metropolitan_a of_o all_o england_n or_o to_o his_o inferior_a my_o lord_n bishop_n of_o the_o diocese_n if_o not_o to_o he_o show_v the_o chancellor_n or_o official_a or_o commissary_n or_o doctor_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 135._o sect._n 1_o as_o it_o be_v say_v then_o so_o ought_v you_o and_o may_v you_o say_v now_o in_o private_a offence_n if_o private_a admonition_n will_v not_o serve_v then_o must_v you_o declare_v they_o to_o the_o church_n either_o by_o reprehend_v of_o they_o public_o before_o the_o whole_a congregation_n if_o you_o be_v call_v thereunto_o for_o that_o be_v church_n church_n signify_v those_o that_o have_v authority_n in_o the_o church_n one_o kind_n of_o tell_v the_o church_n or_o else_o by_o complain_v to_o such_o as_o have_v authority_n in_o the_o church_n for_o in_o that_o place_n of_o mathewe_n as_o all_o learned_a interpreter_n both_o old_a and_o new_a do_v determine_v the_o church_n signify_v such_o as_o have_v authority_n in_o the_o church_n therefore_o when_o you_o complain_v to_o my_o lord_n grace_n lord_n bishop_n of_o the_o diocese_n or_o their_o chauncellor_n commissary_n etc._n etc._n you_o tell_v the_o church_n that_o be_v such_o as_o be_v appoint_v to_o be_v public_a magistrate_n in_o the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o very_a true_a sense_n and_o interpretation_n of_o that_o place_n t._n c._n pag._n 146._o sect._n ult._n it_o be_v most_o absurd_o say_v of_o m._n doctor_n in_o the._n 135._o page_n that_o by_o the_o church_n be_v understand_v either_o my_o lord_n grace_n or_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o diocese_n or_o the_o chancellor_n or_o commissary_n and_o that_o when_o a_o man_n complain_v unto_o one_o of_o these_o he_o may_v be_v well_o say_v to_o complain_v unto_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o more_o untollerable_a for_o that_o be_v so_o strange_a a_o 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office_n and_o function_n but_o remember_v i_o pray_v you_o what_o you_o say_v before_o in_o the_o treatise_n of_o seni_fw-la r_n you_o divis_fw-la t._n c._n must_v 〈◊〉_d the_fw-mi di_fw-mi send_v from_o beza_n or_o grant_v the_o controversy_n tract_n 17._o cap._n divis_fw-la there_o set_v it_o down_o that_o they_o be_v ecclesiastical_a person_n and_o yet_o m._n beza_n as_o i_o have_v there_o declare_v say_v that_o noble_a man_n and_o prince_n may_v be_v of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d wherefore_o either_o may_v civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a office_n meet_v together_o in_o eccle_n icall_a person_n which_o you_o deny_v or_o else_o can_v not_o noble_a man_n and_o prince_n be_v of_o your_o signiory_n as_o m._n beza_n affirm_v or_o if_o they_o be_v of_o your_o 〈◊〉_d they_o must_v cast_v off_o their_o baronry_n earldom_n and_o civil_a dominion_n which_o i_o be_o sure_a they_o will_v not_o or_o else_o to_o conclude_v your_o assertion_n be_v strange_a and_o your_o s_n lorie_n con_v use_v i_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o many_o of_o the_o nobility_n and_o gen_n rye_n of_o this_o realm_n be_v more_o fit_n for_o these_o thing_n than_o ecclesiastical_a man_n be_v neither_o can_v i_o be_v persuade_v but_o that_o they_o consider_v how_o expedient_a it_o be_v notwithstanding_o that_o such_o function_n be_v commit_v to_o some_o of_o the_o clergy_n and_o i_o be_o well_o assure_v that_o they_o can_v not_o but_o easy_o espy_v the_o deformity_n &_o confusion_n that_o your_o platform_n will_v bring_v to_o this_o monarchy_n chap._n 2._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 168._o lin._n 2._o and_o if_o so_o be_v that_o there_o fall_v out_o any_o question_n at_o any_o time_n which_o be_v to_o be_v decide_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o wherein_o the_o advyse_n of_o the_o minister_n be_v needful_a there_o the_o minister_n help_n may_v and_o 9_o esra_n 9_o ought_v to_o be_v require_v for_o thereof_o we_o have_v not_o only_o a_o example_n in_o yourself_o in_o this_o place_n make_v against_o yourself_o esra_n where_o the_o prince_n 19_o deut._n 19_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o difficulty_n come_v and_o ask_v the_o counsel_n of_o esra_n but_o we_o have_v a_o plain_a commandment_n in_o moses_n by_o the_o lord_n who_o command_v that_o the_o cause_n of_o perjury_n shall_v be_v hear_v before_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o sanctuary_n at_o the_o hear_n whereof_o the_o high_a priest_n shall_v be_v present_a by_o which_o commandment_n the_o lord_n do_v not_o by_o bring_v this_o cause_n into_o the_o sanctuar_n e_o declare_v that_o the_o judgement_n thereof_o do_v apperteyne_a unto_o the_o ecclesiastical_a court_n but_o because_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n which_o touch_v the_o glory_n of_o god_n very_o express_o he_o will_v have_v the_o prince_n which_o be_v judge_n there_o to_o be_v the_o near_o touch_v and_o the_o deepely_o affect_v with_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n whereof_o they_o sau_fw-mi e_fw-la the_o sacrament_n before_o their_o eye_n neither_o be_v the_o high_a priest_n command_v to_o be_v present_a to_o this_o end_n ▪_o that_o he_o shall_v sit_v as_o judge_v of_o that_o matter_n but_o that_o he_o may_v dissolve_v the_o difficulty_n if_o any_o rose_n of_o the_o understanding_n of_o the_o law_n and_o that_o he_o may_v prick_v forward_o and_o stir_v up_o by_o admonition_n ▪_o the_o prince_n to_o who_o the_o judgement_n apperteyn_v if_o so_o be_v he_o shall_v see_v they_o cold_a and_o slack_a to_o revenge_v the_o injury_v do_v unto_o the_o lord_n which_o thing_n may_v the_o better_o appear_v in_o that_o the_o handle_n of_o the_o matter_n be_v there_o appoint_v not_o unto_o the_o priest_n but_o unto_o the_o judge_n or_o prince_n only_o and_o so_o likewise_o of_o matrimony_n and_o divorce_n although_o the_o judgement_n thereof_o apperteyne_a unto_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n yet_o the_o minister_n if_o there_o be_v any_o difficulty_n in_o know_v when_o it_o be_v a_o lawful_a contract_n and_o when_o the_o divorce_n be_v lawful_a may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v consult_v 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eightenth_fw-mi chapter_n say_v that_o equal_a power_n and_o function_n be_v give_v unto_o all_o the_o minister_n of_o of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o from_o the_o begin_n no_o one_o prefer_v himself_o to_o a_o other_o save_v only_o that_o for_o order_n some_o one_o do_v call_v they_o together_o propound_v the_o matter_n that_o be_v to_o be_v consult_v of_o and_o gather_v the_o voice_n etc._n etc._n io._n whitgifte_n the_o word_n of_o the_o confession_n in_o the._n 17._o chapter_n be_v these_o true_o christ_n be_v present_a with_o his_o church_n and_o be_v a_o lyve_a head_n who_o straight_o forbid_v his_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n to_o challenge_v the_o primacy_n or_o supremacy_n in_o the_o church_n this_o the_o confession_n speak_v of_o such_o primacy_n &_o supremacy_n as_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n do_v challenge_v over_o the_o whole_a church_n for_o in_o that_o place_n it_o only_o speak_v of_o the_o pope_n usurp_a authority_n and_o not_o one_o word_n of_o that_o 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the_o magistrate_n commandment_n herein_o be_v that_o minister_n shall_v not_o go_v either_o dissolute_o or_o disorderly_a and_o not_o rather_o that_o all_o minister_n shall_v use_v that_o form_n of_o decent_a apparel_n whereby_o they_o may_v in_o one_o uniform_a order_n agree_v ámong_a themselves_o and_o differ_v from_o other_o state_n of_o people_n in_o her_o dominion_n if_o you_o mean_v upright_o you_o will_v not_o so_o often_o deal_v in_o this_o order_n chap._n 3._o the._n 2._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 55._o sect._n 1_o judge_n sergeant_n alderman_n and_o citizen_n be_v know_v by_o their_o apparel_n and_o why_o may_v not_o minister_n be_v so_o likewise_o be_v they_o not_o under_o subjection_n be_v they_o not_o subject_a to_o civil_a law_n and_o ordinance_n aught_o they_o not_o to_o obey_v their_o governor_n in_o all_o thing_n not_o against_o the_o word_n of_o god_n t._n c._n pag._n 54._o sect._n 2._o and_o whereas_o you_o will_v prove_v that_o it_o may_v 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