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A77726 An answer, or confutation of divers errors broached, and maintained by the seven churches of Anabaptists contained in those articles of their confession of faith propounded to the Parliament, and other grosse opinions held by them against the cleare light of the gospell. By Thomas Bakewell. Imprimatur John Downham. Bakewell, Thomas, b. 1618 or 19. 1646 (1646) Wing B526; Thomason E336_10; ESTC R200810 49,330 53

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church_n will_v not_o be_v in_o so_o safe_a a_o condition_n now_o as_o it_o be_v under_o the_o old_a testament_n four_o king_n and_o queen_n must_v be_v as_o nurse_n father_n and_o mother_n to_o the_o church_n esay_n 49.22_o but_o shall_v king_n and_o queen_n have_v no_o authority_n about_o the_o church_n when_o they_o lend_v their_o power_n to_o assist_v it_o and_o shall_v father_n and_o mother_n have_v no_o command_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n and_o shall_v nurse_n have_v no_o power_n to_o feed_v their_o child_n jehoshophat_n send_v minister_n to_o teach_v in_o judah_n and_o say_v the_o lord_n cyrus_n be_v my_o shepherd_n then_o shall_v not_o he_o defend_v the_o church_n as_o a_o shepherd_n do_v his_o flock_n david_n feed_v they_o according_a to_o the_o integrity_n of_o his_o heart_n and_o guide_v they_o by_o the_o skillfulness_n of_o his_o hand_n psal_n 78.72_o but_o while_o the_o lord_n look_v for_o a_o man_n to_o make_v up_o the_o hedge_n ezek._n 22.30_o and_o say_v he_o shall_v be_v call_v the_o repairer_n of_o the_o breach_n esay_n 58.12_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n these_o man_n throw_v open_v the_o gap_n to_o the_o raven_a lion_n which_o show_v how_o insufferable_a they_o be_v in_o any_o christian_a church_n yea_o they_o be_v but_o like_a viper_n both_o to_o church_n and_o state_n five_o prince_n in_o scripture_n be_v call_v saviour_n to_o zion_n and_o such_o be_v foretell_v to_o be_v in_o our_o day_n obad._n 21._o but_o how_o can_v they_o be_v saviour_n to_o our_o church_n when_o they_o must_v neither_o command_v obedience_n nor_o punish_v those_o that_o oppose_v it_o but_o god_n command_v to_o punish_v those_o that_o entice_v other_o to_o idolatry_n deut._n 13.6_o if_o they_o do_v not_o they_o be_v guilty_a of_o other_o man_n sin_n 1_o tim._n 5.22_o and_o they_o carry_v the_o sword_n in_o vain_a rom._n 13.4_o and_o god_n will_v have_v something_o against_o they_o for_o suffering_n jezabel_n to_o seduce_v the_o servant_n of_o god_n and_o for_o 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judgement_n and_o justice_n gen._n 18._o and_o we_o must_v obey_v for_o conscience_n sake_n rom._n 13.7_o but_o not_o bring_v the_o conscience_n in_o obedience_n to_o man_n precept_n but_o we_o must_v obey_v man_n in_o conscience_n of_o obedience_n unto_o god_n that_o command_v it_o tit._n 3.1_o then_o let_v they_o take_v heed_n how_o they_o despise_v government_n but_o then_o because_o the_o magistrate_n power_n be_v a_o burden_n to_o this_o man_n and_o he_o will_v fain_o ease_v himself_o of_o it_o therefore_o he_o propound_v some_o query_n 1_o he_o will_v know_v whether_o the_o whole_a ground_n of_o the_o jew_n worship_n for_o matter_n and_o form_n be_v not_o in_o plain_a precept_n and_o commandment_n and_o teach_v they_o by_o the_o prophet_n as_o they_o have_v immediate_o receive_v it_o of_o the_o lord_n to_o this_o i_o grant_v affirmative_o that_o it_o be_v so_o but_o then_o he_o will_v know_v whether_o any_o ruler_n governor_n or_o king_n of_o judah_n either_o do_v or_o lawful_o 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