out_o themselves_o accord_n to_o your_o divine_a suffrage_n conspirator_n and_o wicked_a man_n shall_v of_o their_o own_o accord_n drive_v themselves_o out_o of_o the_o church_n he_o here_o call_v the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o people_n divine_a not_o because_o infallible_a but_o because_o it_o be_v according_a to_o scripture_n that_o they_o shall_v have_v their_o vote_n again_o they_o alone_o bear_v the_o punishment_n of_o their_o conspiracy_n who_o former_o according_a to_o your_o suffrage_n now_o according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n have_v deserve_v to_o undergo_v the_o sentence_n of_o their_o conspiracy_n and_o perverseness_n to_o the_o same_o people_n about_o the_o business_n of_o the_o lapse_v in_o general_a for_o receive_v or_o still_o refuse_v they_o cyprian_n declare_v his_o hope_n short_o to_o be_v restore_v together_o with_o his_o fellow_n minister_n who_o be_v present_a say_v he_o according_a to_o your_o judgement_n either_o way_n arbitrium_fw-la likewise_o and_o 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scandalous_a sinner_n to_o personal_a leaven_n malice_n and_o wickedness_n v._o 8.4_o the_o same_o to_o who_o he_o give_v direction_n for_o avoid_v familiar_a society_n with_o a_o scandalous_a brother_n interpret_n the_o meaning_n of_o a_o former_a epistle_n v._o 9_o 10_o 11._o they_o be_v to_o judge_v of_o those_o within_o v._o 12._o and_o put_v away_o from_o among_o themselves_o that_o wicked_a person_n v._o 13._o second_o for_o lose_v 2_o cor._n 2._o the_o same_o who_o he_o have_v former_o make_v heavy_a v._o 1_o 2._o by_o rebuke_v in_o the_o former_a epistle_n that_o from_o their_o obedience_n and_o repentance_n he_o may_v have_v much_o joy_n of_o they_o when_o he_o shall_v come_v to_o they_o v._o 3_o 4._o who_o in_o part_n he_o clear_v v._o 5._o they_o be_v the_o many_o by_o who_o the_o incestuous_a person_n be_v rebuke_v v._n 6._o and_o they_o be_v to_o forgive_v and_o comfort_v he_o five_o 7.8_o the_o same_o to_o who_o the_o apostle_n write_v to_o make_v proof_n of_o their_o 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as_o sometime_o our_o prelate_n and_o their_o creature_n be_v wont_a to_o do_v pass_v sentence_n of_o excommunication_n for_o refuse_v impious_a ceremony_n or_o the_o like_a if_o they_o shall_v not_o withdraw_v the_o end_n be_v not_o obtain_v the_o sentence_n not_o obey_v but_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n have_v so_o institute_v this_o or_o any_o other_o ordinance_n be_v to_o tax_v his_o wisdom_n and_o holiness_n quest_n suppose_v some_o few_o apprehend_v the_o sentence_n unrighteous_a what_o shall_v they_o do_v answ_n modest_o declare_v their_o dissent_n and_o for_o their_o part_n forbear_v to_o act_v it_o 5._o that_o the_o church_n or_o brotherhood_n have_v some_o share_n in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n appear_v by_o her_o honourable_a relation_n to_o christ_n the_o elder_n be_v steward_n but_o the_o church_n be_v his_o wife_n object_n that_o be_v the_o universal_a church_n ans_fw-fr every_o particular_a church_n or_o company_n of_o combine_a saint_n have_v the_o whole_a nature_n 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application_n the_o honour_n of_o circumcision_n seal_v up_o the_o jew_n into_o god_n family_n have_v reflection_n upon_o their_o woman_n they_o be_v of_o the_o circumcision_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o gentile_n who_o be_v the_o uncircumcision_n though_o they_o can_v not_o be_v circumcise_v it_o be_v a_o privilege_n and_o honour_n of_o our_o nobility_n in_o england_n that_o they_o make_v one_o house_n of_o parliament_n and_o who_o can_v deny_v that_o the_o wife_n and_o child_n of_o noble_n be_v concern_v in_o this_o honour_n though_o it_o belong_v not_o to_o they_o to_o sit_v in_o the_o house_n let_v we_o now_o add_v the_o testimony_n first_o of_o the_o primitive_a and_o then_o of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o some_o of_o their_o choice_a divine_n 1._o for_o the_o primitive_a time_n cyprian_a to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n as_o for_o that_o which_o my_o fellow_n presbyter_n donatus_n and_o fortunatus_n novatus_n and_o gordius_n write_v about_o i_o can_v write_v nothing_o 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example_n about_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n epist_n 28._o the_o ministry_n of_o rome_n to_o cyprian_a there_o be_v at_o this_o time_n no_o bishop_n at_o rome_n in_o this_o great_a business_n it_o seem_v good_a to_o we_o which_o thou_o also_o have_v former_o handle_v that_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n be_v uphold_v furthermore_o so_o conference_n of_o counsel_n be_v have_v with_o the_o bishop_n presbyter_n deacon_n confessor_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n with_o the_o stand_a people_n to_o handle_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o lapse_v epist_n 31._o cyprian_n to_o the_o people_n concern_v felicissimus_n and_o the_o five_o presbyter_n of_o his_o faction_n by_o the_o providence_n of_o god_n they_o undergo_v the_o punishment_n they_o have_v deserve_v that_o not_o be_v cast_v out_o by_o we_o they_o shall_v cast_v
have_v as_o the_o reverend_a assembly_n speak_v in_o answer_n to_o the_o dissent_v brethren_n the_o mutual_a assent_n and_o agreement_n of_o the_o people_n among_o who_o and_o over_o who_o discipline_n be_v to_o be_v exercise_v be_v the_o next_o foundation_n of_o the_o exercise_n thereof_o 2._o discipline_n be_v among_o the_o weapon_n of_o spiritual_a warfare_n and_o have_v to_o do_v only_o with_o the_o conscience_n it_o have_v place_n only_o upon_o those_o who_o conscientious_o in_o appearance_n at_o least_o have_v own_v this_o discipline_n as_o a_o ordinance_n &_o thereupon_o of_o free_a accord_n voluntary_o engage_v in_o it_o object_n the_o preach_v the_o word_n be_v to_o deal_v only_o with_o the_o conscience_n shall_v it_o therefore_o be_v preach_v only_o to_o such_o as_o voluntary_o submit_v to_o hear_v ans_fw-fr the_o preach_v of_o the_o word_n be_v a_o ordinance_n first_o prove_v itself_o and_o then_o all_o other_o ordinance_n as_o sacrament_n censure_n therefore_o so_o far_o as_o it_o have_v first_o convince_v other_o take_v place_n 3._o the_o people_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o willing_a people_n 4._o the_o discipline_n have_v no_o place_n with_o the_o catechuman_n of_o old_a notwithstanding_o their_o personal_a profession_n till_o upon_o their_o voluntary_a give_v up_o themselves_o to_o the_o church_n and_o by_o the_o church_n approve_v they_o be_v receive_v into_o full_a church_n fellowship_n 5._o the_o like_a method_n be_v use_v by_o the_o reform_a church_n none_o be_v under_o discipline_n who_o have_v not_o first_o be_v approve_v and_o by_o voluntary_a tender_a of_o themselves_o receive_v to_o the_o supper_n 2._o the_o church_n be_v so_o to_o be_v make_v up_o of_o her_o member_n in_o her_o several_a congregation_n as_o that_o the_o small_a number_n be_v ever_o to_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o great_a 1._o forasmuch_o as_o the_o people_n have_v their_o vote_n in_o cast_v out_o 2._o forasmuch_o as_o the_o presence_n and_o censure_n of_o those_o who_o be_v to_o cast_v out_o make_v for_o the_o humble_v and_o shame_v of_o those_o who_o be_v to_o be_v cast_v out_o but_o if_o all_o the_o scandalous_a be_v to_o be_v cast_v out_o it_o can_v be_v suppose_v that_o they_o will_v be_v the_o small_a number_n in_o several_a congregation_n 3._o cast_v out_o suppose_v public_a but_o personal_a admonition_n if_o he_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n and_o particular_o proof_n of_o the_o fault_n '_o for_o which_o the_o sinner_n be_v to_o be_v cast_v out_o but_o how_o this_o be_v possible_a in_o our_o nation_n i_o shall_v only_o appeal_v to_o experience_n and_o common_a sense_n 4._o if_o all_o scandalous_a sinner_n among_o we_o be_v to_o be_v cast_v out_o then_o be_v they_o all_o the_o scandalous_a of_o the_o church_n what_o have_v i_o to_o do_v to_o judge_v they_o that_o be_v without_o but_o they_o be_v not_o all_o the_o scandalous_a of_o the_o church_n with_o none_o of_o the_o scandalous_a of_o the_o church_n must_v we_o familiar_o keep_v company_n and_o yet_o may_v we_o abide_v in_o the_o world_n but_o withmany_a of_o the_o scandalous_a in_o the_o nation_n we_o must_v upon_o diverse_a occasion_n keep_v familiar_a company_n except_o we_o will_v go_v out_o of_o the_o world_n and_o it_o be_v the_o same_o case_n in_o all_o nation_n of_o the_o world_n 1_o cor._n 5.9_o with_o experience_n hence_o the_o true_a way_n of_o reformation_n among_o we_o in_o this_o that_o person_n fit_a matter_n of_o the_o church_n join_v together_o in_o church_n fellowship_n choose_v officer_n with_o caution_n former_o say_v down_o and_o so_o form_n congregation_n into_o a_o disciplinary_a state_n exercise_v discipline_n among_o themselves_o leave_v out_o the_o rest_n from_o congregationall_a church_n thus_o settle_v combination_n of_o church_n for_o mutual_a help_n will_v arise_v but_o here_o be_v now_o our_o scruple_n about_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n what_o warrant_v christian_n and_o minister_n have_v thus_o to_o proceed_v except_o he_o by_o public_a authority_n take_v order_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o i_o lay_v down_o chap._n vii_o the_o sifth_n instruction_n there_o be_v a_o church-power_n formal_o distinct_a from_o the_o civil_a one_o conclusion_n will_v here_o be_v of_o use_n before_o we_o insist_v upon_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o instruction_n and_o it_o be_v this_o the_o authority_n and_o relation_n of_o magistracy_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o whether_o the_o person_n of_o the_o magistrate_n be_v christian_n or_o not_o as_o the_o authority_n and_o relation_n of_o a_o father_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o in_o both_o case_n it_o belong_v to_o the_o office_n of_o magistracy_n to_o preserve_v authoritative_o both_o table_n of_o the_o law_n of_o god_n to_o take_v order_n that_o the_o subject_n may_v live_v in_o godliness_n and_o honesty_n though_o only_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v principle_n for_o exercise_v this_o power_n in_o a_o christian_a way_n this_o premise_a we_o come_v to_o the_o proof_n 1._o from_o the_o ensign_n of_o these_o power_n the_o sword_n of_o the_o civil_a the_o key_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a these_o as_o of_o different_a name_n and_o nature_n so_o they_o represent_v that_o power_n whereof_o they_o be_v the_o ensign_n different_a 2._o from_o the_o nature_n of_o these_o power_n compare_v 1._o in_o their_o object_n of_o the_o one_o the_o commonwealth_n of_o the_o other_o the_o church_n 2._o in_o their_o law_n of_o the_o one_o such_o as_o humane_a wisdom_n find_v necessary_a or_o expedient_a for_o the_o society_n of_o mankind_n of_o the_o other_o only_o the_o word_n of_o god_n 3._o their_o authority_n of_o the_o one_o imperial_a command_v in_o their_o own_o name_n as_o lawgiver_n to_o the_o subject_n of_o the_o other_o ministerial_a command_a only_a in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n the_o only_a lawgiver_n of_o his_o church_n 4._o in_o their_o punishment_n &_o reward_n of_o the_o one_o such_o as_o concern_v the_o outward_a man_n as_o for_o punishment_n fine_n imprisonment_n banishment_n death_n etc._n etc._n for_o reward_n revenue_n honour_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o other_o such_o as_o concern_v the_o inward_a man_n bind_v or_o lose_v the_o weapon_n of_o this_o warfare_n be_v spiritual_a retain_v or_o remit_v sin_n 3._o from_o the_o institution_n of_o these_o power_n the_o institution_n of_o magistracy_n be_v divine_a in_o general_n the_o power_n that_o be_v be_v ordain_v of_o god_n the_o constitution_n in_o particular_a be_v humane_a in_o diverse_a nation_n diverse_a in_o some_o the_o government_n by_o the_o king_n in_o other_o by_o the_o state_n in_o other_o by_o the_o people_n be_v subject_n to_o every_o humane_a creation_n 1_o pet._n 2.13_o the_o institution_n of_o church-office_n be_v divine_a both_o general_o that_o there_o be_v officer_n in_o the_o church_n and_o particular_o that_o these_o be_v they_o and_o no_o other_o 1_o cor._n 12.28_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v nowhere_o in_o the_o list_n or_o roll_v of_o church-officer_n 4._o from_o the_o conveyance_n of_o these_o power_n 1._o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o instance_n in_o the_o supreme_a person_n may_v be_v by_o succession_n church-officer_n must_v be_v by_o election_n the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o instance_n in_o the_o supreme_a court_n may_v be_v by_o election_n of_o the_o people_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n as_o such_o whether_o due_o qualify_v for_o church-government_n or_o not_o church-officer_n must_v be_v by_o election_n of_o the_o people_n of_o the_o church_n as_o such_o and_o they_o must_v be_v qualify_v according_a to_o scripture-character_n that_o they_o may_v right_o be_v choose_v 5._o from_o the_o exercise_n of_o these_o power_n both_o these_o power_n be_v exercise_v in_o their_o full_a height_n for_o the_o first_o three_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n when_o yet_o neither_o be_v any_o church-officer_n a_o civil_a magistrate_n neither_o do_v any_o civil_a magistrate_n pretend_v to_o be_v a_o church-officer_n 6._o from_o the_o dissolution_n of_o these_o power_n excommunication_n dissolve_v all_o church-power_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o church-officer_n when_o right_o administer_v against_o he_o it_o neither_o dissolve_v nor_o weaken_v civil_a power_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o magistrate_n when_o right_o administer_v against_o he_o 7._o from_o the_o far_a distance_n of_o these_o power_n a_o woman_n may_v be_v a_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o deborah_n in_o israel_n queen_n elizabeth_n in_o england_n but_o a_o woman_n may_v not_o be_v a_o church-officer_n a_o person_n may_v by_o good_a right_n be_v a_o magistrate_n yet_o by_o no_o right_a a_o church-member_n much_o less_o a_o church-officer_n 8._o add_v to_o these_o the_o concurrent_a judgement_n of_o all_o church_n who_o have_v ever_o avouch_v both_o in_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n these_o power_n distinct_a hence_o a_o consectary_n to_o the_o church_n as_o the_o church_n it_o belong_v to_o exercise_v all_o church-power_n whether_o the_o civil_a
with_o presbyter_n the_o denial_n of_o the_o proposition_n he_o account_v contentious_a wrangle_n whence_o this_o discourse_n proceed_v clear_a 3._o argument_n from_o the_o same_o testimony_n the_o name_n of_o bishop_n be_v equal_o give_v to_o all_o the_o elder_n phil._n 1._o all_o the_o minister_n salute_v by_o that_o name_n for_o what_o reason_n can_v be_v imagine_v suppose_v bishop_n and_o elder_n distinct_a why_o he_o shall_v salute_v only_o the_o bishop_n and_o deacon_n and_o leave_v out_o all_o the_o other_o minister_n act_n 20._o the_o same_o who_o be_v call_v elder_n v._o 17._o be_v bishop_n v._o 28._o the_o same_o argument_n tit._n 1.5_o with_o the_o seven_o 4._o argument_n from_o the_o last_o testimony_n where_o the_o name_n be_v use_v indifferent_o one_o for_o another_o and_o the_o self_n same_o qualification_n for_o office_n subjoin_v to_o each_o name_n there_o the_o self_n same_o office_n be_v set_v out_o under_o each_o name_n but_o so_o it_o be_v here_o the_o apostle_n enjoin_v titus_n to_o appoint_v elder_n if_o any_o be_v blameless_a etc._n etc._n v._o 5_o he_o gives_z the_o reason_n v._o 7._o for_o a_o bishop_n must_v be_v blameless_a etc._n etc._n if_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v not_o one_o and_o the_o same_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o reason_v at_o all_o may_v it_o not_o be_v reply_v it_o be_v true_a a_o bishop_n must_v be_v blameless_a etc._n etc._n but_o every_o presbyter_n be_v not_o a_o bishop_n here_o we_o may_v take_v notice_n of_o the_o miserable_a shift_n of_o the_o jesuit_n and_o with_o they_o our_o prelate_n the_o name_n say_v they_o be_v then_o common_a but_o the_o office_n distinct_a answ_n 1._o because_o the_o name_n be_v common_a and_o that_o perpetual_o therefore_o the_o father_n here_o according_a to_o all_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n argue_v the_o office_n one_o and_o the_o same_o 2._o not_o only_o the_o name_n be_v common_a but_o the_o qualification_n for_o office_n be_v here_o one_o and_o the_o same_o under_o those_o name_n the_o self_n same_o office_n be_v set_v forth_o their_o gloss_n here_o do_v yet_o further_o betray_v the_o nakedness_n of_o their_o evasion_n a_o presbyter_n say_v they_o be_v comprehen_v in_o a_o bishop_n for_o every_o bishop_n be_v a_o presbyter_n though_o withal_o he_o bemore_n as_o every_o captain_n be_v a_o soldier_n and_o therefore_o the_o name_n be_v common_a answ_n 1._o where_o person_n different_a in_o peculiar_a call_v or_o commission_n do_v yet_o agree_v in_o one_o common_a denomination_n it_o can_v be_v say_v they_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o no_o man_n faith_n though_o every_o captain_n be_v a_o soldier_n that_o a_o captain_n and_o a_o soldier_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o but_o here_o i_o express_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n that_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o 2._o in_o such_o a_o difference_n of_o person_n the_o less_o may_v be_v affirm_v indefinite_o or_o universal_o of_o the_o great_a but_o not_o the_o great_a of_o the_o less_o it_o be_v true_a every_o captain_n be_v a_o soldier_n but_o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o every_o soldier_n be_v a_o captain_n but_o here_o the_o bishop_n be_v affirm_v of_o the_o elder_a act_v 20.17_o with_o 28._o and_o tit._n 1.5_o with_o v._o 7._o their_o second_o shift_n be_v as_o miserable_a for_o this_o hold_n be_v so_o weak_a they_o be_v force_v to_o quit_v it_o that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o office_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v distinct_a but_o both_o at_o one_o time_n confer_v upon_o the_o same_o person_n answ_n 1._o this_o be_v to_o be_v wise_a above_o what_o be_v write_v no_o such_o thing_n any_o where_o hint_v 2._o the_o high_a operation_n be_v ascribe_v to_o the_o elder_n as_o such_o to_o feed_v to_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n therefore_o the_o bishop_n office_n can_v not_o be_v above_o they_o 3._o how_o miserable_o then_o have_v i_o argue_v what_o folly_n be_v this_o say_v he_o that_o any_o man_n shall_v prefer_v deacon_n before_o presbyter_n speak_v of_o the_o presbyter_n of_o his_o time_n when_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n have_v obtain_v that_o bishop_n be_v above_o presbyter_n that_o be_v before_o bishop_n and_o thence_o carry_v on_o his_o dispute_n that_o according_a to_o divine_a institution_n there_o be_v no_o difference_n now_o if_o this_o jesuitical_a allegation_n be_v true_a the_o answer_n be_v ready_a they_o have_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o office_n of_o presbyter_n and_o bishop_n both_o though_o distinct_a yet_o in_o one_o person_n as_o now_o they_o be_v distinct_a in_o several_a person_n therefore_o presbyter_n now_o be_v not_o by_o divine_a institution_n equal_a to_o they_o the_o truth_n be_v it_o be_v one_o office_n which_o be_v then_o in_o one_o person_n undivided_a be_v now_o divide_v and_o so_o share_v into_o several_a person_n 5._o argument_n from_o 1_o tim._n 4.14_o if_o that_o which_o be_v challenge_v peculiar_o to_o bishop_n belong_v to_o the_o presbyter_n as_o such_o than_o their_o office_n be_v not_o distinct_a but_o so_o it_o be_v that_o which_o be_v challenge_v etc._n etc._n nothing_o more_o peculiar_o challenge_v then_o ordination_n yet_o be_v that_o here_o by_o jerome_n plead_v for_o the_o presbyter_n in_o this_o very_a question_n wherein_o he_o be_v plead_v the_o equality_n of_o or_o identity_n rather_o of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n the_o same_o we_o may_v argue_v from_o act._n 13.1_o etc._n etc._n the_o separate_n of_o barnabas_n and_o saul_n to_o their_o ministry_n among_o the_o gentile_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n can_v well_o be_v conceive_v belong_v to_o any_o other_o then_o to_o those_o to_o who_o it_o belong_v to_o set_v a_o part_n by_o like_a imposition_n of_o hand_n the_o ordinary_a minister_n of_o the_o word_n at_o least_o not_o to_o any_o inferior_a to_o those_o but_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n be_v separate_v to_o their_o ministry_n not_o by_o bishop_n above_o presbyter_n but_o by_o prophet_n and_o teacher_n who_o be_v presbyter_n object_n the_o great_a can_v be_v ordain_v by_o the_o less_o paul_n ordain_v timothy_n answ_n this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v of_o like_a nature_n with_o ordination_n at_o the_o least_o the_o presbyter_n concur_v with_o paul_n 6._o argument_n from_o 1_o pet._n 5.1.2_o the_o greek_a word_n say_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d over-seeing_a or_o take_v the_o oversight_n be_v more_o significant_a whence_o the_o name_n of_o a_o bishop_n be_v draw_v the_o argument_n be_v thus_o whatsoever_o operation_n belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n by_o his_o office_n the_o same_o belong_v to_o the_o presbyter_n by_o he_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o distinct_a officer_n but_o one_o and_o the_o same_o the_o former_a part_n be_v prove_v thus_o all_o that_o belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n office_n be_v comprehend_v in_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o signify_v to_o perform_v the_o part_n of_o a_o bishop_n from_o whence_o the_o very_a name_n of_o bishop_n be_v derive_v but_o whatsoever_o be_v comprehend_v in_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d belong_v to_o the_o presbyter_n by_o express_a testimony_n here_o they_o must_v act_v the_o part_n of_o bishop_n which_o be_v they_o not_o the_o same_o with_o bishop_n will_v be_v to_o usurp_v therefore_o if_o not_o only_a ordination_n but_o jurisdiction_n belong_v to_o bishop_n the_o same_o by_o as_o authentic_a commission_n belong_v to_o presbyter_n or_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n of_o several_a congregation_n hence_o as_o former_o for_o ordination_n so_o for_o jurisdiction_n we_o may_v observe_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v perform_v without_o bishop_n distinct_a from_o and_o above_o presbyter_n 1_o cor._n 5._o per_fw-la totum_fw-la there_o be_v then_o no_o bishop_n in_o corinth_n object_n the_o apostle_n there_o excommunicate_v vers_fw-la 3._o i_o have_v judge_v already_o etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o some_o as_o beza_n for_o one_o hold_v excommunication_n prevent_v by_o public_a rebuke_n and_o repentance_n thereupon_o 2_o cor._n 2.6_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d render_v punishment_n signify_v rebuke_v 2._o the_o apostle_n judgement_n be_v a_o judgement_n of_o doctrinal_a determination_n appoint_v they_o what_o to_o do_v in_o case_n public_a rebuke_n or_o admonition_n shall_v not_o reclaim_v he_o not_o of_o juridical_a execution_n the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v gather_v in_o the_o name_n and_o with_o the_o power_n of_o christ_n to_o deliver_v etc._n etc._n 3._o have_v not_o this_o church_n the_o same_o power_n with_o those_o church_n rev._n 2_o but_o they_o be_v to_o proceed_v by_o the_o apostle_n direction_n blame_v that_o they_o have_v suffer_v such_o and_o such_o as_o the_o nicolatians_n jezabel_n etc._n etc._n the_o apostle_n himself_o not_o formal_o execute_v 1_o tim._n 5.17_o all_o church_n rule_n be_v distribute_v among_o the_o elder_n or_o presbyter_n therefore_o
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public_a administration_n of_o worship_n as_o for_o discipline_n joint_o as_o for_o the_o other_o main_a objection_n variety_n of_o language_n therefore_o their_o congregation_n must_v be_v many_o and_o fix_v answ_n there_o be_v interpreter_n of_o language_n that_o those_o who_o in_o the_o congregation_n understand_v not_o their_o language_n speak_v in_o may_v by_o interpretation_n understand_v it_o this_o argue_v their_o congregation_n be_v not_o fix_v according_a to_o the_o difference_n of_o language_n 3._o where_o there_o be_v all_o sort_n of_o power_n for_o discipline_n there_o be_v a_o entire_a right_n for_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o for_o power_n be_v for_o exercise_n but_o in_o every_o congregation_n there_o be_v all_o sort_n of_o power_n there_o be_v power_n of_o order_n and_o power_n of_o office_n and_o for_o office-power_n there_o be_v both_o sort_n of_o officer_n elder_n labour_v in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n and_o other_o for_o rule_n with_o they_o and_o in_o this_o they_o of_o the_o presbyterian_a and_o congregationall_a way_n agree_v 4._o where_o our_o saviour_n rule_n may_v be_v observe_v matth._n 18.15_o 16_o 17._o there_o be_v entire_a power_n of_o discipline_n but_o in_o every_o congregation_n so_o frame_v that_o rule_n may_v be_v observe_v admonition_n first_o single_a then_o before_o a_o witness_n or_o two_o and_o last_o by_o the_o church_n 5._o where_o authoritative_a suspension_n may_v be_v there_o may_v be_v excommunication_n but_o in_o every_o such_o congregation_n authoritative_a suspension_n may_v be_v this_o late_a be_v grant_v the_o former_a be_v thus_o confirm_v where_o there_o be_v power_n of_o church-admonition_n there_o be_v power_n of_o excommunication_n mat._n 18.17_o but_o where_o there_o be_v power_n of_o authoritative_a suspension_n there_o be_v power_n of_o church-admonition_n 1._o suspension_n suppose_v such_o admonition_n 2._o admonition_n be_v a_o less_o act_n of_o power_n and_o jurisdiction_n than_o suspension_n be_v 6._o where_o there_o be_v right_a to_o entire_a church-fellowship_n in_o the_o ordinance_n of_o public_a worship_n and_o private_a communion_n there_o be_v right_a for_o the_o exercise_n of_o discipline_n this_o appear_v thus_o a_o scandalous_a sinner_n in_o such_o a_o society_n retain_v be_v leaven_n leaven_n the_o whole_a lump_n involve_v the_o whole_a society_n in_o guilt_n 1_o cor._n 5._o therefore_o it_o be_v their_o duty_n and_o in_o their_o power_n to_o cast_v he_o out_o but_o in_o every_o congregation_n so_o frame_v there_o be_v right_a for_o entire_a church-fellowship_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v not_o question_v hence_o to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n power_n be_v ascribe_v and_o she_o blame_v for_o not_o cast_v out_o the_o incestuous_a person_n not_o because_o she_o have_v thus_o and_o thus_o many_o officer_n but_o because_o she_o be_v a_o church_n entire_o frame_v for_o discipline_n have_v in_o her_o all_o kind_n of_o power_n for_o that_o purpose_n chap._n xi_o the_o 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distinct_a from_o and_o above_o presbyter_n be_v manifest_a in_o this_o instance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n where_o till_o heraclas_n and_o dionysius_n a_o bishop_n be_v no_o other_o but_o one_o of_o the_o presbyter_n by_o the_o choice_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o rest_n set_v in_o a_o high_a degree_n 2._o another_o pretence_n from_o antiquity_n be_v the_o catalogue_n of_o bishop_n succeed_v each_o other_o in_o such_o and_o such_o church_n answ_n how_o do_v it_o appear_v that_o these_o bishop_n have_v peculiar_a ordination_n and_o above_o presbyter_n there_o be_v as_o formal_a a_o catalogue_n give_v in_o of_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n as_o of_o any_o other_o church_n succeed_v mark_n the_o evangelist_n in_o this_o order_n 1._o anianus_n 2._o abilius_n 3._o cerdo_n 4._o primus_fw-la 5._o justus_n 6._o eumenes_n 7._o marcus_n 8._o celadion_fw-la 9_o agrippa_n or_o agrippinus_n 10._o julianus_n 11._o demetrius_n 12._o heraclas_n 13._o dionysius_n whereas_o yet_o we_o 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