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A61705 Some remarks upon a late pamphlet, entituled, An answer to the Scots Presbyterian eloquence wherein the innocency of the Episcopal clergy is vindicated, and the constitution and government of our Church of Scotland defended, against the lies and calumnies of the Presbyterian pamphleters. Strachan, William.; Ridpath, George, d. 1726. Answer to the Scots Presbyterian eloquence. 1694 (1694) Wing S5776; ESTC R1954 92,648 108

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Errors and Superstitions should be allowed to exercise their Spiritual Jurisdiction in the Church and therefore they were excluded therefrom and others of the Reformed Communion being Vested with Episcopal Authority were surrogated in their stead and called by the Name of Superintendents the Sees of the Popish Bishops not being Esteemed void but supplied by Protestant Superintendents who did not enjoy any of the Temporal Priviledges and Honours annexed to the Bishopricks For although the Popish Bishops were restrained from the exercise of their Spiritual Power yet such respect was had to them that they were allowed during their Lives to possess all the Revenues of their Bishopri●…ks and to Sit and Vote in Parliament as Peers of the Realm But such of the Bishops as went along with the Reformation were allowed not only to enjoy all their Temporal Priviledges but likewise to exercise their Spiritual Authority in the Church and no Superintendants Named for their Diocefes as was for those of the Popish Bishops Now although we should grant our Author that their Form o●… Ordination was not di●…ferent yet it cannot be denied that they were invested with the whole Episcopal Authority and Jurisdiction over the Clergy of their several Dioceses which is the only Bugbear in Episcopacy with which the Presbyterians pretend to Quarrel because they Usurp Lordship and D●…minion over their Brethren They were cloathed with full Power of Ordaining Presbyters of Suspending and Deposing them from their Sacred Function of censuring and punishing the Clergy according to their several Crimes and all this they were Authorized to do without asking the Advice or Consent of the rest of the Clergy which is more than our Bishops at present do ‖ All Appeals from Presbyters and the Inferiour Clergy were to be made to the Sup●…rintendents they were to decide all Controversies in the Discipline of the Church to preside in Synods and to direct the Church Censures inslicted by the rest of the Clergy All the Presbyters within their Dioceses were required under the pain of Deposition to be subject to their Government and Authority and were not allowed without the consent and approbation of the Superintendents to transact any thing of moment in the Church So that they were invested with the whole Power and Jurisdiction that belongs to Bishops and this methinks should be enough to stop the Mouths of the Presbyterian Party who as I have already said exclaim against nothing in this Sacred Order but the Authority which Bishops are allowed to have over the rest of the Cle●…gy And as for their Ordina●…ion it seems at lest that it was different from that of other Minist●…rs since those who were Nominated to be Superintendants were chose out of the Number of such as had already received the Orders of a Presbyter and yet upon their Election to a Superin●…endency they were again solemnly set apart by Prayer for ●…hat O●…ice Now it cannot be imagined that they should again receive the same Orders of a Presbyter which had been already conferred upon them and therefore this second Mission mentioned upon their being chose Superintendents can be meant of nothing else but Episcopal Consecration or something in the sense of the Church at that time equivalent to it They ●…ad long before received the Ordination of Presbyters and now when they were Elected Superintendents they were set apart for that Office by certain solemn Rites and Ceremonies which is a plain Demonstration that they were in a manner Consecrated anew to that Sacred Function Besides it is not to be conceived how they above other Presbyters could be invested with this Power of conferring Orders and exercising other Acts of Jurisdiction which belong only to Bishops unless it were by having this Episcopal Authority conferred upon them by the hands of other Bishops and this they could without any difficulty obtain from the hands of those Bishops in Scotland who had imbraced the Reformed Communion However it is not peremptorily said here that the Ordination of Superintendents to the Episcopal Of●…ice was altogether ●…anonical It is enough for our purpose that they being of new solemnly set apart for a more eminent O●…ice in the Church The Clergy and Lai●…y had such a regard for the ●…piscopal Order That they considered the Superintendents as such and payed the same deference to them that formerly was due to the Bishops so that tho their distinct Ordinations would not b●… mad●… evident from Hi●…tory to be Canonical yet their Power was undoubtedly Episcopal There is nothing more notoriously false than what this Author urges in the second place against the Superintendents That their Office was Temporary during the Exigence of the Church For in the Form of Church Policy which the Protestant Clergy offered to the Parliament in the year 1561 one of its Heads is concerning Superin●…endents and it is there appointed that the Election of Superintendants in after times should be stricter than the present circumstances would allow and the last Head of that Policy prescribes some conditions to be kept in future Elections of 〈◊〉 which is an evident proof that our first Reformers did not look upon the Office of Superintendents only as a Temporary thing The Name I grant indeed to have been temporary and to have la●…ted no longer in the Church than during the Natural Lives of the Popish Bishops For while they were alive their Bishopricks with respect to their Temporalities were not esteemed vacant and the Protestants who were set over their Dioceses were called by the Name of Superintendents they not being invested with the Temporal Priviledges of a Bishop but only with the spiritual Authority and Jurisdiction belonging to that Office but upon the Death of the Popish Bishops we find that whosoever was presented to any of these Dioceses now falling void by their Death they were not presented under the Name of Superintendents as th●…y had been formerly while the Popish Bishops were alive but had now the Title of Bishops given them and were invested with all the temporalties annexed to the Bishopricks Thus it is we sind in the Infancy of the Reformation both Bishops and Superintendants contemporary in the Church but in a few years after we have no mention of Superintendents and all the Governours of the Church go under the Name of Bishops And this I should think were enough to convince any unbyassed Reader that in those days the Office of Episcopacy and Superintendency were both the same The Third Argument which he brings against the Superintendents is That they were accountable to the Presbyters which is altogether inconsistent with Episcopacy Although Bishops at their first Institution were invested with an Absolute Power over their Flocks independent of any Authority but that of Jesus Christ their Head and were accountable to none for their right Administration of their Office but to him alone Yet in after Ages by a mutual compact among themselves they did agree that for the
to Exercis●… the 〈◊〉 of the Clergy to see themselves so ●…njuriously P●…rsecuted and Reviled But they had thi●… for th●…ir comfort that they received no worse Usag●… than their Master had done befor●… th●…m It is enough for the Disciple that he be as his Master and the Servant as his Lord if they have called the Master of the Hous●… Beelzebub how much more shall they call them of his Houshold But thanks be to God th●… Lives and Conversations of the far greatest ●…art of our Clergy are so apparently Pious and Exemplary so exactly conform to the Character they bear of b●…ing Spiritual Guides Bu●…ning and Shining Lights that as the Calumni●…s of their Adversaries cannot much injure their Reputation in this World so far less will th●…y be able to diminish that Eternal Reward laid up fo●… them in the Life to come However when the Clergy are thus maliciously and unjustly Slandered and Reviled Religion does often suffer thereby and therefore in thi●… Case I think it is the Duty of every Christian to Espouse the Interest of Religion and to Vindicate the Clergy from those Aspersions their Enemies load th●…m withal There is not a more certain fore-runner of Atheism and Irreligion in a Nation than a contempt of the Clergy and it may justly provoke God to remove his Candlestick quite from us if we suffer his Ministers and Ambassadors to be Treated with such Reproach and Cont●…mpt it is a shrewd Sign we have no great Respect for a Prince if we affront his Ambassador Although I am not in Holy Orders my s●…lf yet I have such a Veneration and Esteem for that Sacred Function that it raises my Indignation to a great height to see Ingenious and deserving Men Buffoon'd and Ridiculed meerly for their having devoted thems●…lves to the Holy Ministry for having Received the Title of being Christs Ambassadors to his Saints here on Earth Were they of any other Profession their Parts and Piety would make them to be much Regarded by all Men but because they have entred into the Office of the Holy Ministry that Office which our Saviour did not disdain to take upon himself and his Holy Apostles Gloried in they must therefore suff●…r all Indigniti●…s and Affronts ●…nd be Treated with greater Contempt and Ig●…ominy than the meanest Artizan Is not this to Crucifie afresh the Lord of Life ●…nd Glory to put him again to op●…n shame to Mock him and to Spit upon him as the Jews ●…id b●…fore his Crucifixion For whatever Indig●…ity we offer to his Ministers here on Earth he ●…akes it as done to his own Person He that depiseth them despiseth him that sent them It was t●…is Respect alon●… which I have for the Ministe●…al Function that moved me to Write these few Remarks upon a late Scurrilous Libel against our Clergy Publish●…d by an obscure Anonymous Author who se●…ms to be more influenced by t●…e Spirit of Malice and Envy than of th●… Christian R●…ligion I was not a little concern●…d ●…o see so many Eminent and Deserving Men thus injured in 〈◊〉 Fame and Reputation and tha●… among Strangers to whom they were wholly unknown Were these Stories Published only in th●…ir own Country where the whole course of th●…ir Life is sufficiently known they might bid defianc●… to ●…he utmost Malice of their Enemies and to An●…er any such malicious Libels against them th●…re would be altog●…ther superfluous Bu●… when th●…se R●…ports are propagate amongst Strang●…rs who have no personal knowledge of the M●…n who ar●… thus abused it is n●…cessary to Write som●…thing in their Vindication and to prevent Peopl●…'s being farther impos●…d upon by such Li●…s and Calumnies This Author hath Writ a s●…cond Part of the Treatis●… which is her●… 〈◊〉 but that b●…ing already tak●…n to Task by another Hand I take no Notice of it My busin●…ss is only with his first Pamphlet wherein I have suffici●…ntly shewn his Gross Pr●…varications and Falshoods and confuted all the Shadows of Reasoning t●…at ly●… scattered in his Book My present Circumstances would not allow me to make an exact inquiry conc●…rning all the particular Persons whom h●… h●…re Accuses of Immoralities I being at too great a distance from the Places where they do resid●… But I have pick'd out the most considerable instances thos●… Persons whom he charg●…s with the most Atrocious Crimes and in his Accusations against them I have evid●…ntly prov●…d him guilty of the highest Malice and Injustic●… which I think is sufficient to Ruin the Cr●…dit of his Book in the r●…st of the Instances among all Sober and Judicious M●…n THE CONTENTS Introduction THE Uncharitableness and Inhumanity of this Author's Design Pag. 1 This method of Writing inconsistent with the Principles of our Religion and the Laws of Humane Society 3 The occasion of publishing the Scots Presbyterian Eloquence 5 Chap. I. THis Author's Reflections upon the Church of England and so●… of ●…he Ministers of State considered Pag. 9 Episcopacy established in Scotland not by the force and tyranny of our Rulers but by the consent and approbation of the whole Nation 10 The Bishops in Scotland invest●…d with full Authority belonging to Bishops 11 A short account of some of our Church Judicatories Kirk-Sessions Presbyteries and Synods Ibid. These Judicatories shewn to be no Encroachment on the Episcopal Power 12 Our Author's disingenuity in his slanderous Reflections upon the Clergy 13 Some few of the Episcopal Clergy offering to joyn with the Presbyterians can be no sufficient Vindication of the Lives and Morals of the Presbyterian Party 14 T●…e Episcopal Cl●…rgy have charged the Presbyterians with nothing relating to their barbarous Persecution but what they have been ablc to prove from irrefragable Authorities 15 Episcopacy the first Government of the Church of Scotland after the Reformation and never there by Law abolished till the unhappy Civil Wars ●…nder the R●…ign of K. Charles the First broke out 16 〈◊〉 occasion of settling Superin●…endents in the Church of Scotland upon the Reform●… 17 The Superintendents inves●…ed with the whole Episcopal Authority and Jurisdiction over the Clergy of their Diocesses Pag. 18 The Mission of the Superintendent 's plainly different from that of other Ministers Ibid. T●…e Superintendents no ways Temporary as to their Office but only as to the Nam●… 19 The Superintendents giving an account to a National Synod of their Diligence in their Functions no Argument against their being Bishops 20 T●… Enacting of these P●…nal Laws against th●… Presbyterians which this Author has scraped together occasioned meerly by the frequen●… Rebellio●…s of that Party 21 T●… Nation had sufficient ground to Enact these Laws against the Presbyterians from their Treasonable Practices under the former R●…igns of K. James the Sixth and K. Charles the First 22 ●…at this was the true occasion of Enacting these Penal Laws appears from our Author 's o●…n Concessions 23 〈◊〉 ●…s been the constant practice of the Presbyterians to shelter their Treasonable Designs under the Name of
Assembly could have no such Pretence against those few Episcopal Clergy that ●…esired to be United to them in a share of the Government They were willing I suppose to own the same common Principles of Unity with the Presbyterians in reference to the Discipline of the Church that is to be governed by the major part of all their Assemblies and to submit always to what is carried by a Plurality of Voices in their Meetings though sometimes they themselves when they see it for their Interest destroy this Principle of Unity so fundamentally nece●…ary to all Democratical Societies and allow the lesser Number to preponderate the greater as in the Case which happened in the Synod of St. Andrews an 1591 about settling a Minister at Leuchars And this methinks is enough to shew that the Church of England had far more reasonable Grounds to oppose the Comprehension with the Dissenters than the Scots Presbyterians had to reject the desire of the Episcopal Addressers But this Author will needs have the Disadvantage appear wholly on the Church of England's ●…ide and therefore we must consider a little the Reasons he brings for his Assertion His first Reason is Because the King is really the Fountain of all their Church Power as ●…aving the making of the Bishops and does still remain Head of th●…ir Church whereas he hath actually renounced Name and Thing in Scotland where the whole Ecolesiastical Jurisdiction is by Law settled in the Church The King is indeed owned by the Church of England to be in his own Dominions Supream over all Persons and in all Causes Civil and Ecclesiastical but that he is the Fountain of all their Church Power is what I believe the most Erastian Principled among them never dreamed Their 37th Article asserts the contrary in as plain words as can be desired where it is said ' ' That they give not to their Princes the Ministring either of God's Word or of the Sacraments but that only Prerogative which they see to have been always given to all godly Princes in holy Scriptures by God himself that is That they should rule all Estates and Degrees committed to their Charge by God whether they be Ecclesiastical or Temporal and restrain with the Civil Sword the stubborn and evil Doers From whence 't is plain that the Church of England in her Articles allows the Civil Magistrate no Power or Jurisdiction in Matters purely Spiritual he cannot Administer the Sacraments nor Consecrate either Bishops or Priests neither can he inflict any Spiritual Censures upon obstinate Offenders The Civil Power may for strengthening the Hands of the Church and making her Discipline the more dreaded and regarded inforce her Spiritual Censures with Secular Punishments but can lay no claim to the Power of the Keys as his own Right It is from him the Church derives that Power of having Civil Penalties inflicted on such as contemn and despise th●… Ecclesiastical Censures as in the case of Excommunication which renders the Party excommunicated obnoxious to Temporal Imprisonment and incapacitates him from carrying on any Suit or Action in the Civil Courts The Church cannot by her own Authority use the Civil Sword to punish the stubborn and evil Doers and therefore in so far as the Civil Magistrate extends the Churches Jurisdiction to some Secular Matters and impowers her to inflict Civil Penalties for the better preserving of her Ecclesiastical Discipline the Clergy must own the King to be the Fountain from whence they derive this Power But as for their Spiritual Authority and Jurisdiction which only can be called properly the Church Power they derive it from a higher Original from God himself who is the true ●…ead of our Church and it cannot be conveyed to us by the Hands of any Lay-Person God has instituted a distinct Order of Men in our Church whom he has authorized to transmit this Spiritual Power down through all the Ages of Posterity that there might still be a constant Succession of Pastors and Governors in the Church to administer his Wor●… and Sacraments to his People And it is from this Sacred Order of the Divine Appointment that our Clergy derive their Spiritual Power it is from their hands they receive Holy Orders and a Power of Ministring in Holy Things and none but they alone can Divest them of this Authority Our Author's Expression of the King 's having the making of the Bishops is somewhat ambiguous If he means that the King is allowed by the Church of England a Power to Consecrate and Separate the Bishops for their Sacred Function it is such a notorious Falshood as needs no Confutation the practice of the Church to the contrary being so visible But if his meaning is That the King has Power to Nominate any Clergy-man to a vacant Bishoprick it is no more than what they themselves allow to the Laity in their popular Elections And if the Laity in these Elections may be allowed to Nominate their own Pastor and Spiritual Guide I see no reason why the Church should be blamed for allowing the King to Nominate and Recommend to them a Person ●…itly Quali●…ied for the Sacred Office of a Bishop especially since 't is to his Bounty they owe all the Temporal Priviledges and Honours which are annexed to the Episcopal Sees The same Power in the external ordering of Spiritual Matters with which the ●…ing is Invested by the Constitutions of this Church and Nation does likewise belong to him by the Laws of Scotland ●…e has the Power of Nominating the Bishops and 't is by his Authority the Clergy of that Kingdom are allowed to meddle in Secular Matters and to in●…lict any Civil Penalties upon such as d●…spise their Spiritual 〈◊〉 What this Author alledges about the Res●…inding of the whole Supremacy in Sc●…tland by Act of Parliament since this Revolution is a gross mistake as may easily appear f●…om this short Narrative thereos By the 129th Act Parl. 8. ●… Jam●…s VI. the King 's Royal Prerogative of Supremacy over all Estates as well Spiritual as Temporal is acknowledged and rati●…ied and it i●… d●…clared That none shall d●…cline the ●…ing's Power in 〈◊〉 Premisses under the pain of Treason Thereafter by the ●… A●… 2. Parl. K Charl●…s II. there is an Exp●…ication of this Act and Prerogative whereby it is declared That whatever Constitution the King s●…all make concerning the ord●…ing and disposing of the external Government of the Church shall be obeyed as Law This last Act was thought to give ●…he King too much Power since he might thereby have aboli●…hed the Government of the Church by his own immediate Authority and so there was some pretext for Rescinding this last Act and it is Rescind●…d by the first Act of the second Session of Parliament of ●… W●…lliam but the ●…irst Act is not Rescinded and there was an 〈◊〉 Order to the Commissioner not to consent to any Act in prej●…dice the●…eof So that the King then by virtue
been formerly Instruments to bring us under Popery and Slavery and whether this be not such a Reflexion on the present Government as does concern it to Punish severely I leave my Reader to judge since to accuse the Chief Ministers of State under any Government of such odious Crimes as Enslaving their Country is a direct Insinuation against the Government it self as if it by employing such kind of Instruments did really design those Mischiefs against the Nation with which they upbraid their Chief Ministers of State And here I cannot enough admire the Impudence of this Author to quarrel with the English Peers for medling in the Affairs of the Church of Scotland when he very well knows that the greatest Encouragement and Support the Presbyterian Party in that Kingdom have is from the in●…luence of some foreign Presbyterians And I would gladly know why an English Nobleman has not as good Right to concern himself in the Affairs of our Church as any Dutch Presbyterian But to take off all Church of England men from having any Pity or Compassion upon the Distressed State of our Church he endeavours to perswade them that the Constitution of Episcopacy in Scotland is so very sar disferent from that of England that although our Clergy are Sufferers sor the Primitive and Apostolical Government of Episcopacy by Law established in that Nation yet they cannot be said ●…o suffer for the Government and Discipline of the Church of England and so not deserve that Fellow-feeling and Countenance which some worthy Members of her Communion are pleased to shew them His first Instance to shew the d●…erence betwixt the two Const●…tutions is this That ours in Scotland was 〈◊〉 upon us by the Tyr●…nny of our 〈◊〉 Now suppose his Asse●…tion were t●…ue yet methinks 't is a very odd consequence that two Constitutions must needs be disferent in their Nature because disferent means were used to set●…le them in a Nation Could not the Tyranny of our Rulers have forced upon us the same Constitution with that of England as easily as one that is disferent But his Assertion is as notoriously false as the Consequence he endeavours to draw from it for in the Insancy of the Reformation our Church was governed by Bishops and Sup●…rintendents and that form of Government was app●…oved of by the Un●…nimous Consent of the whole Nation both Clergy and Lai●…y* And as to these later Times our publick Records of Parliament can yet testifie that the Episcopal Government was so far from being sorced upon the Nation against their Will and Consent that it has been established and confirmed by Twenty seven successive Legal Pa●…liaments It 's known that at the Restoration of the Royal Family the whole Nation having long groaned und●… the Yoke of 〈◊〉 they were very desirous to have their Primitive and Ancient Government of Episcopacy restored that they might be rescued f●…om the Tyranny and Confusion of the Presbyterian Anarchy under which t●…y had so severely smarted during their Usurpation and a great many of the Clergy I am sure the whole Diocese of Aberdeen almost to a Man add●…essed Hi●… Majesty upon this account His next Instance is That Presbytery being Engraf●…ed with our Reformation Prelacy could never attain to a kindly nor plenary Possession And to prove this he instances in our retaining of Kirk-Sessi●…ns Presbyteries and Synods even under Bishops That the Presbyterian Government had no Settlement in our Church for many Years a●…ter the Reformation I shall hereafter prove to the conviction of the most Obstinate But that Presbyters had a great Hand in Reforming us from the Errors and Superstitions of the Romish Church both in Scotland and other Nations where the Reformation happily prevailed is what we do not deny But does it hence follow that because Presbyters were more instrumental than Bishops in Promoting that great Work of the Re●…ormation that therefo●…e the Presbyterian Government ought to be Established wherever the Reformation obtains and that of Episcopacy overturn'd Or because Presbyters had the Happiness to be concerned in so good a Work does that therefore Authorize them to Usurp the Sacred O●…fice of a Bi●…hop without b●…ing duly Called and Ordained thereto by those whom our Saviour has appointed to convey that Authority Although some Bishops may chance to be backward and negligent in doing their Duty as those Popish Bishops ●…ho opposed the Reformation yet 't is altogether unreasonable that the whole Order should suffer for the Crimes of some particular Members of their Fra●…ernity What our Author means by saying Episcopacy never attained to a Plenary Possession among us I do not well apprehend ●…or ' ●…is plain the Constitution of our Episcopacy is such that th●… Bi●…hop is ●…nvested with the sole Power of Ordination and Jurisdiction within his own particular District the whole Presbyters of his Diocese are subject to his Authority and own him for their Chief Governor in Matters purely Spiritual there is no Act of Discipline put in execution by the Inferior Clergy but by the Allowance and Approbation of their Dioc●…san and I think this is such a full and plena●…y Possession as may justly entitle them even to a through Set●…lement As ●…or his Instances of our Kirk-Sessions Presbyteri●… Synods Pr●…vincial and National because this is a part of our Constitution not so very well known here in England I shall trouble my Reader wi●… this short account of them That which he calls the Kirk 〈◊〉 i●… a Court of Judicature established in every Parish consisting of the Minis●…er and some few Laicks of good Reputation that a●…e his Parishioners whom he associates to himself for giving him in●…ormation of the Manners and Conversation of his People that so he ●…eceiving from these Men exact Information of the state of ●…is Parish all scandalou●… and vicious Persons may be brought to condign Punishm●…nt The Presbyteries are a sort of Judicatory under the Episcopal Constitution consisting meerly of the Clergy ●…or every Diocese is divided into several Presbyteries each of which consist of about 12 Ministers or thereby some of them being more numerous than others This Judicatory meets at least once a Month and their chief business is to consult and advise about Affairs relating to their several Churchès and to examine the Qualifications of those that design to enter upon the Holy Ministry the Bishop never admiting any to Holy Orders but such as have their Approbation after several Exercises done before them If there happen any Matter of great Consequence and Importance in any Parish which the Minister is not willing to meddle in without the Advice of his Brethren he b●…ings it before this Judicatory and laying open the whole matter to them desires their Counsel and Direction how to proceed in such a weighty Affair of Punishing an obstinate Offiender who refuses to submit to the Censures of the Church This kind of Judicatory was not indeed known in our Church till near 26 Years
of the first Act continues to have a Supremacy over all Es●…ates Ecclesiastical as well Civil and over all Pe●…sons and Causes thereto relating and th●… Clergy of S●…otland ar●… as much bound to own this Supremacy as those of 〈◊〉 ●…ere I cannot but observe how visibly the Disloyalty and 〈◊〉 of this Pa●…ty to all Civil Government does appear Th●…y endeavour under pretence of lodging all Ecclesiastical 〈◊〉 in t●… Church to divest the King of that Power in the extern●…l ord●…ing of Church Matters which does duly belong to him as being the supreme Governor within his o●…n Dominions and yet they a●…e so sar from settling the whole Ecclesias●…ical Jurisdiction in t●…e hands of Spiritual Persons as they pretend that they have not so much as one Judicatory but what does consist of at least 〈◊〉 as many Laicks as those who pretend to be Ecclesiasticks They 〈◊〉 not allow the King so much Power as to Convocate the Clergy so●… the 〈◊〉 of Matters about Religion when he thinks fit or to ●…ommand them faithfully to discharge their Duties and Functions which he may lawfully do by virtue of his Civil Power over their Persons as his Subjects and yet they allow the Lay-Elders in their General Assemblies to share with them in the Authority of in●…licting Spiritual Censures which properly belongs to none but Spiritual Persons and their indulging the Laity this Power in spiritual matters is more than what they can well account ●…or according to the first Institution of th●… Ministry In their General Assemblies there is no Minister d●…prived of hi●… function no Sentence of ●…xcommunication passed no ●…eretick condemned nor any thing of moment transacted but what th●…ir Lay-Elders share in as much as their Teachers and yet is the King should 〈◊〉 any such Power in their Meeti●…gs they would be apt to ●…ly in his Face as an Oppressor and Persecutor of the Cause of God but methinks they might at least indulge him the 〈◊〉 of being one of their Ruling Elders That the Church has Power of calling her Assemblies and exercising ●…er Discipline in some extraordinary Cases even contrary to the Command of the Civil Magistrate is what we do not deny as this Author is pleas●…d to alledge The Apostles and Primitive Christians did in a direct opposition to the Roman Emperours and Jewish Sanhedrim frequently meet together to perform the Religious Exercises of Devotion and determine such Controversies as then happened to arise among their B●…ethren and this they did without thinking that they encroached in the least upon the just Rights of the lawful Powers then in being And what was lawful for them to do is still lawful for the pr●…sent Ch●…rch in the same Circumstances for the Magistrates being now Christian can Intitle him to no gr●…ter Power in Church 〈◊〉 by Virtue of his Civil Authority than what did b●…ong to the Heathen Magistrates The Church may indeed upon prudent Mo●…ives indulge the Christian Magi●…trate a greater Power of 〈◊〉 in Ecclesiastical matters than wh●…t had been 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or ●…afe to intrust the Heathen Emperours wi●…h but this Power which the Church Grants to the Magistrate does no ways belong to him by 〈◊〉 of ●…is Civil Authority it is only Indulged ●…im by the Church in prospect of his Temporal Protection and there●…ore 〈◊〉 he instead of a Nursing Fa●…her to her shall turn an oppressing 〈◊〉 or when the Church shall see it any way necessary sor the well being and safety of Religion she may recal it again at her pleasure But as we allow the Church to have the sole Power and Authority in matters purely Spiritual so we deny that any such 〈◊〉 Jurisdiction belongs to her as to ex●…mpt the Bodies of the Cl●…gy from Subjection to the Civil Powers They owe their Sovereign the same Duty and Obedience with the rest of his Subjects are as much under the Jurisdiction of his Civil Courts as liable to the Temporal punishments which he inflicts as the persons of the Lai●…y sor otherwise the Civil Magistrate could have no security for hi●… Government We do not allow the Clergy to be Judges of every thing done by themselves in the first instance which is the height of the Popish Usurpation and Supremacy and makes Church-men no Subjects And herein it is that we differ from the Presbyterians in asserting the Jurisdiction of the Church they together with the Papists carry it to such a height as to claim an exemption for the Clergy of their not being answerable to the Civil Courts of the Nation but only cognizable by themselves they deny the secular Magistrate any Power to punish the persons of the Clergy for Rebellion and Treason preached openly from their Pulpits or any other Crime till they once be Convicted of the Crime and Condemned therefore by a sentence of an Ecclesiastick Judicatory That this is or at least was always wont to be the constant Principle of the Presbyterian Party is so Notorious that I admire this Author should ever attempt to conceal it Was it not their proceeding to practice upon these principles which gave the first Rise to that Act of Parliament in K. James VI's Reign ratifying the King's Supremacy For one Mr. And. Melvil a Presbyterian Minister having declaimed ●…requently against the King for which being called before the Council he boldly declined the King and Council as Judges in prima instantia of what is Preach'd in the Pulpit even tho' it were High Treason and so he fled into England Whereupon the Nation Assembled in Parliament in the year 1584 in a just Resentment of th●…se Seditious Doctrines and Practices did pass the abovementioned Act of Supremacy and it was by Vertue of that very Act that Mr Ja. Guthrie a Presbyterian Minister was anno 1661 hanged for declining the King's Authority The Presbyterian Ministers declaimed against and reproached this Act of Parliament and in opposition thereto one of their Number Mr. Dav. Black having Railed against K. James and Queen Elizabeth from the Pulpit as Enemies to God being called before the King's Council he not ●…nly declined the King's Power of judging him until he was first Condemned by his Brethren but United most of the Ministers of S●…tland most tumultuously in his Defence and some of them who were then residing at Edinburgh stirred up the multitude to such a Rage and Fury upon this occasion that they presently leap●… to Arms and came to the Street in great Numbers crying The Sword of the Lord and of Gideon it shall either be theirs or ours And taking their March streight to the Session-House where the King and his Counsellors were then met would in all probability have forced the Doors which upon the Noise of the Tumult were shut and done no small mischief were it not that by the Providence of God a Loyal party drawn together by the Deacon Conveener of the Trades kept them back for a while till their Fury cooled a little and in