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A10399 Tvventy nine lectures of the Church very necessary for the consolation and support of Gods Church, especially in these times: wherein is handled, first, in generall concerning first, the name; secondly, the titles; thirdly, the nature, fourthly, the diuision of the true Church: secondly, of the visible Church ... and lastly, the application of it to all Churches in the world so farre as they are knowne to vs. By that learned and faithfull preacher, Master Iohn Randall, Batchelor of Diuinity, pastor of Saint Andrewes Hubbart in little Eastcheape, London, and sometimes fellow of Lincolne Colledge in Oxford. Published by the coppie perfected and giuen by the author in his life time; carefully preserued and adorned with notes in the margent, by the late faithfull minister of Christ, Master William Holbrooke. Randall, John, 1570-1622.; Holbrooke, William. 1631 (1631) STC 20683; ESTC S115641 423,199 550

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is in the one the approbation in the other The second thing wherein their Office consists is in ouerseeing and redressing things that are amisse for this purpose was Titus left in Crete to redresse things amisse Titus 1.5 and that not in the people onely but in the Ministers also 1 Tim. 5.19 20. Against an Elder receiue none accusation but vnder two or three witnesses them that sinne openly rebuke openly c. Timothy was at Ephesus as Titus was at Crete to redresse things amisse and there were many Ministers there and these must bee reformed too and therefore the Apostle would haue him in redressing things amisse amongst them to receiue no accusation against them but vnder two or three witnesses So that there must bee one aboue the rest for the performance of this Duty the same Reason may bee proportionably applied for this as for the former for seeing some ministers must bee redressed then there must be some that must haue this power to doe it and who are they but Bishops that are in the chiefest places I doe not ascribe to Bishops hereby any absolute power ouer their Brethren as to doe what they list but a limited power to proceed with the approbation of their Brethren neither say I that these were simply Diocesan Bishops as ours are but surely they were such as had some compasse of iurisdiction allotted them wherein were many Congregations at least many Ministers whom these did ouer-see Those of the Presbytery haue one that is chiefe amongst them and so is the confession of the Reformed Churches And Master Caluin himselfe confesseth as much that in the ancient Church there were such Superiours and saith further that their proceedings were not contrary to the Word yea and hee shewes and approues the reason why such were chosen and that was of purpose to preuent dissention which by equality would arise Mistake me not as if I did meane to settle in Bishops any Princely authority or Lordlike command neither he nor they nor I intend it but that at least there must be one superiour and aboue the rest for order-sake For so it must needs be in all Companies and Societies whatsoeuer else it cannot stand There were many Ministers in Ephesus Act. 20.28 And so Act. 15.35 we reade of many that were in the Church of Antioch and some of them are named Act. 13.1 Now what disorder would there haue been in these Churches if one had not been aboue the rest What danger of Schisme would there haue been How could matters haue been decided amongst them Who should there haue been to haue moderated their actions The freest State that euer was hath one Superiour aboue the rest as Venice hath her Duke Rome hath her Consuls c. yea the Apostles themselues exercised this order amongst themselues some in one Cause was Moderator some in another Nay I adde further that they exercised power though not ouer themselues for they were all equall yet ouer other Ministers Therefore the thing is not vnlawfull in it selfe if it bee moderately and lawfully vsed And the order which I pleade for I would not haue thought a bare Title but such as is armed with some kind of power too which is conferred on them by them which chose them to such places But you will say all this is tolerable if it were but for one Action or for one yeare I answere that surely the lawfulnesse is all one bee it for a yeare or for a mans life only there is lesse danger of abusing such a place if they be limitted to a shorter time And so much of the first Office namely Bishops where yee haue heard first of their Name and secondly of their Office Now wee come in the second place to Presbyters or Elders for so the word Presbyter in the Originall signifies an Elder and they were so called either as they were Ministers or as they were ancient in yeares or at least in carriage or because they were more ancient in grace and in begetting others to the Faith We speake here of such as labour in the Word and Doctrine for of such as are pretended to be gouerning Elders we shall speake in the next place This name wee find also to bee generall to all in the Ministery from the highest to the lowest yea euen the Apostles themselues are so called so Peter calls himselfe an Elder 1 Pet. 5.1 yet by vse for the most part both in Scripture as Act. 15.4 and the 14.23 and in other Writers it is restrained to those that are assigned to teach in some particular Congregation sometimes many of them together sometimes one by himselfe as times and occasions serued Their Office in regard of the maine essentiall duty is to feed and therefore they are called Pastors Ephes 4.11 Hee gaue some to be Apostles c. and some Pastors c. And to this duty they are often exhorted in Scripture 1 Pet. 5.1 2. The Elders which are amongst you I beseech feed the Flocke of God c. Act. 20.28 Take heed therefore vnto your selues and to all the Flocke whereof the holy Ghost hath made you Ouer-seers to feed the Church of God c. And this feeding consists chiefly in two things that is first to teach secondly to rule and gouerne they must bee acknowledged to haue as absolute power and authoritie from God for both these duties within their Charge as the Bishops in theirs for euery Presbiter is a Feeder that is both a Teacher a Ruler within his Charge It is true that Presbyters haue bin most vniustly scantled abridged by Canons and Councels of this part of their office that consists in ruling and gouerning too much hath been taken from them that Bishops might be aduanced the more To speake more particularly of their Office it consists in many particulars First they are to teach the Word that is both to expound it and to apply it and whatsoeuer particulars of exhorting reprouing comforting c. are set downe in Scripture they are to bee referred to this head they were all exercised by the Apostles and Euangelists and are so to bee by euery Minister or Elder within his Charge that which is spoken of Paul to Timothy 2 Tim. 4.2 is spoken to all Ministers Preach the Word bee instant in season and out of season improue rebuke exhort c. And there is reason for it for the Word being committed to euery Pastor to bee ministred by them and that being profitable to teach to conuince to correct as it is in the 2 Tim. 3.16 therefore there is power and charge in them to handle it euery way for the edification of the Church Secondly they are to administer the Sacraments for that also being charged vpon the Apostles Mat. 28.19 was intended to all the Ministery as well as the Word and in the 1 Cor. 10.18 The Cup of blessing which we blesse c. there is the other Sacrament and the Apostle makes it
Church So that in Ioh. 21. where our Sauiour saith three times to Peter Feede my sheepe c. What a slight ground is this to build the headship of the Church vpon And if they aske then why Christ should thus presse it vpon Peter so often The Fathers answer them that it is onely a speciall charge binding to Duty not any vniuersall authority or iurisdiction pressed thrice vpon him for his former threefold deniall of Christ that so hee might be the more carefull for the time to come else the charge is alike to all the rest of the Apostles for shall wee think that any of them were not bound to feede the sheepe of Christ as well as he The Apostle giues this charge to all Ministers 1 Pet. 5.2 Feed the flocke of God c. Yea but Peter is the Rocke and vpon this Rocke Christ will build his Church Matth. 16.18 I answer if the Church were built vpon Peter then it was either built vpon his person or vpon his Confession but it was not built vpon his person for then when he died the Church must haue failed too Therfore the place must be vnderstood of Peters confession or of his faith or of that Christ which he confessed Christ built his Church on the confession of Peters faith because himself was the substance of his confession c. Peters confession of his faith is the Rocke in making knowne the Church But Christ himselfe is the Rocke as being the substance of that his confession so that the Church is not built vpon Peters person And if it had what is that to the Pope Vnlesse they can proue these two things First that Peter sate at Rome as head of the vniuersall Church secondly that hee intended to leaue his headship to the Pope of Rome and to none other which is a meere fancie and deuice of their owne braine for which they haue no colour So then Christ neuer gaue Peter much lesse the Pope this headship Secondly as Christ neuer did giue it so he saith expressely he neuer will giue it Luk. 22.25 26. Our Sauiour saith to his Disciples that it was enough for the Gentiles to be Lords and to raigne one ouer another but it shall not bee so amongst you saith he so that Christ checks them for hauing but a conceit of superiority so far is he from giuing it to any of them Further this being a great part of Christs glory as he is Mediator to be head of his Church hee will not giue it to any other Isai 48.11 My glory will I not giue to another And as Christ neuer gaue this nor meant to giue it to any other so no man is able to weeld or sway it no more than any one temporall Gouernor can rule all the Kingdomes in the world no this power is reserued onely to him that made the whole world and all things therein So that we see they ouer-reach in saying the Pope is the head of the vniuersall visible Church Secondly they ouer-reach as far in saying he is the head if you aske them what head they meane They will say onely a ministeriall head vnder Christ heere is some shew of modesty But aske them further what power they ascribe to him And then they bewray themselues for they say that the gouernment of the whole Church through the world depends on him that he hath power and authority to iudge and determine of all causes of Faith and Religion to rule Councells to order Bishops and Pastors to excommunicate and to suspend and to inflict other penalties vpon offenders yea whatsoeuer concerneth either preaching of Doctrine or the practice of Discipline in the Church of Christ the power of gouerning in all such causes they say lies in the Pope Is this to be a ministeriall head This is rather to be an absolute supreame head If by head they meant onely some chiefe Gouernour the name head in that sense might agree to some one man in respect of some one particular place for so the Scripture vseth the word in other cases in the 1 Cor. 11.3 The man is the womans head c. But neuer in this case for a man to be the head of the whole Church This transcendent power by them ascribed to the Pope is a great part of Christs owne power and can neuer agree to any man in the world for Christ is the onely Doctor of his Church Mat. 23.8 10. How then can the Pope determine all matters of faith and religion Is not this to make him a great Doctor yea the onely Doctor No say they for hee doth it but vnder Christ But he doth it of himselfe if the Pope in controuersies would take Christs booke and vse prayer to God for direction therein and in humility and sincere loue of the Truth would examine euery cause and so iudge there were some hope that he would doe many things well and that he would iudge rightly as in Christs stead and so honour his Master and doe good seruice to the Church But first he takes no such course but mingles with the word and vseth his owne Canons in stead of the word and he is so farre from vsing prayer to God for direction as that he presumes the truth is tyed to his Chayre and therefore that he cannot erre in any of his Sentences likewise hee is sinisterly affected to the Truth framing it to the state and practice of his owne Church and accordingly hee iudges and pronounces Secondly if he should take the former course yet his reach is not infinite hee cannot iudge rightly in all causes of faith and religion for no one man that euer was Christ Iesus onely excepted and his Apostles that was able to iudge of all Truth Therefore euery Pope in particular must be at least as one of the Apostles nay he must be as Christ is For if the Apostles could doe it yet they had fellowes Paul as well as Peter could do this But the Pope is without any fellow yea he will take vpon him to iudge of the Apostles owne Doctrine and writings so that though he pretends to be Peters successor only yet vpon the point he takes on him to be Peters Master euen to be Christ so proues himself to be very Antichrist yea and he not onely takes vpon him Christs Office but he takes his name vpon him also hee calls himselfe the chiefe Shepheard which name is proper to Christ onely 1 Pet. 5.4 What is this but to step into the throne of Christ But they except against vs and say doe you finde fault with vs for saying the Pope is the head of the Church Why you your selues make the King supreame head of the Church I answer how do we say the King is the head of the Church as they say the Pope is No but wee say the King is the head of the Church within his iurisdiction to see Gods religion maintained Answ and to see the
the true Church and Christ and his Apostles must be Heretikes Lastly for vnitie and consent that is no Note vnlesse it be vnity and consent in the faith and sauing truth of God so that still all their Notes runne vpon this maine point of Faith and sauing Truth which is our Note For how doth the Church of Rome know her selfe to be a true Church Surely by the Word whereby they proue that shee was once a true Church that is the ground of all So that their Notes of Antiquitie Succession Multitude and Vnitie or Consent came in but to second that prouing by these that therefore she is so still because by the Word it is proved first that she hath been a true Church and so that she cannot erre doe they not labour by all might and maine to proue it by the Word that so their Church may be yeelded to be Catholike so that still they iustifie their Church by the Word as well as they can as that being indeed the onely witnesse to iustifie any Church by Also if an heresie arise how doe they disproue it but by the Word principally So that still the Word by their owne practice whatsoeuer for a shift and for contention-sake they professe is the best and truest witnesse of a true or a false of a Catholike or Hereticall Church yea they themselues put these very things into the definition of a true visible Church that is the VVord and the Sacraments and Profession and that chiefly as Bellarmine therefore by their owne confession we that haue these markes are more certainely a true visible Church than they that haue any other markes whatsoeuer So much for the reproofe of these aduersaries that except against this Doctrine Vse 2 The second Vse is for confirmation to vs that our standing is good in this Church because wee haue the true markes of a visible Church I say not that we haue a pure Church free from all corruption we must pray against the corruptions of it but I say we haue a true Church for we haue the VVord as truly and sincerely preached in our Church as in any Church and so we haue the Sacraments rightly administred and if I should grant that any thing were miscarried by the wearing of a Garment or such like thing yet it hurts not the thing it selfe And so for Obedience it is true that many doe not professe obedience but rather prophanenesse and yet some there are that doe professe truly and sincerely Therefore let vs not doubt of our standing but that it is good and let vs praise God for these good meanes and labour to profit by them lest God take them from vs and giue them to others that shall bring forth better fruits than wee haue done And so much bee spoken of the Notes and Markes whereby a true visible Church is discerned The fourteenth Lecture of the Church WEe haue spoken as you may remember concerning the Church visible first of the Definition of it secondly of the causes of it thirdly of the memhers of it fourthly of the notes and markes of it Now wee are to speake in the fifth place according to the order set downe of the gouernment of it And it followes orderly for when we haue seene what this Church is and the causes whereby it is and the members whereof it consists and the notes and markes whereby it is discerned from all other companies then it followes orderly to know in the next place what gouernment this Church hath first whether it hath any at all and secondly if it haue any to know what gouernment this is that is the point then wee are to speake to namely Church gouernment A point in my iudgement that in regard of it selfe needs not to be so exactly looked into and precisely stood vpon now as heretofore but yet in regard of many vnhappy differences and inconueniences that haue risen about it and beene occasion●d by it in the Church of God therefore to satisfie the Consciences of some that are weake and to stoppe the mouthes of others that are clamorous humourous and peruerse and to maintaine peace and vnity in the house of God and to iustifie the State of all reformed Churches professing the sauing faith of Iesus Christ that howsoeuer they differ from one another in the matter of Church-gouernment as some haue many faylings and sore blemishes in their Gouernment yet all are true Churches of God I say in these respects I know not any one point of Religion not fundamentall so necessary to bee throughly sought into and aduisedly and duely to bee considered of Therefore in this regard I purpose to speake of it as God shall enable mee That which I purpose to speake concerning this point I will reduce to these heads First I will speake of the harmes and euils that haue beene raised and that haue happened by this question of Church-Gouernment secondly I will shew what is meant by Church-Gouernment thirdly I will shew how needefull it is in the Church Fourthly whether there bee a precise Rule left by the Apostles for this Gouernement Fifthly if there bee not then what is to bee done in this case Hee that resolues mee in these points resolues mee of all that can bee spoken concerning Church-Gouernment Wee will beginne therefore with the first point The harmes and euils that haue been raised vp in Gods Church hereby Infinite are the euils which this matter of Church-Gouernment hath occasionally bred and brought forth in the Church of God I say occasionally not of it selfe for the thing in its owne nature is holy and good and therefore naturally can yeeld no such bad fruits but occasionally as being abused by the malice of Satan and the corruption of mans heart hence it is that it brings forth such bad effects The fault is partly in the Gouernours and partly in the gouerned First the Gouernors sometimes when they bee proud and hauty contemning their inferiours striuing with equals aspiring to the highest places as is euident in the Papall gouernment And some tokens of bad Gouernours the Scriptures giue vs as Couetous giuen to filthy Lucre abusing their places and Authority to their owne priuate gaine negligent and carelesse like Gallio in the Acts making no conscience of the faithfull execution of their Office Secondly there are faults in those that are Gouerned some ambitiously seeking for higher places than they are fit for some are enuious maligning and spiting their superiours some are sensuall despising Gouernment some are ill-tongued speaking euill of those in Authority some are obstinate and rebellious resisting their orders and proceedings and will not endure their necke vnder any yoke Lastly some are humourous and peeuish denying that power set ouer them to bee lawfull labouring for innouations and changes and new platformes of gouernment of their owne deuising contrary to that already established These and the like Aduantages hath the enemy from time to time wrought vpon
Lord will be altogether with vs to saue and defend vs and altogether against our enemies to confound and destroy them The three and twentieth LECTVRE of the CHVRCH HAuing propounded nine seuerall heads to be spoken to concerning the visible Church wee haue through Gods assistance spoken of seuen of them It remaines therefore now that wee come to the eighth namely the power and authority of the Church A point which was named and pointed at before amongst the Priuileges of the Church For surely the power that God hath endued the Church withal is none of her smallest priuileges if it be not one of her greatest as the greatest priuilege of a King is his Kingly power and authority then wee pointed at it but wee respited the full handling of it to this place partly because in the beginning wee propounded it as one of the principall heads in this question but especially because it is both large and waighty large and so requires waighty and so deserues worthily to be handled in a seuerall Title by it selfe it hath also some affinity neernesse with the fifth head namely the Gouernment of the Church for many of the same things that are incident to the Gouernment of the Church are also incident to the authority of it and such things wee will onely touch as wee meete with them referring you for further knowledge of them to those places that already they haue beene handled in But there are somethings belonging to the power of the Church which could not so fitly be reduced to the gouernment of the Church and these are the points which God willing here wee will speake vnto The power and authority of the Church I call it power and authority for in effect they are both one It is true that they are sometimes distinguished and then this is the difference power signifies an ability to doe a thing and authority a warrant from God to exercise that ability but here they signifie one and the same thing and the reason is plaine because the Church of all other sorts doth absolutely deny her selfe to haue any power to do ought but that which she hath authority and warrant from God to doe The points that I will speake of concerning this matter are these First that the Church of God hath power and authority belonging to it Secondly what manner of power and authority this is And thirdly what it is that shee hath power in First that there is power and authority belonging to the Church for howsoeuer she be weak in outward forces and contemptible in the eyes of the world and for the most part spurn'd out ouer-borne and troden vnder foote by the Potentates of the earth and for the mannaging of any temporall administration or state able to doe little and warranted to doe lesse yet if she be taken within her owne element that is in Church affaires she is armed with much power and great authority euery State and society hath power and authority annexed to it whereby it is vpholden the Church then being the worthiest State and happiest Society that is hath it Reas 1 much more for there are many offices and duties of diuers kindes and sorts daily and necessarily to be performed in the Church wel-doers must be encouraged sinne must be punished lawes must be executed orders must be obserued and obedience must be practised these and such like must be daily performed in the Church Now without power nothing can be done and without authority nothing must be done And therefore the Church must haue power and authority Againe the Reas 2 greatest and waightiest workes that are done in the world are done in the Church the conscience commanded soules conuerted comforted and saued Gods owne life wrought into the hearts of men Christ and his Kingdome of grace that is highly aduanced Satans kingdome and his power quailed and subdued therefore the Church must needes haue great power to effect such great workes Lastly shee must haue this power Reas 3 and authority that shee may be able to hold vp her head against her aduersaries that doe commonly and ordinarily except against her saying By what authority doe you these things as they did to our Sauiour Matth. 22.23 and to Moses Exod. 2.14 Who made thee a man of authority c. so that except shee be furnished with sufficient authority there is no hope that they or their proceedings should finde any acceptance the people were astonished at Christs Doctrine because he taught with authority and not as the Scribes Mat. 7. Mar. 1.27 hee commands euen the foule spirits with authority and they obey him as who should say if he had not commanded them with authority they would neuer haue obeyed him they would know good cause why first This serues first to incourage the Church to the doing of Vse 1 her duty in excecuting Gods Lawes and in aduancing his ordinances seeing shee hath power sufficient in her owne hands to strengthen and countenance her preceedings and to make them effectuall It would neuer grieue a man to bestow time and labour in good endeauours though with much danger and with many opdositions when hee knowes before-hand that he hath power and authority enough to be beare him out in it therefore this should encourage the Church in her duty heerein And also this serues to reproue those that Vse 2 lightly esteeme of the Church and of that which shee doth as if they were nothing worth but let such know that the Church is a powerfull worker and that that Doctrine which she teacheth is a word of great power able to saue or to destroy and the Censures that she passeth are Censures of power able to kill or giue life and whosoueuer withstandeth these shall finde them matters of power to their destruction in hell if they be obstinate but whosoeuer obeyes them shall finde power enough in them to bring them to God and to his Kingdome So much for that first point The second point is what manner of power this is for this wee must looke well into lest mistaking wee goe too farre or come too short each being a dangerous error you shall vnderstand therefore that this power is not humane but diuine Secondly not temporall but spirituall Thirdly that though it be spirituall yet it is bounded and limited First it is not humane that is it is not of men though they be men that exercise it and howsoeuer where it is publikely practised it is vsually and needfully ratified at least permitted by the authority of the temporall State yet it hath not his power from men but it is diuine and hath his power directly from God himselfe the first beginnings of this power is from him as wee may see Matth. 10.1 to 5. where our Sauiour calls his Disciples and giue them power to preach to cast out diuels and to heale the sicke c. and the promise of more power is also from God as his
owne free gift Matth. 16.19 I will giue vnto thee the keyes of the Kingdome of heauen and whatsoeuer thou shall binde on earth shall be bound in heauen And so the performance of more power is from him as deriued from his owne Pattent Matth. 28.18.19 Goe teach all Nations c. teaching them to obserue all things and lo I am with you to the end of the world The Church is furnished with power from Christ euen as hee is from his father Ioh. 20 21.22 As my Father sent mee euen send I you c. and yet a more full increase of this power is from God too Luke 24.49 Behold I send the promise of my father vpon you but tarry yee in the City of Ierusalem vntill ye be endued with Power from on high And Acts 1.8 yee shall receiue power after that the Holy Ghost is come vpon you These places proue that the Power which the Church is endued withall is not humane but diuine conferred God himselfe And the Reason is plaine because all Power is from Reas 1 God Rom. 13.1 And there is no power but from aboue as our Sauiour tells Pilate he could haue no power except it were giuen him from aboue If all power euen the power which the wicked haue be from God much more is the power and authority which the Church hath from God too And that after a speciall manner so much the more immediately as the Church is more nearer ioyned to Christ then any other State whatsoeuer And to much the more rightly as Christ is more rightly a spiritual King then a temporall as Ioh. 18. my Kingdome is not of this world c And so much the more properly as Christ is the head and ruler of the Church more properly then of the Commonwealth And so much the more effectually as the Lord doth more magnifie himselfe in Church causes then in causes of the State This teacheth first that if the power and authority Vse 1 which the Church hath be from God then we haue the more and greater assurance that it shall stand fast for euer against all oppositions of men or Diuels as Gamaliel said Acts 5.38.39 If it be of God yee cannot destroy it if it be of God so directly it must needs stand most firmly aboue all other power whatsoeuer Secondly it teacheth the Church that they bee the Vse 2 more wary and carefull in executing this power that they abuse not Gods owne Power to the satisfying of their owne humors and lusts but that they vse it to that end God hath appointed it that is to his Glory and the Churches good Thirdly seeing this power is so directly from God then this teacheth vs that it must bee the more dutifully obeyed and submitted to of them that liue vnder it else if wee despise it we despise not men but God as it is Luk. 10.16 hee that despiseth you despiseth me c. But you will say Quest Is then the Church to bee obeyed in all things Must all her sayings be beleeued All her lawes obeyed and all her proceedings yeelded to as if they were Gods owne proceedings and so bind the Conscience I answer Answ no for sometimes shee saith false things and doth that which is directly euill and therein we are altogether free from her Authority as that being vsurped and not from God and as shee therein bewraying some frailty and infirmity and not exercising this diuine power But you will say how shall I know when she speakes true or false when shee doth right or wrong I Answer The Lord hath giuen both her and vs the Word to rule and measure things by this is the rule that she must goe by in her proceedings and this is the rule that wee must measure her proceedings by But sometimes the Church inioynes things in themselues indifferent neither simply good nor bad neitheir simply commanded nor forbidden in the word In this the Church is to be yeelded to for order sake as she hauing therin a general power from God but yet the Conscience is not subiect to them because the particular choice and determination of these indifferent things is from themselues out of their own lawfull liberty I note this the rather because some not only in the popish church but among vs too stick not to affirme that the churches constitutions in this latter kind be of diuine authority and to be accoūted as the Constitutions of God himself But I haue shewed you how you are to receiue and to submit to them for order sake in respect of the general power she hath from God in these things The second branch of this second point is that this power is not temporall but spirituall and therefore it is not so often called a Sword to smite or a scepter to sway as Keyes to open and shut and what doth it open and shut Euen the Kingdome of heauen Matth. 16.19 and therefore it is a spirituall Power The Ciuill Magistrate hath to do about our bodies goods and outward State the Church hath to doe with the Soule and Conscience and the inward man Temporall power and authority serues to maintaine a temporall Life begun and ended here spirituall Power and Authority maintaines a spirituall Life begun here but perfected and finished hereafter in the life to come Temporall power rules by the lawes of men spirituall Power rules onely by the Lawes of God temporall power fights and defends it selfe by the materiall Sword and worldly Policy Spirituall Power renounceth these and therefore Christ said to Peter Mat. 26.52 put vp thy Sword into his place for all that take the Sword shall perish by the Sword Christ would not bee defended by the Sword Spirituall Power betakes it selfe to better Weapons to spirituall and heauenly Weapons 2 Cor. 10.4 5. the Weapons of our warfare saith the Apostle are not carnall but spirituall mighty through God c they are not carnall but spirituall not weake but mighty and that not of themselues nor through the power of him that vseth them but through God And what are these weapons They are the Word and the Spirit Faith Repentance Prayer c. It is true that sometimes both these Powers do concur together in the Church that is when the Magistrate is Christian and surely then Gods worke goeth happily forward and then this is a blessed thing both for our Soules and bodies too if wee haue grace so to vse it but though they doe sometimes concurre yet they are neuer confounded though they be not diuided yet they bee distinguished they must each of them keepe in it 's owne ranke and mannage their seuerall Charges by seuerall administrations The Church is not to vsurpe on the temporal power for that is flatly forbidden Matth. 20.15 16. the Gentiles raigne ouer them but it shall not be so amongst you saith our Sauiour to his Disciples and 1 Pet. 5.3 Be not Lords ouer Gods Heritage Nor is the temporal power to vsurpe the
Spirituall for ye see how Vzziah was stricken with leprosie for medling with the Priests Office 2 Chron. 26.16 to the 19. And it was well hee escaped so for by the law he deserued Death Numb 18.7 The third Branch of the second point is that though it bee a spirituall Power yet it is not vnbounded but it is limited and scantled within the bounds of the Word For the same God that hath set markes and boundes in the earth for the Sea that it shall not ouerflow them Iob 38.11 he hath also prescribed in his Word certaine marks limits and bounds for the power of the Church and so farre the Church must goe and no further The Body and Spouse haue power to doe many things yet still they are to bee ruled by the direction of their Head and Husband And so long as the Church containes herselfe within these bounds and limits it goes well with her God prospers her and he hath promised and will performe a blessing to her but if she goe beyond these bounds and transgresse against God It is a fearefull and dangerous case the bond is broken all flyes a sunder the walls and hedges of the Church are troden downe and the Boare and wild Beasts enter in and spoile and make a prey of all Gods yoke is shaken off and then men runne into strange outragious vnwarrantable and exorbitant Courses fitter for lawlesse Infidels then for Christs Disciples and by this meanes Gods Church will bee degenerate into Synagogues of Satan and Religion turned into Ignorance superstition profanenesse and meere licentiousnesse And by this meanes Anti-Christ himselfe hath clymed vp into the Seate of Christ The reason is plaine in the very like case 1 Sam. 15.23 Because that they haue reiected God and his yoke and gone beyond their bounds therefore God will reiect them and cast them off from being his Church The Church therefore must consider like a modest Spouse that shee hath power indeed but to what to that that shee will and list her selfe No but to that which Christ her husband will haue her to doe so farre as in the exercising of her power shee walkes with God shee may goe on safely and boldly But if when God stayes she will not stay but still goe on forward at her owne perill be it The fourth Branch of the second point is that though it be a bounded and limitted power and authority yet it is the greatest power on earth it reacheth not onely to the people but Kings and Princes must obey it I say they are vnder the power of the Church though they be aboue the persons that exercise this power as may appeare in the Example of Dauid and Nathan the Person of Nathan being subiect to Dauid and yet Dauid subiect to the Power of his reproofe Secondly as it reacheth not onely to the meanest but to the highest so it reacheth not onely to the outward man but euen to the Inward also the very Spirit and Conscience though it be free from all other power yet it is subiect to this I say not to the Church it selfe but to that spirituall and diuine power which it in Christs Name doth exercise Lastly whereas no other authority or power reacheth so high as heauen or so low as hell this power of the Church extends to both it cuts off from God and deliuers ouer to Satan And againe it releases out of Satans lawes and reconciles vs to God and brings vs to heauen So much for the second point what manner of power this is The third and last point is this Namely what is it that the Church hath power in The Church hath a double power one ouer persons and another ouer things ouer persons and that in two respects either as they are members or as they are officers As they are members and that in two respects also either as they are not come into the Church or as they are come in already as they are not come in and that in two respects too either to admit them as members or to repell and refuse them If yee aske who are to be admitted The Answer is all those that are called Acts 2.39 the promise is made to you and your children and to many that are a farre off euen to as many as the Lord our God shall call For seeing the promise belongs to them and so they are for ought wee know within the Couenant then they ought to be admitted into the Bosome of the Church and to bee admitted as members thereof If yee aske how we shall know that they are called The Answer is plaine yee shall know it by their profession of faith in the Church and by their profession of Repentance by their profession of faith as Acts 8.12 37. As soone as they beleeued Philip which preached the things that concerned the Kingdome of God and the Name of Iesus Christ they were baptized both men and women And verse 37. Philip said to the Eunuch If thou beleeuest with all thine heart thou maist be baptized then he answered and said I beleeue that Iesus Christ is the Sonne of God c 38. and he baptized him And so by the profession of Repentance Matth. 3.6 they were baptized of Iohn confessing their sinnes And both these you shall finde together Acts 2.37.38 when they were pricked in their hearts at Peters Sermon they said Men and Brethren what shall we doe to be saued Peter said vnto them Amend your liues and be baptized euery one of you in the Name of the Lord Iesus Christ for the remission of sinnes as if he had said repent and beleeue for amendment of life doth necessarily imply purpose of obedience and so the profession of Repentance is a promise of obedience and this is precisely required Exod. 19.5 to the 8. where the Lord sent to the people of Israel to know whether they would obey him before hee would enter into Couenant with them To which agrees the practice of Iosiah and the people in the case of Reformation or renewing their admission when they had broken their Couenant with God 2 Chron. 34.31 32. he renued the Couenant betwixt God and his people and caused all that were found in Ierusalem and in Beniamin to stand to it If you aske what is the meanes and act of Admission The answer is that it is baptisme Mat. 3.6 Act. 8.37 38 Acts 2.41 they that gladly receiued the Word were baptized and the same day there was added to the Church aboue three thousand Soules Now this Act being once receiued is neuer to bee recall'd though the Couenant be afterwards neglected and broken for one entrance stands good for our whole estate In so much that if I fall after Baptisme and that so greiuously as that I be cut off by the censure of the Church yet if I returne againe the Couenant is to bee renued but not baptisme no more then circumcision in the former Testament was to be renued
in the like case but if men were neuer before baptized then though they bee of yeares of discretion yet they are to receiue Baptisme But whether hath the Church power to compell men to be members No surely faith cannot be forced vpon any yet if the Magistrate be Christian he by his authority may and must compell men to come to the outward meanes else wee deny him the priuiledge of his authority and of our subiection So did Iosiah cause all that were found in Ierusalem and Beniamin to stand to the couenant 2 Chron. 34.32 As they haue power to admit into the Church so they haue power to repell and keepe out and this wee finde to be plaine Acts 8.36.37 See heere is water saith the Eunuch what doth let mee to be baptised Philip said vnto him if thou beleeuest with all thine heart thou may'st c. as who should say where faith is wanting it is a sufficient let to keepe from baptisme and so from being admitted into the Church But what shall children doe then I answer they if they be the seed of the faithfull are pre-supposed to be within the couenant and so they are to be reputed as Gen. 17.7 God saith to Abraham I will establish my Couenant betweene mee and ther and thy seede after thee and Acts 3.29 The promise is made to you and to your children saith the Apostle and so in the 1 Cor. 7.14 The vnbeleeuing wife is sanctified by the beleeuing husband c. else were your children vncleane but now are they holy and therefore where children are tendred by faithfull parents to the Church they must admit them so far as they haue power and that is to baptisme Marke 10.13.14 as it was with circumcision in the time of the Law the children of the faithfull all that were males were circumcised so it is in Baptisme which succeedes in the roome of that all the children of beleeuing parents are to be made partakers of it So you see the Church hath power ouer persons that are not come in and that either to admit or repell them Secondly they haue power ouer persons as they are come in already and that either to keepe them in or to cast them out to keepe them in as in Reu. 3.11 Our Sauiour saith to the Angell of the Church of Philadelphia Hold fast that thou hast that no man take thy Crowne from thee and what was the Angels Crowne but the faithfull in that Church So the Apostle Paul calls the Thesalonians his Crowne and how must hee hold them fast and keepe them in By confirming exhorting reprouing comforting and instructing them bearing with their weaknesse admitting them to the Lords Table and vpon their repentance loosing them from their sinnes So the Church hath power to cast out for their obstinacy in sinne and so to binde them in the chaines of euerlasting damnation that the Church hath this power it is plaine for the Word of God is powerfull each way It is the sauour of life vnto life vnto some to other It is the sauour of death vnto death so the Censures of the Church are wonderfull powerfull Iohn 20.23 whose sinnes yee remit they are remitted and whose sinnes soeuer yee retaine they are retained saith our Sauiour to his Disciples And so we see how the Church did cast out the Incestuous man in 1 Cor. 5.4 5. and how they receiued him in againe in the 2 Cor. 2.7 8. The next point is the power that the Church hath ouer members as officers and herein the Church hath power to choose or refuse to place or displace to choose and place Acts 6.5 and the saying pleased the multitude and they choose Stephen c. to refuse and displace as in Acts 8.21 Peter refused Simon Magus when he would haue bought gifts of the holy Ghost for money and in the 1 Tim. 5.11 refuse younger widdowes c. and in the 1 Kings 2.27 to the 35. we may read how Salomon displaced and cast out Abiather from the Priests office But of this I haue spoken sufficiently before the matter of Church gouernment and therefore as I promised I will referre you thither Now in the second place the Church hath power ouer things and these things are of diuers kindes some are matters of substance some of circumstance the Churches power in matters of stubstance is eyther touching the Scripture it sefe or in things besides the Scripture as touching the Scripture and that is eyther touching the credit and authority of Scripture or the sense of it first of the credit and authority of Scripture which is called into question and much disparaged not onely by those that are without but euen of those that professe themselues to be within and to be members of the Church which should most lighly esteeme it some of of her champions as they pretend challenge at least an equall yea indeed a superiour authority to the Church aboue the Scripture and therefore the point to be discused here is whether the authority of the Church be greater then the authority of the Scripture It is not denyed but that the Church hath some authority concerning Scripture as wee shall heare afterward but that it hath authority equall with or aboue Scripture is not to be granted I will draw this point into an obseruation Doctr. which shall be this That howsoeuer the Church of God is endued with great power and authority from aboue yet the authority of the Church is not greater then the authority of the Scripture no it is not equall with it but the authority of the Scripture is greater and higher then the authority of the Church here are two parts of this obseruation First that the authority of the Church is not greater then of the Scripture secondly that the authority of Scripture is greater then of the Church the same places that proue one proue both Ioh. 4.39 The woman of Samariah hauing had conference with our Sauiour and beleeuing him to be the Messiah she went and told it in the Citty and it is said in the 39. verse that many of the Samaritans beleeued in Christ for the saying of the woman but it is said in the 41. verse that many moe beleeued because of Christs owne words The voyce of the woman what is it but the voyce of the Church shee beleeuing in Christ her selfe propounds him vnto others which is the Office of the Church in this case well the people beleeued for her saying but doe they rest vpon that as the chiefest authority of their faith No for verse 41. many moe beleeued for his owne word and verse 42. they that did beleeue for the saying of the woman acknowledge a greater and surer cause of their faith disclayming the former as insufficient now say they wee beleeue not for thy saying for wee haue heard him our selues and know that this indeede is that Christ the Sauiour of the world and is not Christs voyce to
be beleeued besides the Word Gal. 1.8 Reas 6 Lastly the practice of the faithful is answerable to this both of teachers and learners the Teachers they haue referred the people still for certaine proofe of the truth to the Scriptures Esa 8.20 to the law and to the testimony if they speake not according to this Word it is because they haue not light in them Acts 10.43 to him giue all the Prophets witnesse saith Peter to Cornelius referring the truth hee taught to be tryed by the Scripture and so this hath beene the practice of the learners Acts 17.11 12. The men of Berea seached the Scriptures to try whether the things were so as Paul had taught them and yet Paul was a principall member of the Church and in his Doctrine hee was specially guided by the Spirit more then euer any Church was since and the Bereans are commended for this and not accounted curious So that the Teachers and the Learners haue still referred themselues for the tryall of the truth to the Scriptures and not to the Church and therefore the authority of the Scripture is greater then the authority of the Church Yea Obiect but you will say so the Scriptures are vsually referred to the censure of other Scripture and yet that is no proofe that therefore one Scripture is of greater authority then another how then doth this proue that the Scripture is of greater authority then the Church I answer Answ yes It proues the first ponit of the obseruation plainely that is that the Church is not aboue the Scripture which is the maine controuersie Nay if it be well considered it proues the second point of the obseruation that the authority of the Scripture is greater then that of the Church I say it proues it as sufficiently though not at the first sight so plainely for still in euery kinde there must be one highest which all the rest must settle vpon else there will be no stay at all but we shall runne on infinitely and without end now the Scripture or the Church is the highest thing in this kinde whereon we are to rest for they cnanot be equall then the Scriptures must needs be highest and if they be referred to any at all it must be to themselues for there is none greater nor higher as in the matter of an oath Heb. 6.13 to 16. men sweare by him that is greater then them selues But God sweares by himselfe because there is none greater to sweare by So likewise the Church is referred to the Scripture for trial because the Scripture is higher then the Church but Scripture is referred to Scripture because there is none higher to be referred to nor there cannot be two highests in one kinde for that is against nature and reason too and therefore when the sayings of the Church are referred to the approbation of Scripture it is the referring of them to an higher and so the authority of the Scripture is greater then the authority of the Church The vses are these The first is matter of refutation Vse 1 against the Papists that vsually disparage the holy Scriptures and set them downe too low and doat on the Church aduancing it too high their reach therein is not so much the loue they beare to the Church it selfe but that thereby they might exalt themselues and their owne Church and that their faith might be reputed the onely true sauing faith because their Church teacheth it So that God and his Word must goe downe that they might be lifted vp but if it be true that the Church were aboue the Scriptures yet except they can proue their Church to be the only true Church of God which they are neuer able to doe it helps not their cause It is strange to see and heare what monstrous and blasphemous speaches and positions many of them haue deliuered to this purpose as that the Scripture is of no more authority without the approbation of the Church then Esops Fables Oh horrible blasphemie there are some others of a better kinde that are more modest that say that the Scriptures are to be fitted to the times and the sense thereof is to be altred as the times alter others there are that say that the Churches are not bound to take the Scriptures as true without the allegation of the Church and that the Church hath authority to reiect or allow Scripture and that yee may know that by the Church they meane their Romish church and by that the Pope hearken how blasphemously they ascribe vnto him all power in heauen and in earth that hee may dispence against the Apostles and their Canons and against all the commandements of God in the old and new Testament c. Here the world may see that the church of Rome is that whore of Babilon an impudent and shamelesse strumpet that sets such a brasen face and belches out such whorish filthy blasphemies against God and his Word the very naming of these positions is refutation enough for them in any Christians iudgements To come to their best positions in this controuersie Position 1 First the Church say they is supreme Iudge in all controuersies of Religion but yee see by this obseruation that it is not so God is higher and the Scripture is higher the Spirit indeede is the Iudge and the highest Iudge speaking openly and plainely in in the Word and secretly in the minde and heart of euery beleeuer 1. Ioh. 2 20 27. you haue anoyntment from that holy one and know all things And againe the same anoynting teacheth you of all things Obiect yea but say they are not men sent to the Priests to enquire at their mouhes Mal. 2.7 and is not the Priest the highest Iudge then Answ I answer What are wee to goe to the Priests for for the Law not for their owne Iudgement whereto if they speake wee are to receiue it yet not because it is their saying but Gods Law but happly they can deliuer no other but Gods Law that is flatly contradicted verse 8. where the Prophet saith that they are gone out of the way and haue caused many to fall by the Law yea but say they the high Priest was the Iudge as wee may see Deut. 17.8 12. But hee was to iudge according to the Law as we may see in Vers 11. so that except they will arrogate more to themselues then the messengers of the Lord of hoasts did vnder the law they cannot be Iudge nor Iudges of the Scripture The second position of theirs is this Position 2 That whatsoeuer the Church saith we must take it as a Law and obey it It is true that whatsoeuer the Church saith according the Law and Word of God we must obey it not otherwise The Scribes and Pharises were to bee obeyed as they sate in Moses chaire that is as they taught his Doctrine Matth. 23 2 3. but if they transgresse and bring in the precepts of men and their owne traditions
to the word and the Spirit There must be a perswasion in vs that the Word is of God else there is no profit by it 1 Thessa 2.3.2 Peter 1.19 20. 2 Tim. 3.16 And therefore still the Preface of the Prophets is Verbum Domini And so much shall seue to be spoken concerning the authority of the Scripture The foure and twentieth LECTVRE of the CHVRCH COncerning the power of the Church yee haue heard how it extends it selfe to persons and things for so we diuided it for our more easier proceeding in the point that which concernes persons wee haue already spoken of And that which concernes the thing wherein the Church hath power wee haue entred into and shewed that they are of two sorts eyther matters of circumstance or matters of substance The Churches power in matters of substance are eyther in matters touching Scripture or besides Scripture touching Scripture and that I shewed was of two sorts eyther touching the authoritie of Scripture or the sense of Scripture Of the authority of Scripture we spake in the last Lecture Now wee are to speake of the sense of Scripture which wee shall be the longer in handling because looke what was wanting in the former point shall be here supplyed Touching this point what authority the Church hath in the sense of Scripture it is as materiall and as difficult a point as the former First as materiall for after we are made acquainted which the letter of Scripture so that we know which are Canonicall bookes written by the Infallible direction of the Holy Ghost and that euery thing contained in them is the vndoubted truth of God wee are still as far to seeke in matters of faith as before till we proceed further and be acquainted with the sense and meaning of Scripture for the Word of God is not so much the letter as the sense and the Scripture is not so much the bare written word as the right meaning and vnderstanding of that which is written That what a man saith is his speech indeed in common acceptation But yet if it bee not taken in the sense hee meanes it he will and may iustly disclaime as none of his speech A mans meaning is contained in his words as the things signified in the signe because words are the signification of our meaning but the subiect of them wherein it properly rests and is seated is the breast of the speaker So the Word of God is in the Scripture as the signe whereby God signifies his meaning but the subiect of them wherein properly the meaning of them restes is in God himselfe so that this is a materiall point to be knowne Secondly it is as difficult a point as the former for after we heare which is the right letter of Scripture it is as difficult to know which is the right sense as before it was to know which was the right letter for the same words sometimes haue diuers significations and one and the same sentence may be vnderstood many wayes and diuers men are of diuers minds expounding one and the same Scripture diuers wayes euery man abounding in his owne sense the true beleeuer expounding it to the maintenance of the true Catholique faith the Heretique to the maintainance of his Heresie Yea among and true beleeuers themselues one interprets the same words to that opinion that he fauours and another to a contrary that he fauours What is to be done in this case The Church is here thrust vpon vs as the onely or chiefest vmpyre in these differences and that alone to be the true sense which shee pronounceth And surely I see not but that the Church may as probably and plausibly challenge authority to deliuer which is the meaning of Scripture as which is the letter of Scripture We haue giuen the Church her due touching the former acknowledging her authority in and about the letter of Scripture but not ouer or aboue it and so God willing we will deale as ingenurously in this concerning the sense of Scripture But yet we will limit and bound it within certaine necessary cautions and limitations And that we may doe so we will handle it by way of Obseruation The Obseruation is this Doct. That howsoeuer the Church hath great authority in expounding Scripture yet she must not expound it as shee list and according to her owne minde but according to Gods minde and the meaning of the Scripture it selfe But say some the Church will not nor cannot expound them Ob. but according to Gods minde and therefore this is a needlesse Obseruation I Answer It is true that the Catholique Church that is Answer the whole company of the faithfull cannot do otherwise But particul●r visible Churches may and oft times haue expounded Scripture to their owne minde and not according to Gods minde And therefore it is reason that they should bee thus bounded and limited we will proceed then to the proofes of the obseruation And first I will prooue it by rules And secondly by examples The rules in the Scripture are plaine for this note and that first in generall Esay 8.20 To the law to the Testimony c. whosoeuer is the speaker and whatsoeuer he speakes in matters of God and of Religion and therefore specially in expounding Scripture it must be according to the law and the testimony that is according to the meaning that God intendeth therein and so in the 1 Peter 4.11 the Apostle saith Let him that speakes speake as the words of God that is in Gods sense As in generall all must thus speake Gods Word so specially the Preacher or whosoeuer that takes vpon him to expound Gods Word he must speake it as the Word of God that is not onely for the manner of it reuerently and zealously as becomes the Word of God but for the matter much more that is in the same sense that God himselfe hath spoken it as hee being then in Gods stead and deliuering his message else he speakes his owne words not Gods Secondly more particularly Iohn 5 39. Search the Scripture saith our Sauiour he doth not bide them take the Scriptures and reade them and giue what sense of them they thinke good But he bids them search them that is examine them and consider aduisedly of them lay them rightly together weigh one place wel with another and make diligent inquiry after the sense reach that God intends in them And so we shall find that they are first witnesses of Christ and then that they are helpes to eternall life See it yet more neerely Rom. 12.6 Let vs prophesie according to the proportion of faith saith the Apostle whereby prophecy is expresly meant interpretation of Scripture for so it is taken in the 1 Cor. 14.3.31 and that is to be framed according to the proportion or Analogy of faith which whether it be meant of faith contained in the Creede or of the measure of faith that God hath endued vs with all yet still
yet of his owne by possession and feeling and therefore euery man must haue iudgement of his owne too for faith without iudgement is blinde presumption And must I not rest on my faith in that sense And why not on mine owne iudgement too that is on Gods Iudgement which he hath endued my minde and soule withall Obiect 6 Lastly it is obiected This is strange say they wee heare them confesse that euery man though he be neuer so much inlightned yet he is subject to error and yet euery one of them assures himselfe hauing one Answ no more warrant then another that hee is in the truth I answer so farre as wee haue full assurance that wee are in the truth that is in matters fundamentall so farre wee doe acquit all the faithfull from being subiect to error finally and therefore this is no strangenesse at all And so much concerning this point The fiue and Twentieth LECTVRE of the CHVRCH COncerning the power of the Church we haue heard that it reacheth to persons and things for so we diuided it for plainenesse sake concerning Persons we haue done concerning things we haue entred into them and shewed that the things wherin the Church hath power are either matters of substance or matters of circumstance matters of substance and that either touching Scripture or besides Scripture touching Scripture and that either touching the authority or sense of Scripture Of these two last points wee haue spoken namely concerning the power of the Church touching the authority and sense of Scripture Now wee are to speake of matters besides Scripture which is the last point concerning matters of substance that is the point we are now to speake to matters beside Scripture for though in deede and in truth there is nothing to be held in matters of substance in Religion but what is sufficiently warranted by the Word either expressely or at least by sound consequence and deduction yet because some haue fondly imagined and confidently auouched that such things there are and that it is in the Churches power to ordaine them and because some churches haue vsurped and incroached vpon more authority in this case then euer was granted or comitted to them from God therefore in handling the authority of the Church this point also amongst the rest is needfull to be spoken vnto Matters of substance in Religion are of two sorts some concerning faith teaching vs what to know and beleeue others concerning obedience prescribing vs what to do and practise in each of these the Church hath a great hand where the light of Scripture goes before and where shee followes the Doctrine thereof accordingly but where the Scripture is silent in any thing of either or both these kindes there the Church must be silent too and not desire to speake Wee will deliuer the matter plainly by way of obseruation and that is this namely Doct. that the Church hath no power to decree and ordaine any matter of substance in Religion eyther for faith or for obedience without or besides the Scripture The places that prooue this point are of diuers kindes for plainenesse sake wee will reduce them to these heads first some places ascribe this authority to God alone the second sort commends vs to the sufficiency of the Scripture in it selfe the third sort condemne all adding to Scripture and the last sort condemne all Doctrine so taught The first that ascribe this authority to God alone they are these Iames 4.12 there is one Law-giuer which is able to saue and to destroy and what is it to ordaine matters of substance in Religion but to giue Lawes Lawes I say of the highest kinde such as we must liue and be saued by and who is it that giues these Lawes hee onely that is able to saue and to destroy for so the Law-giuer is there described which being peculiar to God alone hee alone must be the Law-giuer Now the Lawes that God hath giuen are contained in the Scriptures which are therefore called the Word of God because therein God hath deliuered his minde and meaning therefore besides those in Scripture no other Lawes are to be ordained for matters of substance in Religion another proofe of this kinde wee haue Matth. 23.8 10. Be not called Doctors and be not called Master for one is your Doctor and Master and who is that but Christ himselfe Now what is it to be our Doctor and to be our Master It is to teach vs what to beleeue and what to doe that wee may be saued therefore Christ being our onely Doctor and Master he alone is to teach and direct vs in matters of Saluation And in Ioh. 1.18 The Office of reuealing God to man is appropriated to Christ hee onely declares him and the reason is there implyed because he onely came out of the bosome of the Father and therefore he onely knowes the minde of his Father and therefore consequently he onely being of ability and authority to declare it so that whosoeuer takes vpon him to reueale any part of the minde of God hee must shew that he comes out of Gods bosome else hee neither must nor can speake in this businesse that Christ himselfe hath already reuealed that is that which is contained in the Scripture Now that we may know that this Rule is inuiolably to be obserued wee must know that all which euer had to deale in matters of saluation were precisely tyed and and confined to this scantling both teachers and hearers Teachers they must teach nothing in this kinde but what Christ in his Word hath first taught The Apostles and in them all Ministers are forbidden to teach any thing but what Christ commands them Matth. 20.28 that and nothing besides that yea the holy Ghost Christs speciall and chiefe Deputy on earth hee is to receiue of Christ and to shew that to the people Iohn 16.14 15. he shall receiue of mine and shew it vnto you And the Text saith in the 14. verse that he shall glorifie Christ in this as who should say if hee teach ought besides it were a dishonour and disparagement to the Lord Iesus much more if any other should doe so and so the hearers they are tyed to this scantling too for so it was prophesied before Deut. 18.15 The Lord thy God will raise vp a Prophet vnto thee like vnto me from among you euen of your brethren vnto him yee shall hearken And this Prophet is Christ as the Apostle Peter proues Acts 3.17 And this was after confirmed by a voyce from heauen Matth. 17.5 This is my welbeloued Sonne in whom I am well pleased heare him And it is the marke of Christs owne sheepe that they will heare his voyce Iohn 10.6.27 and his onely and not a strangers that is whatsoeuer is spoken not according to the voyce of Christ in the Scripture So much for the first sort of Scriptures The second sort that proue this point are such as commend vnto vs the
perfection and sufficiency of Scripture for if the Scriptures containe all things necessary to saluation then what hath the Church to doe in such matters besides Scripture the Church and the Scriptures stand in oposition in this point for that sufficiency being granted to the Scripture it disanulls all such power challenged to the Church and that power being granted to the Church disanulls that sufficiency of Scripture but the Scriptures are sufficient as wee will proue by these places following Iohn 20.31 but these things are written that yee might beleeue that Iesus is the Christ the Sonne of God and that in beleeuing yee might haue life through his name All things that Christ spake and did are not written yet there is enough written for quantity and enough for power to cause vs to beleeue and so to beleeue that we may haue life through his name and therefore sufficient enough for all matters of saluation 2 Tim. 3.16 17. The whole Scripture saith the Apostle is giuen by inspiration from God and is profitable to teach and to conuince to correct and to instruct in righteousnesse that the man of God may be absolute being made perfect vnto euery good worke heere are reckoned vp such speciall works as are most effectuall to teach both faith and obedience and these are ascribed to the Scriptures True say the Papists they are ascribed to the Scriptures as being profitable to these but yet not sufficient yes it is sufficient too for it is so farre profitable to euery one of these that thereby the man of God is made perfect to all good works and is not this as much as if the Apostle had said the Scriptures had beene sufficient for euery matter of saluation and that hee meanes so is plaine in the 15. verse thou hast knowne the Scriptures of a childe which are able to make thee wise vnto saluation so much for the second sort of Scriptures The third sort are such as absolutly forbid any addition or detraction from Scripture as in Deut 4.2 there is an absolute prohibition yee shall put nothing vnto the Word of God which I commend you neither shall ye take ought therefrom and Pro. 30.6 put nothing vnto his Words lest hee reproue thee and thou be found a lyer Reuel 22.18 19. If any man shall adde vnto these things God shall adde vnto him the plagues that are written in this booke and if any man shall take away God shall take away his part out of the booke of life c. Now then if the Church can decree any matter of saluation besides Scripture and not adde to Scripture nor diminish from it then they may haue some colour for it notwithstanding these prohibitions but if that be impossible as it is then this is simply vnlawfull The Apostle amplifies this point by way of comparison Galat. 3.15 If it be but a mans testament no man will adde to it much lesse to the Testament of Christ The last sort of Scriptures are those that condemne all Doctrines so taught eyther without or besides Scripture Esa 29.13 It is a sore complaint which the Lord takes vp against the people there because the Religion they looked to be saued by was taught by the precepts of men and Matth. 15.9 Christ vtterly reiected this worship as vaine and hypocriticall when they teach for Doctrine mens precepts and 1 Tim. 6.3 4. If any man teach otherwise and consenteth not to the wholesome Doctrine of our Lord Iesus Christ he is puft vp and knoweth nothing It is selfe-conceit and grosse ignorance yea and not onely when it comes from an ordinary man but if it come from an Apostle nay an Angel if they should teach any other Gospell not only that is against this but besides this which I haue taught you saith the Apostle hold him accursed Galat. 1.8 9. So that if any either Apostle or Angell from heauen deliuer or teach any other Gospell that is any matter of substance in Religion though it be but besides that which we haue in the Scripture they are accursed And so much for the proofe of the point The reasons are many And the first reason is drawne Reas 1 from the nature of faith which carries alwaies a iust correspondency to the Word of God Rom. 10.17 Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God Faith comes by hearing of whose sayings mans No but the Word of God whatsoeuer God speakes faith heares it and most willingly and sweetly beleeues and embraceth it but what any else saith whether it be man or Church or Angell as it is not powerfull to beget sauing faith so also it is the nature of faith to refuse it or at least to suspect it because it is beside the Word and God speakes it not Secondly The second reason is drawne from the state Reas 2 of conscience which is this God hath endued our conscience through his mercy and ordinance with that freedome and liberty that is in subiection to none but to God onely and therefore whatsoeuer God commands or forbids the conscience well rectified yeelds to it acknowledging the authority of the speaker to be a binding Law which necessarily must be obeyed but when a matter is imposed by man onely without or beside the prescript of God the conscience feeles not the commanding power of God to ouersway it and therefore may and must and doth take the benefit of her liberty and this is it the Apostle saith 1 Corinth 3.23 Be not the seruants of men The third reason is drawne from the property of the Reas 3 things themselues that are to be beleeued and they are matters necessary to saluation and therefore wee must haue such a sure ground and warrant for them as that we may be bold to hazard our saluation vpon them Now the Church being it selfe subiect to error where i● builds not vpon Scripture is vnable therefore to afford any such warrant therefore without and besides Scripture the Church hath no power in such things Reas 4 Fourthly that which the Church doth heerein in ordaning any thing in matters of saluation without or besides Scripture she doth inioyne it with condition of damnation to those that doe not beleeue and obey it Let them be accursed that doe it not but damnation is not to be threatned by any but those that haue power to inflict it but the Church hath no power of her selfe to inflict it and therefore it is ridiculous in her to threaten it The Church indeede threatens it in excommunications but that is not of her selfe but vnder God and in his name who is also able to inflict it as hee is to threaten it in his Word but wee speake heere of matters besides Scripture and therein the Church hath no power at all to inflict no not instrumentally in the lowest degree therefore not to threaten damnation and so consequently not to decree any such things Reas 5 The fifth reason is drawne from a rule of
proportion in like cases Christ himselfe when hee came to teach saluation spake nothing but from the father Iohn 12.49 50. and whatsoeuer the Spirit doth teach hee receiued it from Christ Iohn 16.13 If Christ doe tye himselfe to teach those things and nothing but those things hee receiued from the Father and the Spirit nothing but those things he receiued from Christ then I hope the Church hath not greater liberty in respect of the Scripture then Christ in respect of his Father and the Spirit in respect of Christ Therefore as Christ spake nothing besides that hee heard of his Father and the Spirit nothing but that hee receiued from Christ so by proportion the Church is to speake nothing in matters of saluation besides Scripture Reas 6 Sixthly the Church is to do nothing heerein but by direction and assistance from the Spirit and as it is horrible presumption to say the contrary so the Papists themselues sometimes ingenuously confesse that the Testimony o● the truth consists in the holy Ghost and the Prelates iointly so that it is not in the Church alone without the Spirit And what doth the Spirit teach the Church any new Doctrines or Reuelations No but that which Christ hath reuealed before If ye compare Iohn 14.26 with Iohn 16.13 14 15. you shall finde that the holy Ghost whom Christ promiseth to send shall teach all things that Christ hath taught which be●ng the same which is in the Scripture then the Spirit teacheth the Church nothing besides Scripture And so the Church is able to decree nothing besides the Scripture because shee is able to doe nothing without the Spirit Lastly when things are decreed by the Church are Reas 7 we to receiue them hand ouer head or vpon tryall and examination If ye say ha●d ou●r head without examination that were a gracelesse speech and vtterly vnlawfull being against the rules of the Word 1 Thess 5.21 Trye all things 1 Iohn 4.1 Trye the Spirits If then they must be receiued vpon tryall and Examination how must they be tryed and by what rule Eyther by the Iudgement of the present Church or by the Scripture If ye say by the Church that were to make her Iudge in her owne cause then it must bee examined by the Scripture as the men of Berea did Paules Doctrine Act 17.11 they searched the Scriptures daily whether the things were so as he taught So the things the Church decrees must bee tryed by Scripture and if that cannot approue them as being not there found they are to be reiected and the authority of the Church in imposing them to be disclaimed So we see in reason that the Church hath no power nor authority to decree anything or matter of substance in Religion ●yth 〈◊〉 faith o● for obedience without or besides Scrip●●● The ●irst vs● 〈…〉 of reproofe of sundry Popish practises and positions not to name all For indeede if this point be well vnderstood it razeth and ouer throweth the very foundation of Popery Here then we see first that the Church cannot coyne any new Articles of faith why is any man so gracelesse to doe so yes the Papists doe so And howsoeuer many of them will not seeme to fauour it in word yet their practise makes them guilty of it Pope Pius the fourth propounds a Creede and tyes his children the Papists to it wherein after hee had set downe the twelue articles contained in the Nicene Creede he addeth twelue more of his owne concerning traditions Purgatory c. And these hee will haue acknowledged and vndoubtedly beleeued as the former and is not this to coyne new articles of faith Ob. But say they why may not we doe so as well as you that haue your articles of Religion and all reformed Churches haue their seuerall confessions wherein there are many things besides those in the Creede and yet professed and beleeued Answ as well as they I Answer It is not a like comparison for we though we doe beleeue many things that are not in the Creede yet wee beleeue nothing besides Scripture and that which is soundly proued by Scripture is to be beleeued as well as that in the Creede But theirs are such for the most part as haue little or no shew of Scripture for them but are matters besides Scriptures which they obtrude on the people meerely or at least principally by the authority of the Church But hath the Church then no authority about Articles of Faith newly to be made I Answer No But onely as thus if any article hath beene neglected obscured and layen hidden in former times the places of Scripture whereon it is grounded being not well vnderstood then the Church hath power to declare and publish it vpon the better vnderstanding of such places as it is proued by And this is not to make new articles of faith but to reuiue and renew those that were before and that not beside the word but with and by the word This may be cleared by an Instance The article of Iustification by Faith had lyen hidden for many yeeres before Christ came but when Christ and his Apostles came they reuiued it and yet made no new article of it but the same that was taught from the beginning of the world to come neerer home After that this doctrine was againe obscured lay hid for many yeeres till it pleased God to raise vp Luther and others which brought it forth to that cleare light that it was in in the Apostles times And is this to make new articles No but to reuiue and to bring to light that which had lyen hid a long time And thus far the Church may goe and no further The second Position is this that the Church cannot make any booke to be Canonicall Scripture which is not so of it selfe For this is to ordaine and decree matters of substance in Religion besides Scripture But do the Papists doe this yes they doe and therefore are here to bee reproued for it as being vtterly vnlawfull for them so to doe For first the number of Canonicall bookes are certaine as themselues confesse and therefore no authority can admit more Secondly if the Church hath power to make bookes that are Apocrypha Canonicall then also shee hath power aswell to reiect some that are Canonicall for hee that hath power to build hath also power to destroy And what were this but for the Church to mayme and mangle the Booke of God as shee list her selfe what an horrible wrong were this to God Thirdly the sheepe of Christ heare his voice they doe not make or frame it Lastly as a Gold smith takes a peece of gold and tries it whether it bee right or counterfeit by the touch stone and before he finds it to be true Gold he doth not make it true Gold for if he finde it to be counterfeit all the Gold smiths that are cannot make it true so must the Church cry which are Canonicall
the Scripture the written Word of God and nothing else The Scripture is the onely rule of Faith and of obedience what it teacheth must onely be beleeued and what it commands must onely be obeyed and nothing else as necessary to saluation And generally all Churches acknowledge the Scripture to be the canon yea the Popish Church to his day retaines the name though they cast it out at the backgate yet at the foregate they take it in the Canon that is as much to say as the rule Now what is to be done with a rule All things are to be fitted to it and not it to any thing Carpenters and Masons they fitte their tymber and stone to the rule and not the rule to the tymber or stone so then the Scripture being the rule whatsoeuer is to be beleeued or obeyed must be squared by it and looke how much it comes short or goes beyond or misseth on this hand or that of the rule so much it comes short of true sauing faith and obedience and so much wee goe out of the way of Saluation therefore cast away all other measures as crooked traditions customes c. and sticke fast onely to this rule as to the perfect square of all Religion we must put nothing to Gods Word nor take ought there from this the Lord himselfe commands Deut. 4.2 and 5.32.35 Secondly as this is the rule of faith so it is the tryall of euery truth the Scripture is the onely touch stone of truth if Paul teach the truth it must be tryed by the Scriptures Act 17.11 Let heathen men bring their Paganisme the Turcks their Alcoran the Iewes their Talmud the Papists their Catechismes councels customes and traditions to this touchstone and this this will shew them all to be starke counterfeits very drosse and filth not worthy to be once looked after much lesse to bee esteemed the pretious golden truth of God that soules should be saued by Lastly yet mistake not as to thinke that all matters of substance and saluation were expresly in the word that is by name and in so many words as we are to apprehend it but at least by consequence and to be deducted by sound and sanctified reason applying it to the circumstances of the Text and to the analogy of faith And so we haue finished those things that concerne matters of substance Wee come in the next place to matters of circumstance and these are of two sorts either miracles or discipline either miracles for indeed it is a part of the power of the Catholique visible Church as it containes altogether from the Apostles themselues downe to our times for with them it was an ordinary thing to doe miracles Matth. 10.1 Our Sauiour gaue them power against vncleane Spirits to cast them out c and Marke 16.17 and 1 Cor. 12.9.10 to another is giuen the the guifts of healing to another the operation of great workes by the same Spirit And it was very necessary at the first planting of the Gospell that they should haue this power for the confirming of their office and authority that planted it but now there is no vse of miracles their Doctrine and writings being sufficiently confirmed already and therefore that power is restrained and what Church soeuer challengeth this power may iustly be censured for Anti-christian spoken of in the 2 Thes 2.9 Secondly or Discipline and that is of two sorts either matter of Gouernement or matter of Ceremonies of the first wee haue spoken already of the second wee will speake a word by Ceremonies we vnderstand the time place and gesture to be obserued in Gods worship and seruice we will contriue the whole businesse into this obseruation Euery particular visible Church hath power from God to ordaine some outward Rites and Ceremonies for the outward carriage of Gods worship within that Church or Congregation Marke the parts of the Note Doct. First I say euery visible Church for the inuisible not being contained within the bounds of any one setled outward state can haue no such orders Secondly I say particular for besides that a generall visible Church cannot so be properly assigned to a place and if it were yet being of so large an extent as commonly it is it cannot be brought within the compasse of the same outward Rites Thirdly I say hath power from God to ordaine Ceretaine Rites Fourthly I say for the outward carriage of Church businesse for they haue nothing to doe with the Inward man Fifthly I say they must be within that particular Church for one Church is not to prescribe another what they should doe except their case be very like and that there be a willingnesse in the Receiuer So the Note is cleare we come to the proofes Acts 15.1 2. In the Church of Antioch there was a matter in question as touching Circumcision an outward Ceremony the Apostles being then at Ierusalem were by the consent of the Church of Antioch consulted withall about it and accordingly they deliuer their iudgement in the 23. verse c. And therein shew their power and consequently the power of the Church after them for the causes being perpetuall the course must be perpetuall too and they shew their power both in disanulling some Ceremonies as Circumcision vers 10. as abstaming from meat offered to Idolls and blood verse 20. which were certainely things in their owne nature indifferent as the Apostle shewes of meats 1 Corinth 8.8 And yet all this they did with the assistance of the holy Ghost verse 28. and that onely in things needfull as in the same verse and this they did not so much for the thing it selfe but for the auoyding of offence And so in the 1 Cor. 11.2 c. where the Apostle mentions the ordinances which hee had deliuered them already which are generally vnderstood of matters of order and decency and the circumstances make it plaine enough for after verse 3 c. he deliuers them other ordinances keepe which hee had not deliuered them before concerning the vncouering of the mans head and the couering of the womans head which were things indifferent in themselues yet for comlinesse sake hee doth there inioyne them and verse 20 c. hee deliuers certaine other ordinances concerning the outward carriage of Gods worship in the Lords Supper as their tarrying one for another eating before c. verse 33.34 And whereas many other things were out of frame with them he promiseth in the end of 34. verse to order the rest at his comming to them where it is cleare that the ordering of things concerning the outward carriage of Gods worship is in the power of the Church it selfe for still the Rule holds that the disease continuing alwaies requires a continuall reamedy from time to time So in the 1. Cor 14.26 40. The Apostle would haue all things done decently and in order hee giues them this generall rule for matters of Ceremony and they must draw particulars accordingly
What things are to be warranted Warrants for the cautions conditions and carriage of the businesse are First more principall Secondly infer●our warrant Second head and in it fiue Rules The second Rule That is vncomely in one place which is decent in another What is to be reputed decent Order extends it selfe to two things First to things to be done Secondly to persons The third Rule Three wayes how peace is indangered The fourth Rule Three wayes how this rule is broken The fifth Rule The third head and that is the end And there be two kinds of them Two graces necessary for this First wisedome Secondly love When this Rule is swerved from Instances in divers duties Proofes are here vsed because omitted before The sixth generall things concerning the Church viz. the priuiledges of it In this head two points handled 1 handled by way of obseruation Reasons 2 things handled viz. the priuiledges of Church and they be of two sorts 1 humane 2 di●r these ●uers sorts generally of two sorts 1. In respect of others both friends and enemies 2. In respect of themselues 1 temporall priuiledges 2. Spirituall priuiledges these● of two sorts 1 common to all the members 2. proper to the true Beleeuers and these of two sorts 1. matters of present possession of diuers kindes 4 The workes God doth for the faithfull 2. matters of future certainties 2. other speciall priuileges added and intreated on 1. concerning the infallibe guidance of the Church by Gods Spirit and so whether the Church can erre or no either in manners or in Doctrine or in both or in neyther Errors of foure sorts 1. what a fundamentall Errors is Errors in smaller matters what they be Difference btw●eene them that erre in the foundation and them that erre in smaller matters The second thing is concerning the necessity of being a member of the Church if euer wee will attaine saluation and so whether any may be saued out of the Church or no. Extra fidem Ecclesiae Morn 451. The seuenth generall head in the doctrin of the church viz. the aduersaries and opposites of it This handled in 5. point ● Th● 〈…〉 that the Church of God hath many Aduersaries to oppose it deliuered in a Doctrine Sti●ting vp to many duties The second point what these aduersaries are and they are many 2. sort 3. sort 4. sort 5. sort 6. sort 7. sort 8. sort 9. sort 10. sort 11. sort 12. sort Vse 3. The third point which is how these Aduersaries oppose vs. The matter they strike at 1 against the persons of professors 2 against their profession The manner of their opposition ● secretly 2. open● 3. The means or weapons wherby they fight against Gods Children 1 carnall reasons and therein 2. Religious pretences and herein 1. Scriptures 2. that they are the Church 3. miracles 3. more grosse dealing The 4. point how the Church is to carry her selfe to her aduersaries 2. things to be done that we may be able to make a good fight What is to be done in it and therein 2. things The 2 worke to be done 2 thing how it is to be done The 5 point how the Lord carrieth himselfe to his Church and their aduersaries How God is with the saith full in many respects How God is against the enemies his Church many waies Vse 2. The 8. generall head of the Church viz. the power and auhority of it And in it 3. things to be spoken vnto 1. that there is a power 2. point what manner of power it is and in it things asserted 1 that it is not humane but diuine How we may know when the Church speakes true or false Two things asserted that power of the Church is not temporal but spirituall The 3. thing asserted that the Power of the Church is limited and scantled within the bounds of the Word The 4. thing asserted that the power of the Church is the greatest power on earth Kings are vnder the power of the Church though they be aboue the persons that exercise it The 3 point is what it is that the Church haue power in it is double 1. ouer persons and that 1 either as members either not come in to admitte Who are to be admitted The Act and meanes of admission This not to be renued vpon any falling away How far the Magistrate may compell Or to repell them Or secondly as come in to keepe them in or cast them out Or thirdly ouer members as Officers to choose or refuse place or displace Secondly the Church hath power ouer things and these either matters of substance as touching the Scripture and therein first touching the credit of the Scripture And herein whether the authority of Church bee greater then the authority of the Spripture Bellarmy de Verbo Dei interpret 246. The blasphemous speeches of the Papists concerning the Scripture without the approbation of the church The Church of Rome is that whore of Babilon The best positions of the Papists in this controuersie Answered How the Church is to be beleeued and obeyed Answered Reasons against it Reply How we must esteeme of the Scriptures How we must esteeme of the Church 4. Wayes how we may know the scripture to be the Scripture 6 Rules concerning our beleeuing what the Church saith of the authority of the Scripture The second thing the Church hath power in about the Scripture is th● sense of it and how farre it hath power therein Hieron in Epist ad Gelat cap. 1. Reprouing first the opinion of the Papists The Scriptures speake and haue a voyce How the Church is the mouth of the Scripture The Scripture not dumbe Secondly their practice first in regard of the vulgar latine translation imposed by them as the authenticall Text. Secondly in that all their Expositors are slaues and vassalls to their Church Thirdly in regard of the oath which generally all Papists rec●ue concerning the exposition of the Scripture The Fathers doe all generally concur and yet misse in the right expounding of the Scriptures Fourthly in that they rely vpon the iudgements of Councells and the Pope● in case the Church dissent First other mens and the Churches expositions are to be examined by vs. Ob. Answer 1. Rectract lib. cap. 18. Secondly in framing expositions of our owne we must come not as masters to teach but as schollers to learne to the Scriptures Directions to walke and be ruled by when wee seeke the sense of the Scripture they are of three sortes 1 some before wee come to expound the Scripture they are 7. Things to be obserued in the businesse it selfe How we may consulie with Gods Spirit What is the analogie of faith Things to be doue after Diuers obiections against this doctrine Ob. 2. Ob 5. Of the authority of the Church in matters besides the Scriptures and what is to be held therein The places that proue this are of foure sorts First such as ascribe th●s authority to God alone Secondly such as commend
vnto vs the sufficiency Scrip● Thirdly such as forbid any addition to or detraction from the Scripture Fourthly such as condemne all Doctrine taught either without or besides the Scripture Rhemists 15 Acts ● The Papists say the church may coyne new articles of faith What authority the Church hath about articles of Faith Hyper 6● Hyper 54. Secondly that the Church make any booke to bee Canonicall Scripture Which the Papists hould this confuted by diuers reasons Thirdly that the Church hath power to deuise adde diminish or alter any part of Gods worship which the Church of Rome hath done prooued by diuerse things Fourthly concerning customes The fathers iudgement concerning customes Fifthly concerning traditions How and in what sense tradition is to bee receiued Answers to the Popish tenent concerning tradititions Answer 1. Ob. Answer wherin is shewed that the Baptisme of Infants the change of the Sabbath and that so many bookes are Canonicall Scripture and are not had by tradition but proued by good consequence out of the Scripture Answ 2. Answ 3. Their proofe out of 2 Thes 2.15 Answe Answ 4. The scripture the so onely rule of saith acknowledged to bee by all Churches generally Secondly the Scripture is the onely tryall of euery truth How euery matter of substance is to be found in the Scripture Concerning Churches power in matters of circumstance and they are of two sortes one of miracles and what is to be helde concerning the same Secondly of discipline and this is of two sorts either matter of d●scipline which is spoken of before or secondly matter of ceremonies and what the church hath power to doe therein The bounds the Church is to keepe in ordaining matters of ceremony 1. 2. Vse 2. 1. The ninth generall point concerning the Church viz. the application of all that hath bin spoken to all visible Churches in christendome that I know of The generall diuision of all churches that haue beene or are since our Sauiours time into Easterne and Westērne and this according to their sc●tuation Secondly according to their language and so some be greek and some latin Churches VVhether Schismaticall or hereticall Churches may be accounted true visible Churches What a Schismatike church is Hereticall Churches First what they are and when any particular man is to be reputed an Heretike Heresies of 2. sorts first such as ouerthrow the foundation What this fundation is Resol Those that deny directly this foundation or any part thereof cease to bee Christians and are no more visible Churcher The Greeke Churches be here spoken of and what weare to thinke of them 1. of the Greeke Churches generally disperse in most at the Easterne parts of the world Ortelius 100. Ortelius 97. 98. 108. Secondly the Greeke Churches which are more particularly and properly so called and what we are to hold of them deliuered in an obseruation Doct. The mayne error of the Greeke Churches The Greeke Churches better then the Popish-Church The Papists vnchatarible censuring the Greeke Churches answered The Greeke Churches not gu●lty of Schisme from Rome The Greeke Churches neuer subiect to the Romane Church One note of the Church as the Papists account it is found in the Greeke Church viz succession of Bishops The goodnes of God in perseruing of his Churches seene in the Greeke Churches vnder the Turke The miseries of the Greeke Church vnder the Turke in many particulars in regard of their persecutions in regard of the Religion of the Turks The Religion of the Turks 1. a pestilent Religion directly opposite to Christ 2. It ouerspreadeth a great part of the knowne world 3. It is a pleasing Religion For what it was that the Lord suffered such famous Churches to come to ruine applied to vs. The Western churches and first of those that acknowledge the Pope their head as the Church of Rome and those that hold with her and what ma● be said and held of her deliuered in two obseruations The church of Rome as now it standeth may in some sense be reputed a true visible Church A differen●e betweene the papacy or the pop●sh ●action and some better spirits amongst them in regard of whom the whole may be called a true Church The popish church doth not directly deny any part of the fundation but in outward shew of words affirme it The church of Rome hath beene a true Church The Papists by their Doctrine of iustification by workes must ouerthrow the foundation they by this ouer throw Christ not directly but by consequence Quest Answ It is not so great a sin to deny Christ directly as by consequence yet hee that doth this deserueth to be cut off from Gods mercy The Church of Rome compared with the Church of Israel 2. with the Church of the Iewes in our Sauiours times With the Church of Galatia Circumcision doth as neerely by consequence cut off from Christ as iustification by workes with the of Church Sardis Baptisme a true Sacrament in Rome and rightly administred there for the substance of it Those that were Baptised in the Church of Rome were lawfully Baptised Ob 1. Answ Ob. 2. Answ The ordinati of our Ministers from the Church of Rome and yet a lawfull ordination The question where the Church was before Luthers time answered The inconuenience preuented by acknowledging that the Church of Rome may be accounted a true Church What to thinke of our fathers that liued in the Popish Church They of the Popish Chu●ch are to ●e ●ud●ed rather mis-beleeuers then vnbeleeuers The 2. Obseruation wherein is further delired what may be sayd and held further of the church of Rome The Church of Rome so corrupt that it is not lawfull to ioyne with her This that is spoken against thee is in respect of the Pope and Popish factors Corruption of the Church of Rome reduced to 2. sorts 1. matter of Doctrine reduced to 1. part of the Doctrine Foure heads 1 concerning Scriptures And their error therein Three things 1 denying the sufficiency of the Scripture 2 Per●erting the truth of the Scripture 3 Disanulling the author●ty and credit of the Scripture many wayes 1 teaching the apochrypha●l bookes to be canonicall Scripture Secondly equalling traditions of men with the written word of God Thirdly preferring the authority of the Church aboue the Scripture Two heads wherein they orre in matter of Doctrine viz concerning the direct offices of the Mediator The Papists say there bee many mediators betwixt God and man The distinction of mediators of intercession and redemption answered Two things in a Mediator To be mediator of intercession is peculiar to Christ as well as to be mediator of redemption The popish sh●ft off praying to the Saints not as helpers but as intercessor Answered The popish reason for praying to the Saints departed drawn from our desi●ing the Saints on earth to pray for vs Answered The third head wherein the church of Rome erreth in doctrine and that is concerning Images The church of Rome an abominable whore deseruing