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the_o appoint_v of_o bishop_n again_o in_o his_o book_n against_o the_o false_o name_v order_n of_o bishop_n he_o say_v 322._o say_v pag._n 322._o at_o citra_fw-la iocum_fw-la vides_fw-la palam_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o without_o jest_n thou_o see_v open_o that_o the_o apostle_n paul_n call_v only_o they_o bishop_n which_o do_v preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o minister_n sacrament_n to_o the_o people_n as_o in_o our_o time_n the_o parish_n minister_n and_o preacher_n do_v therefore_o i_o believe_v without_o doubt_n that_o they_o by_o fight_n possess_v the_o title_n and_o name_n of_o bishop_n and_o in_o another_o treatise_n b._n treatise_n de_fw-fr ministâ—_n eccles_n instituendâ—_n pag._n 365._o b._n donabo_fw-la hoc_fw-la ordmibus_fw-la papisticis_fw-la quod_fw-la solius_fw-la episcopi_fw-la autoritate_fw-la instituuntur_fw-la quos_fw-la vocant_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la consensu_fw-la aut_fw-la suffragio_fw-la populi_fw-la cvi_fw-la preficiendi_fw-la sunt_fw-la neque_fw-la requisito_fw-la 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haec_fw-la potestas_fw-la penes_fw-la omnem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la est_fw-la authoritas_fw-la modo_fw-la ministerij_fw-la penes_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la &_o episcopos_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la roma_fw-la olim_fw-la potestas_fw-la popul_n fuit_fw-la authoritas_fw-la senatus_n this_o power_n &_o sway_v of_o the_o government_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o the_o authority_n only_o of_o ministration_n thereof_o be_v in_o the_o presbyter_n and_o bishop_n so_o as_o in_o old_a time_n at_o rome_n the_o power_n be_v in_o the_o people_n but_o the_o authority_n or_o direction_n be_v in_o the_o senat._n in_o a_o other_o place_n he_o say_v â—_o say_v de_fw-fr regno_fw-la chrâ—â—â—_n 1._o â—_o the_o apostle_n accuse_v the_o corinthians_n for_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n do_v not_o cast_v out_o of_o their_o company_n the_o incestuous_a person_n p._n martyr_n say_v martyr_n 7._o p_o martyr_n 16.15_o martyr_n in_o â—_o cor._n 16.15_o fatemur_fw-la clave_n ecclesia_fw-la universae_fw-la 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that_o it_o come_v from_o divine_a authority_n christ_n so_o before_o he_o call_v it_o god_n judgement_n and_o his_o christ_n what_o can_v be_v more_o full_a and_o absolute_a to_o our_o purpose_n than_o this_o the_o same_o also_o he_o hold_v touch_v the_o people_n power_n in_o church_n censure_n as_o where_o he_o will_v stephan_n bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o write_v 3.14_o write_v epist_n 3.14_o ad_fw-la plebem_fw-la arelate_n consistentem_fw-la to_o the_o people_n at_o arles_n in_o france_n his_o intent_n be_v here_o that_o their_o novatian_n bishop_n martianus_n shall_v be_v remove_v and_o another_o set_v in_o his_o place_n by_o they_o together_o with_o stephan_n help_v and_o elsewhere_o touch_v one_o victor_n a_o presbyter_n fall_v from_o the_o church_n &_o return_v again_o cyprian_a great_o mislike_v &_o rebuke_v therapius_n the_o bishop_n for_o receive_v he_o 3.8_o he_o 3.8_o sine_fw-la petitu_fw-la &_o conscientia_fw-la plebis_fw-la without_o the_o desire_n &_o knowledge_n of_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o church_n about_o in_o the_o country_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d about_o alexandria_n not_o in_o alexandria_n last_o of_o all_o eusebius_n utter_v this_o as_o he_o do_v the_o next_o forego_n clause_n likewise_o with_o this_o term_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o say_v or_o some_o report_n by_o which_o and_o the_o like_a term_n he_o use_v to_o relate_v uncertain_a and_o apocryphal_a thing_n yea_o sometime_o fabulous_a and_o untrue_a for_o eusebius_n be_v not_o precise_a in_o set_v down_o all_o his_o matter_n chief_o those_o which_o he_o have_v only_o upon_o rumour_n and_o report_n and_o where_o he_o seem_v to_o require_v credit_n in_o deed_n he_o be_v not_o spare_v to_o name_v his_o author_n as_o egesippus_fw-la clemens_n dionysius_n and_o such_o other_o wherefore_o divers_a way_n d._n downame_n presumptuous_a assertion_n and_o which_o he_o do_v so_o boast_v of_o that_o mark_v institute_v many_o church_n in_o alexandria_n want_v
have_v to_o that_o purâ—ise_n handle_v in_o my_o 3._o and_o 9_o argument_n of_o the_o divine_a beginning_n and_o institution_n of_o christ_n visible_a and_o ministerial_a church_n do_v well_o show_v and_o testify_v to_o we_o so_o much_o chap._n vi_o our_o very_a adversary_n do_v acknowledge_v with_o we_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o doctrine_n sometime_o in_o plain_a term_n 6._o chap._n 6._o and_o sometime_o to_o the_o same_o full_a effect_n special_o when_o they_o deal_v against_o the_o papist_n the_o force_n and_o evidence_n of_o this_o truth_n viz._n touch_v the_o people_n right_a for_o their_o free_a consent_n in_o church_n government_n be_v such_o that_o also_o our_o very_a adversary_n sometime_o in_o plain_a term_n sometime_o to_o the_o same_o full_a effect_n do_v acknowledge_v it_o among_o many_o i_o will_v content_v myself_o with_o two_o for_o the_o present_a viz._n d._n bilson_n and_o d._n downame_n the_o first_o of_o these_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o apology_n of_o the_o seminary_n pristes_fw-fr and_o jesuit_n write_v thus_o 353.356_o thus_o d._n bila_n against_o the_o seminar_n part_n 2_o 353.356_o we_o have_v the_o word_n and_o warrant_v of_o the_o h._n ghost_n for_o that_o which_o we_o say_v etc._n etc._n viz._n that_o the_o people_n can_v and_o aught_o to_o disceme_v and_o try_v the_o doctrine_n and_o spirit_n of_o the_o teacher_n &c_n &c_n so_o to_o choose_v and_o refuse_v they_o as_o they_o by_o the_o word_n shall_v see_v good_a thus_o say_v he_o and_o what_o can_v be_v speak_v by_o any_o of_o our_o self_n more_o plain_o and_o more_o full_o to_o our_o purpose_n if_o the_o people_n can_v and_o aught_o to_o choose_v their_o teacher_n and_o to_o refuse_v who_o they_o find_v worthy_a to_o be_v refuse_v then_o why_o be_v they_o not_o allow_v so_o to_o do_v in_o england_n if_o the_o word_n and_o warrant_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v for_o it_o than_o who_o may_v impeach_v it_o who_o may_v resist_v it_o what_o be_v they_o that_o revile_v and_o 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or_o archbishop_n etc._n etc._n veluti_fw-la in_o mediâ_fw-la angliâ_n as_o it_o be_v use_v in_o england_n id_fw-la quod_fw-la dolendum_fw-la est_fw-la which_o i_o speak_v with_o grief_n moreover_o concern_v excommunication_n he_o say_v 1._o say_v in_o vers_fw-la 1._o hac_fw-la iurisdictio_fw-la est_fw-la totuâ—_fw-la quidem_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ratione_fw-la potestatis_fw-la prepositotum_fw-la autem_fw-la ratione_fw-la exercitij_fw-la &_o adminisirationis_fw-la this_o jurisdiction_n be_v the_o whole_a church_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o power_n thereof_o but_o it_o belonge_v to_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n in_o respect_n â—f_a administer_a it_o namely_o populo_fw-la assentiente_fw-la with_o the_o people_n consent_n as_o he_o add_v a_o â—ittle_a after_o and_o again_o executioni_fw-la puâ—lica_fw-la censura_fw-la intervenire_fw-la debet_fw-la notitia_fw-la &_o conâ—ensus_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n ought_v to_o be_v in_o the_o execution_n of_o the_o public_a censure_n tilenus_n 13._o tilenus_n neither_o shall_v tilenus_n testimony_n be_v unremembered_a who_o answer_v the_o coâ—nt_n laul_n that_o require_v he_o to_o show_v what_o call_v calvin_n have_v say_v 3_o say_v respon_n ad_fw-la come_v lavallium_n quest_n 3_o the_o people_n of_o geneva_n profess_v the_o gospel_n do_v first_o call_v farel_n to_o be_v their_o pastor_n &_o then_o he_o &_o they_o call_v calvin_n to_o be_v likewise_o apply_v cyprian_n sentence_n thereunto_o who_o avouch_v 14._o avouch_v epist_n
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seu_fw-la plebe_fw-la constitutum_fw-la equis_fw-la &_o communihus_fw-la suffragijs_fw-la haec_fw-la iusta_fw-la electionis_fw-la ratio_fw-la it_o be_v manifest_a that_o that_o way_n of_o choose_v and_o call_v minister_n be_v most_o simple_a and_o most_o approve_a by_o the_o testimony_n of_o holy_a scripture_n which_o the_o apostle_n in_o old_a time_n do_v keep_v in_o the_o church_n and_o the_o ancient_a church_n sometime_o imitate_v they_o do_v observe_v the_o whole_a church_n do_v choose_v that_o be_v the_o body_n consist_v of_o the_o eldership_n and_o people_n or_o common_a sort_n by_o equal_a &_o common_a voice_n this_o be_v the_o just_a manner_n of_o choose_v minister_n afterward_o he_o say_v this_o the_o old_a church_n do_v observe_v very_o long_o doneo_fw-la res_fw-la coeperunt_fw-la ut_fw-la fit_n humanitus_fw-la in_fw-la peius_fw-la ruere_fw-la atque_fw-la retrò_fw-la sublapsa_fw-la referri_fw-la until_o as_o through_o man_n corruption_n it_o come_v to_o passs_v thing_n begin_v to_o grow_v worse_o and_o to_o run_v to_o ruin_v and_o after_o that_o corruption_n in_o the_o church_n government_n be_v come_v in_o yet_o say_v he_o id_fw-la semper_fw-la obtinuit_fw-la ut_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la actioni_fw-la toti_fw-la interesset_fw-la camque_fw-la prasentiâ_fw-la suâ_fw-la haberet_fw-la raetam_fw-la that_o always_o be_v in_o force_n that_o the_o church_n be_v present_a at_o the_o whole_a action_n and_o ratify_v it_o with_o their_o presence_n but_o neither_o this_o in_o england_n be_v see_v any_o where_o neither_o will_v be_v allow_v also_o junius_n say_v where_o the_o church_n at_o any_o time_n do_v no_o more_o but_o ratify_v matter_n by_o their_o presence_n only_o the_o guidâ—t_n ought_v to_o certify_v the_o church_n that_o if_o they_o can_v themselves_o take_v care_n for_o &_o do_v their_o own_o affair_n non_fw-la fore_fw-la penâ—â—â—â—lâ—um_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la seniorumve_fw-la coetum_fw-la ut_fw-la 〈◊〉_d siâ—i_fw-la cum_fw-la damno_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la iniuriae_fw-la &_o ignominâ_fw-la arroget_fw-la it_o shall_v not_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o any_o assembly_n of_o bishop_n or_o elder_n to_o arrogat_fw-la so_o much_o to_o themselves_o with_o the_o church_n damage_n injury_n and_o shame_n where_o he_o profess_v that_o this_o be_v the_o church_n â—s_v damage_n injury_n &_o shame_n if_o be_v understanding_n christian_n they_o be_v only_o present_a at_o the_o choose_v and_o ordain_v of_o their_o minister_n if_o they_o do_v not_o also_o themselves_o choose_v or_o at_o least_o free_o &_o express_o consent_v to_o the_o choose_v and_o ordain_v of_o they_o after_o note_v the_o tyranny_n which_o be_v in_o this_o behalf_n under_o the_o pope_n he_o say_v jam_fw-la de_fw-la populo_fw-la quem_fw-la christus_fw-la redemit_fw-la svo_fw-la sanguine_fw-la &_o ecclesiam_fw-la sibi_fw-la ex_fw-la eo_fw-la compararet_fw-la verbum_fw-la nullum_fw-la now_o of_o the_o people_n there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n who_o christ_n redeem_v with_o his_o blood_n that_o they_o may_v be_v his_o church_n and_o he_o add_v hinc_fw-la illa_fw-la barbary_n hinc_fw-la colluvy_n selelerum_fw-la omnium_fw-la hinc_fw-la illa_fw-la fraudum_fw-la &_o nundinationun_fw-la sentina_fw-la exundavit_fw-la hence_o come_v that_o barbarous_a ignorance_n in_o those_o time_n that_o heap_n of_o all_o sin_n that_o sink_v of_o deceit_n and_o sell_v of_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n then_o speak_v of_o some_o church_n &_o magistrate_n who_o have_v worthy_o free_v themselves_o from_o the_o pope_n yet_o he_o leave_v this_o foul_a blot_n upon_o they_o ius_n illud_fw-la eccesiasticum_n institutionis_fw-la &_o ordimationis_fw-la restitut_o non_fw-la curant_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la they_o care_v not_o to_o restore_v to_o the_o church_n this_o right_a of_o they_o viz_o of_o make_v &_o ordain_v of_o minister_n final_o he_o answece_v some_o objection_n at_o nescit_fw-la populus_fw-la dixerit_fw-la quispiam_fw-la doceatur_fw-la &_o sciet_fw-la at_o nescit_fw-la uti_fw-la imo_fw-la nesciet_fw-la unquam_fw-la siture_fw-fr svo_fw-la non_fw-la utatur_fw-la unquam_fw-la at_o factiosus_fw-la est_fw-la plerumque_fw-la &_o in_o diversas_fw-la part_n studiaque_fw-la scinditur_fw-la revocetur_fw-la adpacen_n monitis_fw-la salutaribus_fw-la &_o compescatur_fw-la authoritate_fw-la verbt_n virorumque_fw-la bonorum_fw-la officijs_fw-la ut_fw-la conciliatis_fw-la &_o compositis_fw-la animus_fw-la faciant_fw-la quod_fw-la svi_fw-la turis_fw-la est_fw-la but_o some_o will_v say_v the_o people_n be_v ignorant_a of_o their_o duty_n and_o right_a herein_o let_v they_o be_v teach_v and_o they_o will_v understand_v it_o but_o they_o know_v not_o how_o to_o use_v this_o their_o right_n they_o will_v not_o know_v it_o ever_o if_o they_o use_v it_o never_o but_o they_o be_v factious_a often_o and_o be_v divide_v into_o part_n let_v they_o be_v reduce_v to_o peace_n by_o wholesome_a counsel_n and_o let_v they_o be_v rule_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o endeavour_n of_o good_a man_n that_o their_o mind_n be_v order_v they_o may_v do_v that_o which_o be_v their_o right_n to_o do_v piscator_fw-la 15._o piscator_fw-la about_o excommunication_n piscator_fw-la say_v cor._n say_v observe_v ex_fw-la â—_o cap._n 1._o cor._n excommunication_n ought_v to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o church_n or_o by_o the_o presbytery_n judge_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n where_o all_o man_n may_v see_v his_o meaning_n to_o be_v this_o viz._n that_o the_o presbytery_n may_v excommunicate_a howbeit_o always_o with_o the_o church_n free_a consent_n for_o so_o he_o signify_v by_o these_o word_n judge_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n it_o can_v not_o be_v that_o he_o shall_v mean_v that_o they_o may_v excommunicate_v by_o their_o own_o power_n and_o right_v only_o or_o whether_o the_o church_n will_v or_o no._n after_o the_o same_o manner_n also_o i_o doubt_v not_o some_o other_o do_v speak_v concern_v the_o make_v king_n of_o minister_n who_o sense_n and_o meaning_n be_v to_o be_v take_v altogether_o to_o that_o purpose_n likewise_o in_o the_o church_n â—amâ—_n that_o be_v execute_v the_o church_n authority_n and_o power_n and_o do_v that_o which_o they_o do_v with_o their_o free_a conâ—ent_n and_o approbation_n chemniciâ—â—_n 16._o chemniciâ—â—_n chemnicius_n a_o man_n most_o famous_a &_o of_o â—are_a learning_n among_o the_o follower_n of_o luther_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n yet_o in_o our_o cause_n he_o say_v thus_o 228._o thus_o exam._n part_n pag._n 226._o 227._o 228._o non_fw-la sine_fw-la consensu_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la paulus_n &_o barâ—abas_n invitis_fw-la obtruserunt_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la paul_n and_o barnabas_n do_v not_o thrust_v minister_n on_o the_o church_n be_v unwilling_a or_o without_o their_o consent_n and_o exempla_fw-la aposiolica_n bistoria_fw-la â—â—are_n oftendunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n story_n do_v clear_o show_v that_o election_n or_o vocation_n do_v 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ambrose_n etc._n etc._n d._n rainolds_n answer_v hart_n the_o priest_n 267._o confer_v pag._n 267._o i_o perceive_v the_o pope_n must_v fetch_v his_o supremacy_n from_o earth_n and_o not_o from_o heaven_n you_o be_v fall_v from_o scripture_n to_o eusebius_n even_o so_o our_o adversary_n when_o all_o be_v do_v they_o must_v fetch_v the_o diocesan_n l._n bishop_n office_n from_o earth_n and_o not_o from_o heaven_n they_o fall_v from_o scripture_n to_o eusebius_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o not_o eusebius_n not_o the_o rest_n do_v construe_v those_o precept_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n as_o belong_v only_o to_o bishop_n much_o â—â—5_n much_o see_v before_o pag._n â—24_n â—â—5_n less_o do_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n without_o exception_n this_o be_v a_o strange_a hyperbole_n but_o these_o writer_n acknowledge_v timothy_n and_o titus_n to_o have_v ben_fw-mi bishop_n nay_o not_o diocesan_n l._n bishop_n they_o neither_o acknowledge_v nor_o know_v 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