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pag._n 369._o b._n chemnic_n examp_n part_n 2.27_o a._n clave_n sunt_fw-la totius_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la the_o key_n belong_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o private_a mass_n he_o speak_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o his_o time_n thus_o spiritus_fw-la sanctus_n vui_fw-la civitats_n plures_fw-la constituit_fw-la episcopos_fw-la vos_fw-fr singuli_fw-la estis_fw-la pluribus_fw-la quâ_fw-la authoritate_fw-la nun_n ipsius_fw-la satanae_n &_o c_o the_o holy_a ghost_n appoint_v to_o one_o city_n many_o bishop_n but_o you_o be_v one_o bishop_n to_o many_o city_n by_o what_o authority_n be_v it_o not_o of_o satan_n himself_o by_o you_o oppose_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n we_o conclude_v therefore_o bold_o that_o you_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n &_o the_o h_n ghost_n decree_n be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o to_o be_v call_v bishop_n but_o rather_o adversary_n and_o destroyer_n both_o of_o bishop_n and_o of_o the_o divine_a decree_n concern_v the_o appoint_v of_o bishop_n again_o in_o his_o book_n against_o the_o false_o name_v order_n of_o bishop_n he_o say_v 322._o say_v pag._n 322._o at_o citra_fw-la iocum_fw-la vides_fw-la palam_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o without_o jest_n thou_o see_v open_o that_o the_o apostle_n paul_n call_v only_o they_o bishop_n which_o do_v preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o minister_n sacrament_n to_o the_o people_n as_o in_o our_o time_n the_o parish_n minister_n and_o preacher_n do_v therefore_o i_o believe_v without_o doubt_n that_o they_o by_o fight_n possess_v the_o title_n and_o name_n of_o bishop_n and_o in_o another_o treatise_n b._n treatise_n de_fw-fr ministâ—_n eccles_n instituendâ—_n pag._n 365._o b._n donabo_fw-la hoc_fw-la ordmibus_fw-la papisticis_fw-la quod_fw-la solius_fw-la episcopi_fw-la autoritate_fw-la instituuntur_fw-la quos_fw-la vocant_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la consensu_fw-la aut_fw-la suffragio_fw-la populi_fw-la cvi_fw-la preficiendi_fw-la sunt_fw-la neque_fw-la requisito_fw-la 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haec_fw-la potestas_fw-la penes_fw-la omnem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la est_fw-la authoritas_fw-la modo_fw-la ministerij_fw-la penes_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la &_o episcopos_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la roma_fw-la olim_fw-la potestas_fw-la popul_n fuit_fw-la authoritas_fw-la senatus_n this_o power_n &_o sway_v of_o the_o government_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o the_o authority_n only_o of_o ministration_n thereof_o be_v in_o the_o presbyter_n and_o bishop_n so_o as_o in_o old_a time_n at_o rome_n the_o power_n be_v in_o the_o people_n but_o the_o authority_n or_o direction_n be_v in_o the_o senat._n in_o a_o other_o place_n he_o say_v â—_o say_v de_fw-fr regno_fw-la chrâ—â—â—_n 1._o â—_o the_o apostle_n accuse_v the_o corinthians_n for_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n do_v not_o cast_v out_o of_o their_o company_n the_o incestuous_a person_n p._n martyr_n say_v martyr_n 7._o p_o martyr_n 16.15_o martyr_n in_o â—_o cor._n 16.15_o fatemur_fw-la clave_n ecclesia_fw-la universae_fw-la 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popular_a government_n or_o democracie_n for_o so_o p._n martyr_n here_o mean_v by_o politia_n as_o we_o may_v see_v if_o we_o look_v in_o the_o place_n also_o namely_o of_o excommunication_n he_o say_v consentiente_fw-la universa_fw-la eccsesia_n excommunicetur_fw-la hoc_fw-la debet_fw-la ist_fw-mi ad_fw-la iudicium_fw-la antecedere_fw-la let_v excommunication_n be_v with_o the_o consent_n of_o
people_n of_o every_o church_n always_o aught_o to_o have_v by_o christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n ordinance_n as_o 3.4.5_o as_o pag._n 19_o &_o chap._n 3.4.5_o before_o we_o have_v see_v nay_o to_o come_v near_o no_o proper_a and_o perfect_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a ever_o do_v or_o do_v admit_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n universal_o and_o always_o it_o be_v so_o &_o indeed_o it_o can_v not_o be_v otherwise_o for_o where_o each_o ordinary_a congregation_n have_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n there_o certain_o each_o congregation_n be_v a_o entire_a and_o independent_a body_n politic_a spiritual_a and_o be_v endue_v with_o power_n in_o itself_o immediate_o under_o christ_n and_o so_o every_o of_o they_o be_v true_a &_o proper_a church_n so_o that_o these_o congregation_n admit_v not_o where_o they_o be_v any_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a neither_o do_v the_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a admit_v entire_a and_o independent_a ordinary_a congregation_n which_o as_o i_o say_v have_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n they_o be_v indeed_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d such_o as_o 23.25_o as_o reas._o for_o 〈◊〉_d form_n pag._n 23.25_o can_v stand_v together_o possible_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v likewise_o that_o which_o heretofore_o 8â—_n heretofore_o ibid_fw-la pag._n 8â—_n i_o have_v affirm_v and_o so_o do_v still_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n there_o be_v not_o any_o diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a to_o be_v find_v which_o point_n though_o i_o have_v in_o my_o declaration_n prove_v it_o by_o this_o and_o 6._o other_o reason_n yet_o i_o will_v here_o draw_v it_o into_o this_o syllogism_n again_o no_o church_n hold_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n with_o just_a and_o decent_a order_n be_v diocesan_n or_o large_a every_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n hold_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n with_o just_a and_o decent_a order_n therefore_o no_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v diocesan_n or_o large_a the_o first_o proposition_n be_v manifest_a of_o itself_o and_o i_o have_v show_v it_o more_o etc._n more_o pag._n 84_o 8â—_n 86._o etc._n etc._n full_o before_o the_o assumption_n or_o 2._o proposition_n be_v at_o large_a prove_v &_o confirm_v in_o those_o place_n which_o be_v note_v in_o the_o margin_n before_o viz._n pag._n 19_o and_o be_v mention_v again_o particular_o pag._n 76._o to_o which_o purpose_n also_o the_o whole_a 3.4_o &_o 5._o chap._n do_v help_n where_o i_o be_o to_o add_v moreover_o that_o this_o conclusion_n be_v true_a not_o only_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o also_o in_o the_o age_n follow_v a_o long_a while_n after_o that_o be_v no_o such_o diocesan_n church_n be_v find_v till_o 420._o year_n after_o christ_n yea_o till_o 680._o and_o more_o be_v pass_v which_o i_o show_v before_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o five_o chap._n as_o also_o i_o touch_v it_o in_o my_o declaration_n pag._n 24.25_o but_o let_v it_o be_v remember_v that_o here_o i_o speak_v precise_o of_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a there_o be_v therefore_o necessary_o a_o distinction_n to_o be_v make_v of_o diocesan_n church_n there_o be_v proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a &_o there_o be_v improper_a the_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a be_v where_o the_o people_n have_v no_o power_n free_o to_o consent_v in_o the_o affair_n of_o their_o ordinary_a church_n government_n the_o improper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a be_v where_o although_o there_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o diocesan_n or_o large_a consociation_n of_o many_o ordinary_a congregation_n in_o spiritual_a government_n under_o one_o general_a presidencie_n or_o superiority_n yet_o the_o ordinary_a congregation_n have_v their_o free_a consent_n at_o least_o they_o have_v nothing_o by_o their_o spiritual_a 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2.124_o first_o d._n down_n def._n 2.124_o constitute_v church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o alexandria_n itself_o as_o he_o false_o translate_v it_o i_o say_v this_o he_o false_o translate_v as_o 3.25.16_o as_o 3.137_o &_o 3.25.16_o doct._n douâ—_n also_o do_v before_o he_o whereupon_o the_o whole_a ground_n of_o their_o error_n do_v rest_n â—â—_o def_n pag._n 17_o â—â—_o which_o their_o falsification_n i_o shall_v by_o god_n help_n show_v plain_o out_o of_o eusebius_n himself_o even_o in_o this_o very_a place_n the_o preposition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o here_o signify_v in_o a_o place_n as_o they_o untrue_o imagine_v but_o it_o signifi_v to_o a_o place_n and_o so_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v translate_v in_o latin_a we_o shall_v say_v ad_fw-la alexandriaâ—_n ipsam_fw-la or_o usque_fw-la ad_fw-la that_o be_v to_o alexandria_n or_o unto_o alexandria_n itself_o this_o be_v eusebius_n true_a meaning_n for_o he_o will_v show_v that_o mark_n be_v the_o first_o that_o constitute_v church_n in_o the_o country_n of_o egypt_n and_o withal_o that_o he_o do_v so_o even_o unto_o the_o chief_a city_n thereof_o viz._n alexandria_n and_o this_o be_v all_o that_o he_o mean_v here_o twice_o in_o this_o very_a place_n beside_o eusebius_n use_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o this_o same_o construction_n and_o sense_n both_o immediate_o before_o the_o word_n in_o question_n and_o immediate_o after_o before_o thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o egypt_n or_o unto_o egypt_n after_o thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o rome_n or_o unto_o rome_n not_o in_o rome_n nor_o in_o egypt_n wherefore_o so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signifi_v likewise_o in_o this_o place_n which_o we_o have_v in_o hand_n see_v it_o run_v in_o one_o context_v together_o with_o the_o former_a and_o be_v all_o one_o manner_n of_o phrase_n beside_o eusebius_n straight_o after_o allege_v philo_n concern_v this_o same_o people_n who_o mark_v convert_v say_v that_o he_o speak_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o church_n about_o in_o the_o country_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d about_o alexandria_n not_o in_o alexandria_n last_o of_o all_o eusebius_n utter_v this_o as_o he_o do_v the_o next_o forego_n clause_n likewise_o with_o this_o term_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o say_v or_o some_o report_n by_o which_o and_o the_o like_a term_n he_o use_v to_o relate_v uncertain_a and_o apocryphal_a thing_n yea_o sometime_o fabulous_a and_o untrue_a for_o eusebius_n be_v not_o precise_a in_o set_v down_o all_o his_o matter_n chief_o those_o which_o he_o have_v only_o upon_o rumour_n and_o report_n and_o where_o he_o seem_v to_o require_v credit_n in_o deed_n he_o be_v not_o spare_v to_o name_v his_o author_n as_o egesippus_fw-la clemens_n dionysius_n and_o such_o other_o wherefore_o divers_a way_n d._n downame_n presumptuous_a assertion_n and_o which_o he_o do_v so_o boast_v of_o that_o mark_v institute_v many_o church_n in_o alexandria_n want_v
he_o mean_v that_o it_o may_v be_v so_o call_v but_o not_o true_o which_o be_v but_o double_a deal_n for_o present_o after_o he_o say_v 17._o say_v pag._n 17._o he_o separate_v the_o true_a kingdom_n of_o christ_n from_o the_o external_a order_n and_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n which_o some_o in_o these_o day_n more_o zealous_a than_o wise_a do_v not_o separate_v so_o he_o call_v the_o faithful_a worshipper_n of_o christ_n but_o be_v it_o such_o wisdom_n i_o pray_v to_o separate_v from_o christ_n this_o his_o divine_a honour_n and_o glory_n and_o to_o give_v it_o to_o other_o nay_o this_o be_v accurse_a wisdom_n then_o a_o ministry_n suppose_v to_o be_v settle_v by_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n he_o deny_v to_o be_v any_o part_n of_o christ_n kingdom_n have_v he_o any_o reason_n for_o it_o yea_o a_o strange_a one_o say_v he_o christ_n kingdom_n be_v proper_a to_o his_o person_n as_o though_o the_o power_n and_o authority_n to_o institute_v &_o settle_v such_o 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special_o appoint_v from_o this_o dissolute_a opinion_n aforesaid_a and_o so_o derogatory_n to_o the_o holy_a office_n of_o christ_n it_o flow_v that_o this_o d._n teach_v 348._o teach_v pag._n 339._o 348._o the_o people_n interest_n in_o church-governement_n stand_v only_o upon_o the_o ground_n of_o reason_n and_o nature_n and_o be_v derive_v from_o the_o rule_n of_o christian_a equity_n and_o society_n and_o that_o this_o be_v both_o lawful_a and_o 334._o and_o pag._n 334._o much_o to_o be_v commend_v and_o yet_o also_o that_o 349._o that_o pag._n 349._o the_o people_n may_v willing_o forsake_v and_o worthy_o loose_v the_o right_n which_o they_o have_v nay_o more_o he_o hold_v the_o apostolic_a and_o 300._o and_o pag._n 299._o 300._o divine_a form_n of_o church-governement_n by_o sole_a govern_v bishop_n as_o he_o maintain_v timotihe_n and_o titus_n and_o the_o angel_n of_o ephesus_n etc._n etc._n to_o have_v be_v may_v give_v place_n on_o occasion_n to_o those_o forename_a ground_n 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15._o equal_a in_o honour_n and_o power_n pastoral_n howbeit_o these_o constant_a precedent_n be_v bishop_n then_o to_o no_o diocesan_n multitude_n disperse_v abroad_o in_o many_o ordinary_a set_a assembly_n but_o to_o one_o ordinary_a assembly_n only_o as_o be_v note_v often_o before_o and_o so_o the_o great_a argument_n of_o these_o doctor_n which_o they_o take_v from_o the_o â—_o the_o perp._n gov_n pag._n 260._o d._n down_o def._n 4._o &_o â—_o succession_n of_o bishop_n to_o prove_v our_o bishop_n as_o they_o be_v in_o england_n to_o be_v lawful_a may_v appear_v to_o be_v a_o mere_a sophism_n &_o deceit_n for_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n also_o may_v by_o such_o a_o show_n of_o succession_n prove_v his_o office_n and_o function_n lawful_a as_o in_o deed_n he_o do_v endeavour_n to_o do_v and_o do_v it_o as_o well_o as_o they_o but_o though_o all_o these_o bishop_n have_v one_o name_n viz._n bishop_n yet_o between_o the_o first_o and_o the_o last_o of_o they_o there_o be_v see_v 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bishop_n like_o office_n there_o as_o james_n i_o grant_v do_v in_o jerusalem_n and_o titus_n in_o crete_n yea_o by_o assignment_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o questionless_a so_o the_o ancient_a writer_n mean_v where_o they_o call_v james_n bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o titus_n bishop_n of_o crete_n for_o neither_o james_n nor_o titus_n be_v nor_o can_v be_v proper_a bishop_n there_o which_o i_o show_v thus_o every_o bishop_n be_v appropriate_v limit_v and_o confine_v only_o to_o one_o church_n james_n neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v appropriate_v and_o confine_v only_o to_o one_o church_n therefore_o jame_v neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v a_o bishop_n the_o proposition_n be_v most_o evident_a and_o grant_v of_o our_o 232._o our_o d._n bilson_n pag._n 227._o 232._o adversary_n the_o assumption_n they_o neither_o aught_o nor_o dare_v deny_v for_o james_n have_v from_o christ_n a_o ministry_n and_o call_v to_o all_o church_n throughout_o the_o world_n this_o he_o retain_v still_o he_o 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no_o more_o can_v james_n be_v both_o appropriate_v to_o jerusalem_n and_o not_o appropriate_v at_o one_o time_n neither_o can_v the_o proper_a bishop_n office_n be_v conjoin_v with_o a_o apostleship_n for_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a see_v the_o apostleship_n contain_v the_o whole_a bishoply_n office_n and_o more_o too_o but_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o church_n administration_n do_v no_o thing_n in_o vain_a &_o idle_o again_o though_o the_o apostleship_n contain_v in_o it_o the_o whole_a office_n of_o a_o proper_a bishop_n yet_o this_o be_v 30._o be_v declarat_fw-la pag._n 30._o material_o not_o formal_o as_o a_o privy_a counsailler_n in_o england_n have_v in_o he_o the_o office_n and_o power_n of_o a_o justice_n of_o peace_n also_o a_o shilling_n contain_v a_o groat_n but_o no_o man_n that_o mean_v plain_o will_v say_v a_o shilling_n be_v a_o groat_n or_o a_o privy_a counsailler_n be_v a_o justice_n of_o peace_n if_o any_o do_v it_o be_v not_o right_o nor_o true_o speak_v for_o not_o the_o matter_n but_o the_o form_n do_v give_v the_o proper_a name_n yet_o i_o do_v not_o deny_v all_o use_n of_o unproper_a speech_n i_o grant_v on_o some_o occasion_n man_n may_v speak_v general_o and_o undistinct_o of_o thing_n proper_o in_o reason_v we_o must_v always_o speak_v proper_o as_o i_o deem_v those_o ancient_n do_v of_o bishop_n nevertheless_o in_o ordinary_a teach_n and_o special_o in_o reason_v and_o dispute_v we_o must_v ever_o use_v exact_a and_o proper_a term_n avoid_v generality_n and_o word_n unproper_a otherwise_o we_o equivocate_v to_o this_o reason_n that_o the_o apostle_n give_v not_o james_n any_o power_n which_o he_o have_v not_o before_o as_o a_o apostle_n d._n downame_n answer_v that_o which_o be_v both_o false_a and_o also_o most_o presumptuous_a for_o plain_o he_o say_v 5â—â—_n say_v def._n 4_o 5â—â—_n james_n the_o apostle_n have_v not_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n before_o he_o be_v design_v bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n o_o haughty_a bishop_n who_o arrogat_fw-la to_o themselves_o a_o power_n beyond_o the_o apostle_n no_o marvel_n if_o he_o say_v 59_o pag._n 59_o it_o be_v no_o depress_v of_o a_o apostle_n to_o become_v a_o proper_a bishop_n for_o only_o this_o may_v lâ—ft_v up_o a_o bishop_n above_o a_o apostle_n his_o other_o idle_a 63._o idle_a pag._n 62._o 63._o respect_n and_o consideration_n neither_o do_v nor_o can_v bishop_n titus_n and_o timothy_n be_v no_o proper_a bishop_n nay_o but_o titus_n &_o timothy_n and_o their_o bishopriks_n do_v make_v the_o most_o business_n of_o all_o of_o who_o d._n bilson_n say_v 300._o say_v perpet_n gouâ—_n pag._n 300._o here_o i_o must_v pray_v the_o christian_a reader_n advise_o to_o mark_v what_o be_v say_v &_o answer_v on_o either_o side_n this_o indeed_o be_v the_o main_a erection_n of_o the_o episcopal_a power_n and_o function_n
be_v not_o perpetual_a evangeliste_n be_v not_o perpetual_a also_o bishop_n yea_o presbyter_n be_v not_o perpetual_a in_o church_n under_o the_o gospel_n but_o a_o congregation_n be_v perpetual_a absolute_o â—â—_o absolute_o math._n 16._o â—â—_o the_o gate_n of_o destruction_n shall_v never_o overcome_v it_o wherefore_o this_o power_n be_v essential_o in_o the_o congregation_n and_o so_o the_o consequence_n be_v false_a 77._o false_a pag._n 77._o these_o direction_n be_v perpetual_a therefore_o peculiar_a to_o bishop_n i_o say_v this_o sequel_n can_v not_o be_v true_a wherewith_o be_v conjoin_v a_o other_o false_a reason_n viz._n they_o be_v not_o common_a either_o to_o other_o christian_n or_o other_o minister_n therefore_o peculiar_a to_o bishop_n nay_o they_o be_v common_a they_o may_v be_v and_o be_v exercise_v by_o divers_a form_n of_o administration_n as_o before_o i_o show_v &_o not_o all_o way_n by_o bishop_n and_o yet_o i_o grant_v thy_o be_v to_o be_v exercise_v most_o 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material_o that_o power_n be_v not_o a_o high_a power_n then_o episcopal_a but_o formal_o it_o be_v and_o so_o his_o consequence_n be_v false_a for_o a_o evangelist_n power_n be_v high_o yea_o the_o church_n power_n by_o who_o simple_o sometime_o both_o the_o make_n of_o minister_n and_o censure_n be_v perform_v be_v 3.22_o be_v 1._o cor._n 3.22_o high_a than_o the_o bishop_n power_n again_o he_o say_v this_o power_n of_o bishop_n be_v so_o much_o of_o the_o apostolical_a power_n as_o be_v to_o continue_v to_o the_o end_n but_o then_o he_o shall_v not_o make_v the_o bishop_n power_n more_o than_o the_o apostolical_a as_o 248_o as_o see_v before_o pag._n 240._o 248_o he_o do_v which_o thus_o also_o appear_v viz._n the_o apostle_n exclude_v not_o the_o people_n consent_n but_o his_o bishop_n do_v how_o then_o say_v he_o it_o be_v apostolical_a beside_o in_o all_o this_o he_o equivocate_v for_o this_o power_n of_o bishop_n be_v the_o apostle_n as_o i_o say_v general_o not_o proper_o material_o not_o formal_o he_o will_v find_v 79._o find_v pag._n 79._o a_o difference_n in_o his_o refuter_fw-la but_o it_o be_v easy_o reconcile_v viz._n understand_v he_o of_o divers_a kind_n of_o bishop_n thus_o some_o kind_n of_o bishop_n be_v in_o christ_n testament_n some_o absolute_o have_v no_o place_n there_o the_o former_a have_v power_n from_o christ_n the_o late_a have_v none_o after_o he_o make_v great_a outcry_n of_o 81._o of_o pag._n 80._o 81._o schismatical_a novelty_n &_o dream_n &_o dotage_n fantastical_a &_o fanatical_a spirit_n and_o frenzy_n right_o as_o the_o papist_n cry_v out_o haeretik_n haeretik_n themselves_o be_v the_o great_a haeretik_n of_o all_o but_o the_o chritstian_a reader_n may_v know_v that_o this_o be_v the_o doctor_n fury_n &_o malice_n against_o our_o attestator_n before_o cite_v and_o against_o other_o also_o who_o follow_v they_o yea_o against_o etc._n against_o see_v before_o pag._n 73._o 74._o etc._n etc._n himself_o it_o be_v &_o some_o of_o his_o friend_n his_o slander_n that_o we_o maintain_v such_o popular_a government_n as_o morellius_n strive_v for_o be_v sufficient_o answer_v 24._o answer_v pag._n 24._o before_o some_o of_o the_o separation_n i_o grant_v be_v to_o offensive_a this_o way_n which_o i_o be_o hearty_o sorry_a for_o they_o take_v the_o word_n in_o math._n 18.17_o tell_v the_o church_n more_o popular_o they_o there_o be_v need_n or_o then_o reason_n or_o good_a order_n will_v howbeit_o in_o this_o yet_o they_o hold_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o true_a church-goverm_a they_o err_v but_o in_o the_o circumstance_n of_o order_n though_o it_o be_v to_o 18.17_o to_o bera_n anâ—â—_n cat_n in_o math._n 18.17_o foul_a that_o be_v they_o will_v examine_v all_o scandal_n etc._n etc._n whatsoever_o in_o the_o presence_n &_o under_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o whole_a multitude_n perpetual_o &_o necessary_o i_o say_v perpetual_o &_o necessary_o wherein_o i_o wonder_v they_o see_v not_o the_o many_o very_a ill_a consequent_n which_o will_n &_o must_v ensue_v many_o time_n as_o touch_v we_o what_o we_o hold_v herein_o i_o have_v show_v 83._o show_v pag._n 22._o 24._o 82._o 83._o before_o and_o our_o docts_n do_v most_o injurious_o 355._o injurious_o def._n 4.81_o perp._n gov_n pag._n 355._o wrong_v beza_n &_o the_o geneva_n discipline_n if_o that_o be_v geneva_n discipline_n which_o viret_n calvin_n &_o beza_n teach_v they_o in_o say_v they_o differ_v material_o from_o us._n our_o d._n ask_v be_v there_o any_o show_n in_o scripture_n or_o in_o reason_n that_o the_o sheep_n shall_v rule_v their_o shepherd_n or_o the_o flock_n their_o pastor_n the_o very_a voice_n of_o a_o jesuit_n &_o not_o of_o a_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n bellarm._n argue_v just_a so_o 7._o so_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr clersc_n 1._o 7._o against_o the_o old_a procestants_n as_o to_o the_o point_n let_v he_o know_v that_o reasonable_a sheep_n under_o the_o gosp_n have_v more_o to_o do_v in_o their_o spiritual_a government_n they_o brute_n beast_n have_v to_o do_v in_o their_o government_n sensual_a last_o here_o he_o can_v easy_o scoff_v and_o revile_v the_o modest_a &_o christian_a offer_n of_o disputation_n &_o those_o that_o favour_n it_o &_o some_o of_o we_o he_o will_v help_v to_o persecute_v but_o undertake_v that_o offer_v honest_o &_o plain_o he_o never_o will_n he_o say_v 82._o say_v pag._n 82._o we_o understand_v the_o speech_n of_o 5.22_o of_o 1._o tim._n 5.22_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n as_o direct_v not_o to_o timothy_n but_o to_o the_o people_n &_o to_o titus_n 3.10_o titus_n tit._n 3.10_o avoid_v a_o haeretik_a or_o excommunicate_a he_o that_o be_v thou_o people_n which_o be_v false_a we_o understand_v it_o not_o so_o he_o do_v therefore_o herein_o slander_v us._n we_o know_v these_o word_n be_v direct_v to_o timothy_n &_o titus_n yet_o to_o they_o not_o as_o lord_n over_o the_o people_n nor_o as_o sole_a ruler_n but_o as_o guide_n and_o director_n of_o they_o as_o father_n to_o inform_v 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the_o people_n concurrence_n and_o consent_n as_o present_o before_o be_v observe_v but_o d._n downame_n avouch_v 8â—_n avouch_v def._n 4_o 8â—_n our_o bishop_n at_o this_o day_n have_v not_o great_a authoâ—â—tie_n in_o menage_v church_n cause_n than_o timothy_n and_o titus_n have_v which_o be_v notorious_o untrue_a these_o follow_v the_o apostle_n take_v the_o people_n consent_n with_o they_o our_o bishop_n do_v not_o they_o only_o teach_v they_o &_o persuade_v they_o &_o use_v spiritual_a power_n we_o if_o they_o can_v not_o persuade_v the_o people_n or_o their_o pastor_n will_v cast_v they_o in_o prison_n punish_v their_o body_n &_o their_o purse_n he_o say_v timothy_n &_o titus_n may_v use_v the_o presence_n or_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n or_o the_o counsel_n and_o advise_v of_o the_o presbyter_n in_o 〈◊〉_d of_o great_a moment_n as_o prince_n do_v in_o commonwealth_n i_o think_v it_o be_v a_o stately_a
and_o princelike_a prelacy_n which_o this_o doctor_n hunt_v after_o though_o in_o many_o place_n of_o his_o book_n he_o dissemble_v and_o will_v not_o have_v they_o call_v sole_a governor_n here_o he_o plain_o show_v that_o he_o hold_v the_o bishop_n may_v take_v the_o people_n consent_n and_o presbyter_n advise_v if_o they_o like_v it_o if_o not_o than_o they_o may_v nevertheless_o proceed_v and_o not_o stand_v upon_o it_o as_o prince_n may_v do_v in_o common_a wealth_n true_o all_o find_a writer_n ever_o have_v hold_v this_o in_o church-governement_n to_o be_v right_o 45._o right_o see_v our_o attestator_n pag._n 23._o 25._o 26._o 27._o 29._o 31._o 32._o 33._o 35._o 36._o 37._o 42._o 45._o tyrannical_a &_o wronghfull_a oppression_n of_o christian_a man_n conscience_n and_o yet_o as_o i_o have_v oft_o say_v we_o grant_v the_o sway_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a government_n to_o be_v indeed_o in_o the_o bishop_n ordinary_o but_o not_o absolute_o the_o consequence_n of_o his_o 83._o his_o pag._n 83._o next_o proposition_n i_o deny_v also_o viz._n the_o thing_n write_v to_o inform_v not_o timothy_n &_o titus_n alone_o as_o extraordinary_a person_n but_o they_o &_o their_o successor_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n be_v write_v to_o inform_v diocesan_n bishop_n they_o be_v not_o diocesan_a bishop_n be_v no_o successor_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n nor_o intend_v by_o the_o apostle_n they_o come_v after_o by_o reason_n of_o that_o apostasy_n which_o through_o god_n determinat_fw-la counsel_n be_v to_o come_v over_o christendom_n without_o which_o go_v before_o antichrist_n can_v not_o have_v stand_v up_o he_o add_v 84._o add_v pag._n 84._o the_o authority_n commit_v to_o tim._n and_o tit_n be_v perpetual_o necessary_a it_o be_v true_a material_o not_o formal_o as_o before_o be_v say_v beside_o tim._n &_o tit._n themselves_o have_v not_o the_o authority_n which_o diocesan_n bishop_n have_v it_o be_v far_o less_o therefore_o these_o be_v not_o their_o successor_n where_o he_o will_v prove_v it_o first_o disjunctive_o 86._o disjunctive_o pag._n 86._o either_o they_o or_o the_o presbytery_n or_o the_o congregation_n be_v their_o successor_n i_o answer_v this_o disjunction_n be_v unsufficient_a he_o reckon_v not_o pastor_n or_o bishop_n of_o one_o ordinary_a congregation_n only_o they_o be_v the_o immediate_a successor_n of_o timothy_n &_o titus_n speak_v of_o such_o a_o succession_n as_o they_o have_v and_o may_v have_v be_v evangelist_n about_o 200._o year_n after_o christ_n titular_a diocesan_n succeed_v they_o after_o 300._o year_n office_n these_o improper_o succeed_v viz._n in_o place_n not_o in_o office_n diocesan_n with_o maioritie_n of_o power_n and_o rule_v succeed_v after_o they_o long_o come_v the_o proper_a and_o complete_a diocesan_n prelate_n the_o diocesan_n lord_n bishop_n of_o who_o our_o question_n be_v indeed_o but_o among_o all_o these_o whosoever_o be_v a_o bishop_n real_o of_o mo_z ordinary_a congregation_n than_o one_o therein_o he_o succeed_v not_o timothy_n nor_o titus_n nor_o any_o apostle_n who_o never_o intend_v any_o such_o ordinary_a successor_n and_o succession_n in_o place_n with_o dissent_n in_o doctrine_n be_v a_o false_a succession_n beside_o a_o presbytery_n do_v 17.28_o do_v act._n 20_o 17.28_o precede_v timothy_n in_o ephesus_n therefore_o they_o may_v lawful_o succeed_v as_o they_o do_v now_o in_o the_o dutch_a and_o french_a reform_v church_n the_o people_n also_o have_v in_o act_n succeed_v lawful_o at_o sometime_o as_o the_o d._n himself_o 99_o himself_o pag._n 99_o know_v and_o therefore_o so_o they_o may_v again_o on_o occasion_n then_o he_o will_v 87._o will_v pag._n 86._o 87._o name_v bishop_n that_o succeed_v timothiâ—_n and_o titus_n mean_v he_o proper_a diocesan_n l._n bishop_n if_o he_o do_v not_o he_o trifle_v but_o who_o be_v they_o first_o the_o angel_n of_o ephesus_n and_o onesimus_n nay_o these_o be_v bishop_n only_o of_o one_o ordinary_a congregation_n and_o that_o within_o the_o city_n ephesus_n as_o 227._o as_o pag._n 206._o 227._o before_o i_o have_v note_v that_o polycrates_n and_o philip_n of_o gortyna_n in_o crete_n be_v such_o also_o i_o have_v show_v 231._o show_v pag._n 235._o 231._o before_o as_o also_o the_o doct._n falsehood_n about_o philip._n where_o he_o say_v 87._o say_v pag._n 87._o every_o metropolitan_a be_v a_o diocesan_n it_o be_v untrue_a the_o first_o bishop_n be_v metropolitan_n that_o be_v bishop_n in_o mother-city_n yet_o they_o be_v not_o diocesan_n bishop_n viz._n over_o mo_z ordinary_a congregation_n then_o one_o he_o say_v he_o read_v not_o any_o where_n of_o the_o next_o successor_n to_o titus_n indeed_o he_o read_v of_o no_o proper_a successor_n to_o titus_n at_o all_o nor_o to_o tim._n etc._n etc._n ordinary_a pastor_n of_o congregation_n succeed_v these_o extraordinary_a man_n as_o they_o also_o succeed_v the_o apostle_n viz._n improper_o not_o in_o their_o whole_a and_o proper_a office_n our_o d._n follow_v d._n dove_n will_v prove_v that_o timothy_n &_o titus_n have_v 89._o have_v pag_n 89._o their_o ordinary_a residence_n in_o ephesus_n &_o in_o crete_n because_o one_o be_v will_v â—â—_o will_v 1._o tim_n 1._o â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o abide_v at_o ephesus_n 1.5_o tit._n 1.5_o the_o other_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o redress_v further_o the_o thing_n which_o he_o find_v there_o amiss_o it_o be_v true_a for_o a_o time_n each_o of_o they_o be_v so_o resident_a but_o not_o always_o nor_o till_o they_o die_v for_o not_o long_o after_o timothy_n be_v 4.9_o be_v 2._o tim._n 4.9_o call_v away_o and_o tychicus_n a_o other_o evangelist_n be_v send_v to_o 2d_o to_o eph._n 6_o 2d_o ephesus_n in_o his_o room_n when_o if_o timothy_n have_v be_v there_o still_o it_o seem_v there_o have_v ben_fw-mi no_o need_n of_o tychicus_n neither_o will_v paul_n have_v leave_v he_o unsaluted_a and_o unnamed_a in_o that_o epistle_n to_o the_o ephesian_n also_o the_o apostle_n 1â—_n apostle_n philip._n 2_o 1â—_n intend_v that_o timothy_n be_v come_v from_o ephesus_n shall_v undertake_v the_o charge_n of_o philipps_n therefore_o he_o be_v now_o loose_a and_o free_a from_o ephesus_n writer_n also_o say_v that_o john_n the_o apostle_n afterward_o be_v at_o ephesus_n do_v a_o bishoply_n office_n when_o sure_o timothy_n be_v not_o bishop_n there_o yet_o as_o may_v be_v think_v he_o be_v then_o live_v our_o d._n add_v that_o bishop_n &_o other_o pastor_n may_v be_v absent_a from_o their_o cure_n upon_o special_a and_o extraordinary_a occasion_n it_o be_v untrue_a they_o may_v not_o residenâ—â—_n now_o residenâ—â—_n all_o religion_n and_o piety_n forbid_v it_o unless_o it_o be_v with_o their_o church_n express_a consent_n which_o timothy_n here_o have_v not_o the_o apostle_n as_o he_o alone_o place_v he_o at_o ephesus_n so_o he_o alone_o without_o the_o church_n call_v he_o away_o you_o will_v say_v and_o he_o alone_o may_v do_v so_o true_a the_o apostle_n alone_o may_v do_v so_o with_o evangelist_n but_o he_o may_v not_o with_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n these_o be_v more_o in_o their_o church_n power_n then_o so_o neither_o indeed_o have_v it_o be_v 93._o be_v pag._n 93._o a_o matter_n of_o good_a report_n nor_o of_o good_a example_n as_o his_o refuter_fw-la say_v well_o if_o timothy_n be_v the_o ephesian_n proper_a bishop_n have_v without_o their_o special_a grant_n go_v from_o they_o chief_o so_o long_a time_n and_o so_o far_o of_o and_o to_o take_v charge_n of_o another_o place_n neither_o very_o have_v paul_n any_o need_n so_o to_o take_v away_o a_o proper_a pastor_n from_o his_o flock_n the_o same_o likewise_o be_v to_o be_v say_v of_o titus_n his_o departure_n from_o crete_n first_o to_o rome_n then_o to_o dalmatia_n but_o he_o will_v prove_v that_o 91._o that_o pag._n 91._o they_o live_v and_o dye_v in_o ephesus_n and_o crete_n if_o they_o do_v yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v bishop_n there_o nor_o yet_o that_o they_o have_v ordinary_a residence_n there_o all_o their_o life_n time_n it_o may_v happen_v that_o travayl_v to_o &_o fro_o they_o may_v in_o the_o end_n of_o their_o day_n die_v there_o for_o somewhere_o they_o must_v die_v and_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o therefore_o bishop_n of_o that_o place_n neither_o have_v they_o therefore_o ordinary_a residence_n there_o till_o their_o end_n but_o who_o say_v they_o dye_v there_o some_o who_o testimony_n whosoever_o refuse_v to_o believe_v do_v themselves_o deserve_v no_o credit_n yea_o be_v they_o so_o infallible_a who_o be_v they_o dorotheus_n in_o synopis_n and_o on_o his_o word_n some_o other_o he_o know_v not_o well_o who_o then_o all_o this_o matter_n stand_v on_o this_o dorotheus_n who_o credit_n 104._o credit_n pag._n 104._o himself_o fear_v indeed_o just_o for_o he_o be_v the_o most_o egregious_a fable_a that_o ever_o write_v fable_a dorotheus_n a_o fable_a here_o i_o wish_v it_o may_v
mean_a that_o any_o first_o presbyter_n in_o a_o church_n be_v formal_o appoint_v to_o 〈◊〉_d diocese_n under_o the_o apostle_n some_o kind_n of_o 89._o of_o see_v before_o pag._n 89._o diocese_n be_v apostolic_a but_o he_o show_v sufficient_o that_o these_o bb._n diocese_n begin_v somewhile_o after_o the_o apostle_n in_o that_o he_o say_v 6.24_o say_v bez._n de_fw-fr grad_v min._n 6.24_o they_o be_v first_o frame_v according_a to_o the_o division_n of_o the_o province_n under_o the_o roman_a empire_n which_o very_o be_v nor_o regard_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n nor_o in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o wherefore_o beza_n mean_v the_o first_o presbyter_n thus_o assign_v formal_o be_v after_o the_o apostle_n &_o their_o abuse_a name_n bishop_n also_o last_o i_o can_v pass_v how_o insolent_o the_o d._n etc._n d._n def._n 3.15_o etc._n etc._n taunt_v i_o for_o observe_v many_o sort_n of_o bishop_n and_o namely_o for_o 7._o for_o in_o reas_fw-la for_o ref_o pag._n 7._o set_v down_o six_o sort_n of_o they_o also_o for_o be_v ignorant_a whether_o jerusalem_n or_o caesarea_n have_v the_o patriarchship_n &_o for_o suppose_v diocesan_n rule_v bishop_n may_v begin_v with_o dionysius_n at_o aâ—exandria_n and_o for_o not_o speak_v any_o thing_n of_o metropolitan_o beginning_n let_v the_o d._n know_v i_o be_v not_o ignorant_a that_o jerusalem_n have_v the_o patriarchship_n but_o it_o be_v a_o question_n and_o that_o i_o mean_v to_o touch_v whether_o jerusalem_n exercise_v ordinary_a jurisdiction_n over_o caeâ—area_n &_o the_o province_n thereof_o or_o not_o margin_n pag._n 8._o in_o margin_n but_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o no_o worth_n therefore_o i_o pass_v it_o substance_n metropolitan_o diocesan_n patriarch_n all_o one_o in_o substance_n metropolitan_o in_o his_o sense_n 〈◊〉_d speak_v not_o of_o when_o i_o reckon_v up_o the_o liver_n sort_n of_o bishop_n because_o in_o substance_n of_o their_o office_n they_o be_v all_o â—ne_n with_o diocesan_n archbishop_n and_o patriarch_n of_o who_o whosoever_o hold_v â—ne_a lawful_a will_v hold_v all_o so_o to_o be_v and_o â—e_v who_o hold_v one_o apostolic_a will_v acknowledge_v they_o all_o apostolic_a this_o therefore_o also_o be_v no_o matter_n what_o â—oever_o he_o make_v of_o it_o touch_v diâ—â—ysius_n of_o alexandria_n i_o confess_v i_o be_v to_o â—lame_v in_o think_v he_o may_v be_v the_o author_n of_o majoritie_n of_o power_n &_o rule_v â—n_o diocesan_n bishop_n it_o be_v because_o i_o â—udged_v it_o to_o be_v ancient_a than_o indeed_o â—t_z be_v or_o then_o reason_n give_v it_o begin_v maioritie_n of_o power_n when_o it_o begin_v now_o â—herefore_o i_o profess_v it_o can_v be_v rove_v to_o be_v ancient_a than_o the_o niceâ—_n council_n or_o constantine_n the_o emperor_n as_o i_o note_v before_o once_o d._n bilson_n be_v also_o of_o this_o mind_n with_o i_o where_o he_o show_v that_o it_o be_v not_o 318._o not_o against_o the_o seminar_n part_n 2._o pag._n 318._o by_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n nor_o his_o apostle_n but_o long_o after_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n the_o custom_n of_o the_o time_n and_o the_o will_n of_o prince_n and_o touch_v my_o make_v many_o sort_n of_o bishop_n and_o my_o distinguish_n of_o the_o word_n the_o doct._n mislike_v that_o show_v his_o ignorance_n not_o a_o little_a or_o else_o he_o show_v that_o which_o be_v worse_o if_o he_o mislike_v that_o i_o make_v so_o many_o sort_n as_o six_o true_o it_o be_v my_o fault_n that_o i_o make_v so_o few_o jerom_n witness_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o his_o time_n come_v to_o that_o power_n paulatim_fw-la by_o little_a &_o little_a and_o the_o universal_a monarch_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n come_v not_o to_o his_o greatness_n at_o once_o papacy_n have_v papalitie_n go_v before_o in_o divers_a and_o sundry_a degree_n the_o word_n reason_n and_o experience_n do_v show_v in_o such_o alteration_n of_o government_n at_o least_o so_o many_o distinct_a difference_n yea_o mo_z also_o now_o therefore_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o give_v i_o leave_v upon_o better_a consideration_n to_o set_v down_o the_o distinction_n of_o bishop_n in_o 7._o difference_n bishop_n seven_o sort_n of_o bishop_n i_o affirm_v therefore_o that_o the_o name_n bishop_n in_o christian_a writer_n be_v give_v to_o seven_o divers_a sort_n which_o to_o observe_v be_v right_a needful_a and_o most_o profitable_a to_o end_v this_o great_a controversy_n first_o the_o name_n be_v general_o give_v even_o to_o 20._o to_o act._n 1_o 20._o apostle_n yea_o evangeliste_n also_o may_v so_o be_v call_v bishop_n as_o 240._o as_o pag._n 238._o 240._o before_o be_v show_v second_o it_o be_v give_v to_o pastor_n equal_a and_o 1.1_o and_o act._n 20.28_o philip_n 1.1_o many_o in_o one_o ordinary_a congregation_n to_o who_o also_o the_o name_n of_o presbyter_n be_v common_a such_o be_v the_o ministry_n now_o in_o the_o dutch_a &_o french_a church_n three_o one_o pastor_n of_o a_o church_n contain_v no_o mo_z ordinary_a congregation_n but_o one_o be_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n writer_n call_v a_o bishop_n singular_o as_o linus_n be_v at_o rome_n anianus_n at_o alexandria_n onesimus_n at_o ephesus_n ignatius_n at_o antioch_n polycarpus_n at_o smyrna_n etc._n etc._n such_o also_o be_v the_o 2.1_o the_o rev._n 2.1_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n in_o ephesus_n and_o in_o smyrna_n etc._n etc._n the_o scripture_n give_v not_o he_o the_o name_n bishop_n peculiar_o when_o he_o have_v other_o assistant_n pastor_n with_o he_o but_o other_o writer_n do_v which_o true_o i_o will_v not_o strive_v against_o four_o the_o name_n bishop_n be_v give_v to_o a_o titular_a diocesan_n bishop_n of_o who_o none_o can_v be_v prove_v ancient_a than_o julianus_n the_o ten_o bishop_n in_o alexandria_n five_o diocesan_n bishop_n with_o 25._o with_o declarat_fw-la pag._n 24._o 25._o maioritie_n of_o power_n be_v call_v bishop_n these_o begin_v in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a or_o otherwise_o under_o constantine_n though_o the_o council_n speak_v of_o metropolitan_o long_o before_o yet_o their_o power_n over_o their_o brethren_n be_v not_o ratify_v by_o any_o law_n five_o diocesan_n bishop_n with_o 25._o with_o declarat_fw-la pag._n 24._o 25._o maioritie_n of_o power_n be_v call_v bishop_n these_o begin_v in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a or_o otherwise_o under_o constantine_n though_o the_o council_n speak_v of_o metropolitan_o long_o before_o yet_o their_o power_n over_o their_o brethren_n be_v not_o ratify_v by_o any_o law_n or_o public_a ordinnance_n till_o then_o it_o be_v before_o but_o arbitrary_a by_o the_o church_n affection_n and_o no_o otherwise_o six_o the_o diocesan_n l._n bishop_n or_o the_o sole_a govern_v bishop_n be_v call_v a_o bishop_n such_o be_v we_o now_o in_o england_n of_o the_o original_n and_o first_o beginning_n of_o such_o i_o have_v speak_v 67._o speak_v pag._n 66._o 67._o before_o seaventh_o a_o pope_n or_o universal_a pastor_n have_v this_o name_n bishop_n he_o 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bilson_n perp_v gov_fw-mi chap._n 4._o whole_a chapter_n to_o make_v they_o seem_v to_o signify_v a_o senate_n or_o bench_n of_o jewish_a civil_a magistrate_n which_o he_o learn_v only_o from_o a_o physician_n erastus_n but_o there_o be_v a_o sufficient_a refutation_n of_o this_o opinion_n in_o the_o three_o argument_n of_o the_o divine_a beginning_n and_o institution_n of_o christ_n true_a visib_n church_n second_o d._n bilson_n contradict_v himself_o understand_v these_o word_n of_o a_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n or_o synod_n thus_o also_o do._n downame_n understand_v they_o as_o 107.108_o as_o pa._n 107.108_o before_o we_o have_v see_v where_o be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n likewise_o thereunto_o three_o master_n johnson_n of_o the_o separation_n since_o in_o this_o point_n he_o turn_v his_o opinion_n upside_o down_o 1611._o down_o treat_n of_o the_o exposit_n of_o mat._n 18.19_o anno._n 1611._o affirm_v that_o these_o word_n signify_v that_o the_o jewish_a form_n of_o
otherwise_o here_o as_o indeed_o it_o be_v beside_o i_o remember_v not_o above_o ofteâ—_n above_o 1_o cor._n 12.28_o which_o be_v not_o ofteâ—_n one_o such_o place_n as_o he_o signifi_v and_o yet_o there_o it_o be_v in_o the_o plural_a number_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d power_n not_o in_o the_o singular_a between_o which_o place_n and_o we_o in_o hand_n there_o be_v apparent_o very_o great_a difference_n again_o he_o say_v to_o deliver_v unto_o satan_n be_v more_o than_o to_o excommunicate_v it_o be_v not_o yea_o &_o himself_o hold_v so_o likewise_o 58._o likewise_o against_o the_o semina_fw-la part_n 3._o pag._n 58._o heretofore_o he_o which_o be_v excommunicate_a and_o as_o a_o heathen_a be_v out_o of_o christ_n kingdom_n and_o be_v out_o of_o christ_n kingdom_n he_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o satan_n therefore_o it_o be_v all_o one_o neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o many_o be_v seclude_v from_o the_o company_n of_o the_o godly_a for_o a_o time_n that_o be_v not_o yield_v to_o satan_n or_o that_o many_o be_v deliver_v to_o satan_n by_o the_o church_n assemble_v together_o as_o this_o be_v do_v here_o without_o excommunication_n or_o that_o ananias_n and_o elymas_n be_v deliver_v to_o satan_n which_o himself_o 54._o himself_o against_o the_o seminar_n part_n 3._o pag._n 53_o 54._o be_o contradict_v he_o touch_v here_o many_o thing_n beside_o to_o no_o purpose_n viz._n this_o sinner_n be_v deliver_v to_o satan_n that_o it_o may_v bring_v he_o to_o repentance_n why_o and_o that_o be_v the_o proper_a end_n of_o excommunication_n again_o the_o end_n of_o this_o action_n be_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n which_o in_o excommunication_n have_v no_o sense_n except_o it_o be_v metaphorical_a it_o be_v not_o so_o this_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n viz._n the_o lust_n of_o the_o flesh_n have_v great_a sense_n in_o excommunication_n and_o it_o seem_v rather_o a_o metonymicall_a phrase_n than_o a_o metaphorical_a as_o he_o name_v it_o he_o add_v 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god_n have_v ordain_v that_o repentance_n shall_v follow_v from_o both_o as_o it_o do_v indeed_o in_o many_o who_o will_v not_o wonder_v to_o see_v such_o dally_a in_o such_o a_o man_n in_o a_o cause_n so_o serious_a the_o like_a be_v also_o where_o he_o say_v excommunication_n be_v before_o and_o after_o in_o other_o word_n express_v yea_o and_o this_o be_v not_o against_o our_o sense_n of_o deliver_v to_o satan_n but_o much_o for_o it_o see_v all_o the_o circunstance_n &_o coherence_n of_o the_o text_n here_o both_o before_o and_o after_o speak_v only_o of_o excommunication_n and_o the_o phrase_n itself_o to_o deliver_v to_o satan_n be_v so_o fit_a and_o agreeable_a to_o express_v the_o same_o even_o according_a to_o christ_n description_n of_o it_o 18.17_o it_o mat._n 18.17_o let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a that_o be_v without_o the_o church_n christ_n kingdom_n under_o the_o power_n and_o rule_v of_o satan_n in_o like_a state_n and_o condition_n as_o the_o very_a infidel_n and_o unbeliever_n be_v this_o therefore_o be_v much_o for_o us._n but_o say_v he_o 100_o he_o pag._n 100_o this_o be_v no_o such_o new_a find_v or_o vain_a exposition_n chrysostome_n jerome_n ambrose_n theodoret_n occumenius_n theophilact_n etc._n etc._n embrace_v it_o wonderful_a this_o opinion_n and_o these_o very_a testimony_n he_o cite_v 54.56_o cite_v against_o the_o semin_fw-fr part_n 3._o pag_n 54.56_o heretofore_o as_o be_v the_o papist_n then_o he_o â—5_n he_o pag_n â—5_n resist_v &_o refute_v the_o samâ—_n at_o large_a by_o 5._o by_o ambr._n in_o 1_o cor._n 5._o ambrose_n 49._o ambrose_n august_n in_o queâ—t_n vet_z &_o nov_n test_n 49._o austin_n and_o râ—par_fw-la and_o jerom_n ad_fw-la hiliod_n &_o ad_fw-la râ—par_fw-la jerome_n insinuate_v that_o this_o 5._o this_o jerom._n in_o 1._o cor._n 5._o jerome_n which_o now_o he_o ground_v on_o &_o which_o then_o the_o papist_n allege_v be_v a_o counterfeit_a or_o suspect_v at_o least_o be_v this_o fidelity_n be_v this_o upright_o deal_n for_o advantage_n to_o join_v with_o the_o antichristian_a enemy_n yea_o against_o himself_o to_o allow_v of_o the_o self_n same_o witness_n which_o himself_o then_o brand_v with_o infamy_n oppose_v chrysostome_n to_o chrysostome_n jerome_n to_o jerome_n ambrose_n there_o to_o ambrose_n here_o and_o which_o pass_v interpret_n the_o same_o word_n of_o theodoret_n contrary_a here_o to_o that_o he_o do_v 59_o do_v pag._n 59_o there_o what_o mutability_n be_v this_o but_o to_o the_o point_n i_o answer_v this_o his_o sense_n out_o of_o chrysostome_n etc._n etc._n here_o can_v not_o be_v true_a viz._n that_o this_o deliver_n to_o satan_n be_v to_o be_v torment_v corporal_o by_o satan_n for_o then_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o corinth_n have_v this_o miraculous_a power_n give_v they_o at_o paul_n appointement_n they_o be_v then_o the_o visible_a instrumental_a doer_n of_o this_o apostolic_a miracle_n in_o paul_n behalf_n also_o than_o the_o apostle_n have_v power_n and_o do_v use_v to_o strike_v man_n who_o they_o never_o see_v nor_o speak_v with_o be_v far_o from_o they_o in_o other_o country_n all_o which_o how_o absurd_a they_o be_v who_o see_v not_o again_o this_o sinner_n 2._o sinner_n 2._o cor._n 2._o restore_v be_v without_o miracle_n his_o cast_v out_o therefore_o be_v so_o likewise_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v think_v that_o 8.20_o that_o 1._o tim._n 8.20_o paul_n corporal_o torment_v 103._o torment_v pag._n 103._o hymenaus_n and_o alexander_n he_o only_o excommunicate_v they_o and_o yet_o not_o he_o alone_o but_o with_o the_o church_n concurrence_n and_o consent_n whereof_o they_o be_v for_o so_o be_v his_o practice_n in_o other_o action_n of_o church-governement_n as_o we_o see_v in_o 226._o in_o pag._n 226._o another_o place_n he_o read_v 2._o thess_n 3.14_o not_o as_o it_o shall_v be_v he_o read_v if_o any_o obey_v not_o our_o say_n note_v he_o by_o a_o letter_n it_o shall_v be_v 1â—_n be_v bez._n in_o thes_n 3_o 1â—_n if_o any_o obey_v not_o our_o say_n in_o the_o epistle_n note_v he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v he_o &_o withdraw_v yourselves_o from_o he_o as_o it_o be_v in_o vers_n 6._o this_o he_o require_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o the_o thessalonian_o to_o do_v not_o to_o signify_v such_o a_o one_o to_o paul_n that_o he_o may_v do_v it_o the_o word_n be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o i_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d set_v a_o mark_n on_o he_o viz._n of_o excommunication_n for_o it_o can_v bear_v no_o other_o sense_n now_o touch_v call_v to_o the_o ministry_n 66._o ministry_n chap._n 7._o pag._n 66._o he_o labour_v to_o take_v from_o we_o quite_o first_o act._n 1._o about_o mathias_n election_n to_o be_v a_o apostle_n it_o be_v true_a as_o he_o say_v a_o apostle_n may_v not_o be_v choose_v by_o man_n yet_o here_o god_n will_n be_v that_o man_n shall_v and_o they_o do_v go_v about_o this_o election_n and_o proceed_v in_o it_o and_o manage_v the_o same_o so_o far_o as_o 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by_o hear_v peter_n the_o pope_n always_o absurd_a the_o pope_n be_v not_o peter_n nor_o peter_n true_a successor_n the_o text_n show_v that_o the_o ephesian_a church_n then_o and_o every_o church_n still_o be_v a_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n to_o who_o the_o member_n be_v therefore_o ordinary_o to_o hearken_v &_o therefore_o they_o have_v the_o key_n &_o church_n government_n 18.17_o government_n mat._n 18.17_o commit_v by_o christ_n unto_o they_o but_o d._n bilson_n give_v not_o over_o so_o 9_o chap._n 9_o he_o have_v some_o general_a objection_n against_o our_o ground_n of_o scripture_n first_o 100l_n first_o pag._n 100l_n none_o can_v give_v imposition_n of_o hand_n but_o they_o that_o first_o receive_v the_o same_o they_o must_v have_v it_o themselves_o that_o will_v bestow_v it_o on_o other_o lay_v man_n have_v it_o not_o therefore_o they_o can_v not_o give_v it_o i_o answer_v the_o proposition_n fail_v under_o the_o law_n some_o of_o the_o 8.10_o the_o nomb._n 8.10_o people_n impose_v their_o hand_n on_o the_o levite_n in_o the_o gospel_n the_o 12._o apostle_n impose_v their_o hand_n in_o make_v minister_n yet_o these_o receive_v no_o imposition_n of_o hand_n themselves_o again_o we_o must_v note_v here_o two_o distinction_n and_o so_o the_o assumption_n be_v false_a first_o lay_v man_n as_o he_o call_v they_o be_v consider_v single_o or_o joint_o they_o have_v no_o ecclesiastical_a power_n single_o but_o as_o they_o be_v join_v together_o in_o a_o visible_a church_n which_o be_v a_o spiritual_a body_n politic_a and_o a_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n whether_o they_o be_v many_o or_o 18.20_o or_o mat._n 18.20_o few_o so_o even_o these_o lay_v man_n have_v receive_v the_o power_n of_o all_o the_o holy_a thing_n of_o god_n all_o god_n ordinance_n spiritual_a as_o the_o apostle_n say_v unto_o they_o 23_o they_o 1._o cor._n 3._o â—2_n 23_o all_o thing_n be_v you_o and_o you_o christ_n and_o christ_n go_n the_o whole_a congregation_n be_v christ_n 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