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A92075 The Cyprianick-Bishop examined, and found not to be a diocesan, nor to have superior power to a parish minister, or Presbyterian moderator being an answer to J.S. his Principles of the Cyprianick-age, with regard to episcopal power & jurisdiction : together with an appendix, in answer to a railing preface to a book, entituled, The fundamental charter of presbytery / by Gilbert Rule ... Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1696 (1696) Wing R2218; ESTC R42297 93,522 126

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that_o the_o bishop_n allowance_n shall_v be_v have_v and_o on_o this_o occasion_n condemn_v emulation_n as_o the_o mother_n of_o schism_n and_o cit_v that_o place_n all_o thing_n be_v lawful_a but_o all_o thing_n be_v not_o expedient_a from_o all_o which_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o gather_v that_o he_o only_o condemn_v they_o who_o baptise_a without_o church_n authority_n which_o the_o bishop_n as_o mouth_n of_o the_o presbytery_n do_v communicate_v 5._o it_o be_v whole_o without_o warrant_n that_o this_o learned_a author_n add_v to_o tertullian_n word_n and_o in_o subordination_n to_o he_o dehinc_fw-la which_o be_v that_o father_n word_n do_v neither_o signify_v nor_o can_v import_v so_o much_o all_o that_o can_v be_v build_v on_o it_o be_v a_o prior_n dignity_n to_o the_o bishop_n in_o this_o and_o other_o part_n of_o the_o ministerial_a work_n his_o last_o citation_n be_v ignatius_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o baptise_v without_o the_o bishop_n a._n that_o be_v without_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o presbytery_n which_o the_o bishop_n as_o their_o praeses_fw-la convey_v §_o 50._o he_o assert_v next_o p._n 52._o that_o no_o presbyter_n can_v administer_v the_o eucharist_n within_o the_o the_o bishop_n district_n without_o his_o leave_n or_o against_o his_o interdict_v to_o this_o what_o have_v already_o be_v say_v be_v a_o full_a answer_n no_o presbyter_n may_v do_v this_o within_o the_o charge_n of_o a_o parish_n bishop_n without_o his_o leave_n nor_o yet_o in_o a_o presbyterial_a district_n without_o the_o allowance_n of_o the_o presbytery_n give_v out_o by_o their_o episcopus_fw-la praeses_fw-la his_o proof_n be_v exact_o like_o the_o former_a cyprian_n severe_o and_o just_o lash_v some_o schismatical_a presbyter_n who_o by_o themselves_o without_o cyprian_a and_o without_o the_o presbytery_n do_v administer_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o some_o of_o the_o lapse_v who_o be_v not_o due_o reconcile_v to_o the_o church_n i_o know_v no_o presbytery_n that_o 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that_o however_o it_o be_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n in_o our_o day_n the_o exclude_v of_o unworthy_a person_n minister_n and_o other_o have_v be_v much_o more_o to_o be_v observe_v where_o the_o church_n be_v rule_v by_o a_o parity_n of_o presbyter_n than_o where_o it_o be_v govern_v by_o one_o prelate_n §_o 51._o this_o learned_a author_n suppose_v that_o he_o have_v prove_v the_o bishop_n negative_a in_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n hence_o infer_v his_o sovereign_a interest_n in_o excommunication_n absolution_n enjoin_v penance_n etc._n etc._n which_o consequence_n i_o shall_v not_o contest_v with_o he_o but_o i_o hope_v the_o reader_n be_v now_o satisfy_v that_o he_o have_v not_o sufficient_o establish_v the_o antecedent_n nor_o will_v we_o yield_v that_o cyprian_a or_o his_o contemporary_n have_v or_o lay_v claim_n to_o such_o a_o prerogative_n but_o our_o author_n though_o he_o think_v he_o may_v supersede_n the_o proof_n of_o his_o negative_a in_o these_o other_o thing_n yet_o because_o he_o will_v give_v all_o possible_a satisfaction_n he_o undertake_v a_o deduction_n of_o further_a power_n in_o the_o person_n of_o cyprian_a of_o which_o we_o have_v a_o long_a history_n begin_v at_o p._n 56._o i_o have_v nothing_o to_o observe_v on_o the_o account_n he_o give_v of_o cyprian_n conversion_n promotion_n save_o what_o i_o have_v observe_v out_o of_o pontius_n of_o his_o promotion_n to_o be_v presbyter_n and_o bishop_n simul_fw-la &_o semel_fw-la but_o what_o ever_o be_v in_o that_o it_o have_v no_o great_a influence_n on_o our_o cause_n the_o opposition_n he_o meet_v with_o his_o eminency_n for_o grace_n and_o gift_n the_o wicked_a course_n his_o enemy_n take_v while_n under_o the_o persecution_n by_o decius_n he_o retire_v from_o carthage_n how_o they_o get_v some_o of_o the_o confessor_n and_o martyr_n to_o countenance_v they_o and_o they_o upon_o this_o be_v embolden_v by_o themselves_o to_o absolve_v some_o of_o the_o
epistle_n from_o the_o clergy_n of_o rome_n while_o they_o want_v a_o bishop_n to_o the_o clergy_n of_o carthage_n when_o their_o bishop_n be_v in_o his_o retirement_n in_o which_o case_n say_v he_o they_o have_v the_o best_a occasion_n of_o speak_v their_o mind_n free_o of_o the_o power_n of_o presbyter_n and_o the_o usurpation_n of_o bishop_n in_o this_o epistle_n he_o fanci_v that_o he_o find_v argument_n for_o episcopal_a sole_a power_n as_o first_o they_o say_v of_o themselves_o and_o these_o at_o carthage_n that_o they_o be_v only_a seem_o the_o governor_n of_o these_o respective_a church_n and_o only_o keep_v the_o flock_n instead_o of_o the_o respective_a pastor_n the_o bishop_n i_o have_v occasion_n to_o consider_v this_o passage_n before_o i_o blame_v his_o want_n of_o wisdom_n that_o see_v he_o be_v please_v to_o give_v we_o this_o translation_n of_o this_o passage_n he_o have_v yet_o set_v down_o the_o latin_a in_o the_o margin_n out_o of_o which_o one_o may_v easy_o discover_v his_o error_n without_o turn_v to_o the_o epistle_n itself_o it_o be_v a_o strange_a translation_n videmur_fw-la praepositi_fw-la that_o be_v we_o only_o seem_v to_o be_v governor_n i_o be_o sure_a the_o marginal_a note_n on_o this_o epistle_n say_v they_o be_v pastor_n constituti_fw-la and_o pamelius_n from_o this_o passage_n argue_v for_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n over_o other_o church_n and_o he_o that_o animadvert_v on_o pamelius_n say_v clerus_fw-la romanus_n carthaginensem_fw-la agnoscit_fw-la quemadmodum_fw-la &_o alios_fw-la aliarum_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la pastor_n esse_fw-la christiani_n gregi_fw-la praepositos_fw-la wherefore_o videmur_fw-la must_v rather_o signify_v certainty_n than_o doubt_v in_o this_o place_n it_o appear_v not_o only_o to_o ourselves_o but_o to_o all_o we_o be_v acknowledge_v for_o such_o and_o that_o they_o do_v not_o mean_a by_o vice_n pastoris_fw-la a_o vicarious_a power_n delegated_a from_o the_o bishop_n be_v 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judge_n whether_o st._n cyprian_n or_o his_o presume_a presbyter_n have_v take_v too_o much_o on_o they_o at_o carthage_n but_o this_o mistake_n i_o note_v before_o another_o argument_n he_o bring_v be_v from_o some_o martyr_n and_o confessor_n in_o a_o epistle_n to_o cyprian_a commend_v he_o for_o his_o conduct_n in_o oppose_v and_o censure_v these_o presbyter_n i_o also_o commend_v he_o for_o it_o ergo_fw-la i_o think_v he_o have_v sole_a power_n to_o manage_v that_o affair_n the_o consequence_n be_v naught_o he_o hail_v in_o another_o argument_n into_o this_o discourse_n these_o martyr_n and_o confessor_n desire_v that_o cyprian_a be_v so_o glorious_a a_o bishop_n will_v pray_v for_o they_o which_o they_o will_v not_o have_v do_v have_v they_o think_v he_o a_o proud_a aspire_a prelate_n that_o be_v a_o limb_n of_o antichrist_n as_o this_o author_n will_v fain_o give_v he_o out_o to_o have_v be_v it_o be_v a_o injurious_a calumny_n i_o never_o say_v nor_o think_v so_o and_o no_o 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