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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o and_o so_o but_o of_o the_o world_n of_o heathen_n and_o stranger_n which_o be_v absurd_a and_o admission_n in_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a congregation_n give_v he_o only_o the_o opportunity_n of_o exercise_n of_o his_o church-membership_a and_o the_o privilege_n thereof_o whereunto_o he_o have_v right_o before_o hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la all_o which_o have_v be_v so_o cleary_a evince_v by_o judicious_a and_o learned_a mr._n hudson_n in_o his_o vindication_n of_o the_o essence_n and_o unity_n etc._n etc._n that_o any_o man_n that_o will_v not_o wilful_o shut_v his_o eye_n against_o the_o light_n may_v be_v full_o convince_v thereof_o so_o then_o as_o for_o admission_n of_o person_n into_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a congregation_n it_o be_v not_o a_o matter_n of_o so_o high_a essentiality_n to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o for_o that_o wherein_o solemn_a admission_n into_o the_o state_n
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ground_n of_o his_o assert_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o discern_v be_v not_o confine_v to_o elder_n but_o may_v be_v in_o great_a measure_n in_o some_o of_o the_o member_n and_o a_o great_a gift_n when_o all_o be_v join_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o presence_n with_o they_o to_o discern_v and_o judge_v and_o add_v that_o the_o saint_n shall_v judge_v the_o world_n all_o which_o take_v in_o female_a saint_n as_o well_o as_o male_a saint_n section_n 9_o 2._o when_o as_o there_o be_v a_o consent_n and_o approbation_n of_o act_n of_o government_n private_a obedientiall_a and_o not-authoritative_a and_o a_o consent_n and_o approbation_n public_a and_o authoritative_a by_o way_n of_o a_o judicial_a decisive_a vote_n why_o be_v it_o that_o the_o author_n do_v not_o in_o his_o assertion_n determine_v which_o of_o these_o he_o mean_v it_o be_v true_a afterward_o in_o his_o 5_o argument_n he_o be_v express_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o so_o man_n woman_n and_o child_n shall_v be_v joint_o authoritative_a about_o these_o act_n of_o government_n but_o here_o in_o propound_v the_o assertion_n involve_v the_o matter_n in_o a_o ambiguous_a generality_n it_o will_v seem_v to_o bear_v the_o ignorant_a reader_n in_o hand_n that_o we_o do_v grant_v nothing_o to_o people_n about_o these_o act_n of_o government_n but_o a_o passive_a blind_a obedience_n to_o what_o be_v determine_v by_o the_o eldership_n it_o will_v seem_v i_o say_v this_o be_v the_o drift_n of_o it_o the_o rather_o that_o afterward_o sect_n 5._o end_n he_o hint_n at_o our_o doctrine_n in_o this_o expression_n if_o the_o manage_n of_o all_o thing_n be_v commit_v whole_o to_o the_o presbytery_n and_o the_o people_n leave_v out_o only_o to_o see_v and_o judge_v implicit_o by_o their_o eye_n and_o will_n who_o thus_o impropriat_a power_n but_o sure_o this_o be_v either_o a_o gross_a misunderstanding_n or_o a_o foul_a misrepresentation_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o presbyterian_o in_o this_o 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that_o the_o world_n life_n death_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o church_n as_o servant_n in_o way_n of_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n as_o a_o mistress_n call_v commissionate_v they_o under_o her_o they_o be_v the_o church_n as_o mean_n to_o her_o good_a and_o so_o be_v the_o pastor_n and_o ruler_n her_o servant_n in_o this_o sense_n 2._o though_o independent_o will_v not_o stand_v to_o affirm_v that_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v the_o servant_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n as_o their_o mistress_n commissionate_v they_o and_o have_v power_n over_o they_o yet_o i_o be_o ready_a to_o think_v their_o stomach_n will_v stand_v at_o it_o to_o affirm_v so_o much_o of_o the_o apostle_n of_o jesus_n christ_n as_o apostle_n and_o yet_o by_o that_o text_n even_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o as_o apostle_n be_v hold_v forth_o to_o be_v the_o church_n as_o well_o as_o ordinary_a pastor_n and_o ruler_n and_o that_o in_o a_o like_a manner_n for_o aught_o can_v be_v perceive_v by_o the_o text._n 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scripture_n use_v for_o the_o convention_n 〈◊〉_d college_n of_o judge_n or_o ruler_n as_o psal_n 82._o â—_o 1._o 2._o to_o take_v the_o word_n in_o such_o a_o sense_n here_o for_o the_o college_n of_o church_n ruler_n the_o eldership_n put_v no_o sense_n upon_o the_o place_n contrary_a to_o the_o analogy_n of_o faâ—…or_n any_o truth_n otherwhere_o deliver_v in_o scripture_n lâ—t_fw-la mr._n locky_a show_v we_o any_o thing_n of_o this_o kind_n what_o be_v bring_v by_o he_o a_o little_a after_o from_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 4._o shall_v be_v consider_v in_o its_o place_n 3._o â—here_o be_v nothing_o in_o the_o antecedent_n or_o consequent_n or_o in_o the_o context_n of_o the_o place_n inconsistent_a with_o it_o yea_o 4._o the_o purpose_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o text_n and_o circumstanâ—…_n be_v such_o as_o seem_v to_o requâ—…_n it_o to_o be_v take_v in_o such_o a_o signification_n â—…y_o i_o will_v â—ot_n say_v that_o the_o purpose_n or_o circumstance_n will_v force_v we_o to_o take_v the_o 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meaning_n of_o the_o place_n aâ—_n haec_fw-la omne_fw-la &_o illud_fw-la accedit_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o all_o say_v he_o that_o have_v be_v speak_v this_o may_v be_v add_v that_o these_o thing_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v tell_v to_o the_o church_n which_o be_v tell_v to_o these_o who_o be_v with_o authority_n over_o the_o church_n for_o as_o the_o body_n be_v say_v to_o see_v when_o as_o only_o the_o eye_n do_v see_v so_o the_o church_n be_v say_v to_o hear_v that_o which_o these_o only_a hear_v who_o be_v as_o it_o be_v the_o eye_n of_o the_o church_n noâ—_n that_o the_o ruler_n be_v vicarii_fw-la or_o substitute_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o eye_n be_v not_o vicarii_fw-la or_o substitute_n of_o the_o hand_n and_o foot_n but_o as_o the_o body_n be_v a_o certain_a whoâ—e_n whereof_o the_o several_a member_n have_v their_o several_a function_n in_o the_o very_a like_o manner_n the_o church_n be_v aâ—…_n body_n that_o consist_v of_o the_o compaction_n of_o more_o member_n to_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o well_o as_o the_o 〈…〉_o spirit_n of_o god_n give_v it_o to_o elder_n as_o contradiâ—…_n 〈…〉_o from_o single_a believer_n but_o also_o from_o the_o whole_a â—lack_a 〈…〉_o â—hy_a will_v the_o spirit_n of_o â—od_n give_v thiâ—_n name_n to_o eldeâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—…guished_v from_o the_o whole_a flock_n if_o thereby_o be_v 〈…〉_o out_o whaâ—â—is_fw-fr common_a competent_a 〈…〉_o and_o aught_o to_o be_v â—one_n by_o every_o single_a 〈…〉_o locky_a reckon_v up_o the_o act_n whereby_o the_o 〈…〉_o be_v to_o 〈◊〉_d the_o flock_n that_o none_o so_o farâ—_n 〈…〉_o none_o 〈◊〉_d â—…presseth_v some_o only_a and_o 〈…〉_o â—…der_a a_o etc._n etc._n i_o will_v ask_v he_o 〈…〉_o beside_o 〈…〉_o express_v do_v he_o intend_v by_o that_o 〈◊〉_d here_o be_v understand_v exercise_n of_o discipline_n and_o censure_n 〈◊〉_d â—…ons_n go_v astray_o or_o â—one_n astray_o if_o otherwise_o they_o can_v 〈…〉_o or_o reclaim_v and_o reduce_v i_o believe_v they_o must_v by_o this_o meâ—…_n 〈…〉_o by_o these_o express_v take_v heed_n that_o none_o go_v astray_o 〈…〉_o â—nd_v be_v not_o this_o not_o only_a aâ—_n act_n of_o government_n but_o even_o of_o correâ—…ve_a jurâ—…diction_n o_o but_o may_v he_o say_v they_o be_v not_o to_o do_v this_o â—ct_n by_o themselves_o but_o to_o have_v a_o care_n that_o it_o be_v do_v by_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o church_n but_o i_o pray_v how_o by_o tell_v the_o offence_n of_o 〈…〉_o the_o church_n or_o give_v joint_a vote_n as_o other_o professor_n in_o the_o 〈…〉_o it_o come_v under_o public_a cognizance_n and_o judgement_n ay_o 〈…〉_o â—his_fw-la may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o author_n way_n by_o any_o other_o professor_n in_o the_o church_n beside_o the_o eldeâ—_n â—nd_v so_o nothing_o be_v leave_v to_o they_o in_o regard_n of_o which_o that_o name_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shall_v be_v more_o pecuâ—…ar_n to_o they_o than_o any_o other_o professor_n section_n 11_o the_o aâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—…seers_n and_o 〈…〉_o â—…thers_n as_o 〈…〉_o â—…ked_v in_o 〈…〉_o â—…her_o which_o 〈…〉_o â—en_z rather_o 〈…〉_o ashiâ—…_n his_o disâ—…_n 〈…〉_o and_o sâ—lâ—_n 〈…〉_o be_v so_o ruleâ—_n 〈…〉_o but_o 〈…〉_o to_o thâ—_n châ—…_n 〈…〉_o that_o tâ—_n thâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—…y_o oâ—_n 〈◊〉_d â—…d_n 〈…〉_o and_o 〈…〉_o but_o 〈…〉_o as_o a_o brother_n 〈…〉_o the_o 〈…〉_o or_o inâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—…y_o to_o conâ—…_n 〈…〉_o of_o rule_v and_o goâ—…_n 〈…〉_o power_n nor_o alone_o to_o exercise_v 〈…〉_o â—…in_v conâ—…ction_n 〈…〉_o shepâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—…cive_a that_o mr._n locky_a as_o he_o 〈…〉_o so_o he_o will_v not_o deny_v that_o thâ—_n 〈…〉_o only_o of_o the_o church_n be_v so_o call_v 〈…〉_o theâ—_n only_o â—ut_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o profâ—…_n 〈…〉_o in_o the_o power_n and_o act_n oâ—_n ruâ—…_n 〈…〉_o it_o iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d to_o give_v the_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈…〉_o of_o 〈◊〉_d as_o much_o and_o much_o â—ore_o oâ—_n 〈◊〉_d thing_n 〈…〉_o â—hem_fw-mi it_o be_v true_a indeed_o that_o eldeâ—_n 〈…〉_o shall_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o professor_n but_o 〈…〉_o in_o another_o thing_n than_o that_o power_n which_o be_v signify_v by_o the_o name_n of_o ruâ—…â—verâ—eers_n etc._n etc._n i._n c._n the_o power_n and_o authority_n of_o govern_v for_o be_v it_o that_o that_o they_o be_v 〈…〉_o â—ood_a in_o this_o 〈…〉_o why_o be_v they_o not_o all_o 〈…〉_o overseer_n &_o c_o if_o they_o 〈…〉_o the_o name_n the_o thing_n 〈…〉_o the_o rest_n of_o pâ—ofâ—_n 〈…〉_o â—…ession_n of_o 〈…〉_o â—eing_v of_o 〈…〉_o tell_v 〈…〉_o â—…siastick_a goverâ—…_n 〈…〉_o â—qually_o in_o the_o 〈…〉_o of_o governâ—…_n 〈…〉_o calâ—…_n 〈◊〉_d overseâ—…_n 〈…〉_o thaâ—_n 〈…〉_o goâ—_n 〈…〉_o â—at_a then_n 〈…〉_o elderâ—_n 〈…〉_o conâ—…_n the_o 〈…〉_o meet_v 〈…〉_o voteâ—_n 〈…〉_o intimate_v 〈…〉_o the_o wholâ—_n 〈…〉_o â—…te_fw-it conclude_v 〈…〉_o â—…er_o for_o which_o 〈…〉_o over_o the_o church_n 〈…〉_o as_o in_o the_o 〈…〉_o and_o as_o the_o faâ—…_n 〈…〉_o exercise_v by_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈…〉_o of_o see_v 〈…〉_o part_n of_o the_o 〈…〉_o â—…vernment_n 〈…〉_o ruler_n 〈…〉_o so_o in_o and_z 〈…〉_o â—…sed_a by_o any_o other_o â—art_n of_o the_o 〈…〉_o the_o authâ—r_a 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o christâ—_n wash_v his_o 〈◊〉_d foot_n to_o illustrate_v how_o the_o elder_n organical_a power_n of_o government_n shall_v not_o prejudge_v destroy_v or_o take_v away_o the_o people_n equal_a share_n in_o a_o power_n of_o government_n which_o â—e_n call_v fundamental_a which_o yet_o be_v by_o his_o way_n as_o 〈…〉_o of_o government_n as_o any_o ruler_n in_o the_o world_n haâ—…_n 〈…〉_o act_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o government_n when_o i_o 〈…〉_o confess_v i_o be_v amaze_v and_o can_v scarce_o believe_v my_o own_o eye_n 〈◊〉_d that_o such_o a_o thing_n can_v be_v write_v by_o a_o understanding_n 〈◊〉_d advert_v to_o what_o he_o do_v write_v as_o wâ—ste_v in_o chriâ—…_n 〈…〉_o that_o as_o relate_v â—o_o the_o purpose_n he_o have_v 〈…〉_o before_o viz._n that_o elder_n organical_a power_n of_o government_n â—ould_v not_o take_v away_o the_o people_n equal_a share_n of_o fundâ—…_n 〈◊〉_d aâ—_n he_o call_v it_o nor_o the_o exercise_n thereof_o 〈…〉_o and_o his_o disciplâ—…_n brethren_n or_o a_o brotherhood_n 〈…〉_o of_o mutual_a and_o equal_a power_n fundamental_a of_o government_n mr._n locky_a i_o know_v will_v abhor_v a_o thought_n of_o this_o hâ—_n christ_n say_v himself_o be_v thâ—…_n sole_a ruler_n viz._n sovereign_a and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o lawgiver_n or_o waâ—_n christ_n here_o condescend_v to_o 〈…〉_o of_o government_n together_o with_o his_o disciple_n neither_o 〈…〉_o he_o â—ay_n wash_v of_o foot_n be_v a_o act_n very_a 〈◊〉_d from_o 〈◊〉_d or_o be_v hâ—_n by_o abase_v himself_o to_o wash_v his_o disciple_n foot_n 〈◊〉_d he_o â—ow_o they_o be_v to_o bâ—_n officer_n of_o his_o church_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d the_o act_n of_o government_n in_o the_o church_n viz._n that_o they_o shall_v â—n_v the_o exercise_n thereof_o take_v in_o joint_o with_o they_o the_o whoâ—…â—…ople_n sure_o we_o find_v no_o intimation_n of_o such_o a_o intention_n by_o 〈…〉_o in_o the_o text_n and_o the_o thing_n itself_o in_o the_o matter_n 〈…〉_o of_o such_o a_o lesson_n that_o i_o think_v never_o man_n till_o 〈…〉_o will_v imagine_v such_o a_o thing_n intend_v by_o it_o beside_o a_o 〈…〉_o be_v a_o peculiar_a action_n of_o that_o same_o kind_n with_o that_o for_o which_o iâ—_n iâ—_n give_v to_o be_v a_o example_n do_v for_o direction_n to_o do_v the_o like_a 〈◊〉_d wash_v of_o foot_n be_v a_o action_n very_o far_o different_a from_o exeâ—…ise_n of_o government_n but_o be_v it_o not_o evident_a enough_o from_o christ_n own_o â—…pounding_a â—f_n that_o fact_n john_n 13._o 14_o 15._o that_o his_o intention_n thereby_o be_v to_o give_v to_o his_o disciple_n and_o in_o they_o to_o all_o christian_n a_o example_n of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o charity_n among_o themselves_o and_o that_o every_o one_o of_o they_o shall_v be_v ready_a to_o the_o mean_a and_o base_a duty_n whereby_o they_o may_v â—e_v serviceable_a and_o helpful_a to_o another_o now_o what_o be_v this_o to_o mr._n lockiers_n purpose_n here_o if_o this_o be_v not_o i_o know_v not_o what_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d section_n 12_o this_o which_o we_o have_v consider_v be_v all_o that_o mr._n locky_a answer_v to_o the_o argument_n for_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o ecclesiastic_a government_n to_o belong_v to_o christ_n officer_n in_o the_o church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o believer_n or_o professor_n take_v from_o the_o name_n and_o denomination_n import_v power_n and_o authority_n of_o government_n give_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o scripture_n to_o the_o officer_n but_o never_o to_o the_o people_n then_o to_o they_o in_o contradistinction_n to_o the_o people_n and_o all_o that_o he_o have_v say_v as_o be_v it_o be_v but_o weak_a in_o itself_o as_o we_o trust_v we_o have_v make_v evident_a so_o he_o have_v therein_o pass_v by_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o argument_n have_v neglect_v sundry_a of_o these_o title_n and_o altogether_o miskenned_a the_o passage_n of_o scripture_n which_o by_o presbyterian_o use_v to_o be_v produce_v for_o they_o and_o be_v urge_v upon_o the_o point_n as_o contain_v much_o ground_n for_o their_o doctrine_n beside_o the_o name_n or_o title_n give_v therein_o to_o the_o officer_n i_o humble_o desire_v the_o reader_n &_o our_o author_n if_o he_o will_v be_v please_v to_o be_v at_o the_o pain_n to_o consider_v what_o m._n gillespy_n have_v to_o this_o purpose_n aaron_n rod_n book_n 2._o c._n 9_o wherein_o he_o prove_v that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o ecclesiastical_a government_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o church_n officer_n see_v there_o arg._n 1_o 2_o 3_o 10_o 11_o 19_o 20._o but_o now_o be_v these_o objection_n bring_v by_o the_o author_n and_o as_o slight_o propound_v as_o he_o may_v and_o i_o may_v say_v answer_v just_a so_o be_v these_o isay_n all_o the_o material_a argument_n thaâ—_n
of_o eldership_n and_o presbytery_n of_o more_o congregation_n consociate_v that_o they_o may_v lawful_o be_v and_o of_o diverse_a sort_n be_v confess_v but_o there_o be_v these_o point_n especial_o concern_v they_o of_o which_o there_o be_v controversy_n between_o we_o and_o our_o brethren_n section_n 4_o the_o 1._o be_v concern_v the_o nature_n of_o their_o power_n over_o the_o several_a congregation_n or_o church_n consociate_v in_o they_o our_o brethren_n of_o the_o independent_a way_n attribute_v no_o other_o power_n unto_o they_o but_o of_o counsel_n &_o persuasion_n to_o inform_v and_o hold_v forth_o unto_o the_o church_n what_o be_v command_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n &_o to_o exhort_v &_o persuade_v they_o to_o their_o duty_n to_o obedience_n of_o what_o they_o find_v command_v in_o the_o word_n but_o allow_v they_o no_o authority_n and_o jurisdictionall_a power_n to_o enjoin_v their_o determination_n from_o the_o word_n authoritative_o under_o pain_n of_o ecclesiastical_a 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key_n ch_n 6._o seem_v to_o attribute_v more_o power_n to_o a_o synod_n they_o have_v say_v he_o power_n not_o only_o to_o give_v light_n and_o counsel_n in_o matter_n of_o truth_n and_o practice_n but_o also_o to_o command_v and_o enjoin_v the_o thing_n to_o be_v believe_v and_o do_v the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o synodical_a letter_n imply_v no_o less_o act._n 15._o 27._o it_o be_v a_o act_n of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n to_o bind_v burden_n and_o this_o bind_a power_n arise_v not_o only_o material_o from_o the_o weight_n of_o the_o matter_n impose_v which_o be_v necessary_a necessitate_v praecepti_fw-la from_o the_o word_n but_o also_o formal_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o synod_n which_o be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n bind_v the_o more_o for_o the_o synod_n sake_n this_o in_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o word_n be_v a_o flat_a contradiction_n to_o what_o mr._n hooker_n say_v he_o say_v they_o have_v only_o a_o power_n of_o brotherly_a counsel_n mâ—_n cotton_n not_o 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etc._n etc._n pag._n 178._o guliel_n appoll_n considerate_a of_o certain_a controversy_n cap._n 6._o pag._n 94_o 95._o and_o pag._n 127._o spanhem_n epistol_n ad_fw-la dau._n buchan_n class_n 3._o arg._n 2._o huds_n vindicat._n of_o the_o essence_n and_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 156_o 157_o 158._o and_o pag._n 164_o 165._o mr._n rutherfurd_n due_a right_n cap._n 10._o pag._n 310._o &_o seq_fw-la section_n 8_o to_o what_o the_o author_n add_v that_o no_o where_n do_v we_o read_v in_o the_o gospel_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o relation_n to_o censure_v commit_v to_o classical_a presbytery_n answ_n 1._o if_o the_o meaning_n be_v not_o where_o in_o the_o gospel_n do_v we_o read_v this_o power_n commit_v by_o a_o formal_a precept_n to_o classical_a presbytery_n by_o name_n or_o specifical_o by_o itself_o it_o may_v be_v grant_v without_o prejudice_n to_o what_o we_o assert_v and_o i_o pray_v where_o will_v these_o author_n read_v in_o the_o gospel_n this_o power_n commit_v to_o the_o eldership_n 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and_o therefore_o have_v choose_v a_o name_n that_o may_v serve_v both_o and_o so_o displease_v neither_o but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o synod_n see_v clear_v by_o jus_n divin_n p._n 2._o c._n 14._o 2._o suppose_v it_o do_v not_o exercise_v a_o critical_a power_n or_o power_n of_o censure_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o it_o have_v not_o a_o power_n of_o censure_n to_o exercise_v on_o the_o contrary_a the_o dogmatic_a power_n of_o a_o synod_n be_v of_o another_o sort_n then_o the_o dogmatical_a power_n which_o be_v competent_a to_o a_o single_a pastor_n this_o be_v only_o concionall_a and_o a_o act_n of_o the_o power_n of_o order_n this_o be_v juridical_a and_o a_o act_n of_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o of_o the_o key_n of_o discipline_n it_o carry_v along_o a_o power_n of_o censure_n with_o it_o though_o this_o be_v not_o always_o put_v in_o actual_a exercise_n when_o the_o other_o be_v there_o may_v be_v and_o oft_o be_v need_n of_o a_o juridical_a determination_n of_o a_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d raise_v by_o the_o false_a teacher_n brand_a they_o with_o the_o black_a mark_n of_o liar_n subverter_n of_o soul_n and_o troubler_n of_o the_o church_n this_o be_v a_o degree_n of_o censure_n and_o a_o virtual_a admonition_n tend_v to_o further_a censure_n but_o actual_o to_o have_v proceed_v further_o to_o excommunication_n at_o first_o be_v not_o seasonable_a prudent_a nor_o needful_a 4._o if_o people_n and_o private_a brethren_n be_v in_o that_o synod_n as_o we_o deny_v not_o but_o they_o may_v be_v their_o interest_n in_o the_o determination_n and_o consultation_n of_o the_o synod_n be_v not_o by_o way_n of_o authoritative_a and_o definitive_a vote_n but_o at_o most_o consultative_a and_o by_o way_n of_o private_a consent_n and_o approbation_n as_o we_o clear_v before_o against_o mr._n locky_a 5._o that_o recommendation_n of_o obedience_n to_o the_o act_n of_o that_o synod_n from_o the_o goodness_n and_o benefit_n thereof_o express_v in_o the_o close_a of_o 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will_v have_v produce_v have_v they_o assay_v it_o shall_v have_v prove_v as_o little_a to_o their_o purpose_n section_n 12_o there_o be_v two_o main_a point_n whereof_o the_o independent_a government_n consist_v 1._o that_o the_o power_n of_o ecclesiastic_a jurisdiction_n be_v in_o and_o formal_o to_o be_v exercise_v by_o the_o community_n of_o professor_n if_o not_o whole_o and_o by_o themselves_o yet_o joint_o with_o the_o elder_n and_o officer_n they_o as_o well_o as_o the_o elder_n concur_v authoritative_o in_o all_o act_n of_o government_n and_o jurisdiction_n 2._o that_o there_o be_v not_o any_o large_a judicatory_n or_o assembly_n ecclesiastic_a than_o of_o a_o single_a congregation_n whether_o classical_a presbytery_n or_o synod_n juridical_a but_o that_o the_o judicatorie_a of_o every_o single_a congregation_n be_v the_o supreme_a ecclesiastic_a juridical_a court_n upon_o earth_n independent_a upon_o and_o without_o subordination_n to_o any_o large_a or_o superior_a 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office_n nor_o do_v we_o deny_v but_o the_o people_n may_v be_v present_a at_o the_o handle_n of_o matter_n of_o faith_n in_o assembly_n be_v hearer_n and_o witness_n of_o the_o whole_a proceed_n thereanent_a give_v their_o counsel_n and_o advice_n in_o consultation_n also_o testify_v their_o assent_n and_o approbation_n to_o the_o determination_n we_o grant_v also_o that_o excommunication_n and_o lose_v from_o excommunication_n of_o person_n be_v not_o perform_v without_o at_o least_o the_o tacit_n agreement_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n â—hey_n be_v to_o concur_v actiuè_fw-la and_o executiuè_fw-la to_o both_o and_o therefore_o when_o any_o person_n be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_a the_o ground_n and_o cause_n thereof_o be_v make_v know_v to_o the_o people_n and_o when_o person_n excommunicate_v be_v to_o be_v receive_v again_o into_o the_o church_n they_o be_v bring_v before_o the_o people_n to_o make_v their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d public_a confession_n before_o they_o as_o we_o do_v in_o our_o church_n now_o but_o none_o of_o these_o nor_o all_o of_o they_o amount_v to_o a_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a power_n of_o government_n but_o as_o for_o such_o act_n as_o belong_v direct_o to_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a government_n as_o ordination_n of_o minister_n judicial_a sentence_a person_n to_o be_v excommunicate_a or_o absolution_n from_o excommunication_n give_v of_o definitive_a sentence_n in_o public_a determination_n of_o controversy_n of_o faith_n or_o of_o matter_n pertain_v to_o order_n and_o rite_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n let_v our_o author_n produce_v any_o testimony_n or_o allow_v practice_n of_o the_o people_n formal_a influence_n and_o concurrence_n in_o these_o if_o they_o will_v say_v any_o thing_n from_o that_o antiquity_n for_o a_o ecclesiastic_a government_n proper_o democraticall_a either_o in_o whole_a or_o in_o part_n section_n 15_o hierome_n who_o be_v near_o these_o age_n and_o better_o acquaint_v with_o their_o way_n than_o these_o author_n tell_v we_o in_o the_o general_a in_o who_o hand_n the_o power_n of_o government_n be_v then_o in_o that_o remarkable_a and_o famous_a say_n of_o he_o on_o the_o epistle_n to_o tit._n c._n 1._o antequam_fw-la diaboli_fw-la instinctu_fw-la studia_fw-la in_o religione_fw-la fierent_fw-la &_o diceretur_fw-la in_o populo_fw-la ego_fw-la sum_fw-la pauli_n ego_fw-la apollo_n ego_fw-la vero_fw-la cephae_fw-la communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v what_o learned_a chamier_n say_v on_o this_o of_o hierome_n lib._n 10._o de_fw-la oecumen_fw-la pontifc_fw-la 5._o §_o 22._o answer_v to_o bellarmin_n he_o arg._n respondeo_fw-la ad_fw-la primum_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la aristocratia_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la totidem_fw-la syllabis_fw-la nominata_fw-la tamen_fw-la certò_fw-la significatam_fw-la his_fw-la verbis_fw-la communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o he_o add_v bonam_fw-la autem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la id_fw-la regiminis_fw-la formam_fw-la inde_fw-la sequitur_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dicat_fw-la hieronymus_n come_v in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la id_fw-la sit_fw-la optimum_fw-la quod_fw-la verissimum_fw-la id_fw-la autem_fw-la verissimum_fw-la quod_fw-la primum_fw-la dicit_fw-la etiam_fw-la hieron_n fuisse_fw-la ex_fw-la institutionis_fw-la dominicae_fw-la veritate_fw-la and_o mark_v in_o this_o same_o learned_a author_n who_o word_n i_o be_o now_o cite_v that_o the_o very_a thing_n he_o undertake_v to_o demonstrate_v in_o that_o c._n 5._o and_o some_o follow_v both_o from_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n be_v that_o the_o government_n as_o well_o of_o particular_a as_o of_o consociat_fw-la churches_n be_v pure_a aristocracy_n c._n 5._o §_o 1._o section_n 16_o more_o particular_o 1._o that_o ordination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o only_o be_v the_o authoritative_a act_n in_o the_o call_v of_o a_o minister_n and_o that_o which_o confer_v ministerial_o under_o christ_n a_o mininisteriall_a power_n be_v in_o these_o primitive_a time_n the_o proper_a and_o peculiar_a act_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o presbytery_n be_v so_o evident_a and_o clear_a to_o all_o that_o have_v read_v any_o thing_n of_o these_o time_n that_o it_o be_v waste_v of_o time_n and_o paper_n to_o produce_v testimony_n for_o it_o indeed_o we_o find_v in_o antiquity_n that_o after_o that_o once_o there_o begin_v a_o constant_a president_n to_o be_v set_v up_o in_o the_o presbytery_n with_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n which_o in_o scripture_n be_v common_a to_o all_o presbyter_n appropriate_a to_o he_o alone_o somewhat_o of_o the_o act_n of_o ordination_n begin_v also_o to_o be_v peculiar_a to_o he_o and_o as_o he_o advance_v in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d preeminency_n above_o presbyter_n so_o be_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n more_o and_o more_o defer_v to_o he_o or_o usurp_v by_o he_o alone_o and_o hence_o come_v that_o point_n of_o difference_n between_o a_o bishop_n and_o a_o presbyter_n of_o which_o i_o in_o his_o time_n quid_fw-la facit_fw-la exceptâ_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la episcopus_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la facit_fw-la presbyter_n but_o that_o ever_o the_o people_n have_v any_o formal_a concurrence_n in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a to_o antiquity_n section_n 17_o 2._o that_o the_o power_n and_o exercise_v of_o the_o key_n of_o discipline_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v sentence_v unto_o censure_n and_o absolution_n from_o censure_n also_o be_v only_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o college_n of_o presbyter_n in_o those_o time_n of_o the_o church_n be_v as_o evident_a to_o such_o as_o be_v any_o way_n acquaint_v in_o they_o origen_n hom._n 7._o in_o josuam_fw-la tertio_fw-la admonitum_fw-la resipiscere_fw-la nolentem_fw-la jubet_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la corpore_fw-la desecari_fw-la per_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la praesides_fw-la the_o centuriator_n cent._n 3._o c._n 7._o tell_v we_o that_o then_o jus_fw-la tractandi_fw-la de_fw-la excommunicandis_fw-la aut_fw-la recipiendis_fw-la lapsis_fw-la publicae_fw-la penes_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la seniores_fw-la erat_fw-la qui_fw-la ad_fw-la eam_fw-la rem_fw-la convenire_fw-la solebant_fw-la and_o they_o cite_v for_o this_o tertullia_n apologetic_n the_o order_n then_o observe_v in_o receive_v penitent_n that_o have_v offend_v by_o grievous_a scandalous_a sin_n be_v most_o clear_a for_o this_o they_o be_v first_o to_o compear_v before_o the_o bishop_n and_o his_o clergy_n i._n e._n the_o presbytery_n wherein_o the_o bishop_n then_o differ_v from_o other_o presbyter_n ordine_fw-la tantum_fw-la non_fw-la gradu_fw-la by_o they_o the_o penitent_n cause_v be_v judicial_o cognosce_v the_o manner_n of_o satisfaction_n prescribe_v and_o enjoin_v to_o they_o and_o have_v perform_v that_o and_o make_v their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d before_o the_o people_n they_o be_v actual_o absolve_v by_o the_o imposition_n of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n or_o the_o presbytery_n cyprian_n epistle_n be_v full_a of_o testimony_n to_o this_o purpose_n it_o be_v needless_a labour_n to_o insist_v in_o citation_n of_o they_o only_o i_o think_v it_o worth_a the_o pain_n to_o produce_v one_o passage_n whereby_o it_o may_v evident_o appear_v that_o the_o way_n of_o absolve_v and_o receive_v penitent_n be_v just_a as_o it_o be_v now_o in_o the_o presbyterian_a government_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n and_o substance_n it_o be_v in_o lib._n 3._o epist_n 11._o in_o pamel_n ord._n epist_n 46._o from_o cornelius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o cyprian_a concern_v the_o return_n of_o some_o confessor_n from_o the_o novatian_a schism_n to_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n there_o cornelius_n after_o he_o have_v relate_v how_o these_o confessor_n have_v express_v their_o desire_n of_o reconciliation_n to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o take_v with_o the_o fault_n lay_v to_o their_o charge_n in_o a_o private_a and_o extrajudiciall_a way_n he_o proceed_v thus_o omni_fw-la igitur_fw-la actu_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o perlato_fw-la placuit_fw-la contrahi_fw-la presbyterium_fw-la adfuerunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la episcopi_fw-la quinque_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o hodie_fw-la praesentes_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la ut_fw-la firmato_fw-la consilio_fw-la quid_fw-la circa_fw-la personam_fw-la eorum_fw-la observari_fw-la deberet_fw-la consensu_fw-la omnium_fw-la statueretur_fw-la et_fw-la ut_fw-la motum_fw-la omnium_fw-la &_o consilium_fw-la singulorum_fw-la dignosceres_fw-la etiam_fw-la sententias_fw-la nostras_fw-la placuit_fw-la in_o notitiam_fw-la vestri_fw-la perferri_fw-la quas_fw-la &_o subjectas_fw-la leges_fw-la his_o ita_fw-la gestis_fw-la in_o presbyterium_fw-la venerunt_fw-la vrbanus_n etc._n etc._n et_fw-la plerique_fw-la fratres_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la iis_fw-la adjunxerant_fw-la summis_fw-la precibus_fw-la desiderantes_fw-la ut_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la ante_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la gesta_fw-la in_fw-la oblivionem_fw-la cederent_fw-la nullaque_fw-la eorum_fw-la mentio_fw-la haberetur_fw-la quod_fw-la erat_fw-la consequens_fw-la omnis_fw-la hic_fw-la actus_fw-la populo_fw-la erat_fw-la insinuandus_fw-la ut_fw-la &_o ipsos_fw-la viderent_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la constitutos_fw-la have_v relate_v the_o people_n expression_n of_o their_o joy_n he_o set_v down_o the_o confession_n which_o the_o penitent_n make_v nos_fw-la errorem_fw-la nostrum_fw-la confitemur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o then_o add_v istâ_fw-la
eorum_fw-la professione_n non_fw-la moveremur_fw-la ut_fw-la quod_fw-la apud_fw-la potestatem_fw-la seculi_fw-la erant_fw-la confessi_fw-la in_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la constituti_fw-la comprobarent_fw-la quamobrem_fw-la maximum_fw-la prespyterum_fw-la jussimus_fw-la locum_fw-la suum_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la caeteros_fw-la cum_fw-la ingenti_fw-la populi_fw-la suffragio_fw-la recepimus_fw-la i_o need_v not_o comment_n upon_o the_o place_n it_o speak_v plain_a enough_o of_o itself_o what_o we_o be_v plead_v for_o section_n 18_o 3._o that_o the_o give_v of_o definitive_a sentence_n in_o question_n of_o faith_n or_o make_v ecclesiastic_a constitution_n and_o canon_n concern_v order_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n in_o these_o age_n do_v ordinary_o pertain_v only_o to_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n bishop_n and_o elder_n &_o that_o though_o other_o private_a christian_n may_v be_v present_a hear_v and_o consult_v that_o yet_o these_o only_o do_v sit_v and_o vote_n as_o ordinary_a judge_n be_v undenyablie_o clear_a by_o the_o history_n of_o all_o counsel_n that_o be_v then_o hold_v in_o the_o church_n i_o say_v ordinary_a for_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o sometime_o such_o as_o be_v not_o in_o any_o such_o ministerial_a office_n do_v also_o sit_v and_o concur_v in_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n but_o these_o be_v not_o any_o whatsoever_o private_a christian_n promiscuous_o but_o eminent_a learned_a and_o pious_a man_n and_o have_v authority_n and_o call_v thereunto_o either_o by_o antecedent_n agreement_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v to_o meet_v in_o the_o assembly_n or_o by_o a_o subsequent_a assume_v and_o call_v of_o they_o by_o the_o assembly_n itself_o which_o be_v a_o especial_a vocation_n unto_o the_o ministerial_a office_n ad_fw-la tempus_fw-la and_o in_o relation_n to_o these_o particular_a act_n which_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o synod_n and_o in_o so_o far_o do_v exempt_v they_o è_fw-mi sort_n out_o of_o the_o state_n of_o mere_a private_a christian_n but_o that_o such_o as_o be_v mere_a private_a christian_n i._n e._n be_v neither_o ordinary_a minister_n nor_o have_v a_o special_a calling_n extra_fw-la ordinem_fw-la concur_v to_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n in_o assembly_n be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a see_v what_o junius_n a_o man_n well_o verse_v in_o antiquity_n say_v to_o bellarm_n cont._n 3._o lib._n 2._o c._n 25._o n._n 2._o speak_v in_o relation_n to_o ancient_a counsel_n eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la conciliis_fw-la intersunt_fw-la varia_fw-la esse_fw-la genera_fw-la esse_fw-la audientes_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o doctrina_fw-la &_o ordine_fw-la ex_fw-la auditione_n informantur_fw-la esse_fw-la doctos_fw-la qui_fw-la ad_fw-la consultationem_fw-la adhibentur_fw-la esse_fw-la denique_fw-la episcopos_fw-la &_o presbyteros_fw-la qui_fw-la decidunt_fw-la res_fw-la ferendis_fw-la sententiis_fw-la and_o again_o cont._n 4._o lib._n 1._o c._n 15._o n._n 15._o qui_fw-la sine_fw-la authoritate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la adjunt_fw-la eorum_fw-la alii_fw-la etiam_fw-la consultationibus_fw-la adhiberi_fw-la possunt_fw-la ut_fw-la docti_fw-la praetertim_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la sed_fw-la dicere_fw-la sententiam_fw-la definitivam_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la section_n 19_o i_o hear_v of_o two_o main_a objection_n which_o use_v to_o be_v be_v make_v against_o what_o i_o have_v be_v plead_v for_o and_o for_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o people_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n 1._o that_o be_v allege_v of_o the_o magdeburg_n cent._n 2._o c._n 7._o p._n 134._o coeterum_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la probatos_fw-la autores_fw-la huius_fw-la saeculi_fw-la perspiciat_fw-la videbit_fw-la formam_fw-la gubernationis_fw-la propemodum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d similem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la to_o which_o may_v be_v add_v that_o of_o learned_a whitak_n cont._n 4._o q._n 1._o c._n 1._o sic_fw-la partim_fw-la aristocraticum_fw-la partim_fw-la democraticum_fw-la partim_fw-la etiam_fw-la monarchicum_fw-la n._n si_fw-la velimus_fw-la christum_fw-la ipsum_fw-la respicere_fw-la as_o he_o say_v a_o little_a before_o est_fw-la semperque_fw-la fuit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la regimen_fw-la answ_n that_o these_o author_n call_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n either_o much_o like_a unto_o a_o democraticall_a or_o in_o part_n democraticall_a their_o meaning_n and_o intention_n be_v not_o that_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o private_a professor_n do_v formal_o concur_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o such_o act_n as_o be_v formal_o authoritative_a and_o judicial_a act_n of_o government_n which_o be_v requisite_a to_o make_v the_o government_n formal_o and_o proper_o democraticall_a either_o in_o whole_a or_o in_o part_n but_o only_a because_o of_o such_o thing_n competent_a to_o they_o as_o we_o have_v mention_v §_o 14._o which_o be_v no_o authoritative_a or_o judicial_a act_n of_o government_n and_o first_o for_o the_o magdeburg_n see_v how_o they_o explicate_v that_o which_o they_o say_v in_o the_o next_o follow_v word_n singulae_fw-la enim_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la parem_fw-la habebant_fw-la potestatem_fw-la verbum_fw-la dei_fw-la pure_a docendi_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la administrandi_fw-la absolvendi_fw-la &_o excommunicandi_fw-la haereticos_fw-la &_o sceleratos_fw-la &_o ceremonias_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n acceptas_fw-la exercendi_fw-la aut_fw-la etiam_fw-la pro_fw-la ratione_fw-la aedificationis_fw-la novas_fw-la condendi_fw-la ministros_fw-la eligendi_fw-la vocandi_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la &_o justissimas_fw-la ob_fw-la causas_fw-la iterum_fw-la deponendi_fw-la in_o these_o word_n there_o be_v two_o thing_n express_o observable_a to_o our_o purpose_n 1._o that_o they_o in_o explicate_v the_o democracy_n they_o speak_v of_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o power_n of_o single_a person_n as_o to_o matter_n of_o government_n but_o of_o single_a or_o particular_a church_n singulae_fw-la enim_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la say_v they_o parem_fw-la habebant_fw-la potestatem_fw-la etc._n etc._n whereby_o it_o may_v easy_o and_o evident_o appear_v that_o while_o they_o say_v that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v much_o like_o a_o democracy_n they_o mean_v this_o not_o to_o take_v away_o the_o government_n out_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o christ_n officer_n of_o the_o church_n to_o put_v it_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o whole_a people_n at_o least_o to_o join_v these_o with_o they_o in_o the_o formal_a and_o proper_a act_n of_o it_o but_o in_o opposition_n to_o that_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a superiority_n of_o any_o one_o particular_a chutch_n over_o other_o particular_a church_n as_o the_o prelatical_a man_n plead_v for_o authoritative_a superiority_n in_o their_o cathedral_n church_n over_o all_o particular_a church_n in_o the_o diaecese_n and_o the_o papalin_n for_o a_o universal_a superiority_n and_o supremacy_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n over_o all_o other_o church_n in_o the_o world_n 2._o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o among_o other_o thing_n which_o they_o reckon_v up_o as_o part_n of_o the_o church_n government_n which_o they_o say_v be_v much_o like_a democracie_n they_o put_v in_o the_o preach_a of_o the_o word_n and_o admistration_n of_o sacrament_n which_o themselves_o before_o say_v and_o no_o man_n of_o sound_a judgement_n will_v deny_v be_v act_n proper_a to_o the_o call_v minister_n of_o christ_n whence_o also_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o they_o mean_v not_o a_o democracie_n proper_o so_o call_v which_o put_v the_o formal_a power_n and_o exercise_v of_o government_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o all_o and_o every_o one_o of_o the_o multitude_n which_o the_o independent_a brethren_n plead_v for_o and_o indeed_o will_v any_o man_n consider_v what_o the_o particular_a church_n be_v to_o which_o these_o centuriator_n attribute_v private_a synod_n cent._n 2._o c._n 7._o pag._n 130._o wherein_o it_o may_v possible_o be_v conceive_v that_o democracie_n can_v have_v place_n especial_o and_o it_o may_v easy_o be_v perceive_v that_o they_o be_v such_o as_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o people_n for_o who_o right_a to_o concur_v in_o juridical_a act_n the_o independent_a brethren_n plead_v can_v not_o possible_o meet_v together_o in_o one_o or_o be_v present_a at_o once_o in_o their_o synod_n when_o assemble_v for_o exercise_n of_o jurisdiction_n for_o most_o part_n at_o least_o of_o they_o which_o they_o call_v particular_a church_n be_v of_o such_o amplitude_n and_o so_o numerous_a that_o such_o a_o assemble_v of_o their_o whole_a body_n be_v not_o possible_a and_o in_o truth_n they_o be_v diaecesan_n or_o presbyterial_a church_n and_o not_o such_o single_a congregation_n as_o the_o question_n between_o we_o and_o the_o independent_a brethren_n concern_v for_o mark_v it_o in_o that_o very_a place_n last_o cite_v speak_v of_o these_o particular_a church_n and_o their_o private_a synod_n they_o bring_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o a_o instance_n and_o who_o know_v not_o how_o numerous_a the_o christian_n in_o rome_n be_v become_v ere_o that_o time_n add_v to_o these_o thing_n that_o these_o same_o author_n cent._n 3._o c._n 7._o p._n 151._o say_v express_o that_o jus_o tractandi_fw-la de_fw-la excommunicandis_fw-la aut_fw-la recipiendis_fw-la publicae_fw-la lapsis_fw-la penes_fw-la seniores_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la erat_fw-la and_o cite_v tertul._n apolog._n for_o it_o read_v also_o c._n 6._o ejusdem_fw-la cent._n pag._n 129_o l._n 30._o
de_fw-la ritibus_fw-la circa_fw-la clave_n and_o you_o will_v find_v that_o the_o judicial_a power_n of_o discipline_n be_v not_o common_a to_o the_o people_n but_o proper_a to_o the_o minister_n only_o some_o interest_n therein_o be_v for_o honour_n sake_n give_v to_o martyr_n 2_o as_o to_o that_o cite_v from_o whittaker_n that_o learned_a theologue_n himself_o in_o the_o word_n immediate_o go_v before_o these_o cite_v clear_v in_o what_o respect_n it_o be_v that_o he_o say_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v always_o in_o part_n democraticall_a when_o he_o say_v si_fw-mi totum_fw-la corpus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la n._n volumus_fw-la respicere_fw-la quatenus_fw-la in_fw-la electione_n episcoporum_fw-la &_o presbyterorum_fw-la suffragia_fw-la serebat_fw-la ita_fw-la tamen_fw-la â—t_z 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d semper_fw-la à _fw-la presbyteris_fw-la servaretur_fw-la democraticum_fw-la so_o then_o he_o call_v it_o partly_o democraticall_a in_o this_o respect_n that_o the_o people_n have_v vote_n in_o the_o election_n of_o their_o minister_n which_o we_o grant_v the_o people_n ought_v to_o have_v and_o if_o any_o will_n in_o this_o respect_n call_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n in_o part_n democraticall_a we_o shall_v not_o contend_v about_o the_o name_n only_o we_o will_v say_v that_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n be_v no_o more_o but_o the_o nomination_n or_o designation_n of_o a_o person_n to_o the_o ministry_n be_v no_o proper_a or_o formal_a act_n of_o authoritative_a power_n the_o other_o objection_n make_v use_v of_o be_v from_o cyprian_n lib._n 1._o epist_n 1â—_n in_o pamel_n ord._n epist_n 6._o ad_fw-la id_fw-la verò_fw-la quod_fw-la scripserunt_fw-la mihi_fw-la donatus_n &_o fortunatus_n novatus_n &_o curdius_n solus_fw-la rescribere_fw-la nihil_fw-la potuiâ—_n quando_fw-la à _fw-la primordio_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la mei_fw-la statuerim_fw-la nihil_fw-la sine_fw-la consilio_fw-la vestro_fw-la &_o sine_fw-la consensu_fw-la plebis_fw-la sententiâ_fw-la plebis_fw-la pamâ—meae_n privatâ_fw-la sententiâ_fw-la meâ_fw-la privatim_fw-la sententiâ_fw-la gerere_fw-la answ_n how_o far_o that_o grave_n pious_a and_o zealous_a ancient_n be_v from_o the_o independent_a way_n of_o church_n government_n among_o many_o place_n in_o his_o write_n that_o one_o famous_a passage_n in_o lib._n 1._o de_fw-la unitate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la do_v abundant_o demonstrate_v and_o clear_v as_o with_o sunshine_n loquor_fw-la dominus_fw-la ad_fw-la petrum_fw-la ego_fw-la dico_fw-la tibi_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o these_o word_n hanc_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la unitatem_fw-la and_o again_o a_o little_a after_o from_o these_o word_n quam_fw-la unitatem_fw-la firmiter_fw-la tenere_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o these_o quomodo_fw-la solis_fw-la multi_fw-la radii_fw-la this_o place_n as_o it_o hew_v down_o the_o antichristian_a papal_a monarchy_n so_o it_o be_v a_o clear_a testimony_n against_o popular_a and_o supreme_a independent_a government_n in_o a_o single_a congregation_n while_o as_o therein_o the_o author_n so_o clear_o assert_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n to_o have_v be_v give_v by_o christ_n and_o put_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o a_o equal_a society_n of_o honour_n and_o power_n 2._o that_o there_o be_v one_o catholic_n visible_a church_n and_o that_o this_o catholic_n church_n be_v but_o one_o charge_n vnus_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la cujus_fw-la à _fw-la singulis_fw-la in_o solidum_fw-la pars_fw-la tenetur_fw-la and_o that_o unitatem_fw-la hanc_fw-la firmiter_fw-la tenere_fw-la &_o vindicare_fw-la debent_fw-la episcopi_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la president_n ut_fw-la episcopatum_fw-la quoque_fw-la ipsum_fw-la unum_fw-la etque_fw-la indivisum_fw-la probent_fw-la then_o which_o nothing_o can_v be_v say_v more_o forcible_o against_o that_o crumble_a of_o the_o church_n into_o so_o many_o single_a congregation_n independent_a in_o themselves_o and_o without_o all_o union_n and_o conjunction_n in_o point_n of_o government_n but_o to_o the_o place_n in_o hand_n cite_v from_o epist_n 10._o lib._n 3._o gulartius_fw-la and_o junius_n note_n on_o the_o place_n clear_v the_o matter_n well_o for_o we_o nempe_fw-la agebatur_fw-la de_fw-la aliqua_fw-la electione_n quam_fw-la cypriano_n quidam_fw-la è_fw-la presbyterio_n suggesseraâ—_n eo_fw-la quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ex_fw-la persecutionibus_fw-la parte_fw-la svi_fw-la presbyterii_fw-la destituta_fw-la esset_fw-la respondet_fw-la nihil_fw-la se_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la causa_fw-la unquam_fw-la facere_fw-la voluisse_fw-la quin_fw-la &_o presbyterii_fw-la consilium_fw-la &_o plebis_fw-la consensum_fw-la adhiberet_fw-la but_o what_o be_v the_o place_n and_o part_n of_o the_o people_n in_o election_n we_o controvert_v not_o nay_o we_o say_v with_o the_o same_o ancient_n lib._n 1._o epist_n 4._o quando_fw-la ipsa_fw-la plebs_fw-la maxim_n habeat_fw-la potestatem_fw-la vel_fw-la eligendi_fw-la dignos_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la vel_fw-la indignos_fw-la recusandi_fw-la and_o as_o he_o say_v afterward_o eligendus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la immaculatus_fw-la &_o integer_fw-la praesente_fw-la plebe_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o show_v i_o a_o place_n in_o that_o writer_n ascribe_v to_o the_o people_n formal_a concurrence_n with_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n in_o any_o juridical_a authoritative_a act_n of_o government_n as_o in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n sentence_v person_n to_o censure_n to_o excommunication_n and_o absolve_v from_o excommunication_n judicial_a and_o definitive_a determination_n of_o controversy_n in_o religion_n but_o now_o this_o book_n have_v grow_v to_o bigness_n beyond_o my_o intention_n at_o first_o i_o will_v insist_v no_o further_o but_o leave_v these_o brethren_n i_o have_v be_v last_o speak_v with_o my_o hearty_a desire_n to_o god_n on_o their_o behalf_n that_o he_o will_v show_v they_o mercy_n to_o remember_v from_o whence_o they_o have_v fall_v repent_v and_o do_v their_o first_o work_n finis_fw-la