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A88693 Suspension reviewed, stated, cleered and setled upon plain scripture-proof. Agreeable to the former and late constitutions of the Protestant Church of England and other reformed churches. Wherein (defending a private sheet occasionally written by the author upon this subject, against a publique pretended refutation of the same, by Mr W. in his book, entituled, Suspension discussed.) Many important points are handled; sundry whereof are shortly mentioned in the following page. Together with a discourse concering private baptisme, inserted in the epistle dedicatory. / By Samuel Langley, R.S. in the county palatine of Chester. Langley, Samuel, d. 1694. 1658 (1658) Wing L405; Thomason E1823_2; ESTC R209804 201,826 263

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i_o prove_v and_o each_o false_a way_n detest_v chap._n xvii_o §._o 1._o the_o consequence_n in_o my_o argumentation_n at_o numb_a 41._o if_o word_n rejecter_n of_o christianity_n though_o baptize_v adult_n and_o not_o full_o excommunicate_v may_v be_v debar_v the_o sacrament_n than_o also_o some_o such_o deed-rejecters_a of_o christianity_n may_v be_v debar_v my_o paper_n prove_v at_o numb_a 42._o as_o be_v relate_v by_o mr._n w._n p._n 98_o 99_o which_o we_o shall_v have_v occasion_n anon_o to_o repeat_v i_o shall_v now_o gather_v up_o the_o sum_n of_o what_o mr._n w._n answer_v for_o the_o enervate_a thereof_o and_o then_o have_v compare_v my_o argumentation_n with_o the_o pretend_a solution_n he_o return_v thereunto_o i_o shall_v make_v my_o reply_n to_o they_o several_o and_o then_o add_v more_o proof_n for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o my_o consequence_n aforesaid_a 1._o
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deed-rejecters_a of_o christ_n sampsons_n new_a withe_n will_v not_o tie_v these_o together_o this_o be_v to_o dispute_v at_o a_o low_a rate_n indeed_o §._o 4._o 3._o to_o his_o three_o i_o say_v 1._o our_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o open_a scandalous_a and_o presumptuous_a offender_n in_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v punish_v by_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n i_o wonder_v he_o have_v the_o face_n to_o say_v it_o be_v and_o tell_v the_o reader_n so_o who_o have_v the_o question_n state_v before_o he_o otherwise_o but_o whether_o any_o of_o these_o may_v be_v debar_v the_o sacrament_n though_o not_o full_o excommunicate_v therefore_o mr._n w._n his_o debate_n here_o be_v not_o only_o impertinent_a to_o the_o present_a argumentation_n he_o pretend_v to_o answer_v to_o but_o also_o to_o the_o whole_a controversy_n in_o hand_n 2._o his_o odious_a insinuation_n of_o every_o parish_n priest_n after_o his_o own_o humour_n use_v partiality_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o 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w._n have_v be_v their_o prompter_n have_v evade_v the_o apostle_n objurgation_n for_o neglect_n of_o discipline_v he_o and_o have_v say_v it_o be_v not_o fit_a for_o we_o who_o live_v with_o he_o to_o censure_v he_o some_o body_n else_o more_o remote_a who_o may_v be_v presume_v more_o impartial_a shall_v have_v take_v he_o in_o hand_n and_o belike_o the_o same_o reason_n will_v as_o well_o persuade_v justice_n of_o peace_n that_o it_o be_v not_o fit_a for_o they_o to_o take_v cognizance_n of_o offence_n among_o their_o neighbour_n they_o be_v fit_a to_o minister_v justice_n to_o those_o who_o be_v remote_a from_o they_o not_o to_o they_o who_o cohabite_v with_o they_o in_o the_o same_o hundred_o or_o parish_n and_o yet_o though_o mr._n w._n talk_v thus_o considerate_o as_o he_o say_v himself_o p._n 103._o yet_o a_o while_n ago_o he_o seem_v to_o have_v a_o better_a mind_n to_o exercise_v discipline_n among_o his_o neighbour_n if_o the_o state_n will_v enough_o assist_v he_o therein_o for_o say_v he_o p._n 90._o we_o have_v ordinary_a case_n enough_o in_o be_v for_o the_o full_a exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n have_v we_o power_n from_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n to_o convent_n offender_n before_o we_o authoritative_o and_o to_o inflict_v punishment_n upon_o they_o after_o their_o legal_a conviction_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o their_o crime_n and_o shall_v not_o rather_o be_v a_o ludibrium_fw-la to_o bold_a offender_n than_o any_o way_n reform_v they_o to_o the_o former_a part_n whereof_o i_o answer_v do_v he_o never_o see_v the_o ordinance_n of_o lord_n and_o commons_o of_o march_n 29_o 1648._o entitle_v the_o form_n of_o church_n government_n to_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o ireland_n agree_v upon_o by_o the_o lord_n and_o commons_o assemble_v in_o parliament_n after_o advice_n have_v with_o the_o assembly_n of_o divine_n be_v that_o but_o a_o toleration_n or_o be_v it_o ever_o repeal_v but_o some_o minister_n and_o other_o pretend_v ignorance_n of_o such_o a_o ordinance_n and_o wonder_v when_o it_o be_v show_v they_o and_o well_o they_o may_v that_o they_o shall_v no_o more_o regard_v the_o affair_n of_o the_o church_n other_o have_v pretend_v it_o be_v but_o a_o ordinance_n and_o therefore_o not_o valid_a after_o the_o dissolution_n of_o the_o parliament_n who_o make_v it_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n have_v sue_v for_o their_o tithe_n upon_o a_o ordinance_n build_v upon_o the_o same_o authority_n to_o the_o latter_a part_n i_o return_v cyprian_n answer_v epist._n 55._o ad_fw-la cornelium_n quod_fw-la si_fw-la ita_fw-la res_fw-la est_fw-la frater_fw-la charissime_fw-la ut_fw-la nequissimorum_fw-la timeatur_fw-la audacia_fw-la &_o quod_fw-la mali_fw-la jure_fw-la atque_fw-la aequitate_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la temeritate_fw-la ac_fw-la desperatione_n perficiant_fw-la actum_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la vigore_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr ecclesiae_fw-la gubernandae_fw-la sublimi_fw-la ac_fw-la divinâ_fw-la potestate_fw-la nec_fw-la christiani_n ultrâ_fw-la aut_fw-la durare_fw-la aut_fw-la esse_fw-la jam_fw-la possumus_fw-la si_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la ventum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la perditorum_fw-la minas_fw-la atque_fw-la infidias_fw-la pertimescamus_fw-la and_o after_o non_fw-la id_fw-la circo_fw-la frater_fw-la charissime_fw-la relinquenda_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la disciplina_fw-la aut_fw-la sacerdotalis_fw-la solvenda_fw-la censura_fw-la quoniam_fw-la convitijs_fw-la infestamu●_n aut_fw-la terroribus_fw-la quatimur_fw-la etc._n etc._n §._o 5._o to_o his_o four_o i_o answer_v it_o be_v most_o of_o it_o answer_v in_o what_o be_v late_o mention_v whereby_o it_o appear_v if_o minister_n be_v not_o the_o great_a hinderer_n of_o church_n order_n they_o may_v see_v that_o presbyterated_a church_n have_v power_n from_o the_o state_n authoritative_o to_o send_v for_o offender_n yea_o to_o give_v oath_n if_o need_v require_v but_o as_o long_o as_o the_o magistrate_n do_v not_o compel_v they_o to_o do_v their_o duty_n herein_o by_o deprive_v they_o of_o their_o maintenance_n for_o neglect_v hereof_o as_o well_o as_o for_o total_a neglect_n of_o preach_v they_o can_v see_v sufficient_a authority_n for_o their_o act_n herein_o that_o question_n mr._n w._n here_o propound_v whether_o parochial_a suspension_n with_o classical_a power_n in_o be_v by_o toleration_n civil_a be_v a_o universal_a remedy_n against_o all_o the_o evil_n that_o belong_v to_o ecclesiastical_a cognizance_n lanswer_v negative_o who_o say_v it_o be_v but_o do_v mr._n w._n thence_o evince_v the_o consequence_n of_o my_o fore-recited_a argument_n to_o be_v invalid_a good_a reader_n respice_fw-la titulum_fw-la look_v to_o what_o mr_n w._n be_v answer_v to_o all_o along_o and_o then_o judge_v whether_o it_o be_v handsome_a he_o of_o many_o shall_v have_v tell_v the_o world_n how_o he_o fear_v my_o brain_n be_v almost_o mar_v as_o he_o do_v p._n 89._o i_o be_o behold_v to_o he_o for_o his_o care_n of_o i_o but_o i_o can_v desire_v he_o shall_v be_v for_n