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A61705 Some remarks upon a late pamphlet, entituled, An answer to the Scots Presbyterian eloquence wherein the innocency of the Episcopal clergy is vindicated, and the constitution and government of our Church of Scotland defended, against the lies and calumnies of the Presbyterian pamphleters. Strachan, William.; Ridpath, George, d. 1726. Answer to the Scots Presbyterian eloquence. 1694 (1694) Wing S5776; ESTC R1954 92,648 108

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