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A53956 The good old way, or, A discourse offer'd to all true-hearted Protestants concerning the ancient way of the Church and the conformity of the Church of England thereunto, as to its government, manner of worship, rites, and customs / by Edward Pelling. Pelling, Edward, d. 1718. 1680 (1680) Wing P1082; ESTC R24452 117,268 146

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