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A42771 A treatise of miscellany questions wherein many usefull questions and cases of conscience are discussed and resolved ... / by Mr. George Gillespie ... ; published by Mr. Patrik Gillespie ... Gillespie, George, 1613-1648.; Gillespie, Patrick, 1617-1675. 1649 (1649) Wing G761; ESTC R8829 216,733 306

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26._o the_o apostle_n paul_n send_v epaphroditus_n and_o resolve_v to_o send_v timothy_n to_o the_o church_n of_o the_o philippian_n phil_n 2._o 25._o 28._o these_o be_v example_n of_o extraordinary_a mission_n such_o i_o mean_v as_o cease_v with_o that_o age_n none_o be_v now_o immediate_o send_v by_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n but_o there_o be_v other_o example_n of_o a_o mission_n or_o call_v to_o somewhat_o of_o the_o proper_a work_n of_o evangelist_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v restrict_v to_o that_o age_n only_o for_o they_o who_o be_v agent_n and_o do_v travel_n and_o negotiate_v in_o the_o great_a and_o special_a affair_n of_o the_o church_n have_v a_o special_a delegation_n and_o orderly_o call_v thereunto_o so_o i_o understand_v that_o of_o the_o messenger_n of_o the_o church_n 2_o cor_fw-la 8._o 23._o and_o epaphroditus_n be_v send_v from_o the_o church_n of_o philippian_n to_o paul_n be_v call_v there_o apostle_n or_o messenger_n phil_n 2._o 25._o so_o judas_n and_o silas_n who_o go_v out_o for_o the_o setlement_n of_o the_o distract_a church_n have_v a_o special_a commission_n and_o delegation_n thereunto_o from_o the_o synod_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n it_o be_v therefore_o most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o primitive_a pattern_n that_o where_o synod_n or_o at_o least_o class_n may_v be_v have_v and_o be_v not_o by_o persecution_n scatter_v or_o hinder_v to_o meet_v such_o as_o undertake_v either_o to_o go_v &_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o infidel_n papist_n turk_n or_o the_o like_a or_o go_v about_o any_o negotiation_n abroad_o in_o any_o common_a bussine_n of_o the_o church_n ought_v to_o be_v approve_v and_o authorize_v by_o a_o national_a synod_n or_o when_o that_o can_v be_v have_v &_o if_o there_o be_v withal_o great_a danger_n in_o the_o delay_n by_o a_o provincial_a synod_n or_o at_o least_o where_o this_o can_v he_o have_v by_o a_o classis_fw-la chap._n viii_o that_o the_o primitive_a apostolical_a pattern_n hold_v forth_o unto_o we_o for_o our_o imitation_n a_o presbytery_n i_o e._n a_o assembly_n of_o elder_n have_v power_n of_o ordination_n with_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n this_o i_o gather_v from_o 1._o tim_n 4._o 14._o neglect_n not_o the_o gift_n that_o be_v in_o thou_o which_o be_v give_v thou_o by_o pprophecy_n with_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbytery_n i_o have_v already_o evince_v from_o this_o text_n the_o necessity_n of_o ordination_n let_v we_o now_o see_v whether_o it_o do_v not_o also_o show_v we_o the_o right_a hand_n unto_o which_o christ_n have_v commit_v this_o power_n it_o be_v a_o text_n most_o miserable_o darken_v and_o obscure_v by_o controversall_a gloss_n put_v upon_o it_o by_o popish_a and_o prelatical_a writer_n some_o will_v have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d here_o to_o be_v a_o company_n of_o bishop_n who_o be_v both_o elder_n and_o more_o than_o elder_n as_o they_o hold_v this_o interpretation_n have_v so_o little_a probability_n of_o reason_n to_o strengthen_v it_o that_o it_o be_v abandon_v by_o some_o of_o the_o able_a friend_n of_o episcopacy_n camero_n praelect_a in_o mat_n 18._o 17._o dr._n forbesse_n irenic_n lib._n 2._o cap_n 11._o pag_n 161._o and_o why_o shall_v we_o understand_v by_o presbytery_n a_o company_n of_o bishop_n when_o it_o be_v yield_v even_o by_o writer_n of_o that_o side_n that_o in_o these_o city_n where_o the_o apostle_n plant_v the_o gospel_n there_o be_v collegium_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la a_o college_n or_o company_n of_o presbyter_n so_o mr._n thorndike_n of_o the_o government_n of_o church_n cap._n 3._o the_o author_n of_o the_o history_n of_o episcopacy_n part_n 2._o pag_n 28._o etc._n etc._n both_o of_o they_o in_o this_o follow_a hooker_n it_o be_v also_o acknowledge_v by_o they_o that_o this_o college_n of_o presbyter_n do_v together_o with_o the_o apostle_n lay_v on_o hand_n in_o ordination_n thereby_o contribute_v their_o blessing_n and_o assist_v with_o their_o prayer_n whence_o as_o be_v allege_v come_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o presbyter_n their_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n in_o the_o ordination_n together_o with_o the_o bishop_n conc_fw-fr carthag_n 4._o can_n 3._o so_o that_o even_o themselves_o say_v as_o much_o as_o may_v make_v we_o understand_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o this_o text_n concessus_n presbyterorum_fw-la as_o camero_n call_v it_o the_o footstep_n of_o ordination_n by_o presbytery_n may_v be_v see_v not_o only_o in_o that_o canon_n of_o carthage_n but_o in_o the_o canon_n law_n itself_o which_o appoint_v the_o same_o thing_n dist_n 23._o cap_n 8._o both_o ambrose_n in_o ephes_n 4._o and_o augustine_n in_o quaest_n ex_fw-la utroque_fw-la test_n 4._o 101._o bear_n witness_v that_o presbyter_n do_v ordain_v in_o egypt_n when_o a_o bishop_n be_v not_o present_a dr._n forbesse_n irenie_n lib_n 2._o pag._n 177._o cit_v
all_o the_o communicant_n both_o poor_a and_o rich_a come_v to_o the_o table_n chap._n xix_o that_o there_o be_v among_o the_o jew_n a_o jurisdiction_n and_o government_n ecclesiastical_a distinct_a from_o the_o civil_a first_o they_o have_v elder_n who_o be_v spiritual_a or_o ecclesiastical_a not_o civil_a ruler_n whence_o it_o be_v that_o salmasius_n de_fw-fr primatu_fw-la papae_fw-la pag_n 3._o and_o long_o before_o ambrose_n in_o 1_o tim_n 5._o do_v parallel_v the_o jewish_a elder_n not_o to_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n but_o to_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n i_o do_v not_o say_v that_o they_o have_v no_o elder_n who_o be_v civil_a magistrate_n but_o they_o have_v some_o elder_n who_o be_v church_n governor_n or_o have_v a_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n which_o i_o prove_v 1._o by_o the_o argument_n bring_v before_o book_n 1_o chap_n 3._o pag_n 26._o 27._o 2._o the_o jew_n when_o they_o have_v lose_v their_o state_n power_n and_o civil_a government_n have_v still_o under_o the_o roman_a emperor_n their_o presbyteri_fw-la and_o archisynagogi_fw-la whereof_o mr._n selden_n in_o eutych_n pag_n 15._o 16._o bring_v clear_a instance_n under_o arcadius_n and_o honorius_n now_o the_o roman_a emperor_n do_v not_o permit_v to_o the_o jew_n their_o own_o civil_a government_n but_o only_o a_o autonomy_n in_o religion_n so_o ibid._n pag_n 34._o he_o show_v we_o that_o the_o king_n of_o england_n have_v permit_v to_o the_o jew_n in_o england_n their_o presbyteratus_n which_o he_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o half_o yield_v to_o have_v be_v the_o same_o with_o their_o sacerdotium_fw-la 3._o although_o mr._n selden_n comment_n in_o eutych_n orig_n pag._n 17._o etc._n etc._n to_o 34._o and_o in_o his_o vxor_fw-la ebraica_n lib._n 1._o chap._n 15._o hold_v that_o the_o jewish_a elder_n or_o presbyter_n be_v such_o as_o be_v create_v by_o impositione_n of_o hand_n receive_v thereby_o a_o judicial_a faculty_n or_o degree_n so_o that_o thence_o forth_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o membership_n in_o the_o sanhedrim_n either_o of_o 23._o or_o 71._o and_o be_v fit_a to_o preside_v in_o judge_v of_o civil_a cause_n and_o so_o endeavour_v to_o show_v that_o it_o be_v a_o civil_a not_o a_o sacred_a or_o ecclesiastical_a dignity_n and_o preferment_n yet_o he_o furnish_v i_o with_o some_o considerable_a argument_n to_o confirm_v my_o opinion_n beside_o that_o which_o be_v last_o mention_v as_o 1._o he_o tell_v we_o in_o eutych_n pag._n 16._o that_o nomina_fw-la officiorum_fw-la sacrorum_fw-la ut_fw-la patriarcha_fw-la pr●…byter_n apostolus_fw-la diaconus_fw-la primus_fw-la et_fw-la episcopus_fw-la in_fw-la christianismum_fw-la ex_fw-la judaismi_fw-la veteris_fw-la usu_fw-la etc._n etc._n manarunt_fw-la but_o if_o the_o jewish_a elder_n be_v not_o promote_v to_o a_o sacred_a but_o to_o a_o civil_a jurisdiction_n that_o name_n shall_v have_v be_v transfer_v to_o magistrate_n judge_n parliament_z man_n rather_o than_o to_o church_n officer_n 2._o he_o tell_v of_o a_o divide_a distinct_a bound_v &_o particular_a ordniation_n of_o the_o jewish_a elder_n some_o of_o they_o be_v ordain_v to_o a_o faculty_n or_o power_n of_o judge_v but_o not_o to_o judge_v of_o lawful_a or_o unlawful_a rite_n other_o of_o they_o be_v ordain_v to_o judge_v of_o rite_n but_o not_o of_o pecuniary_a cause_n the_o form_n of_o word_n which_o he_o cit_v be_v this_o et_fw-la sit_fw-la tibi_fw-la sacultas_fw-la judicandi_fw-la sed_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la minime_fw-la sit_fw-la tibi_fw-la facultas_fw-la decernendi_fw-la quinam_fw-la ritus_fw-la illiciti_fw-la quinam_fw-la liciti_fw-la aut_fw-la sit_fw-la tibi_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la facultas_fw-la decernendi_fw-la ita_fw-la tamen_fw-la ut_fw-la causas_fw-la pecuniarias_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la tibi_fw-la facultas_fw-la judicandi_fw-la behold_v a_o sacred_a and_o a_o civil_a jurisdiction_n distinguish_v mr._n selden_n himself_o uxor_fw-la ebr._n lib._n 1_o cap._n 15._o tell_v we_o that_o the_o word_n presbyter_n or_o elder_n be_v by_o the_o talmudicall_a writer_n use_v no_o only_a for_o those_o who_o be_v create_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n to_o a_o magistraticall_a or_o judicial_a faculty_n such_o as_o the_o member_n of_o the_o sanhedrim_n or_o such_o as_o be_v candidat_n in_o that_o faculty_n and_o as_o it_o be_v expectant_n of_o a_o place_n and_o membership_n in_o their_o court_n of_o justice_n but_o also_o for_o other_o fit_a and_o idoneous_a person_n who_o may_v be_v call_v for_o counsel_n or_o advice_n therefore_o all_o their_o elder_n be_v not_o civil_a magistrate_n my_o second_o argument_n shall_v be_v take_v from_o the_o jewish_a ordination_n of_o elder_n ordination_n be_v a_o act_n of_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n not_o of_o order_n with_o imposition_n of_o hand_n from_o which_o mr._n selden_n eutych_n pag._n 24._o 25._o tell_v we_o the_o christian_a ordination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n upon_o presbyter_n be_v bo_z row_v even_o as_o the_o christian_a baptism_n from_o the_o jewish_a baptism_n at_o the_o admission_n of_o proselyte_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n from_o what_o be_v use_v in_o the_o passover_n whereunto_o he_o say_v any_o man_n will_v assent_v if_o he_o consider_v what_o be_v find_v in_o the_o talmudicall_a writer_n of_o the_o number_n of_o three_o which_o be_v the_o least_o number_n which_o can_v suffice_v to_o the_o ordain_v of_o a_o jewish_a elder_a and_o the_o same_o be_v the_o least_o number_n which_o the_o ancient_a church_n think_v sufficient_a for_o ordination_n also_o of_o the_o internal_a effect_n of_o that_o jewish_a ordination_n with_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n which_o effect_n be_v the_o rest_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n upon_o the_o elder_a so_o ordain_v and_o this_o be_v draw_v from_o num._n 11._o 26._o deut._n 34._o 9_o see_v ibid._n 21._o 22._o there_o be_v so_o much_o of_o the_o christian_a ordination_n borrow_v from_o the_o jewish_a that_o d._n buxtorf_n lex_fw-la rabbin_z pag_n 1499._o where_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o jewish_a ordination_n referre_v to_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o i_o will_v add_v other_o three_o cite_v by_o mr._n selden_n ibid._n pag_n 22._o first_o i._o scaliger_n elench_v triher_n cap_n 20._o when_o i_o turn_v to_o this_o place_n i_o find_v scaliger_n move_v the_o question_n how_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o christ_n be_v permit_v to_o sit_v and_o to_o teach_v among_o the_o doctor_n in_o the_o temple_n not_o be_v ordain_v mark_v here_o a_o ordination_n which_o be_v for_o public_a teach_n not_o for_o a_o power_n of_o civil_a judicature_n which_o christ_n never_o assume_v and_o how_o it_o come_v that_o both_o he_o and_o john_n baptist_n be_v call_v rabbi_n also_o he_o parallel_n one_o new_o ordain_v among_o the_o jew_n with_o a_o young_a bishop_n in_o the_o ancient_a canon_n the_o next_o shall_v be_v h._n grotius_n annot_n in_o evan._n pag_n 329._o when_o i_o turn_v hither_o i_o find_v grotius_n speak_v thus_o manuum_fw-la impositio_fw-la apud_fw-la judaeos_fw-la indicabat_fw-la invocationem_fw-la divinae_fw-la potentiae_fw-la ut_fw-la alibi_fw-la diximus_fw-la unde_fw-la factum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la munia_fw-la publica_fw-la eo_fw-la ritu_fw-la conferentur_fw-la etiam_fw-la civilia_fw-la ut_fw-la senatorum_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o in_fw-la archisynagogis_fw-la &_o senioribus_fw-la synagogae_fw-la idem_fw-la observatum_fw-la unde_fw-la mos_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la christianos_n transiit_fw-la here_o be_v a_o ecclesiastical_a ordination_n to_o office_n in_o the_o synagogue_n which_o he_o distinguish_v from_o civil_a office_n last_o i_o turn_v to_o itiner_n beni_n pag_n 73._o 74._o where_o i_o read_v of_o one_o d._n daniel_n filius_fw-la husday_n call_v caput_fw-la exulum_fw-la unto_o who_o the_o disperse_a jew_n in_o several_a province_n have_v their_o recourse_n for_o ordination_n of_o their_o preacher_n or_o teacher_n he_o omnes_fw-la israelitarum_fw-la caetus_fw-la ab_fw-la exulum_fw-la capite_fw-la potestatem_fw-la accipiunt_fw-la sibi_fw-la in_o singulis_fw-la congregationibus_fw-la professorem_fw-la &_o concionatorem_fw-la praeficiendi_fw-la nam_fw-la ipsum_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la ut_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositione_n potestatem_fw-la accipiant_fw-la be_v this_o ordination_n now_o to_o a_o civil_a rule_n or_o judicature_n a_o doctor_n or_o professor_n in_o the_o school_n and_o a_o preacher_n in_o the_o synagogue_n be_v here_o join_v as_o the_o common_a and_o ordinary_a ruler_n in_o the_o particular_a assembly_n of_o the_o jew_n as_o l'_fw-mi empereur_n note_v not_o in_o benjam_n 148._o 149._o where_o he_o also_o clear_v that_o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chazan_n mention_v there_o by_o benjamin_n be_v not_o a_o civil_a ruler_n but_o praelector_n &_o concionator_n a_o reader_n &_o expounder_n of_o scripture_n see_v buxtorf_n lex_fw-la rabbin_z at_o the_o same_o word_n hic_fw-la maxim_n oratione_fw-la sive_fw-la precibus_fw-la &_o cantu_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la praeibat_fw-la praeerat_fw-la lectioni_fw-la legali_fw-la docens_fw-la quod_fw-la &_o quomodo_fw-la legendum_fw-la &_o similibus_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la sacra_fw-la pertinebant_fw-la and_o after_o he_o say_v of_o this_o word_n pro_fw-la ministro_fw-la sacrorum_fw-la passim_fw-la