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A41189 A second dialogue between the Pope and a phanatick, concerning affairs in England by the author of the first, who is a hearty lover of his prince and country. Hearty lover of his prince and country.; Ferguson, Robert, d. 1714. 1681 (1681) Wing F758; ESTC R17988 8,027 18

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against the Collective Wisdom of a Nation to term the Actions of an Heroick House of Commons Irregularities Miscarriages illegal and unwarrantable Proceeding this is too high an Affront to be forgotten For tho we printed our Votes and discover'd our Secrets on purpose to inflame the little Sisters yet for the King to expose the Pudenda or Nakedness of the Peoples Members in Churches and Markets to be observ'd and scoff'd at by Crowds of Tories this was uncivil and immodest nay about two years ago I would have call'd it Impudence But that which added to my Vexation was the Prelatical order for reading of it in the Pulpit if it had been denounc'd below the Mount in the despis'd Service-Desk it would have had no Impression or Solemnity but being publish'd from the Sanctum Sanctorum of the Pulpit that most Sacred Seat of Oracles this made it pass for Jure Divino and because the Voice came from the Pulpit some silly People were apt to think that the Declaration was made in Heaven This was a Metropolitan Stratagem and shall be recorded for the first Article against William the Second Pope But I am inform'd that there was an Use of Consolation in the conclusion of that Declaration wherein the King promis'd the People the Favour of frequent Parliaments Phan. In my opinion that is not so great a Favour except we can sit again next door to Hell where we may correspond with our old Familiars But however Frequent Parliaments suppose frequent Dissolutions and one Good old fashion'd Long Parliament were worth 500 frequent ones Pope But I hope you do not despond and give up the common Cause as desperate Phan. I will never despair as long as you have a Being in the World for I yet find there is an infallibility in your Name the crying Pope and Popery is still the surest stratagem and there could be no successful Plot without that infallible Noise But that which most supports my hopes is the King's want of Money The Fort Royal is defended by so many Cannons and Regular Fortifications that there is no way to take it but starving And to this end we have by a Solemn Vote made it Treason against the Parliament for the King or his Friends to supply his need without the consent of his Enemies For if it be in the power of Zeal Money or Perjury we will send him such Commons as shall never grant him a penny except he stake his Crown or some of the Jewels of it Pope I would have you declare in all the High Courts of Shops and Coffee-houses that a Parliament is as necessary to raise Money in England as a Purgatory at Rome But I am afraid your Church of England Tories have no more regard to Votes than you have for Proclamations And you have so alarm'd them by your late Arbitrary Proceedings that I am jealous that they should rather think it their Interest to make an honourable and timely Composition with the Crown by some considerable Benevolence than run the Adventure to be plunder'd by your Troops and sequester'd by your Committees I do allow your indisputable Maxim that the Poverty of the King is the interest of a Presbyterian House of Commons And you have wisely ordain'd that though the King should be reduc'd to the straitest Exigencies yet he must not so much as ask an Alms and if Necessity should teach him the common impudence to be a Beggar yet you have politicly resolved that it shall be a Crime to be charitable to the Crown without the leave of the Commons those High Almoners of England But Brother the Mischief is that you did once contribute your Money and Plate to carry on the War against the King without a Statute of Parliament Now this may become an unlucky Precedent and if ever the Cavaliers come to be considering Animals they may chance to conclude That they may as freely give their Gold to support the hands of Moses as you did to make the Golden Calf of a Commonwealth And that it were more Religion and Loyalty in their Prince's Extremity to contribute their money without a Parliament to preserve the King and Monarchy than it was for you to destroy them both by an Arbitrary Contribution Now this being the fatal Crisis of our Cause be sure you maintain with all possible confidence That for any one to cast in his Free-will-offerings into the Treasury or Corban of the Crown is Will-worship and Popery and as Antichristian a Superstition as Alms and Charity I wonder you have so long allow'd the King that Imperial Prerogative to be the sole Lord of the Mint it would have been a mighty Policy and Advantage if you could have shared in that Authority and Enacted that the Coin of England should have had the Image of the King stamp'd on one side and the Superscription of the Common-wealth on the other This would have been a Demonstration that he could never have had any Money without you There is an Apocryphal passage in the Gospel that would make us believe that Christ and St. Peter should pay Tribute to Caesar without the consent of the Sanhedrim and should tell the Jews they were oblig'd to do so too because the Money had the Image and Superscription of Caesar which did suppose their subjection to him and his intire Authority over them And I observe that Charles the Second in his English Coin is stamp'd more Romano and his Image looks like the Ancient Figure of Caesar Augustus I wish this be not ominous Phan. Peter's calling the King Supreme and his Example and Paul's Command of paying Tribute to Emperours because they are God's Ministers and upon the account of their care in Government does no way concern you or me for you know there were no Popes nor Parliaments in those dayes of Primitive Christianity Pope You have answer'd like an Oracle But suppose the Cavaliers should be such Fools as to shut their Purses till you cut them open and keep their Money till they lose their Lands though they should not present their Oblations yet the unwilling Sacrifices of our Estates which will be drawn from us by the Cords of Penal Laws will help to inrich the Crown and which is worst of all will give the King the Advantage to answer our Clamors of Arbitrary Power by destroying of us both according to Law Phan. I hope to prevent all these Mischiefs in the next Session of Parliament Pope But I am afraid that your Elect Members have been so often Reprobated by Prorogations and Dissolutions that they should be weary of appearing And if ever the King by any crafty Stratagem procure a Cavaliering Parliament who are Bigots for the Monarchy and Hierarchy of England both you and I are ruin'd and we are sure not to have one Friend in the three Estates Such a pack of Tories would restore the Use of Convocations and damn the Lay Committee for Religion they would contrive such Persian Laws that should