whether_o be_v any_o bind_v to_o obey_v they_o at_o least_o when_o they_o over-rule_v christ_n own_o institution_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 111._o §_o 15._o and_o whether_o to_o devise_v new_a species_n of_o church_n without_o god_n authority_n and_o impose_v they_o on_o the_o world_n in_o his_o name_n and_o call_v all_o dissenter_n schismatic_n be_v not_o a_o far_o worse_a usurpation_n than_o to_o make_v and_o impose_v new_a ceremony_n or_o liturgy_n ibid._n §_o 16._o q._n 74._o whether_o a_o society_n of_o neighbour-christians_a associate_v with_o a_o pastor_n or_o pastor_n for_o personal_a communion_n in_o holy_a doctrine_n discipline_n and_o worship_n be_v not_o a_o church_n form_n of_o divine_a institution_n first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 8._o and_o whether_o any_o proof_n have_v ever_o be_v produce_v that_o many_o church_n of_o this_o first_o rank_n must_v of_o duty_n make_v one_o fix_v great_a compound_v church_n by_o association_n as_o diocesan_n national_a etc._n etc._n and_o that_o god_n have_v institute_v any_o such_o form_n whether_o the_o great_a defender_n of_o prelacy_n do_v not_o affirm_v such_o to_o be_v but_o humane_a institution_n ib._n p._n 12_o 13._o whether_o ever_o any_o satisfactory_a proof_n have_v be_v bring_v that_o ever_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n do_v institute_v any_o particular_a church_n take_v in_o a_o political_a sense_n as_o organise_v and_o not_o mere_o for_o a_o community_n without_o a_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n who_o have_v the_o power_n of_o teach_v they_o rule_v they_o by_o the_o word_n and_o power_n of_o the_o church-key_n and_o lead_v they_o in_o public_a worship_n ibid._n p._n 13._o and_o whether_o have_v it_o yet_o be_v prove_v that_o any_o one_o church_n of_o this_o first_o rank_n which_o be_v not_o a_o association_n of_o church_n consist_v in_o scripture-time_n of_o many_o much_o less_o of_o many_o score_n or_o hundred_o such_o fix_a church_n or_o congregation_n or_o that_o any_o one_o bishop_n of_o the_o first_o rank_n that_o be_v not_o a_o apostle_n or_o bishop_n of_o bishop_n have_v more_o than_o one_o of_o such_o fix_a society_n or_o church_n under_o he_o or_o may_v have_v more_o state_v member_n of_o his_o church_n than_o be_v capable_a of_o personal_a communion_n and_o mutual_a assistance_n at_o due_a season_n in_o holy_a doctrine_n discipline_n and_o worship_n as_o now_o there_o be_v many_o chapel_n in_o some_o parish_n who_o proximity_n and_o relation_n to_o the_o parish-church_n make_v they_o capable_a of_o personal_a communion_n in_o due_a season_n with_o the_o whole_a parish_n at_o lest_o per_fw-la vice_n in_o those_o church_n and_o in_o their_o conversation_n and_o as_o a_o single_a congregation_n may_v prudent_o in_o persecution_n or_o foul_a wether_n meet_v ofttimes_o in_o several_a house_n so_o why_o may_v not_o the_o great_a church_n of_o jerusalem_n which_o yet_o can_v be_v prove_v a_o quarter_n so_o big_a as_o some_o of_o our_o parish_n hold_v their_o public_a meeting_n oft_o at_o the_o same_o time_n in_o divers_a house_n when_o they_o have_v no_o temple_n and_o yet_o be_v capable_a of_o personal_a communion_n as_o before_o describe_v ibid._n p._n 13_o 14._o and_o when_o the_o learned_a dr._n hammond_n on_o 1_o tim._n 3._o say_v the_o church_n of_o the_o live_a god_n be_v every_o such_o regular_a assembly_n of_o christian_n under_o a_o bishop_n such_o as_o timothy_n be_v and_o oeconomus_fw-la set_v over_o they_o by_o christ_n etc._n etc._n do_v he_o not_o here_o suppose_v as_o he_o elsewhere_o show_v that_o the_o facto_fw-la episcopal_a church_n be_v in_o scripture-time_n but_o single_a congregation_n then_o whether_o be_v the_o new_a form_n of_o congregation_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la when_o they_o become_v but_o part_n of_o a_o bishop_n church_n and_o may_v we_o not_o query_n the_o same_o of_o the_o new_a form_n of_o a_o diocesan_n church_n ibid._n p._n 5_o 6._o and_o do_v not_o ignatius_n express_o make_v one_o altar_n and_o one_o bishop_n with_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n to_o be_v the_o note_n of_o a_o church_n unity_n and_o individuation_n whence_o learned_a mr._n joseph_n mede_n do_v argue_v it_o as_o certain_z that_o then_o a_o bishop_n church_n be_v no_o other_o than_o such_o as_o usual_o communicate_v in_o one_o place_n ibid._n p._n 17._o and_o see_v answ._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 75._o or_o 69._o q._n 75._o and_o see_v it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o god_n have_v institute_v any_o other_o than_o congregational_a or_o parochial_a church_n as_o for_o present_a communion_n whether_o must_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o none_o of_o the_o rest_n institute_v by_o man_n have_v power_n to_o deprive_v such_o single_a church_n of_o any_o of_o the_o privilege_n grant_v they_o by_o christ_n and_o whereas_o christ_n have_v make_v the_o term_n of_o catholic_n communion_n himself_o and_o have_v command_v all_o such_o to_o worship_v he_o public_o in_o holy_a communion_n under_o faithful_a pastor_n choose_v or_o at_o least_o consent_v to_o by_o themselves_o which_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n many_o hundred_o year_n whether_o can_v any_o humane_a order_n or_o power_n deprive_v they_o of_o any_o of_o this_o benefit_n or_o disoblige_v they_o from_o any_o of_o this_o duty_n by_o just_a authority_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 111._o §_o 13._o q._n 76._o then_o if_o any_o prince_n will_v turn_v his_o kingdom_n or_o a_o whole_a province_n into_o one_o only_a church_n and_o thereby_o overthrow_v all_o the_o first_o order_n of_o church_n of_o christ_n institution_n which_o be_v associate_v for_o personal_a present_a communion_n allow_v they_o no_o pastor_n that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n or_o all_o essential_a to_o their_o office_n though_o he_o shall_v allow_v parochial_a oratory_n or_o chapel_n which_o shall_v be_v no_o true_a church_n but_o part_n of_o a_o church_n whether_o be_v it_o schism_n to_o gather_v church_n within_o such_o a_o church_n against_o the_o law_n of_o such_o a_o prince_n first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 52._o or_o whether_o have_v god_n make_v such_o proper_a judge_n whether_o christ_n shall_v have_v church_n according_a to_o his_o law_n or_o whether_o god_n shall_v be_v worship_v and_o soul_n save_v or_o his_o own_o institution_n of_o church_n be_v observe_v ibid._n p._n 53._o q._n 77._o and_o if_o any_o person_n shall_v pretend_v to_o have_v the_o power_n of_o govern_v the_o church_n and_o inferior_a pastor_n as_o their_o bishop_n who_o be_v obtrude_v on_o those_o church_n without_o the_o election_n or_o consent_v of_o the_o people_n or_o inferior_a pastor_n and_o these_o bishop_n shall_v by_o law_n or_o mandate_n forbid_v such_o assemble_v preach_a or_o worship_n as_o otherwise_o will_v be_v lawful_a and_o a_o duty_n whether_o be_v it_o schism_n to_o disobey_v such_o law_n or_o mandate_n as_o such_o ibid._n p._n 80._o bishop_n bilson_n of_o subject_a p._n 399._o grant_v the_o election_n of_o bishop_n in_o those_o day_n belong_v to_o the_o people_n and_o not_o to_o the_o prince_n and_o though_o valens_n by_o plain_a force_n place_v lucius_n there_o yet_o may_v the_o people_n lawful_o reject_v he_o as_o no_o bishop_n and_o cleave_v to_o peter_n their_o right_a pastor_n ibid._n p._n 79._o and_o however_o in_o some_o case_n the_o advantage_n of_o some_o impose_v person_n may_v make_v it_o a_o act_n of_o prudence_n and_o so_o a_o duty_n to_o consent_v yet_o whether_o be_v such_o true_o the_o bishop_n of_o such_o church_n till_o they_o do_v consent_n ibid._n p._n 80._o have_v not_o this_o be_v take_v for_o their_o right_n give_v they_o by_o god_n and_o do_v not_o dr._n blondel_n de_fw-la jure_fw-la plebis_fw-la in_o reg._n eccl._n beyond_o exception_n prove_v it_o with_o more_o ib._n p._n 81._o therefore_o if_o bishop_n that_o have_v no_o foundation_n of_o such_o relative_n power_n shall_v impose_v inferior_a pastor_n on_o the_o parish-church_n and_o command_v the_o people_n acceptance_n and_o obedience_n whether_o be_v the_o people_n bind_v to_o accept_v and_o obey_v they_o by_o any_o authority_n that_o be_v in_o that_o command_n as_o such_o or_o whether_o be_v it_o schism_n to_o disobey_v it_o ibid._n p._n 82._o q._n 78._o whether_o do_v it_o not_o follow_v from_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o diocesan_n that_o hold_v a_o bishop_n be_v essential_a to_o a_o church_n and_o consequent_o that_o we_o have_v no_o more_o church_n than_o diocese_n that_o he_o who_o separate_v from_o a_o parish-church_n separate_v from_o no_o church_n sacril_n desert_n p._n 24._o q_o 79._o whether_o we_o shall_v not_o more_o just_o deserve_v the_o term_n of_o schismatic_n if_o we_o renounce_v communion_n with_o all_o other_o church_n except_o parochial_a and_o conformist_n and_o who_o conscience_n shall_v soon_o accuse_v he_o of_o schism_n whether_o ouâ—s_v that_o resolve_v to_o hold_v communion_n seasonable_o with_o all_o true_a christian_a church_n among_o we_o that_o
make_v part_n of_o divine_a worship_n you_o will_v excuse_v those_o that_o can_v submit_v to_o they_o unless_o they_o can_v be_v prove_v of_o divine_a institution_n if_o they_o be_v thing_n not_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o word_n according_a to_o what_o you_o have_v p._n 116._o they_o shall_v not_o be_v 〈◊〉_d they_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o use_v they_o no_o church-governor_n upon_o faith_n hauâ—_n suâ—h_v a_o power_n to_o bind_v man_n to_o thing_n not_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o word_n if_o their_o 〈◊〉_d enjoin_v what_o christ_n law_n forbid_v as_o the_o make_n of_o any_o nâ—w_a part_n of_o worship_n they_o be_v ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la null_a and_o void_a king_n jamâ—s_n 〈…〉_z right_n of_o king_n p._n 428._o it_o be_v moreover_o grant_v if_o a_o king_n sâ—all_v command_v any_o thing_n direct_o contrary_a to_o god_n word_n and_o tend_v to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o church_n that_o clery_n in_o this_o case_n ought_v not_o only_o to_o dispense_v with_o subject_n for_o thâ—ir_a obedience_n but_o also_o express_o to_o forbid_v their_o obedience_n for_o it_o be_v always_o better_a to_o obey_v god_n than_o man._n and_o i_o hope_v you_o will_v not_o set_v up_o the_o power_n of_o any_o church-governour_n above_o the_o king_n be_v here_o and_o abâ—ve_v christâ—â—_n and_o what_o episcopius_n say_v in_o defence_n of_o sever_v meeting_n sometime_o against_o the_o will_n of_o the_o magistrate_n vol._n 1._o par._n 2._o p._n 56._o col_fw-fr 2._o may_v be_v apply_v hâ—re_o to_o non-submission_n in_o such_o case_n as_o be_v speak_v of_o to_o the_o determination_n of_o church-governous_a deirectatio_fw-la autem_fw-la illa_fw-la obedienâ—iae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d est_fw-la in_o obedientia_fw-la nedum_fw-la resiâ—tentia_fw-la sed_fw-la tantum_fw-la supremi_fw-la juris_fw-la 〈◊〉_d quâ—d_fw-la magistratus_fw-la sibi_fw-la 〈◊〉_d adrogat_fw-la out_o userpat_o debita_fw-la recognitio_fw-la it_o shall_v not_o be_v call_v non-submission_n to_o our_o governor_n but_o rather_o a_o due_a recogniâ—â—â—on_n of_o the_o sovereign_n right_a and_o authority_n of_o our_o high_a lord_n for_o haste_n i_o have_v here_o throw_v thing_n on_o heap_n a_o few_o word_n now_o to_o the_o three_o part_n of_o your_o last_o conclusion_n 3._o you_o say_v whole_o as_o to_o the_o form_n of_o government_n every_o one_o be_v bind_v to_o submit_v to_o such_o determination_n here_o i_o offer_v to_o your_o consideration_n what_o follow_v 1._o whether_o they_o that_o can_v submit_v to_o episcopacy_n as_o to_o their_o practice_n that_o be_v live_v peaceable_o under_o it_o and_o obey_v governor_n in_o licitis_fw-la &_o honestis_fw-la so_o far_o as_o god_n law_n allow_v shall_v be_v urge_v further_o to_o submit_v their_o judgement_n to_o the_o divine_a or_o apostolical_a right_n of_o episcopacy_n when_o determine_v by_o governor_n whatever_o their_o private_a judgement_n may_v be_v can_v bishop_n cranmer_n have_v declare_v his_o assent_n to_o such_o determination_n who_o judgement_n be_v that_o the_o bishop_n and_o priest_n be_v not_o two_o thing_n but_o both_o one_o office_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o christ_n religion_n as_o you_o cite_v his_o ms._n irenic_n p._n 392._o can_v such_o a_o man_n as_o dr._n holland_n and_o i_o need_v not_o tell_v you_o what_o he_o be_v who_o call_v dr_n laud_n a_o schismatic_a for_o assert_v the_o divine_a right_n of_o episcopacy_n say_v it_o be_v to_o make_v a_o division_n betwixt_o the_o english_a and_o other_o reform_a church_n or_o can_v lud._n capellus_n have_v submit_v to_o such_o determination_n that_o it_o be_v evident_a to_o every_o one_o diligent_o read_v holy_a scripture_n etc._n etc._n who_o in_o effect_n say_v the_o contrary_a thes._n salmur_n p._n 8._o §_o 33._o neque_fw-la verò_fw-la praescripto_fw-la ullo_fw-la divino_fw-la desinitum_fw-la esse_fw-la putamus_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o if_o the_o like_a be_v determine_v of_o arch-bishop_n as_o of_o bishop_n i_o be_o in_o some_o doubt_n from_o what_o i_o meet_v with_o in_o your_o rational_a account_n whether_o you_o can_v submit_v to_o such_o determination_n for_o there_o pag._n 298._o you_o speak_v of_o it_o as_o a_o know_a and_o receive_v truth_n in_o the_o ancient_a church_n that_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v a_o whole_a consist_v of_o homogeneal_a part_n without_o any_o such_o subordination_n or_o dependence_n here_o i_o will_v be_v satisfy_v how_o you_o will_v expound_v homogeneal_a part_n and_o so_o you_o seem_v to_o expound_v they_o p._n 300._o since_o the_o care_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o these_o word_n of_o cyprian_a episcopatus_fw-la unus_fw-la appear_v to_o be_v equal_o commit_v to_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o than_o shall_v not_o all_o that_o have_v the_o care_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n commit_v to_o they_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v bishop_n and_o no_o one_o bishop_n above_o another_o otherwise_o how_o be_v the_o care_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n equal_o commit_v to_o they_o how_o be_v there_o episcopatus_fw-la unus_fw-la and_o how_o do_v the_o church_n consist_v of_o homogeneal_a part_n and_o thus_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o no_o constitution_n high_o than_o that_o of_o such_o bishop_n as_o have_v the_o care_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n commit_v to_o they_o which_o you_o here_o suppose_v to_o be_v with_o a_o parity_n shall_v be_v make_v the_o centre_n of_o ecelesiastical_a communion_n and_o yet_o more_o full_o p._n 302._o when_o s._n cyprian_n say_v episcopatus_fw-la unus_fw-la est_fw-la cujus_fw-la à _fw-la singulis_fw-la in_o solidum_fw-la pars_fw-la tenetur_fw-la de_fw-la vnit._fw-la eccles._n p._n 208._o that_o every_o part_n belong_v to_o each_o bishop_n be_v hold_v in_o solidum_fw-la he_o therein_o import_v that_o full_a right_n and_o power_n which_o every_o bishop_n have_v over_o his_o charge_n and_o in_o this_o speech_n he_o compare_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n to_o a_o estate_n hold_v by_o several_a freeholders_n in_o which_o every_o one_o have_v a_o full_a 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power_n that_o be_v lawful_a power_n or_o authority_n from_o christ_n to_o appoint_v and_o command_v the_o use_n of_o such_o ceremony_n than_o they_o can_v show_v so_o much_o power_n grant_v they_o in_o their_o commission_n or_o prove_v it_o from_o the_o write_a law_n of_o christ._n here_o i_o remember_v what_o you_o say_v rational_a account_n p._n 103._o be_v it_o in_o that_o place_n where_o he_o bid_v the_o apostle_n to_o teach_v all_o that_o he_o command_v they_o that_o he_o give_v power_n to_o the_o church_n to_o teach_v more_o than_o he_o command_v and_o a_o little_a before_o it_o what_o have_v he_o command_v she_o to_o do_v to_o add_v to_o his_o doctrine_n by_o make_v thing_n necessary_a which_o he_o never_o make_v to_o be_v so_o sure_o you_o can_v think_v the_o church_n have_v any_o such_o power_n in_o all_o kind_n of_o
no_o such_o matter_n but_o in_o righteousness_n and_o peace_n and_o joy_n in_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 14._o because_o christ_n be_v please_v in_o this_o without_o the_o other_o and_o god_n accept_v such_o 15._o because_o such_o be_v approve_v of_o man_n i._n e._n this_o righteousness_n peace_n and_o holy_a joy_n without_o agreement_n in_o such_o ceremony_n and_o by-matter_n bear_v its_o own_o testimony_n for_o approbation_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o impartial_a man_n humanity_n and_o christianity_n teach_v we_o to_o love_n and_o honour_v such_o 16._o from_o our_o common_a obligation_n to_o live_v in_o peace_n with_o all_o 17._o from_o our_o obligation_n to_o do_v all_o to_o the_o edify_n of_o one_o another_o 18._o because_o god_n work_n else_o be_v destroy_v by_o we_o 19_o because_o our_o own_o lawful_a act_n be_v turn_v into_o sin_n when_o they_o hurt_v another_o and_o from_o the_o obligation_n that_o lie_v on_o we_o to_o deny_v our_o own_o liberty_n in_o meat_n etc._n etc._n to_o avoid_v the_o hurt_v of_o another_o that_o be_v weak_a 20._o from_o the_o damnation_n of_o such_o as_o be_v drive_v or_o draw_v to_o act_v doubt_o 21._o from_o the_o special_a duty_n and_o mercy_n of_o the_o strong_a that_o shall_v bear_v the_o infirmity_n of_o the_o weak_a 22._o from_o the_o example_n of_o christ_n himself_o that_o please_v not_o himself_o and_o our_o great_a obligation_n to_o imitate_v christ._n 23._o from_o god_n patience_n to_o we_o 24._o because_o indeed_o this_o be_v the_o true_a way_n to_o love_n and_o unity_n that_o with_o one_o mind_n and_o one_o mouth_n we_o may_v glorify_v god_n while_o we_o lay_v not_o our_o concord_n on_o impossible_a term_n 25._o because_o christ_n receive_v we_o and_o it_o be_v to_o god_n glory_n etc._n etc._n whether_o do_v all_o these_o moral_a argument_n signify_v no_o more_o than_o this_o receive_v and_o tolerate_v such_o only_a till_o you_o make_v law_n against_o they_o ibid._n p._n 150_o 151_o 152._o query_n 2._o whether_o man_n have_v any_o authority_n to_o make_v law_n about_o god_n worship_n but_o what_o christ_n have_v give_v they_o second_v plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 28._o §_o 36._o and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o mind_n and_o law_n of_o christ_n declare_v act._n 15._o 28._o that_o unnecessary_a law_n and_o burden_n in_o religion_n shall_v be_v make_v for_o and_o lay_v upon_o the_o church_n ibid._n p._n 29._o §_o 40._o so_o whether_o that_o determination_n and_o decree_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o obligatory_a to_o all_o ruler_n and_o church_n upon_o earth_n even_o to_o this_o day_n and_o whether_o all_o that_o think_v not_o themselves_o wise_a shall_v not_o confess_v that_o at_o least_o it_o be_v safe_a to_o follow_v it_o ibid._n p._n 169._o §_o 74._o if_o therefore_o the_o pastor_n shall_v contrary_v to_o that_o decree_n impose_v unnecessary_a thing_n on_o the_o church_n not_o only_o under_o the_o obligation_n of_o duty_n but_o as_o a_o necessary_a condition_n of_o church-communion_n whether_o this_o be_v not_o a_o tyrannize_a over_o god_n heritage_n and_o usurp_a a_o power_n never_o give_v they_o ibid._n p._n 155._o §_o 33._o q._n 3._o whether_o what_o god_n have_v leave_v to_o human_a prudence_n to_o determine_v concern_v church_n and_o church-affair_n be_v not_o thus_o limit_v by_o his_o general_a law_n viz._n that_o all_o thing_n be_v do_v to_o edification_n the_o circumstance_n fit_v to_o the_o end_n the_o glory_n of_o god_n and_o the_o public_a good_a the_o promote_a of_o truth_n and_o godliness_n that_o all_o be_v do_v in_o love_n to_o the_o promote_a of_o love_n and_o unity_n and_o that_o all_o be_v do_v in_o order_n and_o decent_o and_o as_o may_v avoid_v offence_n or_o scandal_n to_o all_o both_o those_o without_o and_o those_o within_o first_o plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 19_o then_o query_n 1._o whether_o they_o do_v well_o that_o unnecessary_o bring_v subject_n into_o such_o a_o straight_a by_o needless_a law_n for_o addition_n in_o religion_n that_o the_o conscience_n of_o man_n fear_v god_n must_v unavoidable_o be_v perplex_v between_o a_o fear_n of_o treason_n and_o disobedience_n against_o christ_n and_o of_o disobedience_n to_o their_o prince_n or_o pastor_n second_v plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 28._o §_o 38._o 2._o whether_o it_o be_v not_o more_o inexcusable_a to_o rack_v and_o divide_v the_o church_n by_o unnecessary_a addition_n in_o religion_n ibid._n §_o 39_o 3._o whether_o it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o will_n and_o law_n of_o christ_n to_o use_v thing_n otherwise_o indifferent_a scandalous_o or_o tempt_o to_o the_o ensnare_a and_o endanger_v of_o man_n soul_n and_o the_o dishonour_n of_o religion_n rom._n 14_o &_o 15._o 1_o cor._n 8._o and_o whether_o man_n may_v make_v law_n about_o religion_n enjoin_v such_o a_o evil_a use_n of_o such_o thing_n ibid._n p._n 29._o §_o 41._o 4._o whether_o to_o invent_v and_o command_v new_a publick-worship-ordinance_n either_o in_o god_n name_n or_o their_o own_o coordinate_a or_o of_o the_o same_o kind_n with_o god_n own_o worship-ordinance_n which_o have_v no_o peculiar_a usefulness_n to_o one_o age_n or_o people_n more_o than_o to_o another_o nor_o any_o new_a reason_n for_o they_o but_o what_o be_v extant_a at_o the_o make_n of_o god_n law_n whether_o this_o seem_v not_o to_o be_v a_o accusation_n of_o christ_n law_n of_o omission_n and_o defectiveness_n and_o a_o usurpation_n of_o his_o legislative_a power_n ibid._n §_o 42._o 5._o whether_o to_o forbid_v baptism_n or_o to_o alter_v it_o or_o make_v a_o new_a sacrament_n of_o admission_n or_o a_o new_a consecrate_v or_o dedicate_a symbol_n for_o the_o solemnisation_n of_o our_o covenant_n with_o god_n and_o a_o new_a symbol_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n or_o visible_a badge_n of_o christianity_n seem_v not_o a_o usurpation_n and_o accusation_n of_o god_n law_n as_o insufficient_a ibid._n p._n 30._o §_o 46._o 6._o whether_o to_o forbid_v preach_v or_o prayer_n or_o praise_n ordain_v homogeneal_a mean_n of_o our_o own_o seem_v not_o a_o usurpation_n and_o unlawful_a ibid._n p._n 31._o §_o 47._o 7._o whether_o to_o add_v more_o doctrine_n or_o article_n of_o faith_n which_o god_n have_v not_o reveal_v in_o nature_n or_o scripture_n and_o to_o require_v belief_n or_o proâ—â—â—â—â—_n of_o belief_n of_o the_o same_o 〈…〉_z religious_a end_v seem_v not_o a_o usurpation_n and_o unjust_a accusation_n of_o god_n word_n as_o insufficient_a ibid._n p._n 29._o §_o 43._o 8._o whether_o to_o alter_v the_o qualification_n of_o church-member_n either_o forbid_v those_o that_o christ_n require_v we_o to_o receive_v or_o receive_v such_o as_o christ_n forbid_v we_o to_o receive_v be_v not_o to_o contradict_v his_o law_n by_o usurpation_n whether_o magistrate_n or_o pastor_n do_v it_o ibid._n p._n 30._o §_o 45._o 9_o whether_o to_o alter_v the_o qualification_n of_o christ_n minister_n or_o the_o nature_n of_o their_o office_n and_o invent_v new_a coordinate_a officer_n seem_v not_o usurpation_n ibid._n p._n 31._o §_o 48._o 10._o whether_o to_o overthrow_v or_o prohibit_v christ_n church-discipline_n or_o to_o set_v up_o another_o that_o be_v not_o mere_o subordinate_a to_o it_o modal_o to_o promote_v it_o seem_v not_o a_o usurpation_n ibid._n §_o 51._o 11._o whether_o to_o forbid_v religious_a assembly_n or_o alter_v their_o end_n and_o principal_a use_n be_v not_o to_o usurp_v and_o to_o contradict_v the_o law_n of_o christ_n ibid._n p._n 29._o §_o 44._o q._n 4._o whether_o ruler_n ought_v not_o to_o prefer_v christ_n interest_n before_o their_o own_o and_o account_n that_o their_o own_o lie_v in_o prefer_v his_o and_o shall_v not_o value_v conscionable_a upright_a man_n though_o dissenter_n in_o tolerable_a case_n and_o not_o encourage_v their_o unconscionable_a enemy_n way_n of_o concord_n 3d_o part_n p._n 26._o and_o whether_o the_o chief_a work_n of_o ruler_n be_v not_o to_o promote_v the_o keep_n of_o god_n law_n and_o the_o everlasting_a good_a of_o man_n and_o the_o temporal_a good_a in_o order_n thereunto_o second_v plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 108._o col_fw-fr 1._o §_o 11._o and_o whether_o ruler_n may_v command_v any_o thing_n which_o will_v notable_o do_v more_o harm_n than_o good_a or_o make_v a_o unnecessary_a thing_n a_o mean_n or_o occasion_n of_o exclude_v the_o necessary_a worship_n of_o god_n or_o preach_v of_o his_o gospel_n judgement_n of_o nonconformist_n in_o second_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 76._o §_o 59_o and_o whether_o be_v it_o more_o to_o common_a good_a and_o the_o interest_n of_o honesty_n and_o conscience_n that_o all_o the_o person_n in_o a_o nation_n be_v imprison_v banish_a or_o kill_v that_o dare_v not_o swear_v say_v and_o practice_v all_o that_o be_v impose_v on_o they_o than_o that_o unnecessary_a imposition_n be_v alter_v or_o forbear_v way_n of_o concord_n 3d_o part_n p._n 111_o 112._o q._n 5._o
though_o magistrate_n may_v regulate_v we_o in_o the_o circumstance_n of_o those_o duty_n which_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o gospel_n do_v command_v yet_o if_o on_o such_o pretence_n they_o violate_v or_o contradict_v either_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o the_o gospel_n and_o dedstroy_v the_o duty_n itself_o or_o its_o end_n whether_o we_o be_v bind_v in_o such_o case_n to_o obey_v they_o or_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o that_o we_o patient_o suffer_v first_o plea_n for_o p._n p._n 104._o q._n 6._o whether_o the_o king_n of_o israel_n have_v power_n to_o forbid_v the_o priest_n exercise_v their_o office_n according_a to_o god_n law_n or_o whether_o they_o can_v change_v or_o abrogate_v their_o office_n ibid._n p._n 20._o of_o solomon_n put_v out_o abiathar_n see_v p._n 21._o whether_o may_v they_o then_o have_v put_v out_o a_o lawful_a priest_n that_o have_v not_o forfeit_v his_o life_n or_o office_n or_o may_v they_o have_v put_v any_o one_o in_o his_o place_n that_o have_v not_o right_o from_o god_n or_o that_o be_v unqualify_v or_o may_v they_o have_v forbid_v the_o priest_n the_o work_v appoint_v they_o by_o god_n ibid._n p._n 22._o q._n 7._o whether_o such_o as_o christ_n law_n empower_v to_o ordain_v other_o to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n have_v power_n from_o christ_n to_o hinder_v the_o ordination_n of_o such_o as_o christ_n law_n admit_v into_o the_o ministry_n ibid._n p._n 25._o q._n 8._o whether_o the_o magistrate_n beside_o the_o power_n of_o the_o temple_n and_o tithe_n and_o public_a maintenance_n and_o liberty_n also_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n or_o degradation_n that_o no_o man_n may_v be_v a_o true_a minister_n without_o or_o contrary_a to_o his_o consent_n sacrileg_n desert_n p._n 11._o whether_o be_v not_o many_o of_o the_o nonconformist's_a true_a pastor_n of_o their_o several_a flock_n before_o they_o be_v silence_v and_o cast_v out_o ibid._n and_o whether_o do_v the_o eject_v they_o from_o the_o temple_n and_o tithe_n degrade_v they_o or_o make_v they_o no_o pastor_n to_o their_o flock_n though_o prudence_n may_v require_v minister_n and_o people_n to_o consent_v to_o a_o dissolution_n of_o such_o a_o relation_n when_o they_o can_v hold_v it_o without_o great_a hurt_n than_o benefit_n ibid._n q._n 9_o though_o prince_n or_o patron_n may_v 1._o offer_v meet_a pastor_n to_o the_o ordainer_n and_o consenter_n to_o be_v accept_v when_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n for_o their_o interposition_n 2._o and_o may_v hinder_v both_o ordainer_n and_o people_n from_o introduce_v intolerable_a men._n 3._o and_o when_o a_o people_n ignorance_n wilfulness_n faction_n or_o division_n make_v they_o refuse_v all_o that_o be_v true_o fit_a for_o they_o may_v urge_v they_o to_o accept_v the_o best_a and_o may_v possess_v such_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o public_a maintenance_n and_o make_v it_o consequent_o to_o become_v the_o people_n duty_n to_o consent_n yet_o whether_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n have_v not_o settle_v the_o right_n of_o ordination_n on_o the_o senior_a pastor_n or_o bishop_n and_o the_o right_n of_o consent_v in_o the_o people_n first_o plea_n for_o p._n p._n 33._o and_o whether_o any_o man_n can_v be_v the_o pastor_n of_o a_o church_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la or_o true_o de_fw-la facto_fw-la against_o the_o church_n or_o people_n will_n or_o without_o their_o consent_n ibid._n p._n 25._o as_o the_o say_v of_o cyprian_a be_v well_o know_v that_o the_o people_n have_v the_o great_a power_n both_o to_o choose_v a_o worthy_a priest_n and_o to_o refuse_v or_o forsake_v the_o unworthy_a ibid._n p._n 77_o and_o when_o in_o england_n it_o belong_v 1._o to_o the_o patron_n to_o present_v 2._o to_o the_o bishop_n to_o ordain_v and_o institute_v and_o therefore_o to_o approve_v and_o invest_v 3._o to_o the_o people_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la to_o be_v free_a consenter_n 4._o and_o to_o the_o magistrate_n to_o protect_v and_o judge_v who_o shall_v be_v protect_v or_o tolerate_v under_o he_o if_o these_o four_o party_n be_v for_o four_o minister_n or_o for_o three_o or_o two_o several_a man_n and_o can_v agree_v in_o one_o whether_o the_o culpable_a dissenter_n will_v not_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o schism_n ibid._n p._n 50._o q._n 10._o whether_o the_o church_n and_o council_n be_v in_o the_o right_n or_o no_o which_o for_o 700_o yea_o 1000_o year_n hold_v that_o the_o call_n of_o a_o bishop_n be_v null_a that_o have_v not_o the_o clergy_n election_n and_o the_o people_n election_n or_o consent_n and_o if_o usurper_n shall_v thrust_v out_o the_o bishop_n and_o conformist_n and_o make_v themselves_o our_o pastor_n against_o our_o will_n what_o will_v the_o bishop_n think_v of_o such_o will_v they_o hold_v it_o unlawful_a to_o separate_v from_o such_o agree_v with_o they_o in_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n ans._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 27._o q._n 11._o if_o a_o lawful_a magistrate_n or_o prince_n put_v in_o place_n of_o pastor_n person_n of_o untried_a and_o suspect_a part_n of_o fidelity_n whether_o will_v his_o imposition_n make_v such_o the_o true_a pastor_n of_o that_o church_n before_o and_o without_o the_o people_n consent_n fiâ—st_v plea_n for_o p._n p._n 55._o if_o so_o then_o whether_o may_v not_o one_o roman_a emperor_n have_v undo_v all_o the_o church_n and_o soul_n in_o the_o empire_n in_o a_o great_a degree_n by_o impose_v on_o they_o insufficient_a heretical_a or_o malignant_a pastor_n ibid._n p._n 56._o if_o people_n be_v as_o much_o under_o prince_n for_o choose_v guide_n for_o their_o soul_n as_o a_o daughter_n in_o her_o father_n house_n be_v under_o her_o father_n for_o the_o choice_n of_o a_o husband_n which_o yet_o we_o have_v not_o see_v prove_v yet_o as_o he_o can_v be_v no_o husband_n to_o she_o without_o her_o consent_n though_o she_o culpable_o deny_v consent_n query_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o so_o here_o that_o they_o can_v be_v no_o pastor_n to_o people_n till_o they_o consent_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 209._o §_o 18._o but_o whether_o have_v god_n authorize_v the_o magistrate_n to_o choose_v what_o person_n every_o man_n in_o his_o dominion_n shall_v entrust_v his_o soul_n to_o as_o the_o pastor_n who_o conduct_n he_o be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o obey_v ans._n to_o dr._n still_o serm_n p._n 14._o whether_o shall_v the_o people_n have_v any_o judgement_n of_o discern_v or_o not_o if_o yea_o must_v not_o the_o bound_n of_o it_o be_v show_v without_o deny_v the_o thing_n as_o if_o that_o will_v bring_v in_o all_o confusion_n if_o usurper_n claim_v the_o crown_n must_v not_o subject_n judge_v which_o be_v the_o true_a king_n and_o defend_v his_o right_n will_v any_o say_v if_o the_o people_n be_v judge_n they_o may_v set_v up_o usurper_n and_o put_v down_o the_o king_n when_o they_o be_v but_o discerner_n of_o that_o which_o be_v before_o their_o duty_n and_o have_v no_o right_a to_o err_v or_o alter_v the_o law_n and_o right_n can_v any_o dreadful_a consequence_n be_v prove_v to_o follow_v on_o it_o or_o if_o it_o be_v otherwise_o must_v they_o not_o be_v rule_v as_o brute_n and_o so_o must_v not_o â—udg_v so_o much_o as_o who_o they_o be_v to_o obey_v be_v there_o any_o christian_n that_o dare_v say_v that_o bishop_n or_o prince_n be_v in_o all_o thing_n to_o be_v obey_v lest_o the_o people_n be_v make_v judge_n first_o plea_n for_o p._n p._n 70_o 71._o q._n 12._o whether_o the_o ministerial_a office_n be_v take_v up_o upon_o trial_n or_o for_o a_o time_n or_o during_o life_n with_o a_o capacity_n to_o perform_v the_o work_n if_o the_o latter_a be_v grant_v then_o whether_o it_o be_v any_o less_o than_o 1._o horrid_a sacrilege_n 2._o perfidious_n covenant-breaking_a 3._o disobedience_n to_o god_n 4._o cruelty_n to_o soul_n 5._o and_o unthankfulness_n for_o great_a mercy_n if_o any_o of_o we_o shall_v desert_v our_o undertake_a office_n yea_o though_o a_o silence_v diocesan_n shall_v forbid_v we_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o unjust_o sacrilege_n desert_n p._n 25_o 30._o q._n 13._o if_o ruler_n may_v silence_v the_o faithful_a minister_n of_o christ_n who_o know_v where_o to_o bound_v his_o obedience_n to_o such_o silencer_n if_o a_o 1000_o or_o 2000_o faithful_a minister_n must_v cease_v preach_v when_o so_o forbid_v why_o not_o 3000_o why_o not_o 4000_o if_o half_o a_o kingdom_n can_v you_o satisfy_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o other_o half_a that_o they_o must_v not_o do_v so_o too_o and_o so_o all_o christian_a kingdom_n conform_v to_o muscovy_n when_o the_o prince_n command_v it_o and_o if_o a_o 1000_o or_o 2000_o or_o 3000_o parish_n must_v choose_v the_o apparent_a hazard_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o refuse_v such_o help_n as_o experience_n certify_v we_o they_o great_o need_v in_o obedience_n to_o man_n why_o must_v not_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o parish_n do_v so_o
also_o may_v i_o give_v away_o the_o needful_a help_n to_o my_o salvation_n because_o other_o have_v they_o shall_v their_o salvation_n satisfy_v i_o instead_o of_o my_o own_o first_o plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 89_o 90._o whether_o shall_v man_n persuade_v the_o poor_a to_o famish_v rather_o than_o against_o law_n to_o beg_v because_o if_o thousand_o of_o they_o die_v of_o famine_n yet_o other_o people_n be_v supply_v ib._n p._n 102._o q._n 14._o whether_o the_o ancient_a christian_a pastor_n preach_v not_o against_o the_o will_n of_o prince_n for_o 300_o year_n and_o after_o that_o against_o the_o will_n of_o christian_a prince_n as_o constantius_n valens_n theodosius_n junior_a valentinian_n etc._n etc._n and_o whether_o not_o only_a apostle_n say_v that_o god_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v rather_o than_o man_n but_o such_o as_o timothy_n who_o be_v ordain_v by_o man_n be_v not_o strict_o charge_v before_o god_n and_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n who_o will_v judge_n the_o live_n and_o dead_a at_o his_o appear_v and_o kingdom_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o be_v instant_a in_o season_n etc._n etc._n ib._n p._n 226_o 227._o q._n 15._o whether_o any_o man_n have_v authority_n to_o forbid_v a_o faithful_a minister_n of_o christ_n who_o forfeit_v not_o his_o office-power_n to_o perform_v the_o office_n to_o which_o he_o be_v ordain_v and_o whether_o such_o remain_v not_o under_o a_o divine_a obligation_n which_o man_n law_n can_v dissolve_v whether_o it_o be_v not_o right_a as_o bishop_n bilson_n say_v if_o prince_n forbid_v we_o we_o must_v go_v on_o with_o our_o work_n what_o if_o a_o interdict_v silence_v all_o the_o minister_n in_o a_o kingdom_n must_v all_o obey_v what_o if_o it_o silence_v more_o than_o can_v be_v spare_v without_o the_o church_n wrong_v and_o who_o law_n be_v they_o that_o will_v so_o bind_v be_v it_o infidel_n prince_n or_o only_a christian_n be_v it_o papist_n etc._n etc._n or_o only_o the_o orthodox_n must_v god_n ask_v leave_n of_o ruler_n to_o be_v worship_v as_o god_n have_v god_n make_v man_n judge_n whether_o the_o gospel_n shall_v be_v preach_v or_o not_o or_o whether_o people_n shall_v be_v save_v or_o leave_v to_o perish_v in_o their_o ignorance_n and_o sin_n and_o how_o come_v the_o orthodox_n to_o be_v authorize_v to_o do_v mischief_n or_o to_o forbid_v the_o needful_a preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n any_o more_o than_o a_o heretic_n or_o a_o christian_a more_o than_o a_o heathen_a be_v he_o not_o bind_v to_o do_v more_o good_a than_o they_o rather_o than_o authorize_v to_o do_v more_o hurt_v answ._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 84_o 85._o or_o 78_o 79._o see_v also_o p._n 21._o q._n 16._o where_o such_o sin_n be_v make_v the_o condition_n of_o ministration_n by_o man_n in_o power_n as_o that_o all_o the_o whole_a ministry_n of_o a_o kingdom_n be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o deny_v consent_n and_o conformity_n thereto_o whether_o be_v it_o not_o the_o duty_n of_o all_o the_o ministry_n in_o primo_fw-la instanti_fw-la to_o forbear_v their_o ministerial_a office_n or_o of_o none_o the_o reason_n be_v the_o same_o to_o all_o now_o if_o all_o these_o must_v forbear_v or_o lay_v down_o their_o office_n because_o forbid_v by_o man_n to_o exercise_v it_o then_o be_v it_o not_o in_o the_o power_n of_o a_o prince_n to_o cast_v out_o christianity_n when_o he_o please_v and_o to_o deny_v god_n all_o public_a worship_n and_o must_v we_o not_o then_o ask_v leave_v of_o ruler_n that_o christ_n may_v be_v christ_n and_o soul_n may_v be_v save_v as_o if_o the_o key_n of_o heaven_n and_o hell_n be_v they_o first_o plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 114_o 115._o but_o whether_o must_v not_o all_o agree_v that_o to_o silence_v all_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o nation_n be_v a_o thing_n that_o god_n have_v not_o give_v any_o man_n authority_n to_o do_v because_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o their_o ministry_n and_o consequent_o to_o silence_v any_o necessary_a ministry_n at_o all_o ib._n p._n 223._o and_o if_o all_o must_v not_o lay_v down_o their_o ministry_n why_o must_v a_o 1000_o or_o 2000_o do_v it_o rather_o than_o all_o the_o rest_n if_o it_o be_v say_v the_o rest_n be_v a_o competent_a supply_n to_o the_o church_n how_o shall_v we_o be_v sure_a that_o other_o man_n sin_v will_v absolve_v the_o innocent_a from_o their_o duty_n as_o if_o i_o be_v bind_v to_o be_v a_o minister_n only_o till_o other_o man_n will_v sin_n and_o where_o can_v the_o wit_n of_o man_n ever_o set_v bound_n as_o to_o this_o matter_n will_v it_o not_o be_v grant_v that_o if_o the_o most_o in_o france_n conform_v to_o popery_n this_o will_v not_o disoblige_v all_o other_o from_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o ministry_n and_o who_o then_o can_v say_v what_o those_o untruth_n and_o sin_n be_v which_o a_o weak_a and_o err_a ministry_n may_v be_v guilty_a of_o which_o shall_v serve_v to_o disoblige_v the_o rest_n and_o be_v not_o this_o a_o easy_a way_n to_o introduce_v any_o error_n by_o forbid_v any_o but_o the_o defender_n of_o it_o to_o preach_v ib._n p._n 115_o 116._o q._n 17._o whether_o god_n have_v authorize_v the_o magistrate_n to_o choose_v and_o command_v in_o what_o word_n only_o every_o pastor_n shall_v public_o pray_v to_o god_n and_o what_o book_n and_o word_n of_o man_n he_o shall_v profess_v assent_n and_o consent_v to_o and_o what_o dedicate_a symbol_n of_o christianity_n he_o shall_v use_v as_o engage_v in_o the_o christian_a covenant_n and_o to_o command_v ceremony_n and_o mode_n for_o dissent_n wherein_o he_o shall_v deny_v baptism_n and_o church-communion_n to_o all_o dissenter_n though_o the_o thing_n be_v take_v to_o be_v indifferent_a by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o great_a sin_n by_o the_o dissenter_n answ._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 14._o q._n 18._o whether_o pastor_n usurp_v not_o power_n over_o one_o another_o when_o they_o command_v all_o about_o they_o to_o speak_v to_o man_n from_o god_n or_o to_o god_n from_o man_n in_o no_o other_o word_n but_o what_o they_o the_o usurper_n shall_v write_v they_o down_o make_v minister_n but_o crier_n to_o read_v their_o prescript_n and_o proclamation_n second_v plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 142._o q._n 19_o whether_o any_o but_o volunteer_n shall_v be_v take_v for_o true_a christian_n or_o admit_v to_o holy_a communion_n to_o receive_v the_o seal_n of_o pardon_n and_o life_n way_n of_o concord_n three_o part_n p._n 27._o §_o 7._o and_o whether_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v constrain_v to_o administer_v sacrament_n to_o any_o against_o their_o conscience_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o their_o office_n to_o be_v judge_n who_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o to_o communicate_v ib._n p._n 123._o q._n 20._o if_o any_o be_v urge_v to_o take_v a_o re-ordination_a against_o their_o judgement_n whether_o moral_n must_v not_o be_v prefer_v before_o ritual_n and_o ritual_n never_o set_v against_o they_o and_o whether_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v of_o this_o mind_n that_o deny_v the_o scripture_n to_o have_v unchangeable_o fix_v all_o ritual_n and_o yet_o confess_v that_o moral_n be_v fix_o determine_v ib._n p._n 214_o 215._o it_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o the_o temper_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o ever_o subject_v ceremony_n rite_n and_o external_n order_n to_o moral_n and_o to_o man_n good_a and_o the_o great_a end_n ib._n three_o part_n p._n 81._o q._n 21._o when_o the_o most_o learned_a sober_a judicious_a conformist_n differ_v not_o at_o all_o from_o we_o about_o the_o matter_n itself_o to_o which_o we_o deny_v conformity_n but_o confess_v it_o to_o be_v unlawful_a as_o to_o the_o hard_a point_n of_o the_o impose_v subscription_n oath_n declaration_n and_o covenant_n and_o only_o take_v the_o word_n in_o such_o a_o sense_n in_o which_o we_o ourselves_o can_v take_v they_o be_v we_o persuade_v that_o it_o be_v indeed_o the_o true_a meaning_n of_o they_o query_n hereupon_o how_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o they_o who_o be_v as_o much_o as_o we_o against_o that_o sense_n which_o we_o disow_v and_o agree_v with_o we_o in_o the_o matter_n shall_v deserve_v liberty_n honour_n and_o preferment_n for_o otherwise_o interpret_n the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n which_o the_o lawgiver_n themselves_o will_v not_o interpret_v when_o our_o supposition_n that_o the_o lawmaker_n mean_v proper_o as_o they_o speak_v be_v take_v to_o deserve_v scorn_n silence_v etc._n etc._n from_o they_o that_o will_v not_o expound_v their_o word_n to_o we_o judgement_n of_o nonconformist_n in_o second_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 116_o 117._o and_o see_v as_o those_o worthy_a conformist_n must_v grant_v that_o if_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n be_v proper_o to_o be_v understand_v and_o not_o with_o their_o limitation_n than_o the_o conformist_n be_v in_o the_o wrong_n and_o the_o nonconformist_n in_o the_o right_a
judgement_n and_o the_o untruth_n of_o what_o they_o have_v believe_v of_o we_o ibid._n p._n 85._o and_o whether_o we_o may_v not_o suppose_v that_o satan_n be_v afraid_a of_o their_o ministry_n who_o have_v stir_v up_o so_o much_o opposition_n against_o it_o sacril_n desert_n p._n 84._o q._n 64._o whether_o popery_n will_v come_v in_o ever_o the_o more_o for_o nonconformist's_a preach_v whether_o such_o will_v preach_v for_o or_o against_o it_o or_o ever_o the_o â—ss_n if_o they_o renounce_v their_o ministry_n ibid._n p._n 82._o whether_o they_o that_o cry_v out_o of_o the_o danger_n of_o popery_n infidelity_n profaneness_n and_o heresy_n and_o yet_o have_v rather_o let_v they_o all_o in_o then_o give_v we_o leave_v to_o exercise_v that_o ministry_n to_o which_o we_o be_v consecrate_v in_o poverty_n and_o subjection_n and_o while_o they_o cry_v out_o of_o division_n will_v not_o lay_v by_o the_o divide_v engine_n shall_v rather_o accuse_v we_o or_o themselves_o if_o the_o evil_n overwhelm_v we_o which_o they_o seem_v to_o fear_v ibid._n p._n 137_o 138._o q._n 65._o when_o any_o be_v unjust_o cast_v out_o of_o their_o parish-church_n whether_o all_o minister_n be_v thereupon_o oblige_v or_o allow_v to_o desert_n or_o neglect_v they_o ib._n p._n 21._o q._n 66._o if_o a_o patient_n will_v not_o take_v a_o medicine_n from_o one_o man_n hand_n whether_o will_v not_o the_o physician_n consent_n that_o another_o shall_v give_v it_o he_o whether_o will_v the_o father_n let_v the_o infant_n famish_v if_o it_o will_v take_v food_n from_o none_o but_o its_o mother_n and_o whether_o will_v there_o be_v need_n of_o the_o best_a conformist_n as_o minister_n if_o the_o people_n have_v no_o fault_n or_o weakness_n ibid._n p._n 125_o 126._o what_o if_o they_o culpable_o will_v hear_v no_o other_o be_v it_o better_a to_o let_v they_o hear_v none_o at_o all_o than_o that_o we_o preach_v to_o they_o answ._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 59_o or_o 61._o q._n 67._o whether_o it_o be_v not_o one_o thing_n to_o deny_v total_a communion_n with_o a_o church_n and_o another_o to_o separate_v but_o secundum_fw-la quid_fw-la for_o some_o act_n or_o part_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o one_o thing_n to_o separate_v local_o by_o bodily_a absence_n and_o another_o mental_o by_o schismatical_a principle_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o one_o thing_n to_o depart_v wilful_o and_o another_o to_o be_v unwilling_o cast_v out_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o one_o thing_n to_o depart_v rash_o and_o in_o haste_n and_o another_o to_o depart_v after_o due_a patience_n when_o reformation_n appear_v hopeless_a first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 38_o 39_o q._n 68_o when_o the_o public_a good_a require_v nonconformist_n to_o hold_v distinct_a assembly_n for_o assistance_n in_o doctrine_n worship_n and_o discipline_n as_o near_o as_o they_o can_v according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n to_o further_o not_o to_o disgrace_v or_o hinder_v the_o honest_a parish-minister_n whether_o be_v these_o separate_a church_n any_o more_o than_o chapel_n be_v or_o distinct_a church_n more_o than_o secundum_fw-la quid_fw-la hold_v personal_a communion_n in_o a_o godly_a conversation_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o christian_n in_o the_o parish_n and_o also_o sometime_o assemble_v with_o they_o sacril_n desert_n p._n 22_o 23._o or_o whether_o those_o that_o do_v their_o best_a to_o keep_v up_o the_o reputation_n of_o the_o public_a conformable_a ministry_n to_o further_a love_n and_o concord_n and_o the_o success_n of_o their_o labour_n with_o the_o people_n and_o profess_v to_o take_v their_o own_o assembly_n but_o as_o chapel_n and_o not_o as_o distinct_a much_o less_o as_o separate_v church_n yea_o and_o those_o who_o do_v administer_v sacrament_n and_o do_v that_o which_o be_v like_o the_o separatist_n way_n yet_o do_v it_o not_o on_o their_o principle_n but_o pro_fw-la tempore_fw-la till_o god_n shall_v give_v they_o opportunity_n to_o serve_v he_o in_o the_o establish_a way_n it_o be_v reform_v or_o well-ordered_a parish-church_n under_o the_o government_n and_o countenance_n of_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n which_o be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o their_o desire_n whether_o such_o i_o say_v be_v just_o account_v separatist_n first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 246._o q._n 69._o whether_o we_o may_v not_o set_v up_o other_o church_n when_o we_o be_v necessary_o keep_v from_o those_o establish_v by_o public_a power_n ib._n p._n 77._o q._n 70._o whether_o it_o be_v schism_n to_o preach_v and_o gather_v church_n and_o elect_v and_o ordain_v pastor_n and_o assemble_v for_o god_n worship_n against_o the_o law_n and_o will_n of_o heathen_a mahometan_n or_o infidel_n prince_n that_o forbid_v it_o as_o the_o christian_n do_v for_o 300_o year_n and_o if_o there_o be_v the_o same_o cause_n and_o need_n whether_o it_o be_v any_o more_o schism_n to_o do_v it_o against_o the_o law_n and_o will_n of_o a_o christian_a prince_n for_o 1._o be_v not_o christ_n law_n equal_o obligatory_a 2._o be_v not_o soul_n equal_o precious_a 3._o be_v not_o the_o gospel_n and_o god_n worship_n equal_o necessary_a 4._o and_o do_v his_o christianity_n enable_v he_o to_o do_v more_o hurt_v than_o a_o pagan_a may_v do_v or_o more_o good_a ibid._n p._n 51_o 52._o q._n 71._o if_o competent_a pastor_n be_v set_v over_o half_a the_o parish_n in_o a_o kingdom_n and_o the_o other_o half_o have_v incompetent_a man_n or_o if_o nine_o part_n of_o a_o kingdom_n be_v competent_o supply_v and_o but_o the_o ten_o part_n have_v not_o such_o set_n over_o they_o to_o who_o the_o people_n may_v lawful_o commit_v the_o pastoral_n care_n of_o their_o soul_n whether_o be_v it_o schism_n or_o whether_o be_v it_o not_o a_o duty_n for_o those_o that_o be_v destitute_a to_o get_v the_o best_a supply_n they_o can_v and_o whether_o be_v it_o schism_n or_o whether_o be_v it_o not_o a_o duty_n for_o faithful_a minister_n though_o forbid_v by_o superior_n to_o perform_v their_o office_n to_o such_o people_n that_o desire_v it_o ibid._n p._n 83._o if_o the_o magistrate_n appoint_v 20000_o or_o 10000_o or_o one_o half_a of_o a_o parish_n to_o be_v exclude_v for_o want_n of_o room_n and_o teacher_n be_v it_o not_o ill_o suppose_v that_o the_o gospel_n be_v true_o and_o sufficient_o preach_v to_o they_o to_o who_o it_o be_v not_o preach_v at_o all_o or_o do_v it_o prove_v it_o not_o necessary_a to_o they_o that_o it_o be_v preach_v to_o other_o ans._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 22._o and_o whether_o be_v not_o the_o general_a ordination_n of_o minister_n with_o the_o people_n necessity_n and_o consent_n add_v to_o god_n general_n command_v to_o all_o his_o minister_n to_o be_v faithful_a and_o diligent_a a_o sufficient_a oblige_a call_n to_o such_o ministration_n without_o the_o will_n of_o prohibit_v superior_n yea_o against_o it_o and_o otherwise_o do_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v at_o the_o will_n of_o a_o man_n whether_o soul_n shall_v be_v save_v or_o damn_v for_o how_o shall_v they_o believe_v unless_o they_o hear_v and_o how_o shall_v they_o hear_v without_o a_o preacher_n and_o at_o the_o will_n of_o man_n whether_o christ_n shall_v have_v a_o church_n and_o god_n be_v public_o worship_v or_o not_o first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 48._o and_o whether_o do_v not_o the_o indispensible_a law_n of_o nature_n oblige_v every_o man_n according_a to_o his_o place_n and_o call_v his_o ability_n and_o opportunity_n to_o do_v his_o best_a to_o propagate_v christ_n gospel_n and_o to_o save_v man_n soul_n as_o much_o and_o more_o than_o to_o feed_v man_n body_n and_o save_v their_o life_n and_o whether_o be_v not_o minister_n special_o oblige_v to_o do_v it_o by_o their_o call_v as_o minister_n of_o christ_n thereto_o devote_v ibid._n q._n 72._o there_o be_v so_o many_o sort_n of_o church_n in_o the_o world_n as_o universal_a national_a patriarchal_a provincial_a or_o metropolitical_a diocesan_n classical_a parochial_a congregational_a whether_o must_v it_o not_o be_v hard_a to_o give_v a_o just_a decision_n of_o the_o question_n from_o which_o of_o these_o and_o when_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o separate_v till_o it_o be_v first_o know_v which_o of_o those_o be_v of_o divine_a and_o which_o of_o humane_a institution_n and_o which_o humane_a church_n be_v necessary_a which_o lawful_a and_o which_o sinful_a ibid._n p._n 7._o how_o be_v it_o prove_v and_o how_o come_v it_o to_o be_v any_o great_a matter_n to_o separate_v from_o a_o church-â—orm_a which_o god_n never_o make_v answ._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 33._o q._n 73._o whether_o they_o that_o say_v those_o species_n national_a patriarchal_a provincial_a diocesan_n be_v of_o god_n must_v not_o prove_v that_o god_n institute_v they_o in_o scripture_n or_o else_o that_o he_o give_v some_o man_n power_n to_o institute_v they_o since_o scripture-time_n and_o till_o the_o same_o be_v prove_v
teach_v not_o heresy_n nor_o preach_v down_o holiness_n etc._n etc._n and_o deny_v we_o not_o their_o communion_n unless_o we_o will_v sin_v or_o a_o conformist_n that_o will_v hold_v communion_n with_o none_o but_o his_o own_o party_n but_o separate_v from_o all_o other_o church_n in_o the_o land_n ib._n p._n 41._o be_v he_o a_o great_a separatist_n that_o confess_v they_o to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o their_o communion_n lawful_a but_o prefer_v another_o as_o fit_a for_o he_o or_o he_o that_o deny_v communion_n with_o true_a worship_v assembly_n as_o unlawful_a to_o be_v communicate_v with_o when_o it_o be_v not_o so_o if_o the_o former_a then_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o condemn_v they_o as_o no_o church_n be_v a_o diminution_n or_o no_o aggravation_n of_o separation_n and_o the_o local_a presence_n of_o a_o infidel_n or_o scorner_n will_v be_v a_o less_o separate_a state_n than_o the_o absence_n of_o their_o friend_n if_o the_o latter_a which_o be_v certain_a then_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o if_o we_o can_v prove_v the_o assembly_n lawful_a which_o they_o condemn_v they_o be_v the_o true_a separatist_n that_o condemn_v they_o and_o deny_v communion_n with_o they_o declare_v it_o unlawful_a answ._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 47_o or_o 49._o q._n 80._o and_o whether_o be_v not_o the_o separation_n of_o whole_a church_n much_o worse_o than_o of_o single_a person_n from_o one_o church_n when_o it_o be_v upon_o unwarrantable_a cause_n or_o reason_n ib._n p._n 31._o now_o how_o many_o of_o the_o dissenter_n frequent_o communicate_v with_o they_o while_o they_o general_o refuse_v shun_v and_o condemn_v our_o assembly_n be_v there_o no_o true_a church_n to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o world_n that_o have_v no_o bishop_n of_o a_o superior_a order_n over_o pastor_n and_o be_v there_o not_o true_a church_n in_o england_n in_o that_o long_a interval_n of_o episcopal_a government_n and_o be_v not_o they_o as_o just_o to_o be_v charge_v with_o schism_n and_o separation_n from_o those_o true_a church_n which_o be_v before_o the_o re-establishment_n of_o episcopacy_n as_o they_o that_o be_v common_o charge_v by_o those_o encroacher_n and_o invader_n of_o other_o man_n right_n vid._n sacril_n desert_n p._n 60._o q._n 81._o see_v the_o universal_a church_n be_v certain_o the_o high_a species_n whether_o have_v any_o authority_n on_o pretence_n of_o narrow_a communion_n in_o low_a church_n to_o change_v christ_n term_n of_o catholic_n communion_n or_o to_o deprive_v christian_n of_o the_o right_n of_o be_v love_v and_o receive_v by_o each_o other_o or_o to_o disoblige_v they_o from_o the_o duty_n of_o love_v and_o receive_v each_o other_o whether_o can_v humane_a power_n make_v by_o their_o own_o contract_n change_n christ_n law_n or_o the_o privilege_n or_o form_n of_o christ_n own_o church_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 111._o §_o 14._o q._n 82._o whether_o the_o great_a and_o common_a schism_n be_v not_o by_o divide_v law_n and_o canon_n which_o causless_o silence_n minister_n scatter_v flock_n and_o decree_v the_o unjust_a excommunication_n of_o christian_n and_o deny_v communion_n to_o those_o that_o yield_v not_o to_o sinful_a or_o unnecessary_a ill-made_a term_n of_o communion_n ibid._n three_o part_n p._n 13._o §_o 43._o and_o if_o any_o proud_a passionate_a or_o erroneous_a person_n do_v as_o diothrephes_n cast_v out_o the_o brethren_n undeserved_o by_o unjust_a suspension_n silencing_n or_o excommunication_n whether_o this_o be_v not_o tyrannical_a schism_n first_o plea_n &c_n &c_n p._n 41._o and_o as_o we_o say_v of_o the_o papist_n that_o they_o unjust_o call_v those_o man_n schismatic_n who_o they_o first_o cast_v out_o themselves_o by_o unjust_a excommunication_n may_v we_o not_o say_v so_o of_o any_o other_o especial_o if_o either_o for_o that_o which_o be_v a_o duty_n or_o for_o some_o small_a mistake_n which_o be_v not_o in_o the_o person_n power_n to_o rectify_v no_o great_a than_o most_o good_a christian_n be_v guilty_a of_o their_o church-law_n say_v he_o shall_v be_v excommunicate_a ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la ibid._n p._n 104._o see_v also_o answ._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 47._o or_o 49._o §_o 8._o q._n 83._o whether_o make_v sinful_a term_n of_o communion_n impose_v thing_n forbid_v by_o god_n on_o those_o that_o will_v have_v communion_n with_o they_o and_o expel_v those_o that_o will_v not_o so_o sin_n whether_o this_o be_v not_o heinous_a schism_n first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 41_o 42._o q._n 84._o whether_o all_o those_o will_v not_o be_v deep_o guilty_a of_o such_o schism_n who_o by_o talk_n write_v or_o preach_v justify_v and_o cry_v it_o up_o and_o draw_v other_o into_o the_o gild_n and_o reproach_v the_o innocent_a as_o schismatic_n for_o not_o offend_v god_n ib._n q._n 85._o if_o any_o will_v confine_v the_o power_n or_o exercise_n of_o the_o church-key_n into_o so_o few_o hand_n as_o shall_v make_v the_o exercise_n of_o christ_n discipline_n impossible_a or_o shall_v make_v church_n so_o great_a or_o pastor_n so_o few_o as_o that_o the_o most_o of_o the_o people_n must_v needs_o be_v without_o pastoral_a oversight_n teach_v and_o public_a worship_n and_o then_o will_v forbid_v those_o people_n to_o commit_v the_o care_n of_o their_o soul_n to_o any_o other_o that_o will_v be_v pastor_n indeed_o and_o so_o will_v compel_v they_o to_o live_v without_o christ_n ordinance_n true_a church-communion_n and_o pastoral_n help_v whether_o this_o will_v not_o be_v schismatical_a and_o much_o worse_o ib._n p._n 44._o q._n 86._o when_o able_a faithful_a pastor_n be_v lawful_o sâ—t_v over_o the_o assembly_n by_o just_a election_n and_o ordination_n if_o any_o will_v causless_o and_o without_o right_a silence_n they_o and_o command_v the_o people_n to_o desert_v they_o and_o to_o take_v to_o other_o for_o their_o pastor_n in_o their_o stead_n oâ—_n who_o they_o have_v no_o such_o knowledge_n as_o may_v encourage_v they_o to_o such_o a_o change_n whether_o this_o can_v be_v defend_v from_o the_o charge_n of_o schism_n as_o cyprian_a in_o the_o case_n of_o novatian_n say_v that_o he_o can_v be_v no_o bishop_n because_o another_o be_v rightful_a bishop_n before_o â—_o ib._n p._n 49_o 50._o q._n 87._o whether_o the_o way_n to_o heal_v we_o be_v not_o 1._o to_o approve_v the_o best_a 2._o to_o tolerate_v the_o tolerable_a 3._o to_o have_v sacrament_n free_a and_o not_o force_v 4._o to_o restrain_v the_o intolerable_a 5._o this_o to_o be_v the_o test_n of_o toleration_n whether_o such_o tolerate_a worship_n do_v more_o good_a or_o hurt_n in_o true_a impartial_a judgement_n 6._o magistrate_n keep_v all_o in_o peace_n way_n of_o concord_n three_o part_n p._n 144._o q._n 88_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o a_o weaken_n of_o the_o king_n interest_n to_o divide_v his_o subject_n and_o build_v up_o unnecessary_a wall_n of_o partition_n between_o they_o and_o to_o keep_v they_o in_o such_o division_n see_v a_o kingdom_n divide_v against_o itself_o can_v stand_v and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o unsafe_a and_o uncomfortable_a to_o a_o prince_n to_o rule_v a_o divide_a mutinous_a people_n but_o sweet_a and_o safe_a to_o rule_v they_o that_o be_v unite_v in_o mutual_a love_n whether_o they_o that_o will_v lay_v the_o people_n concord_n upon_o uncapable_a term_n will_v not_o bring_v the_o king_n interest_n in_o his_o people_n love_n and_o willing_a obedience_n and_o ready_a defence_n of_o he_o into_o too_o narrow_a a_o bottom_n make_v he_o the_o king_n of_o some_o causless_o divide_v and_o espouse_a party_n which_o must_v be_v set_v up_o to_o the_o oppression_n of_o all_o the_o rest_n who_o be_v as_o wise_a and_o just_a and_o loyal_a as_o they_o second_v plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 76._o §_o 24._o si_fw-mi in_o necessariis_fw-la sit_fw-la vnitas_fw-la in_o non-necessariis_a libertas_n in_o uâ—risque_fw-la charitas_fw-la optimo_fw-la certe_fw-la loco_fw-la essent_fw-la res_fw-la nostrae_fw-la to_o make_v a_o round_a number_n i_o may_v add_v from_o mr._n m._n godwyn_n his_o negro_n and_o indian_n advocate_n plead_v for_o the_o instruct_v of_o they_o and_o so_o admit_v they_o into_o the_o church_n a_o book_n late_o print_v and_o dedicate_v to_o the_o arch_a bishop_n of_o canterbury_n q._n 89._o whether_o be_v the_o wilful_a neglect_v and_o oppose_v of_o it_o as_o he_o say_v in_o the_o title-page_n no_o less_o than_o a_o manifest_a apostasy_n from_o the_o christian_a faith_n can_v no_o christian_n ever_o justify_v his_o omit_v any_o possible_a lawful_a mean_n for_o the_o advancement_n of_o his_o religion_n as_o he_o say_v p._n 91._o be_v all_o profess_a christian_n absolute_o bounâ—_n in_o their_o place_n to_o endeavour_v the_o same_o by_o their_o vow_n in_o baptism_n and_o their_o very_a profession_n q._n 90._o then_o be_v they_o not_o bind_v in_o their_o place_n to_o endeavour_v the_o advancement_n of_o religion_n as_o well_o at_o home_n as_o abroad_o and_o do_v they_o not_o owe_v as_o much_o service_n herein_o for_o christ_n sake_n towards_o their_o own_o countryman_n as_o towards_o stranger_n shall_v not_o englishman_n be_v as_o well_o concern_v for_o englishman_n as_o for_o indian_n and_o when_o the_o state_n of_o religion_n be_v so_o visible_o decline_v in_o england_n atheism_n ignorance_n error_n profaneness_n popery_n and_o superstition_n increase_a and_o get_v up_o so_o fast_o among_o we_o be_v he_o for_o any_o great_a advancement_n of_o religion_n that_o will_v send_v away_o all_o nonconformist_n if_o there_o be_v thousand_o of_o they_o to_o his_o negro_n and_o indian_n for_o this_o wise_a reason_n that_o there_o be_v no_o want_n of_o their_o labour_n at_o home_n finis_fw-la advertisement_n the_o reader_n be_v desire_v to_o take_v notice_n that_o these_o paper_n be_v send_v to_o london_n by_o the_o author_n on_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o february_n or_o beginning_n of_o march_n last_o but_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o multitude_n of_o pamphlet_n they_o can_v not_o get_v through_o the_o press_n soon_o the_o ingenuous_a reader_n be_v â—â—so_o desire_v to_o pass_v by_o the_o errata_fw-la the_o author_n be_v remote_a from_o the_o press_n these_o few_o he_o have_v observe_v in_o some_o of_o the_o sheet_n he_o have_v see_v viz._n errata_fw-la page_n 5._o l._n 6_o r._n above_o p._n 20_o l._n 24._o r._n do_v you_o not_o p._n 21._o l._n 12._o r._n wages_n p._n 22._o l._n 22._o r._n contrariwise_o p._n 23._o l._n 24._o r._n and._n p._n 24._o l._n 18._o deal_n down_o p._n 28._o l._n 1._o r._n triarios_fw-la p._n 57_o l._n 6._o r._n single-soaled_a p._n 62._o l._n 29._o r._n excite_v great_a p._n 63._o l._n 24._o r._n church_n p._n 70._o l._n 30._o r._n inobedientia_fw-la p._n 72._o l._n 19_o 20._o r._n betray_v p._n 81._o l._n 35._o r._n for_o p._n 83._o l._n 36_o r._n do_v he_o at_o all_o