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A90932 The preacher sent: or, A vindication of the liberty of publick preaching, by some men not ordained. In answer to two books: 1. Jus divinum ministerii euengelici. By the Provincial Assembly of London. 2. VindiciƦ ministerii euangelici. By Mr. John Collings of Norwich. / Published by Iohn Martin, minister of the Gospel at Edgfield in Norfolk. Sam. Petto, minister of the Gospel at Sand-croft in Suffolk. Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Martin, John, 1595 or 6-1659.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1658 (1658) Wing P3197; Thomason E1592_2; ESTC R208851 240,824 381

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