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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A28912	Innocency cleared from lyes in answer or reply to some particular things, which them, who are scornfully called Quakers, are charged with in a book intituled, Malice stript and whipt, &c. : published by one who calls himself Samuel Smith, minster of the gospel, but his practise and bitter spirit maketh him manifest to be forth of the Doctrine of Christ, and that he is not guided by the same spirit which the ministers of Christ were, are guided by as hereafter may be made appear / by ... I.B.	J. B. (John Bowater), d. 1704.	1658 (1658)	Wing B3870; ESTC R18765	14,367	26

was Magistrate therein calling him Iudge and the Court a Court of Iustice and honouring them in the Lord which is as much as the Scripture commands saying Children obey your Parents in the Lord but thou saith neither putting off the Hat nor bowing before him which the fifth Commandement commands to which I say it is well if thou have not belyed the Commandement for I never could finde any such command in the fifth Commandement as the putting off the Hat or bowing but this I am sure is in the second Commandement thou shalt not bow down thy self and I doe beleeve there is no confusion in the Commandements but rather it is in thee as in this thing it doth plainly appear and then thou states a question or an objection which is in these words But where doe you finde a command for putting off the Hat unto which I say it had been wisdom for thee before thou hadst stated this question to have considered whether thou couldest have given a sufficient answer to this queston yea of nay but it may be thou didst not so but did even like a foolish man that begins to build and considers not whether he is able to finish or not but to say something to it being thou hast layd it down thou saith what though we read not of a Hat c. and herein thou hath not proved there is any command for putting off the Hat but hath shewed thy ignorance of the Scripture in saying what though we read not of a Hat but thou may read of Hats in Dan. 3.21 then these men were bound in their Coats their Hosen and their Hats it might be that their Hats were not taken off their heads when they were before Nebuchadnezar the King and the most mighty men in his Army seeing they were bound in them and if they were not taken off doe not they then that require them to be put off and fine men for keeping them on in that thing exceed Nebuchadnezar Narration But is not he who is our accuser out of the said doctrine of Iesus Christ is not he called Master doth not he stand praying in the Synagogues hath he not the chief seat in the assembly doth not he take hire c. Smith Here is a bundle of accusations bound up together c. Reply Why dost thou lye doe they here accuse thee but rather by way of question they aske thee or any that will answer for thee Ezek. 22 25 26.28 whether these things be not so but it seems if they had accused thee it had not been falsly for thou saith I am called a Master and to defend thy self in thy so doing thou shifts with Backsters words and thou calls him Master but it were more for thy credit and his too to have gone to Christs words seeing you pretend to be his Ministers but this it seems you dare not doe knowing full well that his words is against your practise Mat. 23.10 who saith neither be ye called Masters for one is your Master even Christ and so ye make the Scripture of none effect to keep your own traditions as standing praying and such like to which Christ saith when thou prayest thou shall not he as the hypocrites are for they love to stand praying in the Synaegogues Mat. 6.5 and if you doe not love it why doe you plead for it and for having the chiefest seat in the assembly for which thing the strongest argument that I see thee bring is this for some body must have these places and some of those upper rooms and seats which argument shews thy weakness and ignorance for if it were so that somebody must have them doth it therefore follow that the Ministers of Christ must have them seeing Christ said unto them in his doctrine beware of the Scribes which love to goe in long cloathing and love salutations in the market places and the chief seats in the Synagogues and the uppermost rooms at feasts Mark 12.38 39. and why is there so much pleading for these things if they doe not love them is it not a great sign that a man loves the thing he pleads for unless he be a great dissembler Narration Doth he not take hire Smith This is the great quarell of all that they have against us and further saith to pull down the Ministry of the word and this must needs take with the vulgar sort of people that know little of God and the ways of godliness c. Reply Why what will the Ministry of the word fall Isaiah 56 10 11. if hire be taken away is that the foundation upon which it stands the Prophets of the Lord cryed against such as sought for their gaine from their quarter and teach for hire read the third Chapter of Micha and see what the Lord saith concerning the Priests that teach for hire and Prophets that made his people erre they bite with their teeth and cry peace and he that putteth not into their mouths they even prepare war against him and yet I doe beleeve the Prophets of the Lord did not pull down the Ministry of the word but it seems by this argument that if hire were taken away the Ministry will down which if it be so Isaiah 55.2 it makes it plainly appear you teach for hire though you would make the people beleive otherwise but if they keep their tythe or mony from you it is possible you may prepare war against them and then they may know your nature to be as Christ saith inwardly ravening wolves and wheras thou saith this must needs take with the vulgar sort of people who know little of God and the ways of godliness this may stand to the shame of thee and thy Brethren do the people know little of the ways of God and godliness what have you taken hire for nothing all this while it is good for the people to consider of these things least they spend their mony for that which is not Bread and their labour for that which satisfies not and thou speaking of them thou calls Quakers saith the same and substance of their prating as thou calls it was we preach unto you the word of the Lord freely and this I beleeve was thy greatest torment that any should preach the word of the Lord freely as they had received it or else why speaks thou against it and caused him to be pulled down that preached and for the Scriptures thou alledges them I doe own and the maintenance they doe allow Ministers as that thou alledges in Mat. 10.10 which saith the workman is worthy of his meat and I desire people to read that Chapter for their further satisfaction Narration He hath accused us that we disturbed him and hath not proved it Smith This was answered to your shame before Reply Nay not to their shame but to thine for thou hast proved in thy own book that it was by the Ministers directions their speaker was pulled down and so proved thy self

INNOCENCY CLEARED FROM LYES IN In answer or reply to some particular things which them who are scornfully called Quakers are charged with in a book intituled Malice stript and whipt c. Published by one who calls himself Samuell Smith Minister of the Gospel but his practise and bitter spirit maketh him manifest to be forth of the Doctrine of Christ and that he is not guided by the same spirit which the Ministers of Christ were and are guided by as hereafter may be made appear Thus saith the Lord God because you have spoken vanity and seen lyes therefore behold I am against you saith the Lord God because with lyes ye have made the heart of the righteous sad whom I have not made sad and strengthned the hands of the wicked that he should not return from his wicked way by promising him life therefore ye shall see no more vanity nor divine divinations for I will deliver my people out of your hand and ye shall know that I am the Lord Ezek. 13.8.22 23. By one who desires that all men might come to do as they would be done unto I. B. London Printed for Thomas Simmons at the Bull and Mouth neer Aldersgate 1658. To the sober Reader THis book or paper coming to my hands published by a pretended Minister of the Gospel wherein he pretends an examination of a late scandalous paper as he calls it published by certain Quakers now in the Gaol of Salop which paper I have seen and doe see he accuses the aforesaid men falsly as touching lyes and untruths and of bidding open defiance to Magistracy and Ministry to the making their names odious amongst men which they were worthy to bear if it were truth which he speaks and therefore I shall try his book intituled Malice stript and whipt c. in the things which most concern them that so thou who reads this and all sober minded men who hear it may iudge whether he be not a false accuser of them and of a bitter spirit yea or nay for this cause and that he may be a shamed of his folly these things following I write INNOCENCIE CLEARED from Lyes c. IT hath been commonly the practise of persecutors and enemies to the people of God but especially of the Priests Psa 37.12 to take away the good name of those they did envy and give unto them reproachfull names as this blasphemer sower of sedition ring-leader of Sects Hereticks Acts 16.19 20.21 Acts 22.22 23. and the like that so they might incense the Rulers and people against them to take away their lives which was the end they sought for witness what they called our Lord and Master Christ Iesus read Mark 14 63 64. And also what they said of Paul see Acts 24.5 6. and that the men in our generation Io. 8 48. Mat. 7.14 who are enemies to the Lords people may not come short but as far as their power reaches shew what spirit they are of that men may know their nature let us see what this pretended Minister saith concerning the book he examins Smith Saith not a book to be chained but let flying full of falshood lyes and untruths fit for the Devils patronage and further he saith and that which is more strange in a time of Parliament sitting bidding open defiance to Magistracy and Ministry c. Answer If these things which he here saith were true the condition of these men were to be lamented who published this book which he examines but I am sure if he had examined it with a single eye and without prejudice If the Magistrates would take this mans word without examination might not they become guilty of innocent blood he durst not have spoken these things saying it is full of lyes and untruths as though there were no truth in it and to incense the Magistrates against these men which is the thing he ayms at he saith bidding open defiance to Magistracy and Ministry but I beleeve it is good for the Magistrates to take heed how they beleeve such men as this Smith least they should punish the innocent to satisfie his will he hath heapt up a deal of accusations which sober minded men will see turne to his own shame for if he examine the book which he mentions all the days of his life he is not able out of it to prove the things he hath accused these men with which if he cannot prove must not he then of necessity be a false accuser and therefore if he take in hand to examine books it is best for him the next time to say no more than he is able to prove Smith Saith in his book William Baret Constable and Humfry Dale Church-warden according to the Ministers directions pulled down their speaker charging some to secure him and others also of their company were secured c. Answer Was ever the like heard of that a Minister of the Gospel as he pretends should give such directions as this and is not ashamed to publish it to the world but this will make his name to be known and also his nature that all honest men may take heed how they ioyn with him in persecuting the innocent let us reason with him a little he confesses he being acquainted with their damnable Tenents he indeavoured to discover them and to warn his people of them this being made known to them which he calls Quakers as he saith they gave it out they intended to preach at Cressag c. now this I say if he had spoken against this people Read 2 Tim. 2.24 25 26. verses 2 Cor. 6.3 4 5 6. And see how a servant of the Lotdor Minister should be qualified as it is likely by his words he had then it was but very equall and reasonable when they came so near him and that to preach too if he had come to them in the spirit of meekness being he pretends to be a Minister of the Gospel to have seen if he could have convinced them of any errour or damnable tenent before the people that so they might have been ashamed of it but it seems this he did not but to his own shame instead of doing so he hearing of their coming to preach at Gressag sent for the Constables and acquainted them therewith desiring them if they came to see the keeping of the peace and this was six weeks before to which I say the keeping of the peace is that which we desire and it is the office of Rulers to see the peace kept and to punish them that break the peace but though he had made it so sure of his side yet he came not to them to disprove their doctrine which had been a fit opportunity for him to have tryed if he could have disproved them seeing he had spoken against them in his publick Ministry it may be behinde their backs and so it had been but a reasonable thing to have maintained it to their faces but instead