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A35917 A Dialogue betwixt Sam. the ferriman of Dochet, Will. a waterman of London, and Tom. a bargeman of Oxford upon the Kings calling a parliament to meet at Oxford. 1681 (1681) Wing D1353; ESTC R29722 21,830 32

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much decay'd and had need of repairing and it will never be done but by a Parliament I was at Vxbridge last Saboath-day and there at the Meeting the Minister said That the best Church in the World should be repaired once in a hundred years and that the Church we now have was repaired but he had another Word for it about a Hundred and Forty or Fifty years since Tom. Was it not Reformed the Scholars at Oxford talk much of that Reformation Sam. Ay Ay it was Reformed that he said and that the Church but more especlally the Church-men should be Reform'd Will. Besides this Member told me the Parsons must use the Surplice no more Sam. That was only for the good of the Woollen Manufacture I carried a Clothier over the Ferry not long since that said they were hereafter to wear Flannel Surplices and the Bishops were to wear white Crape in stead of Lawn Sleeves Will. And then for the Bishops Courts that as we call the Bawdy-Court they would have mauled those Rogues to some purpose Tom. A Pox on 'em they made me pay above five Pounds about a Bastard a Whore laid to me that a Scholar of Oxford got I dare say for I kept reckning and the Child was got when I was gone down with the Barge to London and for want of a Flash we lay above ten Weeks before we came again Will. It seems thou diserved'st for it however Tom. That which troubled me most was that I must have done Penance in a White Sheet and then my Wife and all my Friends would have known it and so faith I was forced to borrow the Moneys and make my Peace with them And after all they would have had Ten Shillings more for a piece of Parchment no bigger than my Hand I was e'en glad to pay them a Noble to get clear of them Will. As far as I could understand they would have taken these Courts away and have made the Bishops spoor Gentlemen They would have clipt their Wings if not quite staved them O this Member as we passed by Lambath-House shaked his Head at it and said There were Raggs of Popery kept there and so did he at Eulhum when I landed him at Putney Sam. What did he mean by that Will. Why the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury lives at Lambeth and the Bishop of London hath a Countrey-House at Fulham Sam. Well but Will. Thou said'st they would also have had a Fling at the Law Will. For any thing of the Law it self I heard not so much of it but they were in hand to have rockoned with almost all the Judges in Westminster Hall some for one Fault and some for others Sam. What had the Judges done Will. Whether they had strained a Pin to do something extraordinary for the King and the Court I know not but the main matter was that most of the Talkative Men of the House were Lawyers and the only way for them to get Preferment was by turning out of the Judges that they might get into their Places Sam. I think in my very Conscience these Lawyers are the Bain of the Kingdom For they are so accustomed to talk against their Consciences for Moneys at Westminster Hall that when they come to talk in the House it is the same thing So that whatever they think for their Advantage they never want broad Consciences nor smooth Tongues to drive on to the utmost Sam. Pray thee Will. tell me one thing are not these Lawyers the Men that either doe or should understand the Law Will. No doubt of it Sam. Well then when the Rebellion was begun and carried on in our King's Father's Time and in his own did not the Lawyers know that the War was contrary to the Law Will. Certainly they did Sam. Then do I say That as many Lawyers as Sided with the Rebells in those days deserve yet to be Hanged for what they did then Will. O! but they were wise enough for that For they got the Act of Oblivion to pardon not only their Faults by-passed but those that were to come and abundance of those very Men that talked the People into that Rebellion are yet living and as willing to do Mischief as ever they were Sam. It goes beyond my Understanding how and why they are admitted to abuse the People at this rate For if they can set poor ignorant Men on a Mischief for which they may be Hanged and can talk themselves off again it is time for poor men to have a Care Will. I am of this mind that had I been the King's Advisar when he forgave all the Rebells I would not have forgiven one Lawyer for they could not plead Ignorance Sam. And that it was a Rebellion is clear For if it had not been what need was there of an Act of Oblivion Will. Thou art in the Right of that too Sam. Nothing troubles me so much as that these Lawyers are not only Lawyers to follow and maintain the Law but they can make what they will to be Law and what they like not to be no Law Nay they will hang the Honestest man in England and find Law for it and save the greatest Knave and find Law for that too Tom. Did not Judge Bradshaw pronounce Sentence against King Charles and Coke plead against him And both these were great Lawyers Nay an a bungling Lawyer that is a Justice of the Peace at the Quarter Sessions will take upon him to talk more than all the Bench and be very angry at any Justice that dares oppose any thing he says Will. There is reason for that For there is not one Lawyer of twenty but is certainly bribed tho' they call it feed of one Party in all Controversies at the Sessions and frequently by both O they make great Gains at a Sessions for there they are both Judge and Lawyer and all goes as they will Sam. I 'll tell thee for that I had a wrangling Quarrel once with a Drunken Fellow at the Ferry and upon some Words I up with the Boat-hook and broke his Head He went and fetched a Warrant for me I was advised to go my self to the same Justice being a Lawyer and bind my self over Which I did and would have given his Worship an Angel for so my Friend advised me He said he would take no Moneys upon that Account For indeed it seemed he had taken before from my Adversary but he said if I would give any thing to his Wife I might Upon which I sent a sat Wether worth a Mark in the Night time to her Worship and within two days both he and I were sent for before Mr. Justice and after he had talked a great deal of Law and seemed angry with us both he made us good friends and got both our Moneys Will. There may a thousand Stories be told of them I hope at one time both the King and the Kingdom will see what they are and never let them have more to do than with