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A10197 A quench-coale. Or A briefe disquisition and inquirie, in vvhat place of the church or chancell the Lords-table ought to be situated, especially vvhen the Sacrament is administered? VVherein is evidently proved, that the Lords-table ought to be placed in the midst of the church, chancell, or quire north and south, not altar-wise, with one side against the wall: that it neither is nor ought to be stiled an altar; that Christians have no other altar but Christ alone, who hath abolished all other altars, which are either heathenish, Jewish, or popish, and not tollerable among Christians. All the pretences, authorities, arguments of Mr. Richard Shelford, Edmond Reeve, Dr. John Pocklington, and a late Coale from the altar, to the contrary in defence of altars, calling the Lords-table an altar, or placing it altarwise, are here likewise fully answered and proved to be vaine or forged. By a well-wisher to the truth of God, and the Church of England. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1637 (1637) STC 20474; ESTC S101532 299,489 452

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as also the Holy things themselves they call by their proper names of signes Sacraments and not by the improper and borrowed speech of Sacrifice or host yea and if Altars were Lawfull yet could they argue no reall presence of the body of Christ upon them unlesse as they doe the bread so they will transubstantiate the dead bodyes of beastes into the body of Christ not then borne when those things were layd upon the Altar Neither hath Augustines Serm. de tempo 115. any thing thereof it hath of the keeping of the Feast of Hallowing of Altars which we suppose your selves doe not observe whereby it may well be doubted as of divers others of those Sermons whether it be Augustines or no especially seeing it giveth so High a commendation to Nebuchadnezzars testimony of Christ the Sonne of God Last of all let the good Reader understand that here in the Papists joyne with the Heathen which quarrelled with the Primative Churches that they had no Images Altars nor Temples whereunto agreeth that Sixtus Bishop of Rome was the first that erected Altars Also that Gerson affirmeth that Silvester Bishop of Rome was the first that caused Altars to be erected of stone whereupon it is also by another called a novelty to have Altars builded D. Willet in his Synopsis Papismi the 9. generall controversie Quaest. 6. part 2. Error 54. determines thus Altars we acknowledge none Altars we have none in our Churches S. Paul calleth it the Lords Table,1 Cor. 10. 21. where we receive the Sacrament of the body and blood of Christ. And he calleth it bread which is broken 1. Cor. 11. 26. But bread is sett upon Tables not sacrificed upon Altars Augustine also calleth it Mensam Domini the Lords table Epist. 59. Epist. 50. He shewing how cruelly the Donatists handled Maximi●ian a Catholike Bishop beating him with Clubs even in the Church lignis Altaris effractis immaniter ceciderunt wounded him with the wood of the Altar which they had broken downe where though he improperly call it an Altar yet was it a Communion Table framed of wood and made to be removed not fastened to the wall as their Popish Altars were Damascus Epistol 4. Let the Locall Bishops be content to minister as Preists and to be partakers only of the Lords Table he sayth the Lords Table not the Lords Altar To these I might adde M. Robert Crowlie his Confutation of Myles Hoggard London 1548. where he writes thus Mal. 1. 7. God complaineth of the Isralites that they had polluted him in that they sayd the Table of the Lord is but a vile thing What other thing I pray you doe your sacrificing Preists they cannot abide the Lords Table they must have an Altar Sacrifice They cannot be contented which the Communion at the Lords Table according to the first institution in honest apparell but they must have a private Masse in Masking Cotes dashed full of turnes and halfe turnes beckings duckinges crossinges kissinges tossings tumblings besides the unreverent breathing out of words upon bread wine the holding them up to be worshipped as Gods Also Bishop Jewell Bishop Hooper B. Ridley others in their forecited passages against Altars together with D. Rainold in his Conference with Hart p. 8. Divis. 4. Bishop Morton in his Protest appeale l. 2. c. 6. sect 2. p. 164. Francis de Croy his first Conformity c. 24. M. Peter Smart in his Sermon at Durham July 27. 1628. David Dickson his explination upon the Epistle to the Hebrewes 2. 7. v. 13. 14. p. 126. 127. and c. 13. v. 10. p. 317. 318. yea and the Statute of 3. Jacobi c 5. which authorizeth Justices of Peace Majors Bailifs other cheife Officers of Cities and Townes Corporate in their Liberties from time to time to search the houses and Lodgings of every Popish recusant convict for Popish Bookes and Reliques of Popery and that if any Altar Pix Beades Pictures or such like Popish Reliques or any Popish Booke or Bookes shall be found in their or any of their custody they shal be presently defaced and burnt which Act expresly defines Altars as well as Beades and Pictures to be meere Reliques of Popery fit to be demolished all which have with one unanimous voyce condemned Altars as Heathenish Jewish Popish abolished by Christs death contrary to his institution the practise of the Apostles and Primative Church and unmeet to be used or tollerated among Christians resolving likewise in expresse Termes that Communion Tables are no Altars nor yet to be so stiled And so by consequence not to be placed Altarwise as the objectors pretend they ought to be because they falsly stile and deeme them Altars If any here object First that Communion Tables are Altars because D. John Pocklington in his Sunday no Sabbath printed and reprinted with License under M. Brayes the Archbishop of Canterburies Chaplings owne hand London 1636. Edir 1. p. 43. averrs that the Table of the Lord is called an Altar 1. Cor. 8. 13. They that waite of the Altar are partakers of the Altar which is not to be understood of Israell after the flesh for habemus Altare we also under the Gosple have an Altar Heb. 15. 10. And because the late Coale from the Altar Concludes from Heb. 13. 10. that the Lords Table is an Altar and may be so tearmed To this I answer first that this great over confident Doctor shewes himselfe a very Ignoramus in the quotations If not a Papist in his expositions of both these Texts which it seemes he never looked on in the Bible for he quotes the 1. Cor. 8. 13. for c. 9. 13. Heb. 15. 10. for 13. 10. there being not 15. but only 13. Chapters in that Epistle and he who is so ignorant in the Scriptures as thus to misquote misprinte these texts no wonder if he mistake their proper sence and meaning 2. I answer that it is most cleare that the first Text of the two namly 1. Cor. 9. 13. Doe ye not know that they which Minister about holy things live of the things of the Temple and they which waite AT not of the Altar as he reades it are partakers with the Altar is meant only of the Aaronicall Preistes Levites and Iewish Altars not of Christs Ministers and Lords Tables First Because the things of the Temples and Altars which were placed in the body or Court of the Jewish temple there beeing no Altar in any of the Synagoges are here coupl●d together and the Text of Deut. 18. 1. quoted to it in the margent of our last translated English Bibles of purpose to confute this blind Doctor instruct all men that this Text is meant of the Aaronicall Preist Levites under the Law not of the Ministers under the Gosple as all Expositors whatsoever both old and new interpret it 2. Because the Apostle expresly resolves it so past all dispute in the next ensuing words v. 14. Even so hath the Lord
deride and flout us for our follies Apostasies miserable publike contradictions 7. Seventhly they open the mouthes of this Babilonish Crew and of forraigne and domesticke Papists to slaunder both our Church and Arch-Prelates as if shee and they with many other of our Prelates and Cleargie of chiefe note were now returning with the dogge to his vomit and the washed Sow to her wallowing in the mire yea to the very vomit and mire of that VVhore of Rome which we had formerly spned and cast out That this is the common Newes in most forraigne parts not only the reports of Travellers witnes but Sr. Iohn Cooke your Majesties principall Secretary of State some few yeares since in the very infancy of these Innovations and backeslidings affirmed openly in Star-chamber in the now Arch-Bishop of Canterburies case that this newes was spread as farre as the very Wals of Rome itself upon his certaine intelligence thence And therefore it was high time for your Majesty your Prelates and the State to looke more strictly to our Religion and to take away all occasions of such Rumours Since which there have been more occasions of them given then in forty yeares before So as this Rumour is generally believed abroad as a most certaine truth● and crept into some of their late printed Bookes This likewise is the common confident discourse and persuasion of most Priests and Papists at home both among themselves and in the Company of Protestants over whom they now seeme to triumph and sticke not openly to affirme and justify that both our Arch-Bishops to omit others are theirs To make this good I shall give your Majesty two late instances of which I have certaine intelligence and witnesses too if need be worthy your Royall consideration A Barkeshire Gentleman of some worth a Popish Recusant was since Easter last 1636. at a publike meeting where were divers prime Gentlemen of the Shire and 3 or 4 Iustices of Peace if not more VVhere entring into Discourse concerning some Controversies of Religion between the Papists and us with some of the Company he used these words in the hearing of them all Well Gentlemen you may talke and discourse of your Religion as long as you please but we have the Queens Majesty and the Arch Bishop of Canterbury firme on our side And so long wee shall make our partie good enough with you Some of the Company questioning him for these words He answered He would justify and make good what he sayd But was never yet for ought I heare required to doe it though intimation hath been given of these speeches to some whom they much concerne When Dr. Cosen 's the last Summer 1636. removed from the Bishopricke of Durham to his Colledge at Cambridge He gave his Friends of New-Castle a farewell Sermon in the Towne at which Sermon preached in the after-noone most of the Papists in that Towne were present Two of them the next morning meeting with two Marchants of the Towne who were Protestants they went all into a Taverne to drinke their mornings draughts The Papists demaunded of the Protestants whether they heard Dr. Cosens his Sermon One replied that he only heard of it but heard it not by reason of some busines that hindred him The other made Answer that he heard it The Papists demaund of him how he liked it He replied That it was but a plaine ordinary Sermon and that he heard nothing extraordinary in it Yea but said the Papists did you marke his garbe his cringes to the Altar and how he bowed himselfe when Iesus was named He hath the right garbe and duckes of our Priests The other answered he did not much observe his gestures Well said the Papists Dr. Cosens is a learned honest Gentleman and to tell you truely He and the Arch-Bishop of Yorke are both ours The other bade them take heed what they said Wee know well enough said they what we say we tell you againe they are both ours Whereupon one of the Protestants merrily replied If you will needs have both of them to be yours pray take them to yourselves we can spare them well enough Many words past to this purpose The Protestants complained of these speeches as scandalous to the Arch-Bishop and acquainted him there-with Whereupon the Papists were Articled against in the High Commission-Court at Durham and cited to appeare there Appearance they made but they have not yet made any full answer the busines being hushed up in a maner and layd asleepe Dr. Cosens in the meane time takes his journy towards Cambridge Most of the Gentlemen Papists in the Bishopricke to prove him theirs brought him a dayes-journy on his way and some of them as farre as Yorke Like speeches have been used by other Papists yet more privately modestly The like report they in print of Dr. Theodor Price Subdeane of West-minster that however he lived like an Atheist yet he died like a professed Papist This J confesse is not only a report but a truth He being a reported Papist long before his death Which made many wonder at the impudency of that great Prelate who knowing him intus in cute durst recommend him to your Majesty as the fittest man he in his conscience could pitch upon to make a Welsh Bishop And so earnestly to stickle for him against your Lord High Chamberlaine and his Chaplaine Dr. Griffirth Williams Especially being a man that never preached all his life but one Sermon as was reported and that in Latine penned as was bruited in Oxford long ago● by his Kinsman D. Lewes And he not long after a notorious Sodomite flying the Realme and losing his Provostship in Oxford for this very Sinne Yet now without any purgation or satisfactiō for so foule a crime is preferred not only to the Mastership of S. Crosses but likewise made your Majesties Chaplaine in Ordinary I will not say by whom and the chiefe man imployed for the now Chancellour of Oxford in his canvase for that dignity against the Earle of Pe●broke your Lord High Chamberlaine who had most voyces though not the fairest play It may be these Arch-Prelates countenancing and preferring of such persons is one maine ground of these Papists speeches VVho are worthy to be punished for them if they cannot justify and make them good And they unworthy to stay one hower in their places in case they shall not or cannot both by their Actions Doctrines c preceedings disprove them to be true as J hope their Graces wil being Fathers in God highest growen up into Christ in all things and the Eldest in Grace for which cause the word Grace is used unto Arch-Bishops as Mr. Reeve learnedly informes us But how-ever that shall fall out upon tryall yet this certainly is one fruite of these late Jnnovations and Bookes to produce such speeches in these and more mens mouthes then three or foure 8. Eightly these Bookes Innovations and Apostasies both in Doctrines Ceremonies