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A61860 The life of the learned Sir Thomas Smith, Kt., doctor of the civil law principal secretary of state to King Edward the Sixth, and Queen Elizabeth : wherein are discovered many singular matters ... With an appendix, wherein are contained some works of his, never before published. Strype, John, 1643-1737. 1698 (1698) Wing S6023; ESTC R33819 204,478 429

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Warrant can the French make now Seals and Words of Princes being Traps to catch Innocents and bring them to the Butchery If the Admiral and all those Martyred on that bloody Bartholomew Day were guilty why were they not apprehended imprisoned interrogated and judged but so much made of as might be within two Hours of the Assassination Is that the manner to handle Men either culpable or suspected So is the Journier slain by the Robber so is the Hen of the Fox so the Hind of the Lion so Abel of Cain so the Innocent of the Wicked so Abner of Ioab But grant they were guilty they dreamt Treason that night in their Sleep what did the Innocents Men Women and Children at Lions What did the Sucking Children and their Mothers at Roan deserve at Caen at Rochel What is done yet we have not heard but I think shortly we shall hear Will God think you still sleep Shall not their Blood ask Vengeance Shall not the Earth be accursed that hath sucked up the innocent Blood poured out like Water upon it I am most sorry for the King whom I love whom I esteem the most worthy the most faithful Prince of the World the most sincere Monarch now Living Ironically spoken no question by Smith because to him that King used to profess so much Integrity I am glad you shall come home and would wish you were at home out of that Country so contaminate with innocent Blood that the Sun cannot look upon it but to prognosticate the Wrath and Vengeance of God The Ruin and Desolation of Ierusalem could not come till all the Christians were either killed there or expelled from thence But whither do I run driven with just Passions and Heats And in another Letter All that be not Bloody and Antichistian must needs condole and lament the Misery and Inhumanity of this Time God make it short and send his Kingdom among us La Crocque was now in England Ambassador from France and notwithstanding this base bloody Action of France and the Jealousies that the Queen now justly conceived of that King yet she gave him a soft Answer to be returned to his Master being ready to go to his own Country Of which Ambassador's Negotiation and the Queen's Answer thus Secretary Smith spake His Negotiation was long in Words to make us believe better of that King than as yet we can and replied to on the English side liberally eenough Altho' to that Prince or Country who have so openly and injuriously done against Christ who is Truth Sincerity Faith Pity Mercy Love and Charity nothing can be too sharply and severely answered Yet Princes you know are acquainted with nothing but Doulceur so must be handled with Doulceur especially among and between Princes And therefore to temperate as you may perceive Not that they should think the Queen's Majesty and her Council such Fools as we know not what is to be done and yet that we should not appear so rude and barbarous as to provoke where no Profit is to any Man Upon the Preparations that were made in England against the feared Attempts of the French or other Roman Catholicks at this critical Time of the Murthers committed upon the Protestants in France the Secretary thus piously spake Truth it is that God disposeth all whatsoever a Man does purpose as Divines speak And it is his Gift if Wise Men do provide for Mischief to come And yet whatsoever they do devise the Event doth come of him only who is the God of Hope and Fear beyond Hope and Expectation This he spake in reference to the Scots who hearing of this Havock in France whereas the Lords there were in Civil Wars amongst themselves fom●nted by the French did now begin to come to Accord dreading these Doings and fearing some Danger near themselves For it was the Desire of the English to have Scotland in Peace and Union under the present Protestant King And now by a way not thought on they drew nearer and nearer to an Accord To which the Cruelty in France helped not a little and now continuing much more would Which he exprest in th●se Words The Scots our Neighbours he awakened by their Beacons in France And the Scots to shew their Resentment of these foul Doings there issued out a Proclamation to that purpose which the Secretary sent to Walsingham CHAP. XIV Secretary Smith at Windsor dispatching Business His Care of Flanders and Ireland Mass-mongers and Conjurers sent up to him out of the North. His Colony in Ireland IN the very beginning of November Secretary Smith was with the Queen at Windsor the Lord Treasurer Burghley and most of the Lords of the Council being gone to London to the Solemnization of some great Wedding at which the Secretary also should have been but he thought it not convenient to go to be present with the Queen whatsoever Chance might happen There were now in England Walwick an Agent from the Earls of East Freezeland who was very importune for an Answer to his Masters Requests and another Agent from the Town of Embden who came about Matters of Trade The Consideration of whose Business the Queen committed to Aldersay and some other Merchants of London who had objected against the Agents Proposals and were to give in their Reasons Smith who was ever for Dispatch of Business desired the Lord Burghley to call upon these Merchants to hasten and to forward the Dismission of both those Agents Irish Businesses also lying before the Queen at this Time were taken care of by him Signifying to the said Lord Treasurer how the Lord Deputy of Ireland wanted Comfort and Direction in Answer to his Letters And he desired the Treasurer to send him the Draught of the Answer from the Lords to the said Deputy which he would cause to be written fair and made ready to be Signed against his and the rest of the Lords Return to Windsor He further wrote to the Treasurer that he should have the Privy Seal sent him for 5200 l. for Corn and Money for the use of the Deputy He mentioned two Letters withal to be sent by the same Dispatch into Ireland for three Bishopricks void there to which the Lord Deputy had recommended certain Persons as able and fit Men for those Places And taking care of his Friend Walsingham Ambassador in France he obtained leave from the Queen for his Return home And when among several named to her Majesty to succeed him she had her thoughts upon Mr. Francis Carce as liking him most he enformed the Treasurer of it and prayed him to send for the said Carce and commune with him to put himself in a readiness Whereby as he said he should do Mr. Walsingham a great Pleasure These were some of the State Matters Smith's Hands were full of in the Month of November Sir Thomas Smith was nettled to see the proud Spaniard Domineering in Flanders and Holland and exercising their Cruelties there and
of Lyons their General being an Hart. First I do not see that every Prince maketh his War himself there in Presence nor that every one of them is that Lyon which they speak of And if it be in a Country where Peace may be had and the Realm so well Walled in as ours is by the Sea I cannot perceive but a good Prince may do more good in well-ordering this C●mmon-wealth at Home than seeking mo●● Conquests Abroad The Romans doubted whether Numa did less good to Rome with keeping it in Peace forty years than Romulus the first Founder did with maintaining so many VVars and Conquests And Augustus was rather a Father of the Country when the Civil VVars ended when he kept Peace with all Nations and Govern'd well the Empire than he himself was in his Proscriptions being Triumvir or in his Civil VVars against Antonius and did then more good to Rome in shutting of Ianus his Temple than did Iulius Caesar in his VVars against the old Pompey yea or else in his long Wars against France And have not Queens been Warriors What was Semiramis and Zenobia Maud the Empress and the late Queen Margaret Amula Suenta that we spake of before was reported to be the VVarrior in the Victory which her unkind Husband Theodotus got over Theobertus King of Mettes and the Bur●undians and Almains For her VVisdom not their Manliness did it as appears by his vile Cowardliness after her Death But if Queens make Peace and keep the Realm flourishing in good Order and Quiet and overcome their own and their Under-governors Affections of Robbing and Oppressing the poor Subjects they make a Greater and more Commendable Conquest than ever Sylla or Marius Pompeius or Caesar did yea or Carolus the last Emperor of Rome in taking the French King or winning Tunis and Goleta And if VVars should happen to come why may not the Queen make and maintain her Wars as well by a General of her appointing sought out by her Wisdom as all other Princes commonly do And Plutarchus doth well note that Augustus himself had small advantage in all Wars wherein he had the Conduct himself as himself also was in great danger but those which he did manage by Legats and Generals all did prosper well and fortunately with him But of Wars we have spoken enough wherein it is no more need that the Prince should be in Presence than it is that all the Senate of Venice now or the Senate of Rome in times past should always have been in Presence and Person in their Wars For it is their Wit and Policy their Fore-seeing and VVisdom as well in maintaining of the War as in chusing of their Captain that obtaineth the Victory And I pray you did not th' one Conquer as much and doth not th' other keep as well their Conquest as ever Alexander and his Successors did Then it may appear it is not the Presence but the Wisdom of the Prince the Manly Look but the Sober Discretion the Beard but the Chearful Heart that bringeth the Victory and keepeth the Land conquested And this I say may as well be in a Queen as in a King in a Wise and Discreet Lady unmarried as in any Husband she shall take unto her One thing must I needs say if it be chargeable for a Realm to maintain one Prince or King it must needs be more chargeable for a Realm to maintain two If they cry out of the Takers for the taking for one House or Train for two they shall have more cause And do you think that whensoever the Queens Majesty shall take an Husband the Court can be unaugmented I am sure Reason Order and Experience sheweth the contrary Well if the greater Train bring the more Expences the more Officers do require the more Charge the greater Family doth consume the larger Provision of Victuals And if the Realm as Reason it is must bear all these and yet all things done as well now as it shall be then I cannot but conclude even of Husbanding but as good Husbands do that the Affairs of the Realm being as well done th' one way as th' other the best cheap must appear the best way Which is as ye see that the Queens Majesty should remain as she doth now still Sole and unmarried neither intangle her self with a Husband either strange or born in the Realm I have now passed over my three Parts not so fully as one of you would do who have their Tongues and Wits so ready so fine and so eloquent But after my rude and homely m●nner I have declared unto 〈◊〉 that simple sole Life and Virginity doth please God better and is better esteemed and an higher Vertue than Marriage And as it is more Heroical so more comely for a Queen which is a Monarch and a Soveraign Prince born I have also proved that for her Person it is most sure and less dangerous for her Mind more quiet and less doubtful and lastly you see I lack no Reasons to shew that it is better and more commodious for the Realm Why then should this Opinion be counted either wicked or strange or unreasonable And with this he held his Peace and none of the other were hasty to answer Whether it were because they did Meditate and Record with themselves what he had said or what and how they should confute him or no I know not but I perceive that they looked not for such an Oration At the last the Fourth brake Silence who save that he would gladly have the Queens Majesty marry for the rest he was indifferent And he as you know if I should tell you his Name hath not his Tongue ready for he stuttereth stammereth and if he be moved uneth he can bring forth a right Word And commonly those Men be of the greatest Heart and Courage and testy with it as the Greeks call them It appeared that he was moved with this Oration For with much ado he brought out his Words The effect whereof was this Mary quoth he this is a Tale indeed and Arguments well picked out You may well be called Mr. Agamus or Misogamos Surnamed in right English Wedspite or Spitewed For I never heard Man speak so despitefully against Wedding and Marriage of the Queens Majesty in my Life I think you be one of St. Frauncis or St. Benets Scholars I would to God my Tongue would serve me but half so well as yours I would ask no help to answer you But now seeing my Tongue will not follow I shall desire these Two to take my part Who altho' within themselves they be not of one Opinion yet with me against you they agree And seeing they can do it well enough my Stuttering and Stammering should be but superfluous Then quod the one of the other if you be so ready to Christen and Name the Child belike as soon as I have told the Tale you will be my Godfather and give me a Name Nay saith he I can
doth bring to th one and so much more Hatred and Displeasure the Denying doth bring unto thother As for Example sake it K. Philip desired most earnestly we should make War with the Frenchmen and Q. Mary desired no less to live in Quiet and to have Peace with them the Husband and the Wife in most contrary Appetites the Granting extremely grieved th one the Denyal should as extremely have offended thother Of the Event what followed we know But ye wil say this was when a Foreign Prince did marry the Queen who having War of his own with the Frenchmen must needs desire his Wifes Country for Loves-sake to joyn with him And this Realm having Wounds enough at home had good Cause to mislike War abroad But if her Grace marry one of her own here at home there shall be no such Occasion you wil say but their Minds shall be al one whom th one loveth thother loveth also and whom the one misliketh so wil thother also This is wholly assured if it were always so but seeing never Man was always in one Mind himself continually nor yet Woman but that which at one time we love another time we hate what we like being Children we mislike being Men and Women and much more when we be old How can we think that any Man or Woman may be always of one Opinion Mind Judgment or Desire with another where he is not so with himself Conveniet nulli qui secum dissidet ipse saith the old Verse And what Mischiefs those Break may bring we have too many Examples both amongst the Graecians Romans and ●arbarians And first I will begin with the Goths when they were Lords over Rome and Italy Amula Suinta or as some do write her Amala Suenta the Daughter of K. Theodoricus King of Rome and al Italy and so rightfally Heir of that Kingdom to govern the Realm the better took to her Husband Theodotus a Nobleman of the ●oths who belike afterwards dissenting with her in Opinion of Matters of the State first found the means to exile her into a little Island in a Lake besides Vossinana in Italy and afterwards there caused her to be most cruelly slain Philippe Vicecount of Milain being at a very low Ebb by Marriage of Beatrice wife to Fantino Cane had the Lordships and Seignories of Vercelli Alexandria Navarra Cortana four goodly Cities a great number of Riches Thereby he recover'd again the State of Milain and Lumbardy which was before lost This man to recompence her Kindnes and al these Benefits within a short while after caused her to be convicted of Adultery and cruelly to be put to death Iane the 2d Queen of Naples did otherwise She took to Husband Iaques Countie de la Nardy of the French Kings Blood with whom she indented that he should be contented to be called Prince Tarento and to leave to her not only the Name but also the Government of the Kingdom of Naples This liked not he or els his Counsillors and so removed her from Administration and kept her almost as a Prisoner She like a wise Woman feigned to rejoyce thereat and to bear it well until such time as she had compassed all her Device and shut him clean out of Naples For which Cause altho' he made War yet was he sain at the last willed he nilled he to live as a Man banished out of that Realm I have read of many being Sole Inheritors and Princesses of many Countrys which after took unto them Husbands who had no better success tho' not all so evil Even in our days Q. Mary took K. Philip to her Husband a Noble Prince Wise Discreet and Fortunate Yet many Men think that thereby she lost the Hearts of the most number of her Subjects And it is too manifest that immediately upon it in a very short space an incredible number of her Subjects were by order of such Law and Justice as was used in those Days most cruelly put to Death And God for his part whether offended that she so living Sole and as may be thought a Virgin did so suddenly choose to marry or rather that she finding the Light of the Gospel abroad in her Realm did what she could to Extinguish it and put it out did so punish the Realm with Quartan Agues and other such long and new Sicknesses that in the two last years of her Reign so many of her Subjects were made away what with the Execution of the Sword and Fire and what by Sicknesses that the third Part of the Men in ●ngland was consumed Ye see I do pass o●e● 〈◊〉 thin●s li●htly and do not Am●lify th●● 〈◊〉 Orato●● 〈◊〉 Bu● 〈◊〉 ●●ould have ev●ry Piece rath●●●o 〈◊〉 ●eighed of you de●per than that you 〈◊〉 think that I should with words overlade the ●atter I com● to the Third that is what is best for the Realm and her Subjects And surely in this matter methinks for many Reasons it is best as it is now And here I will not over-slip this Advantage I pray you what Fault is there to be found with the Governance now Wherein do we lack or want an Husband for the Queen Compare both Q. Maries Time married and the Q. Highnesses Time that now is unmarryed Then was Burning and Hanging at Home Wars and Losing of Strong Holds Abroad Most Men discontent except a few of her Sect with Subsidies and Loans Sicknesses and Promooters as well th' one as th' other throughly vexed War we saw and felt and other Mischief was feared which whether it was to come or no few know Now for War we have Peace for Fear Security So tho' even the Papists altho ' otherwise they lost for their Stiffness yet they be more sure of their Lives now by the Clemency of the Time than they were then by the importune Favour of the Prince For Scarcity we have reasonable Plenty for Brass-Mony good Silver For Servitude Liberty What can a Common-wealth desire more than Peace Liberty Quietness little taking of base Mony few Parliaments their Coin amended Friendship with their Neighbours War with no Man either to follow the Gospel or Security of Life if they will be Papists Except peradventure we should seem to do as Aesop's Frogs did which not content with the King which Iupiter gave them knowing them to need none were weary of their Liberty and would not rest till they had also the Stork and Hearn for their Kings From whom now with all their Cryes these many Thousand years they cannot be delivered Well yet for the Wars and such Martial Feats it is most convenient to have a Man who should Govern abroad take upon him the Spear and Shield be there in Presence himself which is marvellous Encouragement to the Souldier to Fight in the Sight of the Prince where he thinks his Reward shall be according to his Deserts And as a great Warrior said I had rather have an Army of Harts their General being a Lyon than an Army
Name you already For you love Aliens and Strangers so well and praise so well all Countrys and Countrymen save England and Englishmen that 't is pity you were not born somewhere else And I think you be or should be some VVelchman and Named Lewelyn as one would say Lovealien or in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Well said he and laughed you do not well thus to Nick-name and Provoke me to be angry with you when you pray me for to speak for you It is happy your Tongue serveth you no better and that God hath sent a shrewd Cow short Horns None of us should escape you if your Tongue were as good as your Heart But yet I would it would have served you now it should have eased me well in confuting his Tale whom you have now Christned Mr. Agamus or VVedspite Which Tale was after such a sort I must confess unto you as I looked not for But yet I trust it may be answer'd and thereto if you give me a while patient Ears I will endeavour my self with a good Will II. Philoxenus or Love alien This Oration for the Queens Marrying IT shall not be amiss to begin saith he now Mr. Agami● for it is like to be your Name at this Time where you began Which as methought was pretty and Philosophical Yet must I repeat the M●tter somewhat higher Two things being appointed to be had in Election if the one be honest th' other dishonest the Election is easy to him that preferreth Vertue and Honesty to all other things altho' the Dishonest be more profitable or more pleasant ten thousand fold For always that which is honest and godly is to be taken And yet possibly this Election would not be so taken of every Man as hath appeared in them that have made War to their Country Proscription of their Citizens and have exercised a thousand Tyrannies for Ambition Profit or Pleasures-sake preferring the Dishonest things because they were profitable or pleasant before Honesly But where the Things propounded be both equal for that Part there the Election standeth in their Degrees as if Things of themselves may be Honest and Godly and the Contraries thereof may also so be and the one and the other may be used there the Circumstances do alter the Matter As Peace and War Punishment and Forgiveness Eating and Abstinence Marriage and Sole Life both not only permitted but allowed of God And according to the Circumstance of Time and Place Person and Occasion sometime th' one better sometime th' other And herein I think we do not vary Altho' you seem in your Tale to make them both Vertues I mean Virginity and Marriage Which I think you did after the common manner of Speaking rather than the true manner of Understanding For a right Vertue cannot be abused Either of these may be abused and encrease Damnation But as things indifferent Eating and Drinking Reasoning and Disputing Ruling and Obeying Sleeping and Waking Earnest and Play so these take of their Circumstances as I said before of Place Time and Person Cause Occasion or Necessity to make them good or bad Wherefore this is not so simply to be granted unto you that Sole Life is the better No tho' it be the harder but according as the Circumstances be Who that should begin being a private Person to bring in a new Sect or Religion to reform all the State and Order of that which hath been taught before not with Power but Perswasion not with Sword but with Miracle not with Violence but with Patience not with War but with Fleeing when he is persecuted from one place to another To him it is necessary and to all them that shall follow that kind of Policy to be disburthened of Care for his Wife of Charge for his Children of the Negligence of Servants of harkening to Accounts of Saving of his Stock and of all such Things as Marriage necessarily doth bring to the private or publick Person whosoever he be that is not altogether without that Affection which is most natural the which they that lack are called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Then to Christ then to St. Paul then to all them who at the first Time as it were the Sowing Time of Christian Religion were the Till-men of the Gospel ye see it was most necessary yea in a manner it could not well otherwise be done but that they should be Sole and unmarried That which was in their Persons and at that time best whether it be now and in the Queens Person best may justly be a great Doubt I cannot see but that Abraham having the Seed promised him wherein all Nations should be blessed was as Holy in knowing Sarah as Elias who was ravished into Heaven in his Virginity if no other Difference were but that Nor why Manue Manoah to whom Sampson was promised who should be the Deliverer of Israel did not as well therein as Elizaeus in keeping himself Sole who the Prophet said should slay all them that Iehu left Now let th' one be simply better than th' other Virginity than Mariage which it seemeth can hardly be gathered of St. Paul for he praiseth Virginity as better not for it self nor in its self but for having less Lett and Trouble than hath Marriage So that if a Marriage have less Let and Trouble the Virginity more then he preferreth Mariage Wherein it may appear that it is not as I said so better as Vertue is better than Vice nor as Gold than Silver nor scarcely as the Fine than the Base But let it be as both in one kind of Nature but the one as fine Gold the more to be esteemed th' other as base the less Yet where the Baser weigheth Ten pound and the Finer but one Ounce there must needs the Base in kind be better indeed the Courser in Nature of such things be more excellent in Use and Necessity Peradventure to a Student a Priest a Man of War and a Merchant-Adventurer the first were best because Care of Houshold and Family should happily much disturb them of their Studies the other because they are always in danger and absent from home it were best for them to live a Sole Life But for a Prince upon whose quiet Succession a great part of the Common-wealth doth hang whose Family is the Root and Foundation of inward Peace within the Realm to live Sole is to be an Author of such Mischief as no Man can wish to a Realm a greater And who would say then That to a Prince it is simply better to live Sole than to marry To kill the Prince who is the King 's Eldest Son is worthily made High-Treason What is it then not to kill one but all yea and not that but the Hope of all And you Mr. Aganius open your Lips to praise Virginity or Sole Life in our Queen whose Daughter much more Son or a Prince if God should send one as I trust God if it shall please her Highness to
thou do stil prolong Doubt and Defer as now thou dost Thus me●●●nks England might speak wel enough to her Majesty Whose Word I trust her Highne● wil both hear and weigh when it shal please God to put it in her Highnes mind But I wil return to your other Argaments Mr. Agamus You were something long in proving that the Queens Majesty may in Peace by her Council in War by her General govern and conduct al things as wel as tho She were there in Person her self Hardly wil I graunt that the one should be as wel as th' other I se in al other things that Oculus Domini non solum pascit Equum optime as he said but also Colit stercorat Agrum The Italians have a Proverb La ●●ccia d'buomo saccia de Leone The Face of a man is the Face of a Lion Meaning that the Presence of a man himself to whom the thing doth appertain to Terror to Diligence to setting forward of that which is intended doth furmount and pass al other things As when our late Sovereign K. Henry VIII ●ay against Boloign and another Camp with right good Captains before Montrel the Courage of the Soldier the Provision of the Victuals the Effect of the Enterprize ye know was not like For th' one fought under the Princes Ey th' other as it were behind him th' one saw present Reward or Pain th' other had but trust of their Captains Report As touching the Romans where do you se or read in their Histories that the Lea●tes which we call Generals or Lieutenants did so wel as the Consuls or Proconsuls in any War Who altho they were but as other of the Senate yet for that Time they had a Kingly and Sovereign Authority especially abroad And yet the Romans thought not that enough but when any danger came they made Dicta●●●ent Who from the Time of his Dictatorship was a very King or Monarch as ye know well enough So much did they think that Legats and Generals could not do th'enterprize so wel as he that hath the Princely Fasces as they cal them and the Sceptre And who that readeth the Veuctian Histories shal se that altho their Captain or General hath one of their Senate called Proveditore with him By whose Counsil if he do he doth avoid the danger of judgment Yet for because he is not indeed Consul or Dictator ye see their Wars go but coldly forward And this you knowing which Thing I marked in your Tale you praise them for the keeping that which they get wherefore I peradventure could shew some Causes Indeed for good Warriors I never heard Man yet give them the Prize And if I should grant this that the Generals in War do as wel as the Prince in Person which thing you see I am very loth to do and if it had not been strange and a thing to be wondered at in Octavius Augustus Plutarch would not have noted it But if I should grant it yet as the Greeks say One City is before another and there is difference in Generals and Lieutenants not only in knowledge of the Feats of War and in the Hardines of Courage and Wisdom to atchieve them but also in Estimation of the Soldier And who can be more esteemed or go more n●er to do as much in the Wars and with Soldiers as the Queen her Self if She were a Warriour or there in Person should do as either he which is the King or the Queens Husband In K. Henry III. his Time I read of Prince Edward who was after called Long Shanks and in the Time of Edward III. of the Black Prince and Henry V. that they did as much as their Fathers and that their Soldiers would under their Banners sight as valiant and go as far as they would govern their Fathers being then Kings of England And no marvail They did not only look shortly to have them their Sovereign Masters but they knew in the mean time how dear those Persons were to their Fathers Which two things did work so much in their Hearts and Minds that there was smal Want of the Royal Presence So much think I it doth excel to the Encouragement of the Soldier to the Hope of the Capitain to the Terror of the Enemy to understand that the Husband of the Queen he whom her Highnes Loveth above al men and whom She trusteth most and who can commend their Doings at al Times to her Highnes to be in the Field over it is of any other Lieutenant or General whosoever he be At one thing I assure you you had almost made me to laugh when that you spoke so husbandly of Husbanding I perceive the Queens Majesty doth not wel that you are not one of the Green-cloth you would husband the Matter so wel and teach them al to save mony And for one thing ye might do wel there because I perceive ye love no Takers But if you were once of them I fear me you would love Takers better and bear with them as wel as al the rest do Oh! merciful God do you look to save mony and do not care to save your Head You do consider how a few Expences may be saved and do not se how your Posterity shal be spent and consumed Cal to remembrance I pray you what was spoken you wot Where and When a little before the Speaker of the Parlament went to move that Petition to her Highnes wherof I spake even now I would to God her Majesty might live ever I would she should not dye but now I know that being born of mortal Parents there is no Remedy She must once run this Race that al her Progenitors have don before and al mortal Men and Women shal follow When that is don what a Damp shal England be in What an Eclipse wil that be if God do not either send a Prince before of her Body or els incredible Aggrement of the Nobility and Commons We hear what the Daulphin did attempt by the Title of his Wife the Scottish Queen after the Death of Q. Mary Happy is the Queens Majesty by the great Consent of her Subjects and happy be her Subjects by the Life and Prosperity of her Highnes But if there come any Dissension for the Trials of Titles If there come Part-takings who should wear the Crown what a more miserable Realm should there be in the whole World than this of England I am afraid to speak and I tremble to think what Murthers and Slaughters what Robbing and Ri●ling what Spoiling and Burning what Hanging and Heading what Wasting and Destroying Civil War should bring in if ever it should come From the Time that K. Richard II. was deposed in whom al the Issne of the Black Prince was extinct unto the Death of K. Richard III the unkind and cruel Brother of Edward IV. whose Daughter was Maried as ye know to K. Henry VII by reason of Titles this poor Realm had never long Rest. Noble men
were beheaded poor men were spoiled both one and th' other stain in battel or murthered at home Now this King prevailed now th' other No man sure of his Prince no man of his Goods no man of his Life A King to day to morrow a Prisoner Now hold the Sceptre and shortly after fly privily the Realm And when this fel upon the Head how sped the Body think you Those two Blades of Lyonel and Iohn of Gaunt never rested pursuing th' one th' other til the Red Rose was almost razed out and the White made al bloudy And as it were Eteocles and ●●ly●ices they ceased not til they had filled their Country ful of bloudy Streams They set the Father against the Son the Brother against the Brother the Unkle flew the Nephew and was slain himself So Bloud pursued and ensued Bloud til al the Realm was brought to great Confusion It is no marvail tho' they lost France when they could not keep England And England in the latter end of K. Henry VI. was almost a very Chaos Parishes decayed Churches fel down Townes were desolate plowed Fields waxed Groves Pastures were made Woods Almost half England by Civil War slain and they which remained not sure but in Moates and Castles or lying in Routs and Heaps together When those two Roses by the Reliques and last store of the Whole were joyned in the amiable Knot of Mariage then the Strife ended and England began as it were to be inhabited again Men left Moates and Castles and builded abroad pleasant Houses And thus it hath continued from K. Henry VII hitherto Save that in this Time a few Broyls of the Stirred Sea which could not so soon be calmed by Martin Swarte Perkin Warbeck and Simond out of Ireland were somewhat renewed but they were Trifles to the rest Sith which Time not containing yet fourscore years you se how England is repeopled the Pastures clothed the Desarts inhabited the Rents of Lands encreased the Houses replenished the Woods so wasted that now we begin to complain for want of them and our Encrease is tedious to our selves which find fault with the Fruits of Peace because we know not the Cause of the Success nor the Commodities therof But as if al the World should return to the old Chaos it were the greatest mischief that Heart could invent Tongue speak Pen express or Wit indite So if this should come to our Country of England we for our parts shal feel this I speak of and as it were the particular Judgment of the Day of Doom And it standeth but on a tickle and frail Ground if God wil so plague our Country whether the Red and White Rose shal strive again together or whether the branches of the mixed Rose shal cleave asunder and strive within themselves which is neerer the Root Oh! Lord God let me not live to se that day And you my Friend do you in this Company speak of Saving of Mony to let the saving of this Trouble from the Realm of England With this he held his peace and seemed indeed very much troubled And no man said a word even a good pretty space 〈◊〉 at the last the Stammerer that I told you of whom they called after al that night Mr. Godfather stutting after this maner said this in effect By the Lord I believe you have told as good a Tale as ever I heard I am now glad I have an Excuse by my Tongue for I should not have don it so wel For both in Peace and War and al times you have proved that it is best for her Grace and most to her Comfort and Quiet to have an Husband Mary I thought long for this Last Part of the Necessity of a Prince of her Highnes Body And because you pass it over so with Silence I had thought to have put you in mind of that thing but now I wil not say more of it For I se it troubleth you as it doth us al. Now Sir you have said so much for me as I would wish and I thank you For the rest as I said I am indifferent If you have any thing to speak for an Alien who be so tender unto you and whom you do always prefer before us English Men speak on a Gods Name and let this Gentleman provide wel to aunswer you For I perceive ye wil do wel enough both III. Philoxenius or Love-alien his second Oration for the Queens Marying with a Stranger IN good Faith quoth Love-alien now I have spoken for you so long I am in a maner weary when I should speak for my self And yet this was not out of the Way for me so to do but in maner necessary For it standeth not with order of Disputation as to my remembrance Aristotle writeth that I should go about to prove Quale sit before I have proved Quod sit Therfore it had been superfluous for me to describe what maner of Husband I thought most meet for the Queens Highnes if it were not first proved by reason that it were convenient that her Majesty should have one For if her Grace be fully determined and perswaded by Mr. Agamus Spiteweds Reasons then to reason whether a Stranger or an English-man were more to be wished is clean superfluous For it is cut off by this one stroke Her Majesty wil have none Wel here among this Company for Disputation sake I wil stand so wel in my own Conceit that I take Mr Agamus his Opinion thorowly confuted And let us put the Case that is aggreed upon That best it were for her Majesty to Mary then standeth it in Consultation farther of the maner and Condition of her Husband Wherin may be made many Questions as whether a Young Man or a more elderly whether a Batchelor or a Widower an English-man or a Stranger a great Prince or a King or a mean Personage as in al such where divers be offered of sundry Qualities wherof the Choise and Election is to be taken and because both I am weary and there hath yet but one of these Questions been moved amongst us I shal speak but of that Branch only Whether an English-man or a Stranger is to be perferred Wherin because I have already declared my Opinion which Part I mind to take it resteth that I should also declare the Reasons which moved me to think as I have said and here I intend to begin The very true godly and essential Causes of Matrimony if I may use that Term be three The getting of Children without the Offence of God The natural Remedy to resist the Temptation of the Devil moving us to Fornication or Adultery And the Comfort Pleasure and Help which th' one hath of th' other in al private Affairs and in Governing the House and Family This last the Philosophers which knew not the right Law of God make the first the chief and the whole Cause For as for the Second I mean Fornication they esteemed it not And the first
hither or else he shall not think himself sure or not fully a Prince What Turmoil shall that be trow you to the Realm what Disqui●t to her Highness what Fear Suspicion and Heart-burning to her Subjects And what better Argument will you have of this than our Laws and Customs of England which may evidently appear except the Acts of Parliament to be a thing made and gathered of the Laws of the Romans Danes and Normans Which three Nations have been in past times Governors and Heads of the Realm Each one for their Time bringing in as they could a piece of their Country Ordinances And do you not think that if King Philip had been long here he would not have brought some piece from Spain If nothing else at least the Inquisition as they call it as he did to Naples Whereby what Insurrections and Troubles arose there it is easie to learn by the French Histories Now if it please her Majesty to take one of her own Country all these Doubts be remov●d He must needs love his Country as his own He must favour it as the Mother of him and all his Ancestors as the Land wh●rein he took his first Breath and that wher●in not only the most but all his Living is And he must love her Majesty as the Chief of the same reverence here as the Mother of his Country obey her as the Head of the Realm to the which next unto God he oweth Duty and Love His Manners Customs Pastimes Diets Laws Titles Rights be all English nothing differing from those wherein the Queens Majesty hath been brought up But so much as should make him have the more Honour Admiration and Obedience to her Majesty and so much the more because he cannot tho' he would dissemble or forget from what Place her Highness taking him to what Place she hath brought him Whereas on the contrary side the foreign Prince standing upon the Reputation of his Country may perhaps little Weigh that as a Benefit but stand upon the Terms of as Great and as Good Yea but whosoever her Highness would Marry he shall be such as will frame himself to all these First there is a Question If he can For they say Mercury is not made of every Wood. So every Person is not apt to all kind of Manners Then the next is If he will For it is hard bending an Old Oak and an old Tree long grown crooked will not with ease grow the other ways But if he will and can learn to apply himself to our Manners is it not better to take one which is already for the Purpose if he may be had than to take one which is to break anew and to be doubted of when you have done And if any Breach or Dissension should chance to arise between her Highness and her Husband as we see no Year is so fair but there be some foul and rainy Days in it and no Peace so surely made but that it is Wisdom for Princes to provide against War let us examine this Part. The stranger strait standeth upon his Reputation which should he yield he is a great man born a Prince as she is his Country as good or as he peradventure will think better why should he yield to his Wife He will peradventure say he hath born too much he will bear no more And if he cannot make his Party good here he will send to his Subjects his Friends his Kinsfolks his Allies So shall we have her Highness in a strange Agony the Realm in an intricate and unspeakable Trouble Or if he despair to make his Party good he hath a ready Passage home to his Country again There will he Triumph at his Pleasure and have leasure there to study upon mischief to her Highness and Realm or at the least so long to hold out till the Queen's Majesty be glad to sue to him for a Peace and to make Ambassadors for a Concord Can this happen if her Majesty Marry one here in England What Refuge what Comfort or Succor can he have but in her Highness If her Highness be displeased with him where is his Stay his Aid his Defence his Garrison and Help to fly unto What hath he to make any brag again to her Majesty No no It will not be And as a man bound to the Peace in the Star-chamber in the Pain of 10000 l. he will be loth yea by Countenance to seek to break it for fear of forfeiting of his Bond which he is not able to pay So that Person if natural Love and Duty cannot make him yet this Danger and Fear shall make him always to apply to Love Serve and Honour her Majesty because the contrary bringeth to him the next Pain to Hell And if he should be faulty no Sanctuary no Refuge hath he to avoid the Forfeit This Part indeed is that which nippeth the most and which you would fain steal away from us With which and the other three ye joyned God as the Author of those Marriages which was before all these three Causes or any of them were made Wherein I do assure you in my mind you did not only like a wise and learned man as we all know you are but like one that cannot dissemble the Truth Altho' to make for your Purpose you can play the Orators part and pass after such a sort that if we had not given good eye unto you we should have taken no Advantage thereat Which must have been counted rather our Folly in this part then any thing else Then those Marriages which be made for these three Grounds and for these three Causes only that is the Continuance of Succession the avoiding of Fornica●ion the hearty Love growing upon the Vertuous and Godly Disposition each of others and Comfort and Pleasure which they look to have in that Fellowship of Life and Community of all Thoughts Pleasures and Displeasures be the godly Marriages and those which most commonly God will Bless and upon whom smallest Repentance doth follow And that Man or Woman which for these three Causes especially do take their Mate seem to have God before their eyes and to have a godly Mind and Will and to take the just and right way And he or she that taketh any of the other three which is Honour Power and Riches to be their Guide and chief Cause and hath not the chief regard to the other three beforenamed which you call Essential leaveth God out of the way and taketh some other tickle or frail things the Devil or the World by most Likelihood to be his Broker and Marriage-maker So that her Highness by your School and Teaching having first in her Mind the Continuation of her Posterity with the fear of God is to consider and make Election of one whom her Majesty can Fancy by the stable and profound judgment of her most excellent Wisdom to be such an one as whom she shall have always a Joy to behold a Comfort to have at