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law_n our_o author_n allow_v the_o bishop_n to_o be_v present_a but_o it_o be_v more_o plain_a n._n 12._o accord_n per_fw-la nostre_fw-fr seigneur_fw-fr le_fw-fr roi_fw-fr &_o les_fw-fr grantz_n de_fw-fr mesinme_fw-fr le_fw-fr parliament_n it_o be_v agree_v by_o the_o king_n and_o the_o great_a one_o in_o parliament_n but_o that_o the_o bishop_n be_v comprehend_v under_o thesegrantzis_n evident_a for_o it_o be_v there_o say_v that_o the_o petition_n of_o edmund_n earl_n of_o kent_n and_o margaret_n countess_n of_o kent_n to_o which_o that_o agreement_n refer_v be_v read_v before_o the_o king_n the_o prelate_n the_o count_n the_o baron_n and_o other_o grantz_n of_o the_o parliament_n in_o the_o same_o year_n n._n 14._o we_o meet_v with_o les_fw-fr prayer_fw-mi des_fw-fr prielatz_n &_o autres_fw-fr grantz_n the_o petition_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o other_o great_a man_n and_o then_o it_o follow_v nostre_fw-fr seigneur_fw-fr le_fw-fr roi_fw-fr en_fw-fr pleyn_n parliament_n per_fw-la assent_n accord_n priere_n &_o conseal_v des_fw-fr ditz_fw-fr prelatz_n &_o autres_fw-fr grantz_n our_o lord_n the_o king_n in_o full_a parliament_n by_o the_o assent_n accord_n petition_n and_o advice_n of_o the_o say_a prelate_n and_o other_o grantz_n which_o show_v that_o they_o be_v some_o of_o the_o grantz_n of_o parliament_n 5_o ed._n iii_o n._n 3._o touz_v les_fw-fr prelatz_n &_o autres_fw-fr grantz_n n._n 13._o grantz_n in_o general_n be_v use_v in_o the_o debate_n between_o the_o abbot_n of_o crowland_n and_o sir_n thomas_n wake_v and_o n._n 15._o le_fw-fr roi_n &_o as_o autres_fw-fr grantz_n en_fw-fr pleyn_n parliament_n n._n 16._o item_n fu_o accord_n per_fw-la le_fw-fr roi_n &_o touz_v le_fw-fr grantz_n en_fw-fr mesme_fw-fr le_fw-fr parliament_n auxibien_fw-fr per_fw-la prelatz_n come_v per_fw-la autres_fw-fr it_o be_v agree_v by_o the_o king_n and_o the_o great_a man_n of_o the_o parliament_n as_o well_o by_o the_o prelate_n as_o other_o nothing_o can_v be_v plain_a than_o 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le_fw-fr parliament_n and_o all_o these_o be_v use_v to_o express_v the_o same_o person_n and_o again_o n._n 3._o touz_v les_fw-fr grantz_n du_fw-fr dit_fw-fr parliament_n which_o be_v there_o oppose_v to_o chivaler_n des_fw-fr countez_fw-fr and_o be_v more_o distinct_o mention_v before_o in_o these_o word_n les_fw-fr ditz_fw-fr prelatz_n countess_n baroun_n &_o autres_fw-fr grantz_n &_o les_fw-fr chivaler_n des_fw-fr countess_n &_o tote_fw-la la_fw-fr conumune_fw-la sometime_o the_o grantz_n be_v take_v in_o general_a for_o all_o of_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n and_o the_o commons_o for_o the_o low_a house_n so_o 21_o ed._n iii_o n._n 63._o il_fw-fr assentuz_fw-fr per_fw-la lui_fw-fr les_fw-fr grantz_n &_o la_fw-fr dit_fw-fr comunalte_n a_o son_n parliament_n and_o again_o ditz_fw-fr grantz_n &_o de_fw-la tote_fw-la la_fw-fr come_v susditz_fw-fr and_o le_fw-fr roi_fw-fr per_fw-la assent_n des_fw-fr grantz_n commanda_fw-la a_fw-fr la_fw-fr ditz_fw-fr come_v from_o these_o example_n and_o many_o more_o which_o may_v if_o it_o be_v needful_a be_v produce_v it_o evident_o appear_v that_o the_o bishop_n be_v grantz_n in_o parliament_n according_a to_o the_o language_n of_o that_o time_n and_o therefore_o the_o precedent_n produce_v wherein_o only_o the_o grantz_n be_v mention_v be_v of_o no_o force_n at_o all_o against_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o that_o assertion_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o peerage_n 15_o etc._n etc._n appear_v to_o be_v without_o any_o ground_n viz._n that_o the_o bishop_n be_v never_o speak_v of_o in_o any_o record_n but_o by_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n or_o prelate_n or_o some_o such_o name_n to_o distinguish_v they_o from_o the_o laiety_n these_o general_a negative_n be_v very_o bold_a and_o dangerous_a thing_n and_o one_o affirmative_a overthrow_v they_o but_o i_o have_v produce_v many_o instance_n to_o the_o contrary_a and_o may_v do_v many_o more_o such_o man_n who_o dare_v venture_v upon_o such_o bold_a say_n must_v 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the_o writ_n to_o the_o parliament_n be_v send_v to_o the_o archbishop_n and_o all_o the_o bishop_n with_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la etc._n etc._n summon_v those_o of_o the_o clergy_n who_o be_v then_o think_v necessary_a to_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n but_o when_o a_o convocation_n be_v call_v than_o the_o writ_n be_v only_o direct_v to_o the_o two_o archbishop_n who_o be_v to_o summon_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o not_o only_o those_o who_o hold_v by_o barony_n but_o other_o of_o the_o dignify_a clergy_n tam_fw-la exemptos_fw-la quam_fw-la non_fw-la exemptos_fw-la with_o the_o proctor_n of_o the_o chapter_n and_o clergy_n of_o the_o diocese_n ad_fw-la tractand_v '_o &_o consulend_v '_o super_fw-la premissis_fw-la una_fw-la vobiscum_fw-la &_o aliis_fw-la per_fw-la nos_fw-la tunc_fw-la mittendis_fw-la so_o it_o be_v express_v in_o the_o writ_n for_o convocation_n 11_o ed._n iii_o 29_o ed._n iii_o 31_o ed._n iii_o 7_o r._n ii_o 28_o h._n vi_o 23_o ed._n iu_o only_a these_o two_o last_o have_v this_o difference_n ad_fw-la tractand_v '_o consentiend_n '_o conclude_v '_o super_fw-la premissis_fw-la &_o aliis_fw-la que_fw-la sibi_fw-la clarius_fw-la exponentur_fw-la tunc_fw-la ibidem_fw-la ex_fw-la parte_fw-la nostra_fw-la these_o thing_n i_o have_v lay_v together_o not_o bare_o to_o clear_v this_o intricate_a matter_n as_o it_o have_v be_v make_v of_o the_o interest_n the_o clergy_n then_o have_v in_o parliament_n as_o well_o as_o convocation_n but_o chief_o to_o prove_v from_o hence_o that_o all_o the_o interest_n they_o have_v in_o parliament_n be_v not_o mere_o on_o the_o account_n of_o the_o temporal_a barony_n which_o the_o bishop_n and_o many_o of_o the_o abbot_n than_o have_v which_o be_v the_o great_a but_o common_a mistake_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n 3_o after_o the_o bishopric_n be_v make_v barony_n the_o distinction_n even_o in_o parliament_n be_v keep_v up_o between_o the_o several_a estate_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o laiety_n for_o although_o baronagium_n do_v often_o take_v in_o all_o yet_o sometime_o they_o be_v so_o remarkable_o distinguish_v that_o we_o may_v see_v they_o be_v look_v on_o as_o two_o distinct_a estate_n in_o parliament_n so_o eadmerus_n speak_v of_o what_o pass_v in_o the_o parliament_n 3_o h._n ay_o say_v it_o be_v do_v utriusque_fw-la ordinis_fw-la concordi_fw-la curâ_fw-la &_o solicitudine_fw-la 67._o by_o the_o consent_n of_o both_o estate_n so_o matt._n paris_n speak_v of_o the_o summons_n to_o appear_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o h._n i._n comprehend_v all_o under_o those_o 2_o estate_n 55._o clerus_fw-la angliae_fw-la &_o pop._n universus_fw-la and_o again_o respondente_fw-la clero_fw-la &_o magnatibus_fw-la cunctis_fw-la speak_v of_o a_o parliament_n under_o h._n ii_o he_o say_v 143._o convocato_fw-la clero_fw-la regni_fw-la ac_fw-la populo_fw-la in_o 39_o h._n iii_o describe_v a_o parliament_n he_o call_v those_o assemble_a nobiles_fw-la