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i_o will_v ask_v no_o better_a commentary_n to_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o apostle_n before_o allege_a or_o any_o other_o such_o like_a than_o this_o very_a canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n to_o what_o purpose_n do_v you_o allege_v the._n 7._o canon_n of_o that_o council_n do_v you_o ever_o hear_v i_o say_v that_o i_o will_v have_v a_o minister_n to_o be_v a_o soldier_n or_o a_o captain_n in_o war_n or_o enjoy_v any_o such_o secular_a honour_n or_o office_n wherefore_o you_o lack_v probation_n when_o you_o be_v constrain_v to_o use_v this_o ¶_o the_o reason_n use_v in_o the_o answer_v justify_v chap._n 3._o the._n 1._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 169._o lin._n 4._o &_o sect._n 1._o 2._o now_o i_o come_v to_o m._n doctor_n argument_n which_o he_o bring_v to_o establish_v this_o disorder_n and_o first_o he_o say_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n may_v not_o occupy_v themselves_o in_o worldly_a business_n as_o to_o be_v merchant_n husbandman_n craft_n man_n and_o such_o like_a 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