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A89459 Reasons delivered by the Right Honourable the Earle of Manchester: for nulling the forc'd votes, and against the high and visible insolencies of those that forced the Houses. With a declaration of the House of Peeres acquitting themselves and other papers delivered at a conference of both Houses, on Wednesday, August 18. 1647. Also an ordinance of both houses of Parliament, appointing a secret committee for the sending for, and examining of parties and witnesses. Manchester, Edward Montagu, Earl of, 1602-1671.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Lords.; England and Wales. Parliament. 1647 (1647) Wing M393; Thomason E403_2; ESTC R200386 1,503 8

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REASONS DELIVERED By the Right Honourable the Earle of MANCHESTER FOR Nulling the forc'd VOTES And against the high and visible insolencies of those that forced the HOUSES WITH A DECLARATION OF The House of Peeres acquitting themselves AND Other papers delivered at a Conference of both Houses on Wednesday August 18. 1647. ALSO An Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament appointing a secret Committee for the sending for and examining of Parties and Witnesses Aug 20th Printed at London by Robert Ibbitson 1647. REASONS Delivered By the Right Honourable the Earle of MANCHESTER FOR Nulling the forc'd VOTES AND Against the high and visible insolencies of those that forced the Houses Die Mercurii August 18. 1647. AT a Conference of both Houses the Right Honourable the Earle of Manchester delivered from the Lords to the Commons these insuing particulars That their Lordships had commanded him to put them in minde that August the 6th Instant the Lords sent a Message for their concurrence to an Ordinance making Null those Orders which passed July 26th by force set upon both Houses And all other Orders Votes Ordinances and proceedings from thence untill the sixt of August following by any pretence of Parliament or power II. That their Lordships had likewise commanded him to put them in minde that they likewise sent to them two Declarations for their concurrence One from the Generall his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax and the Army The other from the Lords and Commons and the Speakers who went to the Army for safety Both which declared the proceedings of the Members in their absence to be forced and invalid III. That their Lordships had commanded him to acquaint them that they had received their Expedite sent up by a Message this day by some of their Members which was for Nulling the forced Votes and Proceedings by a Repeale And that their Lordships had Voted to lay it aside and adhered to their former Votes IV. That their Lordships had commanded him to deliver to them Certain Reasons of the great dangers that are like to follow if the Parliament be not Vindicated and righted by a speedy course herein The Substance of which Reasons was thus First That if a speedy course be not taken herein there is no provisions can be made for the safety of a free Parliament sitting because in these things the Houses were forced in a most insolent and visible manner Secondly That the Parliament should bee hereby liable to doe whatsoever they shall further force them to hereafter in the like manner Contrary to the freedome and priviledge of Parliaments And hereby they gaine the Authority of Parliament to make good what they force Thirdly That whatsoever force shall be set upon the Parliament to oppose their proceedings and thereby force the Houses to Act what they please There can be no po●er obtained to punish them for so great insolencies V. That their Lordships had commanded him to deliver to them a Declaration whereby their Lordships do declare That they have used all possible meanes that the Houses of Parliament may be righted and vindicated herein against the insolent and visible mutinings set upon them to force them and disturbe the proceedings of a fre● Parliament in which their Lordships doe acquit themselves that they have done what in the● lyes to vindicate and right the Parliament herein VI. That their Lordships have now passed an Ordinance for the making of the Votes null passed on Monday July 26 and so on till Friday August 6. And declaring against the same to which Ordinance they desire the speedy concurrence of the Hous of Commons Die Veneris 13 August 1647. IT is Ordered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled That the Earle of Denbigh Earle of Malgrave Lord Grey of Warke Lord Howard Sir Arthur Hazlerigge Mr. Solliciter Mr. Gurdon Mr. Miles Corbet Mr. Alderman Pennington Mr. A●●in Mr. Humphry Edwards and Collonel Ven or any three of them be a sub-Committee of the Committee appointed by both Houses on Friday last And that they have power to send for parties and witnesses and to proceed under secrecy at all times when they thinke fit in preparing the examinations of the businesses committed to the said Committee And that they or any three of them may administer an oath unto any persons in such things as shall not render the parties criminall that are so sworne Henry Elsyng Cler. Par. Dom. Comm● FINIS