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A04479 A dyaloge describing the originall grou[n]d of these Lutheran faccyons, and many of theyr abusys, compyled by syr wyllyam Barlow chanon; Dyaloge descrybyng the orygynall ground of these Lutheran faccyons, and many of theyr abusys. Barlow, William, d. 1568. 1531 (1531) STC 1461; ESTC S110642 40,261 182

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few in cōparyson of the other whyche be raylers gesters vycyous lyuers fals hypocrytes wyth owt ony conscyence N. As for hypocrytes I thynke ye myght fynde soner amongere lygyous persons ☞ W. wyll ye beleue me I haue walkyd a great parte through owte all the prouynces of crystēdome and haue sene and marcked the state of relygyous persons of dyuers orders yet sawe I neuer amonge them suche colouryd hypocrysye so flesshely lybertye abusyd vnder the pretence of fayned holynes as amonge many of these late inuentyd faccyons And I certyfye yow that ye maye fynde mo dyuers sectys of erronyoꝰ opynyons among them in one cyte beyonde the se than be sondrye orders of religyous peple in all Englonde N. Suppose ye the gospell to be in faute of thys ☞ W. Naye but the abuse of the people hauyng yt in theyr vulgare lāguage for whome yt were better to receyue yt by the mynystracyon of faythfull preachers than vnworthely to take it them selfs we haue in the gospell that oure sauyour Cryst tedynge the nōber of .v. thousand men besyde women and chyldren fyrst gyuyng thankys to his father he blyssed the breade brake yt gaue yt to hys dyscyples and they dystrybutyd yt to the company and so they dyd eate and were sacyate N. Syr accordyng to thys the peple shuld holde them very well content yf so be they had faythfull prechers to mynyster the worde of god vnto thē But I put case they haue none or ellys that theyr peachers be suche as the ꝓphete cōplayneth on whych preache the vysyō of theyr hart● not of the mouth of god seking also theyr owne worldly proffyte and not the gostly cōfort of theyr cures ☞ W. I beleue that god hath not lefte his chyrch destytute of faythfull preachers wyth the whych he hath ꝓmnysed to be contynually present vnto the worldys ende How be yt the fewer that they be the more fawte is to be imputed vnto the peple becawse they aske not worthely of god trewe preachers For the gospell sheweth that the people came fyrst to Cryst and he perceyuyng thē was mouyd wyth compassyon vppon theym becawse they were as sheepe hauynge no hearde and so feadynge theyr sowles spyrytually afterwarde he dyd repaste they re bodyes wyth corporall foode wherfore yf they in lyke maner approche vnto Cryste in whose name what so euer is desyred of the father shall be graūtyd he wyll also here gracyously theyr petycyon for the hande of god is not abreuyatt nowe nor hys power otherwyse mynysshed than yt was at that tyme. N. yet am not I so satysfyed wyth all the reasons that ye haue made but I thynke styll that yt were lawfull for laye people to haue the new testament in Englysshe perauenture wyth a lytell leyser I cowd lay suche scrypture for yt that scant ye shuld be able to obiecte ony contradyecyon ☞ W. ye shall haue leyser ynowgh But in the meane tyme thys ye must consyder that our question is not whyther it be lawfull to let them haue yt but whyther yt be vnlawfull to kepe them from it and why ther of the twayn is more mete and more expedyent specyally for the tyme that nowe ys the peple beynge dysposed as they now be and after suche ensample as we see before oure iyen with suche fruyte as we fynde growē therof in Almayne all redy and in many placys euyn here at home also But yf euer the tyme come as I praye god yt may in whyche the people shall be so good and so godly dysposed that an englysshe byble shuld do good in theyr handes yet myght Tyndals translacyon in no wyse be suffered N. well I shall bethynke me tyll we mete agayne and then wyll I be so bolde also to take Tyndals parte in defēce of hys translacyon and other bokys which he hath put forth in englysshe allegyng the best that I can for theyr alowance to th entent I maye see what stronge reasons ye can brynge to cōfute them ☞ W. Ther wyth am I ryghte well pleasyd and I trust with goddes help to answer you so effectuously that ye shall not counte the tyme passed in vayne N. Than fare ye well tyll a nother season ☞ W. Oure lorde be wyth yow ¶ Finis ¶ Prynted at London in Fletestrete agaynst the condyte the 28 daye of Iuly the yere of oure lorde 1531 By wyllyam Rastell wyth the pryuylege of our souereyn lord kyng Henry the .viii. that no mā prynt the same agayn withī the space of .vii. yere next ēsuing
thīges wherof they neuer doutyd before vsynge euer ouer thwart speche and quaylynge sentences of dowble vnderstādynge wyth protestacyons of hypocrysye after thys fassion In good fayth I thynke there is a purgatorye albeyt I can not tell whether I may beleue yt or no. I suppose that confessyon made to a preest and pylgrymagys may be well done but I fynde them not in scrypture I beleue in these wordis of Cryft thys is my body but as concernyng hys bodely presence in forme of breade to say any thynge yt ys aboue my capacyte and I dare not medle with so dyffuse maters I rekē that I may beleue the doctours of the church yf they speke not agaynst the worde of god c. To vse such ābages in weyghtye causes to put in questyō a fresshe the cases defyned by generall counsels as thoughe we were vncertayne of our belefe new to begyn agayn I repute yt no spyryte of trothe sekynge goddys honoure and edificaciō of theyr neyghbour Nor I dout not but at the day of iugemēt they shall make a more seryous answere Thys cōsyderacyō is also as I haue sayde very playnly false For whē these siy shyftes fayle thē they shew no cōstancy of theyr vnfaythfull doctryne but falsely forswere them self and say they neuer sayd so the hole audyēce detestyng theyr periury all saue onely theyr owne sect whyche as for periury pardon eche other To speke of manyfest myssliuers and open transgressours whom may we well exempte consyderynge howe prone and redy the hole world is from the moste to the leste to declyne and fall vnto euyll Our fayth whyche god hathe gyuen vs to bylde good workes vppon is waxen barayne fruteles Charyte lykewyse wherin we shuld be tryed to be the very dyscyples of Cryst is waxed colde through the excesse of iniquyte Amyable concorde wyth crystē vnyte whervppō all vertue fastenyth her fundacyon is fallen in ruyne to the fre entresse of hatefull dyscēiō lyberte of al vyces In euery state and degre the one barkyth at the other one obiectyth agaynst a nother hys fawtys eche of theym facynge other to be causes of theyr myseryes yet neuer a one fassyoneth him selfe towarde any amendemēt for hys owne parte N. By my trothe I deme the people wold be good ynough yf they had good heades ☞ W. I denye not the verely but the better that the heades be the better were the body lyke to be and the euyll that is in euyll heades descēdeth down in to euery parte and maketh all the bodye the worse And yet surely yf the people be euyll the synne of them causeth god sometyme to send them heades of the same sute bothe popes emperours kyngys cardynallys bysshoppes prestys and curatys For yt is the synne of the people as Iobtestyfyeth that causeth god to suffer hypocrytys sometyme to rayne ouer theym Hypocrytes he calleth theym that represente the personages of these estates whose partes they do playe for a countenaunce and do the contrarye in dede And as farre as I haue redde in the byble all the whyle that the peple of Israhell were good obeyng goddys lawys and sought his honoure god gaue theym gracyous gouernours vertuous prestes and trewe prophetes But as sone as they swaruyd fell vnto ydolatry he sēt thē for they re punyshment vngracyous pryntes vycyous prelatys and fals ꝓphetys so that no dyfference was betwene the people the prestys nor the people coud not ymagyne so outragyous abomynacyōs but princys and prestys bothe were redy to fortefye them in theyr vnhappynes N. yet yf ye remember well the storyes of the byble ye shall fynde that the trāsgressyō of goddys law amōg the peple redownded fyrst frō the heades by theyr pernycyous occasyon And as to wchynge fals prophetes and yll prestes god hym selfe greuous●y complayneth apon them shewyng how the people are seducyd by them to the pollutynge of hys name and vyolacyon of hys lawes whose enmyous wyckednes Ezechiell Hieremye wyth dyuers other ꝓphetes declare at length Dyd not the Belyal preastes Ophni Phynes by theyr pestylent example and lecherous lyuynge corrupte many one vppon whom god takynge vengeaunce they loste theyr lyues in batayll and the arke of god wherof they had the cure takē by the Phylysteys xxx thousande fyghtynge men of the Israhelyte people were slayne in one day Lykewyse the chyldren of Samuell whyche were iuges of the peple not ensuynge they re fathers steppes but set apō couetousnes toke rewardes and peruertyd iugement by whose occasyon the people were mouyd to aske a kynge vnto theyr desolacyon Moreouer the storye of kynge Saull is playn for whose pryuate dysobedyēce the hole lande of Israhell smarted full sore Kyng Dauyd though he was a blyssed mā yet brought vnto foly for to nomber his people they were fayne to suffer moste wofull plages for hys offence Manye other lyke placys I coud gather out of the olde testament were yt nat to eschew tedyousnes specyally of Hieroboam whom the scrypture testyfyeth expresly that he caused the peple of Israhell to synne Besyde all thys go to the very experyence and ye shall fynde that where soeuer the heade or go uernour of an howse ys good the hole howsholde comenlye shall be good also And contrary wyse yf they be badde the other shall be as euyll so that I may conclude in veryfyeng myne opynyon that the yll cōuersacyon of subgectys procedyth out of the euyll example of theyr heades ☞ W. To begyn where as ye leaue I graunt that the vertuous exāple of the head auayleth moch to the good order of the members the greater that the auctoryte ys the more strength yt hath in example eyther to profyte or to noy consyderyng that amonge pryuate persons the goodnesse of some one ēducyth many other to vertue contrary the lewdnes of another bryngeth many to vyce vngracyousnes But yet cā not ye ●clude apon thys that the euylnes of the people comyth fyrste by the exāple of the heades but rather as I haue spoken before because the peple be euyll them selfs therfore god sendyth theym according yll heades gouernours For ye must consyder that god hath not made the people for the sensuall pleasure of pryncys gouernours or prelatys but hath ordeyned them to that we all and commodyte of the people ye haue in Exodus the thyrde chapyter that when the peple of Israhell were in myserable thraldome vnder kynge Pharo they cryed to god for remedye and god prouyded theym Moyses to be theyr delyuerer to whom in gyuyng his of●yce he sayde The clamoure of the childrē of Israhell is come vnto me and I haue sene theyr afflyccyons how they are oppressyd of the Egypcians therfore approche and I shall sende the to belyuer my peple ye god loued the peple so entyerly that of theym he chose bysshoppes prestes and deakenes to offer specyall sacrefyces for the clensynge of they re synnes and to be as meanes betwene hym the. 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