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A09170 A declaration of the variance betweene the Pope, and the segniory of Venice with the proceedings and present state thereof. VVhereunto is annexed a defence of the Venetians, written by an Italian doctor of Diuinitie, against the censure of Paulus Quintus, proouing the nullitie thereof by Holy Scriptures, canons, and catholique Doctors. Manfredi, Fulgenzio, attributed name. 1606 (1606) STC 19482; ESTC S114206 32,389 92

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